@@shara1979 dragon would you like some sausage??? Dragon would you like some saussss saaagessssss... Ps. Hope you're old enough to understand that reference 😂
i think he will ... since otherwise they`ll have to recast Seasmoke rider... which in the books is Laenor's or Corlys's bastard... so they`ll probably just bring Laenor back instead of Addam (the dragon seed from the book)
Dragons will only accept one rider. In the show he's not dead so he would need to return or die. Honestly though if he returns he will never be able to leave again. And his father would never forgive rhaenyra for keeping a secret of that magnitude unless she could convince him that she did not know
@@megmur1766nah there’s not very strong evidence that it’s impossible for a dragon to bond with someone else if their previous rider has abandoned them for like decade
Come on now, Laenor is dead in the books, his son, or half brother Addam of Hull claimed Seasmoke, and they were both killed in the brutal Second Battle of Tumbleton. The book is amazing…
And Tyrion is butt ugly, “in the books” Stannis is alive, “in the books” as is Daeny and Rickon, Bigjon Umber is captured and jailed at the Red Wedding, “in the books” Dorran Martell has an eldest daughter who is his heir, “in the books” - Arriane,is her name. Loras Tyrell joins the Kings Guard(under Joffrey), “in the books” You understand the pattern? So what’s new? Many things differ from the books.
I know this is random but the fact that rhaenys died without knowing laenor is alive kinda bothered me she deserved to know and that slore rhaenyra should’ve told her right before leaving knowing she was goin into battle cause you never know if you’re coming home I don’t wanna hear that she didn’t know because she totally had a feeling that an error was about to occur which is exactly why she was starring at meraxes
Her knowing that he still lives on and ran away would be more hurtful news. Her husband abandoned her for the seas and to know her son abandoned her too would be too much for her. The only one that holds deep loyalty to her is Meley's. They died together and she is pleased with that.
@@Blue_SeaSmokei agree, to tell her that her son is still alive before she goes on a potentially dangerous mission would've been so fxcked up. She might've been so unfocused that even Aegon got one over on her lol but who knows how it would've affected her mental state or what decisions she would've made in response to hearing that news
Itd be mean. She saw a body she believes is his she mourned him and was able to move on if she knew shed never be able to move on she'd be waiting till he returned because she would believe he loved her enough to come back.
@@DaaThroneThey can't bring him back because it would damage the queens image (I can't spell her name sorry) If the people knew she was still married to a very much alive laenor when she married her uncle and had his babies they would consider them bastards and the marriage a farce. It would also reignite rumors of jace's legitimacy and she would lose all support she had for the iron throne. All of her children would be considered bastards by the end.
He's definitely not coming back it would harm his ex-wife and her children and he loved them to much to do so. If he came back commoners and lords would believe her untrustworthy and consider her children with her uncle as bastards because she was already married to laenor and call back into question jace's legitimacy. She'd be considered unfit to be queen and no one would support her.
Addam of hull is going to be in season 2 they already cast him so laenor might return but probably not because he will need to actually die they will say he died in essos daemon had him killed or he died fighting.
Josh D P Martina has confirmed that leanor has change to a female and pronounced she/her that's why seasmoke can't bonding with him because it's would be cancelled by the others dragon 🐉
The reason why seasmoke is reckless is bc his rider is gone far away. His rider is not dead and it knows it. Hes reckless bc he’s still bonded to his rider and his rider has been been gone too long.
In the books he dies in essos making it possible for Adam to claim his dragon and well 🤷 it wouldn't make sense for anyone in westros to get news that he died when he is already considered dead. I don't know how the show would manage to get word of his death out to confirm his dragon could be claimed by another. I think we should just consider him dead because he is in the books and has no real part to play. His return would actually weaken the queens claim to the throne because if she was married to a very much alive laenor then her marriage to her uncle and her children by him would be illegitimate and it would reignite rumors about Jace's legitimacy leaving her the queen with all bastard heirs 😅 while that would be dramatic laenor loved his family and was grateful to her for allowing him to leave before things became to intense for him to handle. He wouldn't harm her like that.
in the show they’re assuming that because Laenor is gay Addam and Alyn of Hull are Corlys’s bastards, Addam claims Seasmoke as a dragonseed, and Laenor is claimed dead in the show, this can all work in whatever way they want. book and show canon are totally different from each other, sure, but if Laenor is still alive in the show because he flees Driftmark, how did Addam claim Seasmoke? dragons can’t be claimed/bonded to multiple people, so would that fact alone insinuate Laenor died after he fled or are we assuming dragons are not in tune enough with their riders that they can’t tell if they’re really gone or not? Laenor is dead in F&B and that’s why Seasmoke is able to be claimed.
I would love to see an exception due to being a close relative. Maybe a flashback of Leanor introducing the new rider with his blessing. Then Leanor showing up at a special moment where he too dies.
@@devorahactsthat would be literally impossible. even Aegon the conqueror wouldn't be able to bond with Vhagar even though she was his wife's dragon.
@@ameasharatcliff6357 the House of Velaryon descended from Old Valyria therefore having Valyrian blood, while Aegon I’s mother is also a Velaryon! Velaryons and Targaryens are also intermarried at many different sections of the family tree. As for the Dragonseeds, Addam and Alyn of Hull descended from Corlys or Laenor, both Ulf the White and Hugh Hammer are Valyrian descended (no info on their parentage), and Nettles has mixed Valyrian descent. with this info we can assume that to ride a dragon you have to be a descendant of a line from Old Valyria, not necessarily “blood of the dragon”. I hope this helps and makes sense :)
Laenor actually made the smartest move so far in the show. He saw that everything was falling apart and becoming a s*** show and he chose happiness and got the hell out. He was one of the few in the game of thrones universe that realized the only way to win is to get out before the craziness starts.
I agree. I feel they should not bring him back just to kill him off. Since they have shifted from the book might as well let laenor have freedom and a happy ending
Dragons can’t take a new rider as far as we are aware while there rider is alive so it would actually confirm his death now Adam is in control of seasmoke
Why did the writers bother to change the story from the book and have Laenor alive, if he is not going to come back to Westeros and our series? It doesn't make sense, and even goes against the dragon "rules"...
It would make sense if his mom found out he was alive and decided to fight for that reason. Rather than throwing her son back in the game, she sacrificed herself knowing her son was ok.
Mmhhh it's not previewed in the books.. it's written that he died the day sir Qarl killed him. Qarl which was his lover (and straight victim of his jealousy caused by the presence of many other boys around Laenor), but being well payed by Daemon. With Laenor dead, Rheanyra would have finally been free to marry.
Spoilers.... but the scene where seasmoke has just started acting weird could have been their way of saying laenor recently died. Dragons in that world have a special connection to their riders, which seems for life
Ok,……But who tells the Dragon that his rider is still alive or dead? Is it some weird mystical connection with the force, did they get a text, DM, etc, etc, etc…? Just saying, George should have thought about this a little bit better. 😊
She smoked looks a lot like Danny's dragons... Veseryon, Rhaegal and Drogon! I wonder if Those three eggs were hatched by sea smoke all those years ago in the series before GOT?🤔
@@liu06gt i wasn’t even totally sure that was seasmoke we saw, although it could be my own bias. i thought it was grey ghost because he’s my favorite wild dragon and he doesn’t deserve what sunfyre did to him 😿 poor guy just wanted to be left alone and eat fish
This dude os crazy, i don't know he left because of loyalty to rhaenyra or becaus he wanted to be with his lover 😢😢 no i could never agree with the plan go pretend i am dead, he left his dragon, parents, nieces and his sons (he raised them, they were his) all for a dude? 😢😢
Guys, Laenor is not coming back. Seasmoke has claimed Addam of Hull.
Someone new riding Seasmoke and it ain’t him😂
Naww he abandoned his dragon for sausage.... He wont be back....
😂😂😂
He'll b back for dragon sausage. And if the dragon don't give it up, then he'll turn him into dragon sausage's 🌭
@@shara1979 nawww he cheated on the dragon. No sausage for him
@@shara1979 dragon would you like some sausage??? Dragon would you like some saussss saaagessssss...
Ps. Hope you're old enough to understand that reference 😂
i think he will ... since otherwise they`ll have to recast Seasmoke rider... which in the books is Laenor's or Corlys's bastard... so they`ll probably just bring Laenor back instead of Addam (the dragon seed from the book)
I liked finding out this reveal from you, but if you could turn the music down a bit in future, that'd be great!
It’s not actually a ‘reveal;’ he’s speculating. I do hope he’s right though.
I don’t have a problem with the sounds.
@@m.williams4971 ok
🤣 Karen energy, slightly, but fair assessment 🤣
House of the dragon season 2 episode 6: HOLD MY BEER!😅
It is not Laenor who will ride Seasmoke, but one of the dragonseeds, like the ones who would ride Sheepstealer and Vermithor
It’s whomever is chosen. Few things have to be exactly like the books.
Dragons will only accept one rider. In the show he's not dead so he would need to return or die. Honestly though if he returns he will never be able to leave again. And his father would never forgive rhaenyra for keeping a secret of that magnitude unless she could convince him that she did not know
No one will ever ride sheepstealer
@@megmur1766nah there’s not very strong evidence that it’s impossible for a dragon to bond with someone else if their previous rider has abandoned them for like decade
@@TahabougaNettles rode Sheepstealer. First and last rider.
Come on now, Laenor is dead in the books, his son, or half brother Addam of Hull claimed Seasmoke, and they were both killed in the brutal Second Battle of Tumbleton. The book is amazing…
😢
Vermithor ended Seasmoke,
I think he was drunk af in a brothel and didn't care who he fs and that's how Addam was made and born 😂😂 should have done the same with Rhaenyra
And Tyrion is butt ugly, “in the books”
Stannis is alive, “in the books” as is Daeny and Rickon,
Bigjon Umber is captured and jailed at the Red Wedding, “in the books”
Dorran Martell has an eldest daughter who is his heir, “in the books” - Arriane,is her name.
Loras Tyrell joins the Kings Guard(under Joffrey), “in the books”
You understand the pattern? So what’s new? Many things differ from the books.
@@thedarkblackspeedy3140 That’s B.S. - So tell us then what battle or after what battle does that happen?
Addam Velaryon: (exists)
Seasmoke: You son of a b****, I'm in.
I know this is random but the fact that rhaenys died without knowing laenor is alive kinda bothered me she deserved to know and that slore rhaenyra should’ve told her right before leaving knowing she was goin into battle cause you never know if you’re coming home I don’t wanna hear that she didn’t know because she totally had a feeling that an error was about to occur which is exactly why she was starring at meraxes
Her knowing that he still lives on and ran away would be more hurtful news. Her husband abandoned her for the seas and to know her son abandoned her too would be too much for her. The only one that holds deep loyalty to her is Meley's. They died together and she is pleased with that.
@@Blue_SeaSmokei agree, to tell her that her son is still alive before she goes on a potentially dangerous mission would've been so fxcked up. She might've been so unfocused that even Aegon got one over on her lol but who knows how it would've affected her mental state or what decisions she would've made in response to hearing that news
Itd be mean. She saw a body she believes is his she mourned him and was able to move on if she knew shed never be able to move on she'd be waiting till he returned because she would believe he loved her enough to come back.
It’s also possible he died in essos
Well, that's a possibility! Let's see
@@DaaThroneThey can't bring him back because it would damage the queens image (I can't spell her name sorry) If the people knew she was still married to a very much alive laenor when she married her uncle and had his babies they would consider them bastards and the marriage a farce. It would also reignite rumors of jace's legitimacy and she would lose all support she had for the iron throne. All of her children would be considered bastards by the end.
I thought that happen because his Dragon choose a new Rider!
I hope it’s true!! I’d love to see his return
The showrunner lied 😂
Yay!!!Laenor because Corlys needs some good news in his life
Laenor is never coming back. He's dead or gone forever.
His half brother Addam is Seasmokes new rider.
He's definitely not coming back it would harm his ex-wife and her children and he loved them to much to do so. If he came back commoners and lords would believe her untrustworthy and consider her children with her uncle as bastards because she was already married to laenor and call back into question jace's legitimacy. She'd be considered unfit to be queen and no one would support her.
The show goes on ❤
Seasmoke has a new owner now 😅
I wondered about Seasmoke. Wouldn't he have left when Laenor did? In the books Laenor is dead.
They've already introduced Allan of hull. Clearly that scene is a red herring
If yall knew what Daemon was actually up to during his time in Harrenhall yall would pray for more visions 😬😅
What is he up to ? Trying to become king is what is coming apparent ...
Adam takes seasmoke.
Addam of hull is going to be in season 2 they already cast him so laenor might return but probably not because he will need to actually die they will say he died in essos daemon had him killed or he died fighting.
Josh D P Martina has confirmed that leanor has change to a female and pronounced she/her that's why seasmoke can't bonding with him because it's would be cancelled by the others dragon 🐉
The reason why seasmoke is reckless is bc his rider is gone far away. His rider is not dead and it knows it. Hes reckless bc he’s still bonded to his rider and his rider has been been gone too long.
Seasmoke needs to find him and can very well can.
In the books he dies in essos making it possible for Adam to claim his dragon and well 🤷 it wouldn't make sense for anyone in westros to get news that he died when he is already considered dead. I don't know how the show would manage to get word of his death out to confirm his dragon could be claimed by another. I think we should just consider him dead because he is in the books and has no real part to play. His return would actually weaken the queens claim to the throne because if she was married to a very much alive laenor then her marriage to her uncle and her children by him would be illegitimate and it would reignite rumors about Jace's legitimacy leaving her the queen with all bastard heirs 😅 while that would be dramatic laenor loved his family and was grateful to her for allowing him to leave before things became to intense for him to handle. He wouldn't harm her like that.
He is dead . He is not coming back . Full stop
Addam claimed seasmoke😂
It's the other way actually. Seasmoke claimed Adam 😂
@@quenniebaguion5868 yeah😂
The other way either .😅
This is proving to be a cluster fuck of a tv show. I on one hand am not surprised.
Seasmoke wants Laenor to be hsppy
Laenor probably died in the stepstones
I hope he's back. I needed his character!!!!!! Please let him come back and have a big win and then leave. Don't kill him offffffffffff
That would invalidate Rhaenyra and Daemon's marriage and make their children bastards.
in the show they’re assuming that because Laenor is gay Addam and Alyn of Hull are Corlys’s bastards, Addam claims Seasmoke as a dragonseed, and Laenor is claimed dead in the show, this can all work in whatever way they want. book and show canon are totally different from each other, sure, but if Laenor is still alive in the show because he flees Driftmark, how did Addam claim Seasmoke? dragons can’t be claimed/bonded to multiple people, so would that fact alone insinuate Laenor died after he fled or are we assuming dragons are not in tune enough with their riders that they can’t tell if they’re really gone or not? Laenor is dead in F&B and that’s why Seasmoke is able to be claimed.
I would love to see an exception due to being a close relative. Maybe a flashback of Leanor introducing the new rider with his blessing. Then Leanor showing up at a special moment where he too dies.
@@devorahactsthat would be literally impossible. even Aegon the conqueror wouldn't be able to bond with Vhagar even though she was his wife's dragon.
@@devorahacts it would never pass the GRRM inspection, it’s too stupid and goes against the sole plot points of the show and the book
How are son's of Corlys qualified to be dragon seeds? Thought dragon seeds had to have Targaryen blood.
@@ameasharatcliff6357 the House of Velaryon descended from Old Valyria therefore having Valyrian blood, while Aegon I’s mother is also a Velaryon! Velaryons and Targaryens are also intermarried at many different sections of the family tree. As for the Dragonseeds, Addam and Alyn of Hull descended from Corlys or Laenor, both Ulf the White and Hugh Hammer are Valyrian descended (no info on their parentage), and Nettles has mixed Valyrian descent. with this info we can assume that to ride a dragon you have to be a descendant of a line from Old Valyria, not necessarily “blood of the dragon”. I hope this helps and makes sense :)
Laenor actually made the smartest move so far in the show. He saw that everything was falling apart and becoming a s*** show and he chose happiness and got the hell out. He was one of the few in the game of thrones universe that realized the only way to win is to get out before the craziness starts.
I agree. I feel they should not bring him back just to kill him off. Since they have shifted from the book might as well let laenor have freedom and a happy ending
Laenon faz falta na Serie....Um cara do bem e se impos como esposo de Rayenira e como padrasto de seus filhos....Muito alem de Daemon, certamente....
I wondered if he was coming back
I mean his mother died so he's gotta come back! Personally I wouldn't have came back, seeing is how his mom didn't approve of him.
He needs to come back. Imma be pissed if they just kill him off screen and that’s what everyone is going to think if he bonds with someone else
Well they already did get Seasmoke a rider. Laenor is no more. Unfortunately.
It would of been cool to see him return to try and save his mother only for them both to perish
Adam hull
Dragons can’t take a new rider as far as we are aware while there rider is alive so it would actually confirm his death now Adam is in control of seasmoke
Why did the writers bother to change the story from the book and have Laenor alive, if he is not going to come back to Westeros and our series? It doesn't make sense, and even goes against the dragon "rules"...
Seasmoke has chosen a new rider so he absolutely must have died in Essos
I think this would be a nice twist. But, it would expose too much for team black.
Or Adam is taking it like in the books🤷🏻♂️
Leanor would definitely be team black if he was alive
It would make sense if his mom found out he was alive and decided to fight for that reason. Rather than throwing her son back in the game, she sacrificed herself knowing her son was ok.
As we know it is Addam Velaryon who will bond with Seasmoke, but if the show decides to change that then I hope it's true.
Mmhhh it's not previewed in the books.. it's written that he died the day sir Qarl killed him. Qarl which was his lover (and straight victim of his jealousy caused by the presence of many other boys around Laenor), but being well payed by Daemon. With Laenor dead, Rheanyra would have finally been free to marry.
Would be great if he cones back but I guess they find a new rider for seasmoke
also are we sure that was seasmoke we saw? i was under the impression it was the grey ghost, as he mostly hunted fish and lived by the sea
Seasmoke is an absolute gigachad of a dragon.
The way he injures vermithor and tessarion.....well I shouldn't spoil anymore....
Adam is riding sea smoke
Or maybe he has died and his dragon is restless because he senses it
"And the blacks my find a new rider for seasmoke"? Who are the blacks? House Valeryon?
Bro spitting shits!!
Adam of hull claims sea smoke!!💯
Laenor rather ride a man than a dragon
People get all offended and pissed but that kiss was not needed
To me it felt forced and out of place and just so not the time and place
He's not confirmed alive. Seasmoke showing up could mean he died at some point and seasmoke is now looking for a new rider like Alyn
Pretty sure the ship builder who rescued Corbis from the sea is suppose to be him
SAUSAGE > DRAGON
How many dragons blacks need to defeat the greens. Looks like 12 vs 4 but now 11 vs 3. Still they don't have the guts to be offensive.
Who's gonna tell him?
Seasmoke has another rider S02E06
Bold of you to assume they care about the lore or the logic of the world these stories take place in
Who knows? Perhaps he died in Essos?
Just few reels ago bro told that leanor is killed by daemon in the book…🎉
Spoilers.... but the scene where seasmoke has just started acting weird could have been their way of saying laenor recently died. Dragons in that world have a special connection to their riders, which seems for life
Laenor ❤
He’s died in the book also if he showed his face this will weaken rynea claim to the throne
Well this video didn’t age well.
Ok,……But who tells the Dragon that his rider is still alive or dead? Is it some weird mystical connection with the force, did they get a text, DM, etc, etc, etc…? Just saying, George should have thought about this a little bit better. 😊
No, he’s not coming back. His half brothers will take control of his dragon.
This aged bad 😂😅
He could've died in Essos like in the book's but in the book's they know Sir Carl kills him
What is going to happen when his parents find out that he’s not even dead and Rhaenyra knew about it the whole time?
Adam of Hull will claim Sea Smoke.
She smoked looks a lot like Danny's dragons... Veseryon, Rhaegal and Drogon! I wonder if Those three eggs were hatched by sea smoke all those years ago in the series before GOT?🤔
They're brothers, seasmoke being the eldest. Dreamfyre is their mother. Drogon & Company were just born 200 years late
@@hasanrahman9366 DREAMFIRE!!!! riiight ...thx buddy 👍
Caraxes , Meleys , Seasmoke , Sunfyre , Tessarion , Shrykos , Morghul are all big brothers and sisters to Dany's dragons
Two words. Dragon seeds
I don't think that Dragon-Rider connection is canon to the show, or at least there's not enough solid evidence.
This gay will return because his mother met a brutal death. He will take his revenge
Laneor Velaryon house of NLE choppa
Guess we know this is false now😂
I don’t think Beatrice mother is very happy
Nah. They would have to kill him off screen.
Yeah lenaor find that son luke
Nah remember danarys had Jon snow ride a dragon even tho they were all bonded with her
Danny was their mother, but as a rider she was only bonded with drogon. She never rides any of the other two
Well this aged wrong
Cap .... he's not coming back, bro is chilling 😂
He gets bonded to one of coraly’s bastards. Laenor isn’t supposed to return
Sooo what have you to say for yourself? Spreading fake news for likes & views...
He is dead in the books!
yea no. seasmoke is claimed by addam of hull
yup. foreshadowed in episode 2, as adam is watching seasmoke fly.
this creator has some really tenuous reaches
@@liu06gt i wasn’t even totally sure that was seasmoke we saw, although it could be my own bias. i thought it was grey ghost because he’s my favorite wild dragon and he doesn’t deserve what sunfyre did to him 😿 poor guy just wanted to be left alone and eat fish
@@methuselahh_ showrunners confirmed it was seasmoke. it makes sense because that’s the dragon he will ride.
@@methuselahh_ yah. the showrunners confirmed it. that’s why they filmed addam watching seasmoke because he would eventually be that dragon seed.
The Black's?
This dude os crazy, i don't know he left because of loyalty to rhaenyra or becaus he wanted to be with his lover 😢😢 no i could never agree with the plan go pretend i am dead, he left his dragon, parents, nieces and his sons (he raised them, they were his) all for a dude? 😢😢
Wrong
use real voice then i listen
Dragon seed
Don't come back, don't need gay stuff
The blacks huh
Literally not true lol
He will be killed off