A few details from our Level 4 offensive stick download, discussing the use of stick at extreme close range. To view the complete download, please visit: combatprofesso...
You should add abanico. There was an external slap, but please try to slowly follow that trajectory in the opposite direction. From there you can change to thrusting. The technique of striking outward is ``yin'', and the technique of the shape of the thrust is ``yang'', which also means a change in style. I think you'll understand if you try it with a long stick. I think it will be a form of spearmanship. Also, the external strike can be used for blocks and parries. If you move your legs from that state, you can also use it as a lunge technique.
My concern here is quick and easy home defense. Not traditional martial art or pseudo mystical energy explanations for smacking someone with a baseball bat.
I have a bat for obvious reasons and i box but i always felt off holdong one for self defence but the boxing stance makes sence, awsome how you put these two together
If I'm not mistaken, bladed weapons are typically held on the side further away from the opponent with the exception of weapons like a rapier, which offer ample hand-protection, long-range, and are held such that the enemy could impale himself, if he tried to cut the wielder... With more cut-, or bludgeoning focused weapons, it becomes quite strenuous to go into that guard and it makes the primary attack slower. Moreover, the hand becomes an easy target! What good does it do, if you hold the weapon arm in the rear making it easier for the opponent to attack your head and torso than the weapon arm? Well, you either have a shield in the other hand, or you stay out of range until you strike. This is mostly done with at least a half-step but can be accomplished with leaning backward and forward. I think that this also explains why many unarmed martial arts still practice punching with a step when you hardly ever see it on the street and even less in the ring as it is quite a slow and predictable attack, but when it comes to you facing off against someone with a dagger, you want to stay out of range for as long as possible. At least that's my theory on the origin. In practice, it obviously gives students more time to prepare their defense for practice... PS: I do think that some cutlasses, basket-hilted swords, backswords, and sabers were also held in the front hand, but mostly in a hanging guard. Personally, I don't see much sense in doing so, as you don't offend with the point and it is still awkward to strike from that position, but at least it makes parrying a bit faster. Needless to say, I haven't practiced any of these fighting systems.
It’s varies. People clinch and grab sticks, so for retention it’s much easier to keep it back . With a sword someone grabbing the blade is less of a concern . In the case of telescopic batons it also allows more drawing time. For law enforcement officers it can play into perceived attempt to deescalate and influence use of force judgements . Think of the perceived difference between a cop holding it out with the lead hand like a sword versus rear hand on the shoulder. There’s a world of difference in how offensive it looks. At close range, Sticks are best controlled with two hands so it’s faster and easier in this position. If you are lead hand you lose a best stepping back. I wouldn’t walk into a tight Galway with the bat out in front as I turn corners . Better retracted leaving my lead hand to navigate doors, shield, etc
If you got a longer club, but not enough room to swing it, I guess it's still better to hold it like a rifle and attack with pokes and butt-strikes than dropping the weapon.
Hello Coach I have a question, if you ranking whould making about heavyweights GnP how be ranking system, I mean volume, accuracy , power, aggression, positional dominance, explosiveness (cain velasquez, stipe Miocic, cormier, Blaydes, lesnar, coleman, dan severn )?
What's the point of attacking with directions that would correspond to the flat of the blade? I've seen it quite a few times in systems like Silat/Kali. It doesn't seem to be a strong biomechanical position and just altering slightly would allow you to hit as in a regular cut without bringing the wrist out of line.
At close range you don’t always have the space to turn the hand . Especially in clinches if there is weight against the stick. Telegraphy is also a factor. Shortest and fastest path. Think extreme close range, jammed up against a wall etc. Especially in clinching dynamics. Like snapping with the saya to make space to draw a katana. Close quarter wetiks in Kali often do this to. . The whole goal is to make space to get to the sticks ideal range. With a blade you can just push a d cut by turning the edge towards the subject. The stick doesn’t enjoy that advantage.
@@systemacanada thank u. I don’t know if you have thought about doing a segment based on the older generation. We can’t creat space and run. We may not be able to grapple very well and for sure not long. And yet we are a target group of folks easy soft target. Really no one address our needs. Hope you would consider us! Love your vids! Thanks.
British police take this stance but you can tell, even when in public order units, they are not well trained, and are very limited in what they can do.
You should add abanico.
There was an external slap, but please try to slowly follow that trajectory in the opposite direction. From there you can change to thrusting.
The technique of striking outward is ``yin'', and the technique of the shape of the thrust is ``yang'', which also means a change in style. I think you'll understand if you try it with a long stick. I think it will be a form of spearmanship.
Also, the external strike can be used for blocks and parries. If you move your legs from that state, you can also use it as a lunge technique.
My concern here is quick and easy home defense. Not traditional martial art or pseudo mystical energy explanations for smacking someone with a baseball bat.
I have a bat for obvious reasons and i box but i always felt off holdong one for self defence but the boxing stance makes sence, awsome how you put these two together
Thanks . I love the feel as well.
Good stuff!
Thanks James
If I'm not mistaken, bladed weapons are typically held on the side further away from the opponent with the exception of weapons like a rapier, which offer ample hand-protection, long-range, and are held such that the enemy could impale himself, if he tried to cut the wielder...
With more cut-, or bludgeoning focused weapons, it becomes quite strenuous to go into that guard and it makes the primary attack slower. Moreover, the hand becomes an easy target!
What good does it do, if you hold the weapon arm in the rear making it easier for the opponent to attack your head and torso than the weapon arm?
Well, you either have a shield in the other hand, or you stay out of range until you strike. This is mostly done with at least a half-step but can be accomplished with leaning backward and forward. I think that this also explains why many unarmed martial arts still practice punching with a step when you hardly ever see it on the street and even less in the ring as it is quite a slow and predictable attack, but when it comes to you facing off against someone with a dagger, you want to stay out of range for as long as possible. At least that's my theory on the origin. In practice, it obviously gives students more time to prepare their defense for practice...
PS: I do think that some cutlasses, basket-hilted swords, backswords, and sabers were also held in the front hand, but mostly in a hanging guard. Personally, I don't see much sense in doing so, as you don't offend with the point and it is still awkward to strike from that position, but at least it makes parrying a bit faster. Needless to say, I haven't practiced any of these fighting systems.
It’s varies. People clinch and grab sticks, so for retention it’s much easier to keep it back . With a sword someone grabbing the blade is less of a concern . In the case of telescopic batons it also allows more drawing time. For law enforcement officers it can play into perceived attempt to deescalate and influence use of force judgements . Think of the perceived difference between a cop holding it out with the lead hand like a sword versus rear hand on the shoulder. There’s a world of difference in how offensive it looks. At close range, Sticks are best controlled with two hands so it’s faster and easier in this position. If you are lead hand you lose a best stepping back. I wouldn’t walk into a tight Galway with the bat out in front as I turn corners . Better retracted leaving my lead hand to navigate doors, shield, etc
If you got a longer club, but not enough room to swing it, I guess it's still better to hold it like a rifle and attack with pokes and butt-strikes than dropping the weapon.
Yes rifle grip is a lot better retention too
Kevin how long is that club? I'm having to cut one from a wheel barrel handle.
24 inches.
Hello Coach I have a question, if you ranking whould making about heavyweights GnP how be ranking system, I mean volume, accuracy , power, aggression, positional dominance, explosiveness (cain velasquez, stipe Miocic, cormier, Blaydes, lesnar, coleman, dan severn )?
I like lesnar I think just for the short strikes, the use of control etc. Not pretty but terrifying.
What's the point of attacking with directions that would correspond to the flat of the blade? I've seen it quite a few times in systems like Silat/Kali. It doesn't seem to be a strong biomechanical position and just altering slightly would allow you to hit as in a regular cut without bringing the wrist out of line.
At close range you don’t always have the space to turn the hand . Especially in clinches if there is weight against the stick. Telegraphy is also a factor. Shortest and fastest path. Think extreme close range, jammed up against a wall etc. Especially in clinching dynamics. Like snapping with the saya to make space to draw a katana. Close quarter wetiks in Kali often do this to. . The whole goal is to make space to get to the sticks ideal range. With a blade you can just push a d cut by turning the edge towards the subject. The stick doesn’t enjoy that advantage.
@@systemacanada Thank you for the explanations.
What is the length of bat u r using in the video?
That’s a 26 inch junior t ball bat
@@systemacanada thank u. I don’t know if you have thought about doing a segment based on the older generation. We can’t creat space and run. We may not be able to grapple very well and for sure not long. And yet we are a target group of folks easy soft target. Really no one address our needs. Hope you would consider us! Love your vids! Thanks.
@@tombrown5955 that’s a great idea. I definitely will. Thank you for the suggestion and for watching .
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British police take this stance but you can tell, even when in public order units, they are not well trained, and are very limited in what they can do.
It’s pretty common in tactical circles but yes like anything else it requires continuous training