5 vs 10 SUPPLY?! - 28 Minute BASETRADE - Starcraft 2: Clem vs Showtime
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2018
- A crazy Protoss vs Terran between Showtime and Clem, the 16 year old Starcraft 2 pro. Who will win the Basetrade?
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*2 marauders die* “OMG THAT WAS 50% OF THEIR ARMY”
I kept screaming at the screen for Clem to use his SCVs to repair his medivacs
No resources
@@bananian
enough resources to repair enough for a couple extra hits
Same. Instead of wasting them on marines
@@bananian Repair costs only 10% of the costs to repair to full, so plenty of resorces.
Bernd Arndt 25%*
i lost it at "PRIVATE RYAN!!!!"
Hey guys the video is pretty long! Sorry for this, I cut out quite a bit of irrelevant parts from the earlygame but late was too tense
It's nice to see you back doing highlights man. Hope you do more of this but with the upcoming GSL groups. The match between Reynor and Classic is classic.
SC2HL so far I have never been disappointed with your video choices, keep up the good work!!:D
This is great, I don't mind it being longer
It felt like it was cut perfectly. Great video, thank you sir!
Ulysses Doroja working on a reynor vid tomorrow! I have some months to catch up on haha
holy crap that was a good video
Give it a like!
@@SC2HL Force me!
I was Clem's age playing Brood War with my friends - so glad the series has spanned a couple decades now, and hope it doesn't stop here
This is the most nail-biting and intense game I ever seen so far and I've seen hundreds. I'm actually loving base trades now.
The amount of respect I have for these players, one of them KNOWS it's physically impossible for him to win, and is fighting an uphill battle to get a draw, the other KNOWS that he cannot lose, but COULD get the win if he micros perfectly. They have less units to fight with than fingers on their hands, and they are still at each other's throats to the very last second.
Literally watched with hands on my head. INSANELY TENSE
That was epic, and I'm viewing this a year later.
Still epic two years later!
@@mattheweppley Still epic *three* years later :)
Why would it be less epic a year later?
try 5 years!
The casting is so good!
Great to have you back!
Love the highlight, intense micro play.
That was so interesting to watch :D
Am clicking replay with my fully sweated hands! What a game!!!
Got me screaming at the end, and I'm at work lol
Sc2hl is back yesssss
Thank you! Sc2 action awesome
Pretty lively for a "dead game" I must say! Thanks to everyone for reviving SC2!
SC2 is back! so is SCIHL !
Great video !
Lifting buildings is fine, terrans need it for balance... but if you have 0 supply and have not enough resources to build anything (or choose not to), then you should be declared loser of the match
Lifting buildings is fine, but it's not fine that you can force out draws with them (when the other 2 races would lose). This is a huge balance issue with sc2 that was never addressed... they should just make a timer on how long a building can fly before it forces a land.
Why is this an issue?
They are different races, they should have diffrent strengths and weaknesses. One of terrans strengths is, being able to draw games like these. Other races have other strengths. So what?
@@safrussalmus9056 Well i would like something like, if terrans building is in air, it counts as unit instead of building. This way, u keep the mobility and most advantages, but get rid of these drawes...
I personaly think, that its just to unfair to be able to do this, on the other hand it doesnt happen often in pro scene. But it would have solve silver league isssues :D
Anyway, there is more pressing matters to adress in SC, so this never was about to change anyway...
@@safrussalmus9056 Forceing out a draw due to a faction's ability shoud never be a thing in any game... Buildings need a fuel mechanic or something, othervise terran is too safe to play, or lets say on ladder draws never happen, but in tournaments, if terrans calls for a draw, they lost, they are allready playing the most garbage turtle faction haveing a passive ability to just being unable to lose a close game is way beyond unhealty.
They had this at one point. If the Terran buildings weren’t on the ground, they weren’t considered bases. So you had to have at least one landed to continue the game.
I think Clem could've won if he brought in the idle SCVs sooner. The crowd's reaction to all the pick offs towards the end was awesome. Imagine being in that arena as it went down.
I love the videos you put out!
that was rlly fun to watch
oh u are back my favorite channel :))
Watch the full original one, it's much better. Search: Clem vs ShoWTimE TvP - Round of 16 - WCS Valencia 2018 - StarCraft II
Jupi! Long live SC2HL!
That was hyped
That was so intense
gotta love that there isnt a rule against 0 supply floating bases....
Greatest game in a while!
Viewing this 2 years later after Clem beat serral 3-1
Showtime deserved to win this
I think that Clem don't deserved it
Yeah, Showtime asks for a draw, which Clem ignores, but later when his whole army is destroyed Clem goes ahead and asks for a draw. Showtime deserved the win.
@@betelgeuse7645 its Moreso that the game was a draw at that point, before that he could still win by killing the archon. When he lost his army units the game was a draw, he didn't ask for a draw he declared a draw. If anything showtime asking for a draw with the smily face was a dick move to get in his head as he knew he had mismicroed
@@antoniobush4560 what the fuck? Showtime could not lose, his worst outcome at that point was a draw, he could have just camped the shield battery/cannon with the archon and force a stalemate, him offering a draw was really nice. Showtime still had a win condition, and actually achieved it.
@@antoniobush4560 I don't see how Showtime asking for a draw was a "dick move", because it literally was a draw, he called it how it is. A marauder and marine is not enough to take down an archon especially with two batteries still in tact. If it was another unit other than an archon, it will definitely favor Clem more, but in this case, neither side had an actual edge over the other.
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So dumb that Terran get a draw mechanic built into their race. Protoss still had attacking units.
Each race has perks that aren't accessible to other races though.
@@JesterJack pulling a draw out of a loss isn't a perk. It doesn't help you win. It's just a load of crap.
It'd be like being at the last inning in baseball with a score of 19 to 20... Then just leaving and saying you didn't lose because the game didn't end.
Best draw I’ve ever seen Xd
CLEM! Two grakatas!!!
GRAKATA
CLEM CLEM GRAKATA!
Wait at 0:24 was there actually an animation that said "Serral vs Has"?
Otherwise great video as always. Personally I am waiting for that crazy cannon rush by Has against showtime
ESFO_TV hahahah yea you are right it was from the previous vid! Im sorry
SC2HL Yeah, but it is amazing that Has cheese is so advanced now that he just wins a game he doesn't even play in. :)
ESFO_TV show me the money bro
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perfect match
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Good video
that was wild haha
Sure Terrans can lift buildings but they cant recall, they dont have the choice whether to do or cancel the basetrade and if terran basetrades faster they cant go back to stop the oponnent
Pretty easy to cancel a base trade. Just pick up the whole base and leave with it.
Recall is there because Protoss armies are slow af and can't reinforce their bases for a counterattack at all if they didn't have it.
im sweating from watching - nice game
If there is one thing I learned reading comments, it's that every single race is o.p.
In the words of the great Day"what the hell happened to him?"9 "Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one."
Cool game👍
That small army fights LUL
I like this one is butt clenching so much XD
Fendy Ming I would even say butt-clemching
와 월드컵 빼고 스포츠 경기보면서 이렇게 피말렸던적은 처음 ㅋㅋㅋ 어디 응원하는것도 아닌데 ㅋㅋㅋ
tasteless and astosis best casters ever
OMG that was so scary
So good game !!!!!!!
LUK AD DE SOUPLYY -ToD
Thanks for the laugh lol
lifting building is op
Shield battery cheese OP
Terran buildings should get the burning effect after 3 minutes lift
Or burn gas as long as lifted.
Seriously
cgimofo HAS JUST GOT TO FINALS WITH IT
Zero supply and still draw LuL
Kevin Kerber more supply and still cant win
김동준 lol.. that shows how broken terran is at forcing draws.
The future is Unity lol? That shows how shitty this protoss played
김동준 How so? He defeated the Terran player in a standard meta game. He obviously played better but all that only for a draw simply because Terran buildings can fly lol.
The future is Unity he ovbiously played better? Is that why he won the series? Oh wait a min lol
Pyrocynical bullying children in a form of an SC2 Match.
Quite a few people seem to think that lifting buildings is a problem, but it really isn't. It's part of what makes each race unique and balanced. If there's anything you should complain about, it's that there was even dead space on the map to float buildings to in the first place. So please quit trying to make it look like a problem, and if you still want to, then complain about dead space on maps instead of lifting buildings.
Aside from that, that was an amazing draw to watch happen. Very intense. Very exciting. Very hilarious to watch all the way through.
Better to have floating buildings run out of fuel than to constrain map design in that way.
No not fuel instead it should have dot applied if lifted too long...
Imagine terrans favoring base trades cuz they can lift buildings...
TBH if show time just have one Phoenix
That's one of the advantages of Terran: that they have tools to work with in favour of base trades. Each race is unique, don't homogenise them.
Yeah I think there needs to be a timer or something that comes up when only buildings that are flying are still alive. It just seems like a very unsporting way to fend off a loss in this manner.
Charlie B its not that hard to build some ships and shoot the buildings from the sky if you are a real winner. And whats about Overlords? Movable supplybuildings who fly all the time.
Good guy Showtime
should make a phoenyx and set it in corner of the map if you see a basetrade is inevitable could cone in handy really here
by the time a base trade is happening you don't have the time or resources to spare to do that.
ShoWtime bullying Clem lol
showtime shoulda made a stargate and phoneix with his remaining 388 mins and gas
oh my GAAAAAD!
top kek
good draw game !
If only army comanders were so pro
진짜 박진감 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Artosis casting makes this 100x better.
is there Artosis in there? I think those are Tasteless' and ToD's voices.
Why did Blizzard not stream it in 1080p?
Tobi k Small indie company :)
RedDragon do you like curry bro
riot games ?
김동준 ??? Did you not get the sarcasm?
Showtime so clutch
I knew there's gonna be a Terran involved in a base trade highlight lol... and the terran had the nerves to push his luck all the way to 0 supply before agreeing to a draw lol... especially when there is a cannon and shield battery left.
To be fair, even though Showtime had an archon at the end of that round, Clem had tucked away one of his buildings in a place where the archon couldn't reach. It was, for all intents and purposes, a draw since neither player could decisively "win".
If both sides mircoed perfectly, Terran would have won unquestionably. So, Terran decided to try to mirco for the win before giving up an drawing. What's wrong with that?
With that last marauder and the medical, I'm not sure the cannon could have survived... Assuming the marauder can't outrange or unpower it, he could maybe pop in to hit it, retreat to heal from the medivac and outdo the shield Regen.
I mean... Wasn't it pretty much a guaranteed draw way earlier because of the cannon? Could a single marine and marauder hit the pylon from outside the cannon range without getting flanked by the archon?
The idea is to kill the archon. After it's dead, it's a shooting gallery for the marauder.
Lifting buldings needs some reworking. Like after a couple minutes of being lifted the building takes DOT because it’s really Fucking stupid how the Terran is always gonna win early game basetrades or do exactly what clem did here “ok his nexus and stargate are down.... lift up my buildings, gg, you can’t win anymore” I know it’s soppused to help make Terran unique but it lets them make a game literally unwinnable
Showtime doesnt deserve to win this game. He should have build at least one real phoenix.
Am I the only one who thinks that this shouldnt be a draw? I Mean Clem has no Units, no way to build anything just a few flying Structures. This should've been a win for Showtime
I watched this game the other day .. and instantly told lowko to cast it .. and I'm not suprised he said it's allready on the list, I'm gonna watch it again then it's so amazin
Clem is our friend ^^
Are you BACK??
I feel like it’s bullshit to allow a flown building to cause a draw cause it totally handicaps any non-Terran in situations like this to have to keep a flying anti-air unit alive while Terran only has to eliminate that to deny the enemy any win potential. Obviously, it’s something that almost never comes up but it’s a shame to see someone clearly win and then not get an actually victory
Its like in a chess game when your enemy has only the King left and you have a quite amount of pieces left. Then you missplay and a stalemate happens.
He could have build a phönix and then hut the ships down but he didn´t so he deserves not to win.
Bernd Arndt that’s true except it’s one class that incidentally has a stalemate option. I remember back in earlier blizz games when there was no “base reveal”. It was a disappointing way to end the game so they made it town hall only to stop reveal. Protoss and Zerg have no draw condition but Terran does. I don’t think that should be a thing personally. It’s certainly not an intended balance function. I’m just saying there should be a timer that starts if all buildings remaining for Terran are flown so that when they have no units, they can lose even if the other player is also beaten down
Switch to terran problem solved
@Charlie B you are forgetting that Protoss has the option to cancel a base trade at any time. Seems pretty op that Protoss can just recall their army to any base, kappa.
Actually clem made a big mistake here. He had all the time in the world so he should have gone to his SCV and repair his medivacs. Might not have won the game, but it definitely could have.
But repairing costs money
@@unkas231I mean after he only had scv left, no income to build with and no building to build with. He did end the game with minerals and kept those minerals for a while.
Clem...Grakata
Was there dead airspace where the archon could not hit?
Eli Korn Yea, Chem had his buildings in an area south on the map that only flying units could get to
Why schow time dont just stay in the base and try to protect well placed building?
Like schield batterry
That's true. I guess he just wanted to be active. I think he's confident Clem can't micro enough to kill the Archon without losing the meds.
kinda unfair even though i am a fan of terran
it's fucking 0 supply
Anyone else find it funny that in the next game showtime went blink stalker disruptor tempest, like no draw this time
Kyle Calindas your face is funny
sorry im new;
why is it a draw?
cant the archon just destroy the rest of his base?
Hey, if you're still wondering - the Archon can't reach the flying buildings - doesn't have the range to hit them...
why was it a draw? i'm confused?
How they even managrd to force those situations. And how the hell do they know how to act when they happrn.
Damn, hes only 16, he gonna be big
I am super excited for the future of Starcraft 2 competitive play between Clem and Reynor. It's great to see young talent in these big tournaments.
funny if he said darw and claimed victory by him leaving or does it not work that way
No. The game has an inbuilt draw system, but it takes several minutes of no action to trigger it. In tournaments they have rules in place to not have to wait those several minutes. In tournaments as soon as both players type "draw" into chat the draw is decided and nothing else matters. So the game screen will say the person that leaves last is the victor, but irl the tournament officials will count it as a draw.
This video needs some Benny Hill music
I feel that if terran has nothing but floating buildings left they should lose. The fact that they can force a draw when they have no units is a bit dumb.
how old is clem?
Terran building can fly forever and call for a draw so they should put something for terran that building can run out of energy and force to land otherwise it seem to be unfair
How is it a draw when ST got the mediavac???
How can he win?
because terran is able to make their buildings immune to ground armies.
base trading with terran in year 2149 hahahahahah
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