5 Things I HATE About My Manual Transmission Toyota Supra!!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 7. 08. 2024
- đ Here We Go... The classic 5 thing I HATE about my car video! So I recently bought the al new 2023 Toyota GR Supra equipped with the 6 speed manual transmission. So what is there to possible hate about this legendary car wearing the Supra name and having a manual transmission? So this video I go over the drawbacks with the MK5 Supra. Some are specific to the manual Supra variant, and the rest are MK5 Supra in general. Overall I do love the Supra and it having a manual transmission makes it one of the absolute best sportscars on the market! However there are some drawbacks and some things that could be better. If you are about to drop some money and buy a Toyota Supra, hopefully knowing any and all downsides with the MK5 Toyota Supra can help you know exactly what your getting and have zero regrets! I can say the awesome aspects of the manual Supra especially, far outweigh any minor nit picky drawbacks! So point number 1 is that the Supra is a bit tight to get in and out of and visibility isn't the best if your not used to small cars. My back will hit the roof line sometimes and if you can't open the door all the way, my legs need some time to fold into the car. For taller people it might be a challenge getting in and out. Once inside it's very comfortable, but it could be challenging for some to get in and out. Point number 2 is the awful wind buffeting! The new Supra can't be driven with the windows down since the cabin will vibrate! Very poor design on the Supra but can be solved easily with a set of wind deflectors. Point number 3 is the lack of a trunk button on the rear bumper! Several times after popping the trunk, it will close back down and force you to walk back to the door or dig your key out to press the button again. Z4 has one and it's built alongside the Supra! Point number 4 is some of the interior buttons and layout. Climate control doesn't sync temperature. Fan speed doesn't really seem to do anything until you are up to fan speed 4 or more. And the click button wont let you crank it up as fast as you press the button. Steering wheel controls would be better if the scroll wheel was volume and the tap button was change track. No adaptive cruise for the manual. And sometimes I punch the climate controls when shifting to 3rd gear. Number 5 is that reverse has quite a lot of resistance. Never been in a car that took that much to engage reverse. Obviously it's doable and you get used to it. But it took some time to get used to that. The 1st to 2nd gear change is also a bit challenging to do quickly and smooth. Once again takes some practice and I can do it pretty well now, but it takes some focus. Overall the manual in the Supra is amazing to row through gears and feels so precise, but maybe it just needs to break in a bit more for reverse and 2nd gear. I do love my manual Supra and these downfalls are what they are! Car is worth buying all day, especially in the manual!
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5 Things I HATE About My Manual Transmission Toyota Supra!!
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I thought about 5 things I hate about "5 things I hate" videos, but this video has the most seriously informative and useful content I've watched in some time. Glad I watched it (the car, of course) though I have usually just passed on such videos. Well done.
Glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah I like pointing our real aspects of a car to give the best information about what it's like owning these cars! Still one of my most favorite cars I've owned!
Iâm 5â10â with a dad-bod and your point #1 about getting in and out is too true! And itâs not a minor point since you gotta get in to drive it! đ But it wouldnât stop me from owning one. Great video. One of the more genuine (and less nit-picky) thank other âthings I hateâ videos.
Very true! It's not bad when you can open the door all the way. But when you can't, it really becomes a small opening to get into! Certainly well worth the extra effort to get into the car to enjoy the driving experience!
Nice vodeo.
At beginning, when you enter inside the car, you looked like Jeremy Ckarkson into Ford GT 40 ;-)
lol ;)
For the cabin pressure, have you tried raising the trunk lid standoffs? They come from the factory screwed all the way in. Try unscrewing them to set the trunk lit a little higher it seems to reduce the seal just enough that the re-latching when you close the door isn't as much of a problem.
Yeah Iâve messed with them. But if I adjust them any more, when the trunk is closed it doesnât line up with the fenders
As a Supra owner as well, I HATE how there is no dipstick, the clam shell hood gets super dirty/grimy where itâs covers the wheel wells, and for a $50k+ car there is no remote start option. But generally, I love the car.
Yeah they really want you to just have the dealership do maintenance. Would be nice to have a physical way to measure for sure! And yeah right above the front tires gets very dirty under there
Not having adaptive cruise control is not a negative, it's a positive.
Why? I love using that feature in other cars..
@BrosFOURRSpeed it's just another thing to take control away from the driver. I've had it in a previous car and it drove me nuts. Would never option it. Reminded me of lane keep assist or whatever it is called, constantly doing something I don't want it to do. Our cars are becoming overly electrically controlled. I realize that's hard to avoid nowadays but I just prefer a more analog experience...particularly in a high performance sports car like the Supra.
When on cruise I like it since I don't have to hit the brakes when a car comes in front. I do have the lane stuff all off and everything else off. But radar cruise seems to make things convenient for when driving when just cruising. Can still have all the fun in the car tho
@BrosFOURRSpeed Yeah I'm just not a fan. Anytime my car tries to do something I didn't tell it to....drives me nuts. I thought I would like it to but just ended up hating it.
@@topcover7390 yeah I hear you. I hate the lane keep and steering intervention. Keep all those off. But for long highway cruising I do enjoy the adaptive systems. Aside from that and blind spot alert, I like everything off
Awesome videos on the Supra, my friend are you still going to put the JB4 on. I have the same car as you and was thinking about the JB4. I have heard that the manual has had some issues with the JB4.
Yeah Iâve heard some negatives with the JB4. So Iâm still thinking about what is best to do! Would love to show something other then ECU tuning just for the content for other owners to see. But weâll see whatâs best!
The inability to go smooth 1-2 gear quickly is due to the clutch delay valve. Its a one hour job with hand tools to remove. It fixes it.
Yeah I've heard people mention that. What's the point of the delay valve if people can just remove it and it doesn't harm anything?
â@@BrosFOURRSpeedIt does harm something if you remove it. If someone is harsh or likes to clutch dump their shifts, they will be wearing out the clutch faster than if you leave the CDV in.
@@chrisginoc Interesting. Iâll probably leave it. With more driving Iâm able to shift it better. But Iâm not drag racing the car, so I guess I donât need to shift any faster đ
I think by delaying the clutch engagement, it sacrifices the clutch to save the transmission. But honestly, this would only save the transmission from bad drivers who can't shift well. For the rest of us, it's needless clutch slip and awkward clutch engagement coordination.
My 05 Corolla XRS had the same reverse on the stick, and I think that is a lot better than that pull up collars. Just way more intuitive once you know about it.
Yeah I've got pretty used to it now and it doesnt really bother me much. Took some getting used to having to just force it over
MKV Supra trunk button issues are real. Wind buffeting is bad but the QoL improvement from giving that trunk some attention (aka an external button) would be great.
Yeah those would be such simple fixes to make this car just that much more livable.
#3 is solvable by changing the hight of two rubber bumps at the end of body where comes the hatch. These rubber bumps can be adjusted the hight by screwing up or down to avoid unintentional close of back hatch.
I love your video watching from Tokyo!
Doesn't the passenger side have more room because they put the center console in wrong?
I havenât noticed that. Both seats seems to offer a lot of space. Very comfortable car overall
Its time for the carbon fiber outside mirrors. That's my only complaint lol Except that trunk locking is hilarious lol it will lock itself đ Stone cold Crazy lol. Metallica does a good cover of that song đ” too lol
Haha yeah I want some carbon mirror caps!
My 09 bmw 323 doesnt have a button on trunk, also doesnât have sync button for temp both sides. I guess thats how old system bmw using on supras.đ
haha for real!
With the song change thing you dont have to press it to bring it up you can just scroll and it will bring the menu up
Yeah I know. I end up doing that. But still you have to scroll it down and then click for next track. Weird to make it two steps
700 miles? Damn bro. I got my 6MT in February and I have 2,200 miles and thought I had low miles đ
Lol this isnât a daily. As of now, all of the miles on the car are from videos. I havenât really just driven the car outside of filming. However I just hit 1,000 miles on the car. So Iâm getting there đ
Any gripes or complaints with the stereo system? I hear a lot about how bad it is. I don't think it is as bad as people make it out to be. Also, I hear a lot of complaints about the trunk privacy cover rattling too much.
To me it sounds good. I don't really listen to music all too loud, so it sounds good to me. I'm sure the people who blast music loud may notice a difference between stock and an aftermarket system
For the horn it almost sounds like they didn't install a low tone horn. Just fixed a factory defect on a Jetta this morning where the horn sounded the same as the supra, pin wasn't inserted all the way. Whenever I decide to purchase a supra I may jack horns from another bmw at the junk yard or grab a pair online to swap out lol.
Oh cool. Yeah I've seen some people add a horn from Lexus and that seems to work. I never got around to changing it. But it's so silly stock!
I love the design but all the fake vents seem off. I think the interior is fairly blah for this price point. At the very least a new steering wheel design is in order.
Yeah they could have at least made the hood vents functional. It does have real brake ducts tho. And I wish there was more carbon and a cooler steering wheel for sure!
With The AC fan you should be able to hold the fan button to make it go all the way up, and with the switching of the music with the button you can just scroll, I have a 22 Supra.
Yeah but just holding the fan button takes a bit of time. I like how the temp I can is instantly crank it up. How do you scroll the song track? Using the steering wheel you have the click the roller wheel
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I guess I just scroll with the button on the steering wheel while simultaneously pressing down on the button, so therefore I donât have to click the button and scroll down
@@imVhls Yeah I can do it quicker too by just rolling it down as I click it. So thereâs ways to make it work quicker. But itâd just be much nicer if it was more intuitive
Solid gripes on the Supra. Trunk latch is a big miss, wind buffeting not good either. Shifter from BMW should be top notch. I've been watching your videos for a few years going back to the red Z. My favorite car of yours, hands down - pearl white NISMO. Best looking performance sports car! Nice work on your videos!
Yeah that was a super fun car for sure at the time! Loving the manual Supra now tho. This and my GTR are my favorites! But that old Nismo has a special place too ;)
The 1st to 2nd issue is what my friend has with his car as well! He has a BMW M240i. Same engine and everything as the Supra and I thought he was crazy till I took it for a spin when I had the same problem! Small issue, but definitely there. Haha
Yeah apparently there is a clutch delay valve or something that makes it not the quickest for that gear change.
Did BMW manage to put that notorious clutch delay valve in the Supra? It's very annoying in my 328i 6 speed. I've read people removing it somehow and making it feel like a normal shifting manual.
Yeah they did. Not sure the reasoning for it and seems like a lot of people do remove it already
Interesting
The horn sounds like a train... đđ
A wimpy train lol
Does it have power folding mirrors?
It does! I have them fold automatically when I lock the car. Can also press a button on the door to fold them
Nice thank you
The Camaro isn't bad at all, plus I don't hit my head getting in and out! Rear camera mirror solves the blind spot issue.
Yeah that camera mirror would be great to see in this!
I'm so sick of climbing into my Supra. The window /roof angle is not great. I've had my Supra for about 12 months, and it still annoys me getting in and out.
I hit my back quite a bit on my last Supra. I hardly do it on this one. I think Iâve just got used to getting into the car a bit slower lol
Did you try using the ultra cheap and 1000x talked about buffeting vanes on the mirrors? Does anyone ever review without talking about them for years?
I've seen people do the cheap ones off amazon. I like my AWE ones tho. The work and look great
@@BrosFOURRSpeed i just saw your newer video on the Awes after this one. Very cool. I am still trying to decide if this is a good purchase or not. Have you ever driven it in the snow?
@@doriangray2347 Iâve driven my old Supra in the snow. If you have snow tires these could be fine. Itâs still RWD. An Audi RS3 could be a great alternative for AWD or a BMW M240i xDrive
I found a company that protects screens inside a car. screenprotech will help with fingerprints, etc.
Yeah thats cool!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed in case you want another mod idea.
A fun car!
Heck yeah! I do love it overall!
The horn sounds like a clown's car lol. Other than that, all the other gripes are manageable. I've driven both and think I'm going with the ZF8 trans :)
haha yeah it's so silly sounding! Definitely a great car! ZF is one of the best autos out there!
Ya you already missed my Nissan GTR because it was fun and useful đ đmy friend đ so what about RS3 how much does it cost for savice what you don't like about it.
I like RS3 because it is fun and useful đ đ đ the size of a car it counts my friend.
lol I actually filmed this video 2 months ago. Our RS3 will be here later in the year or early next year. But I'm sure after some time with it we'll find some nit picky things we don't like about it.
Thanks my friend I will wait for that video in SA car's are too expensive I can't afford it đą đ but maybe some days I will have it too
@@mokhesengramaisa8202oh dang! Yeah just keep working towards it!
being honest about a carâs real ownership is great!
For sure! Some people don't like hearing this lol. But every car certainly has downfalls
But it's still good car!
Heck yeah! One of the best cars I've owned!
Iâll never understand how âitâs hard to get in my super low sports car thatâs not designed for basic comfortâ makes it in these top 5 lists
Because some people want a sportscar but have trouble getting in and out. With the doors if I can only open it part way like I showed in the video, its pretty hard getting in and out. When you actually own a car and drive it, those things stand out. Also this car is so good, these 5 things are the only negatives. As mentioned in the video, its a comfortable car, but it does have a lower roofline then its competitors and you will notice that with the Supra over other cars like it.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I definitely understand the complaint about the car Iâm just saying this is something that I expect to deal with. Any time a new passenger gets in my car itâs almost always the first thing they mention but Iâve just adopted it as a way of life haha
Yeah as an owner we get used to it. But since it's very noticeable, it's worth mentioning for potential buyers. Back when I owned my NIsmo 370z, the previous owner got tired of how it was difficult to get in and out. He was 60 and loved cars, but it just got too much for him. He want back to a Mercedes SL lol
It definitely need a manual e brake. Overall at least they made it with a manual.
Yeah that would be pretty cool to see for the manual Supra. Or even do what the new Mustang has and let it do both
The cabin pressure trunk situation is dumb, sometimes it bounce back when I close it lol
Yeah itâs very weird. Normally they put some sort of vent in the trunk to avoid this type of problem
I have a BMW with the same situations. You just get used to it after about a month. And thereâs ways around everything you complained about. I think you complain way too much! One thing I agree on is the wind buffeting. Toyota should have fixed after the first year! It may have mostly BMW parts, but the car was designed by Toyota not BMW.
Thereâs a difference between complaining and showing aspects of a car that are less then ideal. Nothing I said was wrong. Not being able to sync dual zone climate in a $60k car is pretty dumb. No radar cruise when other manual sportscars have it, and the other points. All good consumer advise for people looking to buy this
Great pointing out the cons to the car but after watching this, my #1 is the horn. Itâs gotta go! Nobody is going to take you serious when you toot that thing! đ€Ł
For real! Definitly super wimpy sounding. I've seen a lot of people install a new one tho that just plugs in
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I currently have a â21 Lexus IS 350. The horn is one of the louder stock horns Iâve ever heard. How has the Supraâs reliability been for you, any problems? Is it just a short term car?
@@808dms Supras are actually very reliable. Owned my 2020 for 2 years with no issues. And there are several Supra owners getting to the 60k mileage mark still no issues. These car have been pretty proven as one of the most reliable cars out there. 2021 is the only year to be cautious of. They burn a tad bit of oil. But the other years are bulletproof
@@BrosFOURRSpeed did you buy the extended warranty for it?
@@808dms No. Why would I? Vehicle already has a warranty on it and itâs covered bumper to bumper for the first 3 years. Extended warranties are scams lol. I used to work in the car industry. Especially on reliability new cars, just a way for dealers to make money
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Thanks for checking out the video!
Consider buying a Mercedes-Maybach GLS600, dude!
Cool vehicle for sure. But not something I'm looking to buy
No way, #1 is DEFINITELY the fact that there is NO ANDROID AUTO.
lol I have an iPhone. But that's weird they wouldnt have support for Android Auto. I'm pretty sure some BMW's I've filmed have it
Honestly these things are very annoying. Especially if you daily drive it.
Very true!
I saw your other vid about why you cancelled the âZedâ, if you love the Supra so much why post this âThings I hateâ, sounds contradictory and a âSponsorâ switch?, I understand we all have to work and make a living, but I have to say, in life one must be true to themselves in order to find âjoyâ in life and receive blessings. To spend this much money on a âToyota in disguise â for a few dollars more and patient shopping there are option for better sports cars, Corvette, Porsche Cayman 718, Camaro ZL1,Audi TT RS, Challenger Hellcat, Fiat 124 Abarth. So your logic negates itself if you are shopping for a âtrueâ Japanese make. You stated in the other video you would purchase the NISMO after cancelling the ZED, sounds like maybe you should have been patient and waited? We, the consumer understand the market and the competitiveness between brands, but the days of the â console warsâ is over, letâs just use â buyers preferenceâ in moving forward. The market is big enough to support all, âbashingâ doesnât help, and actually only confuses the buyer. Shopping is one of few âfree willâ decision we have in life, I say support a person in their pursuit to acquire what their heart desires rather than dousing their flames. Again enjoy your Suprađ
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It's not contradictory. No car is perfect and this video is consumer advise for people looking to buy a Supra. In my ownership these points are all the drawbacks. Wouldn't you like to know any drawbacks in a car before you buy it? I sure would, that way I don't have buyers remorse. I don't care the origin of the car. Doesn't mean anything to me. The comparable Cayman is a GTS which costs $95k. So my $60k Supra is a much better buy. I've been in the C8 Corvette. Great car but just not my taste. Same for muscle cars, I just don't like them. 124 is way too slow and small. TTRS is a car we thought about buying, but for $10k less we are buying the RS3 which is more practical and just as fast. So with anything buy the car that works for you. The Supra with manual had the most going for it to fit my taste and even though there are some small downfalls, 95% of the car is perfect for me. I've driven 3 different Nissan Z cars, they just don't compare to the Supra so I didn't want to buy one. When the Nismo is available I might buy one to have for a bit. But I am very happy with the Supra purchase. No regrets.
Yes everyone has free will and will buy the car that works for them, so this video as I already mentioned, is just more consumer information on the Supra so buyers can know every single little detail with what it's like to own this car. And they will then be able to make the best purchase possible to buy a car that fits their needs. Look at the other comments. So many Supra owners agree with these being the biggest drawbacks to the car. So I think my points are well received and most people understand the concept of this video.
I also have a manual car with the volume buttons on the right side of the steering wheel and never did I had a single issue with it. I think youâre crazy.
I never said I had an issue with it being on the right side of the wheel. Just would rather have the scroller wheel for volume and the button to change tracks
Can people stop making these corny â5 things I hateâ videos. So cringe!
So every car is perfect? Donât you think someone looking to buy a Supra would like to know any downfalls with the car before buying? You donât really learn every little detail on a car from a quick test drive. So itâs good info to know when looking to buy one
im happy with my 2023 Type R. đ„č
Those are sweet cars for sure!