A similar way I am learning to feel polyrhythms like 4:5, 3:5, 4:7, 2:3:4 is to use any free online polyrhythm metronome and, mechanically memorize how it feels and then as soon as I start to internationalize it, I immediately jump into playing with different sounds and "feels". It really is like learning to speak, it's a new way to share and explore oneself. Also, I know there is a lot of polyrhythmic music on CZcams to reference. Off the top of my head some good search topics would be: - Congo drumb music - Peruvian music - Pakistani music - traditional Chinese music (not the "relaxing spa meditation" stuff)
+Drummer 37 haha, thanks man! then why not spending some more minutes with deep drum knowledge on my indiscipline channel? Simon Phillips' interview might be a good start ;-)
Hab ihn zufällig in Zürich "getroffen": bin einfach auf ihn zu und hab ihm meine riesen Bewunderung für ihn ausgedrückt (war völlig ausser mir!). Er war total offen, extrem sympathisch und lächelte mich nach der Begrüssung so an, als würde die Sonne aufgehen! Was für ein unglaublich toller Mensch! Was für ein Jahrhundert Genie!!!!
I'm not a drummer but I love learning from them. I've really grown to love jojos approach and playing style. This eas very informative and deep. Hes worthy of bring on the world stage with his work ethic. No one gets that good and descriptive without their 10,000 hours of practice alone.
I'm sure it's a saying somewhere or a quote, but it always rings in my head while people explain things in front of a group. "If you can't explain it simply/easily, you don't truly understand it" About the only thing I can explain fluently and easily is how cars work and how air traffic works. lol.
Always be aware the motions of your limbs make the sounds and the patterns, not the other way around. When you go to play anything, the memory of the motion in your hands and feet is the first thing the brain executes. The brain says, "If I squeeze the stick like this or make this movement/motion it will produce this sound/rhythm". Practice is not leaning rhythms, practice is learning movements and motions that make rhythms. In memory of Freddy Grubber.
Ok excellent Jojo! The 1st thing I hear and see in this video is that JoJo starts with the easy + math friendly polyrhythm of 6over4 then he creates a polyrhythmic "beat" in 6 over 4 and then goes with the polyrhythm part (on the hi hat) and begins a new (faster) beat with that (polyrhythm - metric modulation). This is a great example of "Metric Modulation" (in this case 1&1/2 times faster )You can probably hear a wealth of new possibilities when all this begins to happen in your own head. Let me recommend two books where all the (Polyrhythms-Polymeters-and times faster than the original beat Metric Modulation) it is clearly explained and graduated in the logical poly-meters and polyrhythms that do & are meant to exist with each other. Two books recommended (1) Polyrhythms The Musicians Guide ( Hal Leonard publishing) peter/magadini - explaines & goes thru all the polyrhythms with single line examples ans patterns. (Polyrhythms:The Musicians Guide ): Peter Magadini Amazon.com - Amazon.com : polyrythms the musicians guide The other one is called: Polyrhythms For The Drumset (Alfred Publishing) peter/magadini This book is all about polyrhythms at the drums and how to get to the point where you can co-ordinate polyrhythms between hands and feet while keeping a beat. Plus metric modulation & more. (Polyrhythms for the Drumset): Amazon.com - Polyrhythms for the Drumset: Book & CD:Magadini, Peter: 0029156176780: Amazon.com: Books
Feel badly he was so sick but been in Germany back in 86,87,drumming for Duran Duran filling in for friend and now legendary drummer Steve Ferrone! Jo Jo, just great information regarding polyrythmic stuff and displacement along with all his great truisms!! A must see for my very advanced students and intermediate too!!That's a Rap
The beat starting at 3:06 is something he still uses live (with variations). See for example the Live in Europe video at Hinterhof Basel. Gooooood stuff.
Love Jojo, nerve is definitely my favourite non-metal band, and I like to try and incorporate a bit of jojo's style into my metal drumming. Would love to see what he could/would do in a metal context.
Pure modern genius! One of the few that didn't lost himself in rudimental masturbation and didn't fall into the abyss of far-fetched psedo-groove beats. Goooo, JoJo!
If either of your limbs is in "motion" playing a constant pattern, then playing any other limb in between the notes in the pattern can produce a poly-rhythm. The motion is the key. Hard to explain but not as difficult as the mind wants to make it.
this is the stuff that captivates me most about drumming, metric modulation, that's why I love vinnie, because he always does it effortlessly and in a musical way. Gavin is great at it too. Only problem is, I can't modulate for shit, i just can't do the switching between metrics like they do, but one day maybe.......
Wow! That was a fantastic explanation. Hard to watch something like this and not feel inspired to play (once the depression and self loathing wears off of course LOL).....Okay, time to go practice now!
its funny how he's trying to explain what drummers just do so naturally~~we time masters. He's a time master its second hand nature but he explained it very well. I could of never said like him never:):):)
@Audi0Phil Yeah it's kinda like when I would play bass, I would just stick to the rule "as long as it sounds right"; as in losen up the rythm and tone mathematic estimations so you can be a little off while in the end still be on track - you're in between of on-the-fly and 1 or 2 segments ahead in what you intend to do however that's where this part becomes more intuition and confidence after practicing different phrasings, as Jojo kinda said in fact. Man I just said something for nothing ^^
I like how you can see the two people clock that insane fill at 6.15. I don't know how no one else responds to it. I would be losing my shit if I was there!
good tip is to dont play the 4/4 basic beat yourself and just listen to it while you "jam" or "fiddle" or "groove" and play around in that free space to get the "feel" inside your body while going around your brain.. hope that makes sense to you, cant describe it better.. greetings from germany : ) mario
I just bought his signature stick they are really weighted nice but short. Are those what he is using, because if they are he's playing way on the end of the stick ala Buford.
Well he HAS to use and endorse his own signature sticks lol. He holds the butts in the palm of his hand it would seem. Like Jeremy Taggart...his sticks look like they are a mile long when they are not.
umm...no he doesn't. He can use any stick made by the company. He SHOULD use them because they were made to his specs, but he certainly doesn't have to.
metric modulation . . . the final step in drumming before you start to sound like a bunch of people in guitar center trying to play different drum beats at the same time. XD
hehe this guy is me :D. By the time i had the pleasure to see Jojo live ive already watched his fist dvd a thousand times and also other youtube clips of him. I wasnt impressed, thats right, i was literally blown away by his playing especially live :D
Haha - I remember reading this comment last year, awesome to see this thread updated :) Crazy that I have stood in that room, just not when Jojo was there :/
AdamOuissellat Oh I love 1-Thing, and Oh Calcutta, aside from the break, isn't my favourite Meters tune by a long long way. Zigaboo's funky grooves are all time greats :-)
Thank you for taking the time to do the subtitles.
A similar way I am learning to feel polyrhythms like 4:5, 3:5, 4:7, 2:3:4 is to use any free online polyrhythm metronome and, mechanically memorize how it feels and then as soon as I start to internationalize it, I immediately jump into playing with different sounds and "feels". It really is like learning to speak, it's a new way to share and explore oneself.
Also, I know there is a lot of polyrhythmic music on CZcams to reference. Off the top of my head some good search topics would be:
- Congo drumb music
- Peruvian music
- Pakistani music
- traditional Chinese music (not the "relaxing spa meditation" stuff)
Nice!
That was the most productive 11 minutes and 15 seconds I've ever spent in my life.
+Drummer 37 haha, thanks man! then why not spending some more minutes with deep drum knowledge on my indiscipline channel? Simon Phillips' interview might be a good start ;-)
+codaIV ^^shameless self promoting
You are awesome for giving us the English subtitles! Thanks!
Hab ihn zufällig in Zürich "getroffen": bin einfach auf ihn zu und hab ihm meine riesen Bewunderung für ihn ausgedrückt (war völlig ausser mir!). Er war total offen, extrem sympathisch und lächelte mich nach der Begrüssung so an, als würde die Sonne aufgehen! Was für ein unglaublich toller Mensch! Was für ein Jahrhundert Genie!!!!
I'm not a drummer but I love learning from them. I've really grown to love jojos approach and playing style. This eas very informative and deep. Hes worthy of bring on the world stage with his work ethic. No one gets that good and descriptive without their 10,000 hours of practice alone.
I freakin love this guy. I'm not afraid to admit it...total man crush.
I like German audiences, if this had been at a clinic at home, half the time would have been spent clapping and shouting every time he hit a drum.
I think its Swiss.
I never get tired of watching this. It's so good!!!!
He speaks and teaches so eloquently. I'd have such a hard time getting my thoughts into words on a topic like this
I'm sure it's a saying somewhere or a quote, but it always rings in my head while people explain things in front of a group. "If you can't explain it simply/easily, you don't truly understand it" About the only thing I can explain fluently and easily is how cars work and how air traffic works. lol.
Thank you for such great videos of this clinic! Also, thanks for taking the time to do the subtitles,...appreciate the work very much!
Always be aware the motions of your limbs make the sounds and the patterns, not the other way around. When you go to play anything, the memory of the motion in your hands and feet is the first thing the brain executes. The brain says, "If I squeeze the stick like this or make this movement/motion it will produce this sound/rhythm". Practice is not leaning rhythms, practice is learning movements and motions that make rhythms. In memory of Freddy Grubber.
Fart.
Thanks for posting this! Cool stuff here,really awesome to watch and listen to what Jojo does.
@2:43 the guy in the front gives up on drumming
great footage! thanks a lot for the subtitles.
Awesome video. Jojo is unbelievable.
Thanks for translating it!
Ok excellent Jojo! The 1st thing I hear and see in this video is that JoJo starts with the easy + math friendly polyrhythm of 6over4 then he creates a polyrhythmic "beat" in 6 over 4 and then goes with the polyrhythm part (on the hi hat) and begins a new (faster) beat with that (polyrhythm - metric modulation). This is a great example of "Metric Modulation" (in this case 1&1/2 times faster )You can probably hear a wealth of new possibilities when all this begins to happen in your own head. Let me recommend two books where all the (Polyrhythms-Polymeters-and times faster than the original beat Metric Modulation) it is clearly explained and graduated in the logical poly-meters and polyrhythms that do & are meant to exist with each other.
Two books recommended (1) Polyrhythms The Musicians Guide ( Hal Leonard publishing) peter/magadini - explaines & goes thru all the polyrhythms with single line examples ans patterns.
(Polyrhythms:The Musicians Guide ): Peter Magadini Amazon.com - Amazon.com : polyrythms the musicians guide
The other one is called: Polyrhythms For The Drumset (Alfred Publishing) peter/magadini
This book is all about polyrhythms at the drums and how to get to the point where you can co-ordinate polyrhythms between hands and feet while keeping a beat. Plus metric modulation & more.
(Polyrhythms for the Drumset): Amazon.com - Polyrhythms for the Drumset: Book & CD:Magadini, Peter: 0029156176780: Amazon.com: Books
Another incredible book about this topic is : Rhythmic Illusions by Gavin Harrison
Great breakdown on how to just play . You always need to know the count but just play. You will figure it out. No short cuts! Thanks jojo
in 2011 you talked about this! you're a Genius!!!
Thank you for being amazing inspiring and educational
great video's. thanx for posting them.
Awesome! Thanks, and thanks for the subtitles as well.
Thanks for uploading!
This guy's crazy articulate in multiple languages, including music. hero
Feel badly he was so sick but been in Germany back in 86,87,drumming for Duran Duran filling in for friend and now legendary drummer Steve Ferrone! Jo Jo, just great information regarding polyrythmic stuff and displacement along with all his great truisms!! A must see for my very advanced students and intermediate too!!That's a Rap
Jojo....Du bist der coolste Megadrummer für mich! Respekt!
amazing thanks for these!
He's amazing and extremely knowledgeable!!😎♩🎶
Tank you very much for the upload, and tanks a lot for the subs. I guess I can never go out to his clinics.
Jojo is so friggin good...those glitch beats were rad.
what a beast... thanks!
Jojo is a time machine.
Like a fine Swiss watch this guy is the new God
Awesome lesson!
EXCELLENT video
The beat starting at 3:06 is something he still uses live (with variations). See for example the Live in Europe video at Hinterhof Basel. Gooooood stuff.
wow. how the fuck have I not seen this before until now? This video is amazing.
this dude is me!! haha, funny to see me in someones video^^. the clinic was a really good one and jojo is just a god on drums!
So did yiu keep playing 8 years later?? :)
@@vocalpro hihi :D
Wow did he just say flying lotus?
Love Jojo, nerve is definitely my favourite non-metal band, and I like to try and incorporate a bit of jojo's style into my metal drumming. Would love to see what he could/would do in a metal context.
This is some deep ass wisdom.
6:07 is sick
outstanding.
So good....
actual sick drummer
Maestro!
Pure modern genius! One of the few that didn't lost himself in rudimental masturbation and didn't fall into the abyss of far-fetched psedo-groove beats. Goooo, JoJo!
Master. 🔥
Anyone know the sticking for the fill or groove at 6:10?
That was fascinating!, any chance you could upload more? =p i can never manage to go to the clinics.
If either of your limbs is in "motion" playing a constant pattern, then playing any other limb in between the notes in the pattern can produce a poly-rhythm. The motion is the key. Hard to explain but not as difficult as the mind wants to make it.
this is the stuff that captivates me most about drumming, metric modulation, that's why I love vinnie, because he always does it effortlessly and in a musical way. Gavin is great at it too. Only problem is, I can't modulate for shit, i just can't do the switching between metrics like they do, but one day maybe.......
Polyrhythems is always something I overlooked as a guitarist in the past, but now I just wanna get stuck in
Amazing! He even coughs in 5/4.
Bravo...
Didn't know this guy was german! Sweetness
Wow! That was a fantastic explanation. Hard to watch something like this and not feel inspired to play (once the depression and self loathing wears off of course LOL).....Okay, time to go practice now!
Ok this was nice
The kid in the dead center front of the crowd is reacting pretty much exactly how I am right now haha
Mojo Jojo!
Switzerland comprises four main linguistic and cultural regions: German, French, Italian and the Romansh-speaking valleys
its funny how he's trying to explain what drummers just do so naturally~~we time masters. He's a time master its second hand nature but he explained it very well. I could of never said like him never:):):)
2:51 - The classic stroke of the beard [the left side] "Yes, I understand...wait, no I don't!"
@Audi0Phil Yeah it's kinda like when I would play bass, I would just stick to the rule "as long as it sounds right"; as in losen up the rythm and tone mathematic estimations so you can be a little off while in the end still be on track - you're in between of on-the-fly and 1 or 2 segments ahead in what you intend to do however that's where this part becomes more intuition and confidence after practicing different phrasings, as Jojo kinda said in fact. Man I just said something for nothing ^^
Would you perhaps have a link to the solo? I'm interested in seeing it.
I like how you can see the two people clock that insane fill at 6.15. I don't know how no one else responds to it. I would be losing my shit if I was there!
cool that he mentioned flying lotus :)
magic
6:08 OMG yes.
hahaha I knew exactly what solo he was referring to when he said john bonham at 6:55. That was actually a pretty good impersonation haha
jojo blinks in polyrhythms
6:15 The two guys looking at eachother like, "yeaaaah, that fill was sickkkkk"
good tip is to dont play the 4/4 basic beat yourself and just listen to it while you "jam" or "fiddle" or "groove" and play around in that free space to get the "feel" inside your body while going around your brain.. hope that makes sense to you, cant describe it better.. greetings from germany : ) mario
"Ich spür´s. Ich weiß was ist." Nuff said.
Mitzählen? LOL....
Anyone know the sticking for the fill at 6:15?
Everyone there is probably like that’s wild but I’ll never get there
Godlike Chops.
3:31 guy from faceless scratching his track marks
I just bought his signature stick they are really weighted nice but short. Are those what he is using, because if they are he's playing way on the end of the stick ala Buford.
Well he HAS to use and endorse his own signature sticks lol. He holds the butts in the palm of his hand it would seem. Like Jeremy Taggart...his sticks look like they are a mile long when they are not.
umm...no he doesn't. He can use any stick made by the company. He SHOULD use them because they were made to his specs, but he certainly doesn't have to.
does not matter what language he speaks his playing speaks for it's self
6:57 jakataka takatata Plauuhh! shpaahh Phssss!!!
He does. He's rumored to do a lot of other things too, but I doubt he does anything else besides smokes and reefer.
metric modulation . . . the final step in drumming before you start to sound like a bunch of people in guitar center trying to play different drum beats at the same time. XD
my brain hurts
Only drummers are interested in this kind of stuff. Swiss timing.
erm... straight over my head
Heads exploded at the 3:30 mark lol
6:14 and 6:24
I wonder if he has any books published. He should if he doesn't
is there a reason he is saying "zwo" instead of "zwei" (two)? I am still learning German and this is bothering me more than it probably should
Jojo is Swiss and 2 = zwoi in Swiss. Swiss and Deutsch have many similarities and he probably juxtaposes words.
Zwo is often used in some noisy environment or during phone calls, because Zwei and Drei sounds similar...
Trance-inducing rhythms.
John Mayer's brother?
this wasnt anything new for the guy with the "The Faceless" shirt
surely not impressed is he.
hehe this guy is me :D. By the time i had the pleasure to see Jojo live ive already watched his fist dvd a thousand times and also other youtube clips of him. I wasnt impressed, thats right, i was literally blown away by his playing especially live :D
Haha - I remember reading this comment last year, awesome to see this thread updated :) Crazy that I have stood in that room, just not when Jojo was there :/
midinerd Umm, yea that’s a real mindfuck:p
Or is it?🤔
FlyLo!
do anyone know that beat from 6:08 ?
He's playing a variation of the beat from "Amerie- 1 Thing"
AdamOuissellat Which is a sample of the legendary Zigaboo Modelist from The Meters - Oh Calcutta.
DrHeadgear Yes you're right, but I personally know it from Amerie. The Meters are awesome though
AdamOuissellat
Oh I love 1-Thing, and Oh Calcutta, aside from the break, isn't my favourite Meters tune by a long long way. Zigaboo's funky grooves are all time greats :-)
The kid in the red is so lost!!!!
+Drum Therapy I was thinking the same thing! Looks like he has no idea what's going on but is totally blown away at the same time haha.
Howard Stern on Drums
He speaks German! Amazing..
He is Swiss, amazing!
silvio put he is amazing, amazing!
silvio put he is Swiss?
@ indiscipline, Good man :)
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