Our Favorite 2024 NFL Draft Sleepers (w/ Brett Kollmann)
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- ROOKIE PREVIEW: Hayden Winks is joined by friend of the show, Brett Kollmann, in sunny Arizona for a casual primer episode on the relevant fantasy players in the 2024 NFL Draft. The obvious top talents are excluded and the boys dive a bit deeper to find the values in the Big Board drafts on Underdog Fantasy and dynasty fantasy football. Brett gives some super deep sleepers, especially at running back. Did he find the next Isiah Pacheco?
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2024 Fantasy Football Rookies PREVIEW w/ Brett Kollmann
0:00 Guys Naming DUDES NFL Draft Edition
0:28 Quarterbacks
1:00 JJ McCarthy/Michael Penix Jr.
7:07 Rattler, Pratt, Travis
8:29 Wide Receivers
9:15 Troy Franklin
10:28 Xavier Worthy
11:56 Adonai Mitchell
13:26 Keon Coleman
15:30 Senior Bowl RISERS
17:08 Roman Wilson
18:56 Devontez Walker
20:37 Brett's WR Sleepers
24:50 RBs - Jonathon Brooks
26:10 Trey Benson
27:51 Blake Corum, Braelon Allen
29:41 MarShawn Lloyd
31:17 Audric Estime
32:28 Bucky Irving
34:48 Brett's RB Sleepers
38:43 Watch Brett - WIN the 2024 NFL Draft
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Crazy the Wide receiver argument can be used against Penix but not Daniels who arguably has two day 1 WRs and Daniels best passing games are against Jacksonville st and northern southern western east st or whatever.
Right ? And the Agility thing is a little overblown because of the offense he played in and because he was so good making the on schedule plays he was not asked to scramble a lot. He has escapability in his game. Watch his Indiana film
I think it’s because LSUs run game and Oline was significantly worse. There’s a reason Washington played in the National championship and LSU barley made a bowl game
@@Jalan.January LSU’s run game was Jayden Daniels and if I’m not mistaken they had more total rushing yds than Washington
@@Jalan.January LSU barely made a bowl game because of their defense... Their secondary, to be more accurate. Their offense was the reason they made it there.
Northern southern....😂😂
I love Malik Washington he has a lot of Steve Smirh in him as far as the physicality and has a crazy high win rate percentage on contested balls and a decent yac guy as well
Exactly, that was my first thought when I heard he was 5'9 and 195lbs. Interested to see how he will turn out
Bengals grabbing Roman Wilson second round would be huge! Instant Boyd replacement with lots of speed
I'm surprised you're surprised at the prospect of Roman Wilson running a 4.3. That's been his scouting report since he was 16 years old lmao.
Braden Fiske FSU- 2nd-3rd rd. Remember this dude
He will never make it out of the 2nd round. He is not the “best kept secret” anymore. I have been hoping my Lions could snag him in 3-4 for months, but he keeps rocketing up everyone’s draft boards after the Senior Bowl and now a massive Combine showing.
Blake Corum is going to be incredible, I will be saving all the receipts.
Ugh! Way over-worked at UM! And major injury survivor…I hope GB passes on him!🎉❤
Corum is difficult to evaluate for an NFL career. He didn't get many carries when Hassan Haskins was the featured back in the Wolverine offense, and at that time he was looked at as a little speed demon in contrast to Haskins' snow plow sort of style. With Haskins graduating, either Corum or the coaches decided that Corum needed to bulk up in order to replace Haskins as the #1 back in Michigan's mostly inside-the-tackles run game, so he gained a lot of muscle in the off season, including in his upper body, and lost some of his breakaway speed. But the new version of Blake Corum proved to be a great inside runner, consistently gaining extra yards after contact in the land of the giants and serving as the engine for the entire Michigan offense. You can't run the ball successfully if your main runner gets only two or three yards per carry. If he can get four or five yards each time he touches the ball, you are golden. The only thing that ends a drive is the end zone.
Corum was not injury-prone. He had the one knee injury against Illinois that caused him to miss the end of the 2022 season. Not having him in the lineup nearly lost that game against the Illini, and we all know how the playoff game against TCU turned out. Whether that injury and surgery diminished his NFL value remains to be determined. He certainly got caught from behind a lot in 2023 when he broke through to the third level, but so did Barry Sanders as a pro. Corum is roughly the same body shape as Barry, and has a great jump-cut, and, like Barry, is hard to get a direct hit on. Overall, he's not as elusive as Barry, but he's certainly a better inside runner who looks for an extra two or three yards at the end of a play rather than a spectacular TD run. He's a good blocker and a sound receiver out of the backfield, but his receiving skills weren't used. Why throw a pass in the flat for a 5-yard gain when you can easily run for five yards? Another plus is that he doesn't fumble the ball. His yards per carry stat was really hurt by his many short-yardage carries for 1st downs or TDs.
The conventional wisdom these days is that running backs in the NFL have short careers before they blow out a knee, so don't draft a runner with your top picks, so Corum is unlikely to be picked before maybe the 4th round, but he'll do well for the team that picks him.
Brett's long lost brother... Hayden
Leggett is better than a sleeper.
9ers legacy guys can all play:
Brenden Rice is going to be solid for a long time.
Luke McCaffrey is a late round pick that could be a real contributor year 1. 6th round steal.
Frank Gore Jr. is undersized, but also underrated. He's almost as big as Corum and is versatile af. 7th round steal.
Straight pimpin' Hayden...coat and hat look fire
Coat looks awful
@@TripleC123with cacti in the background, warm ass weather for a coat like that 🤣
@@adamrielhhey bro it can get cold down here in the winter. nothing crazy, but you gotta wear a jacket when it’s like 40.
Your content is Boss
Walker over Franklin is nuts
It’s not. Watch Walker at Kent state.
Neither are worth a round 3 pick
Some great fantasy takes from a couple of guys going incognito.
Penix is criminally underrated can't wait for him to ball out in the league. Stroud 2.0
Gotta love the idea that JJ’s biggest weakness is his lack of arm strength, when most others have that as maybe the one NFL trait you can bank on. His issue is that he barely threw the ball lol, and when he did the decision making was often questionable.
I was confused about that too😂I was like “isn’t that considered one of his strengths?”
@@jordanwilliams4542 Lol, hey I don’t get paid the big bucks, but I’m with you man
One of his problems this year was throwing the ball too hard when it needed more touch so I don’t understand this bad arm strength argument🤣🤣
That’s half the reason he won the job from Cade. Dude was throwing cross body to the opposite hash 40 yards downfield … but arm strength is his weakness? Uhm … ok.
@@dhaddine5472 I think this was a case of someone not completing his research, lol
I haye when draftniks say a guy is "maxed out" or "already at his ceiling".
None of these college players are at their potential! They're young and ALL have room to grow.
Putting a cap on someones potential is bogue when its shown over and over they can exceed expectations.
Maybe your speaking just physically and not mentally, but if thats the case you should clarify that. But even then that sells an individuals ability to become a better athlete with professional training.
Otherwise, appreciate the breakdowns and analysis 💯
24 is not young. Justin Herbert was signing his 2nd NFL contract at 24. A 24 year old college QB is likely nearer his ceiling than floor.
Trey Benson really reminds me of Rashaad Penny, who was a monster for a stretch with Seattle when healthy
Good stuff. Need to add some of those deep cut RBs to the next Underdog contest.
I’ll be honest I think if this is a sticking point for Penix that guy is going to become such an awesome value.
Braelon Allen is the most intriguing RB in this class imo. He just turned 20’s old, breakout age at 17, 245lbs., and has quick feet for a big guy and good long speed. Allen was on Feldman’s freak list 4.4 40, 1.49 10 yard split.
For real I feel like if you were a team that misses out on Derrick Henry just draft this guy he can give you a lot of what current Derrick Henry gives you
That 40 time has got to be fake or when he was 50 pounds lighter. Allen lacks speed on tape IMO. Doesn't mean he can't be effective but I just can't see 4.4 at all
Nice patio out there in what I assume is AZ. Cool looking at guys sitting on a couch in the sun, while here it’s been snowing.
Great to see AD Mitchell get attention. I love him. He’s gonna be a beast in the league. Maybe it’s hopeful thinking but also love Franklin.
I believe that Penix was pressured 16 times against Texas, almost entirely up the middle from two day 1 NFL takents. He took zero sacks and his rating against that pressure was damn good.
So it's not that he can't thrive in that scenario, he's just been very inconsistent.
personally, as an OSU fan, people are SLEEPING on JJ McCarthy man. I think hes' way closer to that Daniels, May, Caleb group than people are giving credit. And I think you said it well when describing his throws opposite hash down field. It's not that he can't, it's not even that he didn't EVER. It's that he didn't a lot. But IIRC, the times he did, it was a good throw. He's got every other trait you'd want in terms of mentality, winner, absolute toughness. It takes a lot to be able to beat OSU 3 years in a row man, it really does. And I think it's about time he gets the credit he deserves for it. Don't get me wrong, the team absolutely played their ASS off as a whole, but think about where the rest of his team is ranked and projected man, Corum supposed to be a little later than a few others, Roman going later than a lot of receivers, his line isnt all 1st round projections.... You're telling me his team around him was WORSE than I originally expected for the draft? That means he's the X factor of that team imo.
He's also just turned 21 and the Nixes are almost 24. If the Nixes can't do it now after 5 years in college - they're probably never going to - look at Ridder and Pickett.
Brett I want to know your thoughts on guys like Javon baker, Jamari thrash, and Brenden rice
Audric’s agility is so underrated
100% on Issac Guerendo RB - Louisville - this year's Pacheco
Also like Isaiah Davis - RB - South Dakota State
Brett Veach last month: "Yeah, we're always trying to get Pat offensive help, no matter what people think or say. It was a unique free agency and there wasn't a lot to choose from and you're picking last in the draft. So we took what we had..."
Well guess what Veach, there's a TON of options in free agency this year and the draft is STACKED with talent at WR to where you could easily, even if you're mediocre at drafting WRs which you are, get GREAT value at #32.
No excuses this off-season, I don't wanna hear it.
Veach is still an elite gm but i do agree with what you said. We should be able to get a WR or OT at 32
Brooks 1.05 in dynasty is crazy 💀
Penix made his receivers so over hyped. I don’t think any of them were top 50 wr in high school other than McMillan. Dillon Johnson looked so legit tho
How do u guys feel about Tory Horton from Colorado state
JJ has crazy arm strength. This is a wild take. His issue is touch. Did you actually watch this guy play the last 2 years?
Brett would love to know your thoughts on Jaylen Wright
Penix can work on pressure before draft I think
He's had 5 years to figure it out. I doubt a couple more months will make any difference.
Tyrone Tracy Jr I went to highschool with him he’s a rb with a great receiving ability
Brett Kollman was a Puka Nacua truther pre-draft last year. I trust anything he says
He also said Justin Herbert was gonna be a major bust. Love the dude but relax
Brett hypes every sleeper, he will call at least 200 guys “top 100” and victory lap whoever hits.
Penix moves well enough. In the pocket he moved excellent.
Can't take the size argument seriously for WRs after that Smith Waddle class. Franklin will get schemed open
i like franklin but different levels of prospect there, smitty broke college football
Franklin is also 6'3 @@rohinm.
you can't take the size argument seriously after a class that saw two undersized WR's go in the top 10 and both of them ended up as number 2 options?
@@drew284there are more Allen Lazard and MVS types in the NFL than D. Smith, and Waddle types…
Franklin so far has looked like MVS and Lazard
@@kghostthegreatLazard went undrafted for a reason, and MVS didn’t even record close to Franklins stats in a worse conference, Franklin is miles better than those bums and even comparing their play is disrespectful, they have the same frame that’s it
Was excited for the video, far too much Penix slander, had to shut it off. Stupid fucking jacket, too
Do you put Wilson above Mitchell if he runs a 4.3 ?
hayden is dripping
J Travis is 24 love was drafted at 21. 24 year better be ready to play.
I'm a Seminole and I love JT, the idea of taking him in the second round is insane to me. He simply does not have the arm talent of any successful starting QB in the league, and his lack of height makes going over the middle very difficult for him. I think he will be a great back-up, who can spark a team for a couple games, but you wouldn't want to build a franchise with him as your cornerstone.
There are so many bad takes in here and I was gonna ignore with no comment, honestly I was....but when Brett Literally said Bucky Irving lacked burst and agility it broke me. Its one thing to say a guy wont score fantasy points or something, but to be so clueless on a players top traits just illustrates how once you get a big enough following you can just say whatever you want and hope it sticks lol
Im not huge on bucky but yeah wtaf 😭
Fun fact Jermaine Burton and Johnny Wilson (another wr in this years draft) went to the same high school 😂
why don't any of those receiver charts have Ladd on them?
braylon allen has very slept on hands
Jordan Addison had a very similar profile to Troy Franklin no? I know there is a bit of a production difference but just trynna understand the difference in draft grade.
ehhh franklin is way faster but has worse hands
Alex Rollins gave exact same opinion of Penix.
🔥
I'm here for those 6th Rd RBs
Trey Benson reminding me of Nick Chubb a bit
Well you boys could always hit Bourbon Street in Phoenix lol
Which QB is closest thing to this year's Purdy?
I think Penix will be good
Hello from AZ
None. They only pop up once every 5-10 years.
Purdy was an absolute atrocious QB in collage that got into a situation that managed to fix his flaws.
So if a superteam wants to draft joe milton then
Jordan Travis
Purdy/Nix compare is exactly right.
Holeee Shit Hayden wearing the threads
I'm a simple man. If I see Brett Kollman talking football I click 😅
Jonah Elliss is my guy at Edge. I like this kid. Carolina make it happen
Thoughts on Javon Baker
Yes finally someone who agrees w me on Troy Franklin! Thank you Brett
JJ is QB 3
Jaden Daniels went 10 td 10 int his 3rd year
@@INKovariawful case for your point lol
@@INKovaribut what happened the next two years???🤡🤡🤡
I dont hate that argument
Xavier weaver !!!
Jordan Travis round 2 for ATL Plays behind Kirk for 2-3 years before getting the start
To me, Bo Nix and Michael Penix are better prospects than JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy reminds me of Marcus Mariota, Desmond Ridder, or Ryan Tannehill - athletic, good size, tough, gamer, not a consistent QB. I don't think he's shown he's got the arm talent or pre or post snap processing ability, and it requires a huge leap to project him to success in the NFL.
Penix has the biggest arm and has shown he can make the requisite throws. Reminds me a lot of CJ Stroud coming out last year. Bo Nix is probably the most NFL-ready of this tier, he's played a lot of college ball and is mature enough to handle the pressure and transition to the NFL.
“I don’t think hes shown he’s got the arm talent or pre or post snap processing ability”
So tell me you didnt watch jj mccarthy without telling me you didn’t watch jj mccarthy?
Bo Nix would be incredible in SF
I'm really high on Tez Walker. His stock dropped after the senior bowl because he was having trouble with drops, but those drops don't really show up on his game tape. Plus, on tape and at the senior bowl he showed he can separate in a number of ways that he isn't given credit for. He was cooking corners at the senior bowl, not just on go routes either, he just wasn't able to catch the ball consistently. Again, that doesn't show up on his tape. Not saying he's Ja'marr Chase or anything, but I could absolutely see the "Walker senior bowl drops" being the next "Chase preseason drops" from his rookie year.
He didn't produce for years in college til last year, big red flag
@@MaadhatsOnTwitch Lmao bro he was at Kent state & yes he did; go watch his tape vs. Georgia
He had 11 touchdowns and almost 1000 yards in 2022? @@MaadhatsOnTwitch
I liked him until thee Senior Bowl. Feels like he changed from a day 2 to a day 3 player.
What about my guy Drake Stoops out of Oklahoma???
Brock Purdy had the most deep TD passes in the NFL in 2023 lol. Nsver see him throw the ball downfield?
Question: Is Penix better than Wilson, Lance, M.Jones & Pickett? All 1st round picks. Too many QB needy teams, that’s why he will be a top 35 pick.
Honestly Penix doesn’t have the tools Wilson and Lance have. Even though it didn’t workout I understand why those 2 got drafted where they did.
brett i will never trust you again after you said Quentin Johnston is "REALLY good"
Chill bro, wait until Harbaugh works his magic. That entire Chargers team minus Herbert was pretty bad this past season, it makes sense he would be too. Quentin still has time to develop. Wait a few years before writing a guy off as a bust.
@@itscebby8882 dude he was historically bad
@@CoolHandLuke196the entire chargers team is hot ass, quentin can still be something so hopefully he does
why you got ray Davis in the thumbnail and aint mention him man
Did this dude just compare Hyatt to Dell? Totally different players
Troy Franklin is Tyquan Thornton 2.0
Love to see no mention of Ladd. Hes the actual definition of a sleeper that was a 3 star prospect and is gonna make an NFL team really happy. If he manages to go the the Chiefs, they’re gonna be scary.
He isnt a sleeper. If you dont have a first round pick/top 5 wr grade on ladd. You are legitimately a casual
Penix Jr. Braelon Allen.
I watched Texas all year long and I just can't understand why people think Adonai Mitchell is as high on the board as he is. I understand why you like the traits you see on film, but I saw a guy who had difficulty dominating at the college level. There's something missing there and I don't think it's Sark's system or Ewer's fault. For as good as people think Mitchell is, you'd expect at least 1 1000 yard season with 70+ catches. He's a good red zone threat, but he's solid-not-spectacular everywhere else.
Idk dude.. I can see Nix falling and then balling out for whoever steals him. Idk about Penix though
Jordan Travis looks like Jordan Love, but that’s where the similarities end lmao. Even at Utah State you could see Jordan Love’s potential as a pure passer. Even with the bad supporting cast and inconsistency. Travis is not in that level. He will be drafted and will probably be on teams for a long time, but he is not getting drafted ahead of the big 6 guys. He is also 24 coming off a bad injury. Come on guys. Unlikely to go even day 2.
As soon as he said JJ’s arm strength was an issue I stopped caring about his opinion lmaoooo
…and then he said Penix doesn’t have touch or “layering in” throws?!? Dude did he even watch the these guys’ tapes???
Doesn’t sound like it
As a Texan fan Sweat would be nice round 1, round 2 Worthy. If Dallas really wants that running back they may have to trade up.
I think MCarthy could end up being the 3rd QB off the board to either the Giants or Atlanta who will be able to sit him for a year or two he is not ready to start right away especially on a bad team
Jordan Travis ?
Lmao Penix throws with the most touch in the class. Brett was even shocked by that take
Joel klatt said the exact opposite thing with penix. He said he was the most accurate and threw with the best leverage and touch out of anyone in the draft
Joel klatt is LYING
Curious as to why Brenden Rice is seen so low. To me he’s got a Jamarr Chase style of play and can easily become a WR1
if you think JJ's arm strength is an issue, you just haven't watched him play. lol
Though DK and JSN are both WR on the roster, their positions are different. They serve very different purposes. Hope you git the action you needed out of these inflammatory comments.
Only "sleepers" I see on this list is Raddler and Pratt
We didnt see Bo nix throw down the field this season……PROBABLY BC HE CANT. Watching this man for almost 6 years he not good take him over Penix is crazy
Panthers are drafting Jermaine Burton for Bryce in the 3rd
Bro that ain't Winks no chance. This is some weird AI dub
Steve Smith was not very high on AD Mitchell.
Coleman is Definitely not a sleeper
Good content fellas
dude said pennix had no touch lol
JAYLEN WRIGHT!!!!
Talks negatively on Troy Franklin only shows low lights… I dot. Even like the ducks like at all but common guys you can express concern and not trash the dude…
I think McConkey is a perfect fit for KC at 32
19:43 pause
Penix will be the best value pick …. When he’s eventually picked. He’ll learn.
Really not going to talk about Jaylen Wright at all?
No Jalyn Polk or Luke McCaffrey?