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World's Best Table Tennis Robot vs TableTennisDaily's Dan!
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2019
- Hey guys,
Today I met my first ever non-human table tennis player, Forpheus from Omron at the Messe Exhibition Center in Hanover, Germany. This machine is absolutely incredible and has inbuilt features such as artificial intelligence and the ability to learn from the opponent! What I found mind blowing was how well it handled my shots and spinny serves! I used an allround bat with Sriver rubbers on so I was able to generate a lot of spin.
How long until this robot beats a World Champion?
Music Credit to:
Electro Light ft. Kathryn MacLean - The Edge [NCS Release]
• Electro Light ft. Kath...
How incredible is this robot!? 🔥 It's mind blowing how well the robot handles all the variations of spin I could give it! The bat I used was a all round blade with sriver on both sides. How long until this robot beats a World Champion? 🤔
check out this!
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@@x0cx102 Calm down, that's just a commercial with fake shots!
Did you have to use a special bat?
You basically helped the robot to enhance its skills.
@@grimreaper8528
It's _treason!_
Put 2 of them together and see who wins
Kracken it'll probably destroy the universe
This is probably what they'll do to improve the AI. That's how Alpha Zero learnt to play Go, and OpenAI Dota2
Edit1: They actually might not do this since it would take thousands of years to train. (see comments below)
Edit2: AlphaGo
Science wins
@@nuagemanfr alphazero played thousands of games per second to learn this machine wont be able to progress realy fast throw self training also it looks like the algorithm is closer to alphago than alphazero and to be also effective both network needs to combine their data(its not a big problem but can be annoying if they have to transfer huge amount of data per second))
Get it to produce enough energy to power the robots + a bit more and you've got an infinity the energy source
The robot has a pretty good technique. But its footwork could be improved
All jokes aside, I think that will be a HUGE obstacle on the way to making it the best table tennis player. The way I see it, this robot can only defend regular shots. Can't attack and can't catch neither high/short&low/angled balls. Backspin is probably somewhat of a problem too.
@@nvmffs But it's already better than probably 95-99% of all players in the world. I think if they create new Gen every year. As the dude said, another 10-20 years and they got it)
@@zhangeldy4097 It will eventually happen, no doubt, but what I'm trying to say is, it needs legs (or something to that effect) and vertical movement freedom (it seems to allow for a very limited one). This complicates things a lot so i'm not optimistic about 10-20 years being enough.
offy Dännerson it needs to work on its Serves too
@@nvmffs they said in 2020 we'll have flying cars in the future... And guess what, next year is 2020, who knows how fast things are gonna go
Who would love to see pongfinity’s sensei Otto vs the robot
Meeee for sureee
Don't give me there.
Otto will make the robot shame about itself and it will does the self distruct because of too shame.
Robot vs Otto = robot broken xD
Me
But can it return Otto’s around the net shots?
Otto is invencible
Zaiba rspn yeh he is really *invencible*
Hahaha
Noone can
Aaay u watch pongfinity?
Imagine leaving two of them playing against eachother for a couple of years, training eachother to get better and better until they never miss and the ball goes back and forth so fast that it just looks like a blur.
Oh man u made my day 😂😂
unless they realize that the goal is to not lose. They could be tapping it softly back to each other over and over for a stale mate.
@@1ronman1 good point
Pretty sure thats not how it'll work they have nothing to learn from if theyre the same
@@aqua47flawless43 No, this is actually a strategy for training AI that works. They used it to make an AI that plays Dota 2, a very complicated videogame
Meanwhile the creator watching: "Yes... Keep sending your best. My child grows smarter by the day! Soon.. soon..."
LOOOOOOOOOOL
Wuhahahahhaaaaaa
🤣🤣
Makes me think the machine is like Cell from Dragon Ball and is absorbing all the skill out of the best ping pong players to become the ultimate lifeform (a.k.a. best ping player) lmaoo
Looool
CZcams at midnight: wanna watch a guy play ping pong against a robot
Me: yea
Imagine having this robot in every table tennis hall as training machine
prefer to play with people
I have one, but it is a VR headset. Still using a proper paddle (modified). Amazing
I like how this is table tennis and the grunts are like smaller tennis grunts
Av Av 😂
I thought it was ping pong 😐
Kih Cewl you’re technically not wrong. I think it depends where you’re from
@@zootymczoot9134 oh makes sense
Add a grunt sound effect to the robot!
The chinese dude behind the machine is actually controlling the paddle with a xbox controller
G Belanger underrated comment
😂😂😂
I can smell that a woosh in coming
How do you know he's Chinese ?
@@efrainrondon5753 I know him personally
4:09 amazing how the robot can even start serving the ball, the designer was really meticulous about it
Robot:"you are a good match"
Meanwhile Dan:ugh, ugh,ugh
Never believe anything else
Did i search this up? No
Did i stay and watch the whole video? *Yes*
Lmfao this is how I was too. I love your pic by the way
@@johnclark8637 read my bio 😉
@@aarfan1408 howdy
Do I like this comment? No
Did you copy this? *Yes*
Sub to me If you support PewDiePie lol
Friend: who is your toughest opponent
Player: it's complicated
😂 haha
@@TableTennisDaily lmao
Who asks that in the first place?
@@greatcesari you didn't get the joke
@@TableTennisDaily will bayley has inspired me to try table tennis
this is how it begins, next thing you know youre getting chased by a liquid metal killing machine from the future
Chillllll
ULTIMATE STING PONG
suckks u +)))
Der Manager ist zu 100% deutscher, das hört man direkt wenn man ihn reden hört😂😂😂
Er sagt ja anstatt yes, klar ist der deutsch 🤣
Isso
ist ja auch in deutschland
Jaaa hab innerhalb von erste Sekunden bemerkt 😂 und ich bin nicht deutsch
Wahr
Wait till it gets the new update and fix bugs like: " previous version used to lose some games"
Lucian Ivan Sounds like Alpha Zero
and when they update the killer robots of the future, "now it never misses your head!"
The future. Two robots having sex.
- "Good rhythm!"
- "This is getting exciting!"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
o h n o
d i d y o u w e a r a c o n d o m ?
‘You two are a good match’
Oh no! I think I have a virus
People 10years later: Look at them , they are so amazed from this old gigantic machine . Now everyone has one in their homes
The guy at the right side of the table is me when my parents are arguing: 3:33
#TheMemeSheep
With all that "ah ah ah" I turned downed the volume cause my parents wondered what I was watching.
Lmao 😂
Oh my days 😂
"I'm not losing to a robot!" Lmao
All of the "ah ah ah" and the "that is soo good" and the "how's the machine this good" and the fact the machine keeps saying "this is getting exciting" kinda makes it sound like he's using a certain type of doll if you know what I mean.
Xeros No I don’t, please elaborate to those of us with 40 IQ
I like the conversation that was going on
"HEAH"
"HEUUH"
"UGHH"
"Great Rhythm!"
"EEUH"
"UHHF"
"EEERH"
"This is getting exciting!"
Lol
And there was,
_WHAT?!?_
I love how the dude watching next to the machine is swinging his head back and forth looking at the ball 😂
To have one of these at home would be sooooooooo amazing
Just get oculus quest 2 with eleven table tennis and you have a better setup than this robot
Maybe if you can afford the price tag. As OnlyTheBest says, there are software table tennis games that will give us a good training aid with VR which would cost peanuts and no maintenance compared to this mechanical beast of a robot.
@@onlythebest3311 yeah. I have oculus quest 2 with eleven table tennis and its fucking amazing. I love it
This video makes you think about just how incredible the human body and brain can be. We can do all of the calculations for the trajectory and spin of the ball with only two eyes and adapt to it on the spot. Incredible
That is just because our neuronal network is already adapted to our environment. The computer has to learn everything from the ground up.
@@someguy5049 Perhaps, but I think the OP's point was that you look at the actual _structure_ that is needed, cameras all over the place, pieces of metal taking up the whole of one side of the tanble etc...and after all that...this is all it can do, with us not so much. Some people can do this, have a family, have all sorts of relationships, love, hate, enjoy life...and this thing with all of its talent, is cumbersome and can *only* play tanle tennis. Not to belittle the achievement, but it does put what we humans are/can do into context.
Yeah it really does. Sometimes I think about it when I catch a ball someone has thrown from a long distance, or when you drop something and catch it before it hits the ground. The way the brain can judge the trajectory of a ball, or make split second reflex reactions to catch a falling object is incredible.
@@AA-fn9xz Indeed, and we don't even know how most of this is actually happening...which is why most AI reserch is based around 'teaching' and not simply 'creating' a machine which can already do these types of things.
@@carlhartwell7978 JUst wanted to point out, that our brain actually looses against the calculationpower od modern computers. We just have an imense handycap through evolution (e.g we learned hand eye coordination in million of years)
2:03 :: My man at the back taking precautions right before the Corona Virus was even discovered because he knows his country well!
machine: *I'm about to end this whole man's career*
ethan green Ma Lin: not so fast
How to beat the robot: turn it off
How to beat a human: kill it
miapp games ah shoot, u right
How to beat ping pong flip the table
Lol! 😂
Me : Robot. Solve global human hunger issue.
Robot : *Kill all human*. Problem solved.
Me: :-X
Put a Chinese against it. Then you would know if the robot wins
If you input good practice in for the robot, it will beat everyone as they will learn to adapt. You basically have to reinvent new moves that it never sees before to keep winning.
sexntuna wrong
There's always an Asian better, this even applies to AI
Korean*
half of the people didnt get the joke
This machine is amazing, but i can also see it only being useful to train your basic movement- it doesn‘t give you spin back, which is like the most important thing in table tennis. I think it would be even better, if it also could bring the ball back with spin.
i think most of that is just software based though as it seems perfectly capable in moving in the necessary way to apply spin, so its probably what they're working toward
Imagine having two of these playing against each other🤔😅
This is similar to what the DeepMind group did from Alpha Go to Alpha Zero. Tons of self-play
Incredible machine - truly awesome. But dude... you're clearly hitting the ball straight at it rather than trying to win the point.
I was looking for this comment. Thanks
He's wasn't slamming with power either. Robot did not add spin or slam at all. Dan just missed a shot...
i don't think he wants to completely show out on this robot when the people behind it were kind enough to invite him to film him using it
MF DOOM I think that Dan was overcautious about the robot’s blocking too.
Was looking for this comment
Let this machine come to China. Chinese player will teach It how to play.
Agree
Nah it’ll prolly get corona virus too
Xu xin will rally 10000 hrs and not even break a sweat
@@muizuddin5734 ikr that is what I was going to say
@Calm Patience agitated impatience
2000: There will be flying cars in the future.
2020: this
Dan: So how many rounds do you want?
Forpheus: Yes.
*PLOT TWIST*
The guy sitting at the back is controlling the robot with a joystick.
EnNombreDeLaCiencia ! I feel like that’d be even harder to accomplish than making a robot like this 😂
@@anthonyp2382 that's the point 😂😂
Then the robot should have won, so no.
Underrated 😂😂
Literally made me laugh
@@anthonyp2382 r/whoosh
The bot was disqualified due too using performance enhancing software 😂
Probably got speed glue on that racquet too
LOL
greg doucette needs to make a natty or not on this robot
I am a robot. I cannot lift things. I am impressed with this capability in both humans and such powerful robots.
@@siren5742 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Every time I watch one of these robot videos I always get the feeling that I'm watching the beginning of the end for humanity.
Has anyone ever just made two robots battle it out
That’s No robot, That’s Pongfinity’s Otto
Lol no leg movement
Lol
Im from finland and pongfinity too
Hahahaha pongfinity power
Haha no move
The robot can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you lose the match!
Got the theme tune in my head now
Alan Chiu or until the blue screen of death appears
What is the point of your comment?
@@christianwashere6578 I think it's from the movie Terminator :) if I'm not mistaken
Or when the eletricity goes off
Guy who invented that is rly genius. So much options to do with this machine
So cool to see Ludwig taking an interest in these types of stuff
Imagine 10 years from now. This + VR being available at walmart for $500
but...why would you want vr with a real robot...
@@matthewfernandez82 Because the VR replaces that robot with either a real person or character in the video game and is giving you the physical feedback in real life
@@Verlisify so in that case were talking more of like an AR kinda experience. Could definitely be cool and possible.
Lol at the people from 2019...
10 years from now there will be covid29, fires, drought, fascism and war.
Well, you just need 300 for an oculus quest 2 and 20 for the game right now, I have bought it, it's amazing.
it feels like the robot is constantly trashtalking him :D
This is crazy. The robot adapt to player techniques. What a tech
Take a shot every time Dan says the word "ridiculous" lmao
what, if you put 2 of them together
Florens Friedrich Black hole
A very boring match between two noobs.
Positive Mentality he meant robot v robot
@@scintilical9442 I was waiting for that comment 🤣
Then they learn from each other
1:47 robot doesnt use the flat hand, therefore breaking the rules :D
J also sounds like its talking during the rallies
But maybe its left handed
It also serves from above the table.
Wait you're not allowed to tell people they're getting better during the point?
We are robots. We approve of this content. Thank you, human friend!
Table tennis robot: Its so easy.
That one old chinese man in the corner: Hold my walking stick
Chess - Done
Go - Done
Poker - Done
DOTA - Done
Table Tennis - ...2021
@orcodituapse ?
@orcodituapse Not only do chess engines beat players hands down, the AI can now beat top engines.
Not sure if you know the difference between the two or not... but it's rather facinating to see how different computing types play chess.
orcodituapse chess was done in like the 90s
League? I thought I was dota
StarCraft 2
5:40 he sounds so typical for a german😂
Ja oder
korbinian wenig oh yeah
Und wie klingen Sie denn?
@@rabbitpiet7182 sch.. wir kriegen es nicht auf die Backe th's richtig auszusprechen..
Halts maul haha
World: suffers from plagues and hunger
Humanity: Perfect ping pong machine you saaaaaaay, hmmmm?
Even though this looks proper challenging, I don't think I would ever get bored playing with it LOL
Imagine if in the future you have robots competing against each other in the robolympics
Nah our future is just the one where you have men who say the are women competing in women's Olympics for '' equality '', thanks libs
We don't have a future in 10 years Earth will either be invaded by aliens or will be a nuclear wasteland GG ez
W B
Yes it will asshole
its actually cool! Imagine different countries make different types of machines and AI.
There is a World Computer Chess Championship where computers play chess against one another for the title.
Human: Ahh....ahh...
Robot: *I can do this all day*
It’s 3am and I’m suddenly watching and getting recommended a bunch of ping pong videos
Dan: What is the name of this robot?
A: We call it "The Wall"
If Omron collaborated with BostonDynamics this robot could already be lawn tennis world champion lol
Yeah, they should make it self supportive in a human-like figure so it actually has the same limitations as humans, like reach and height. Omron at the moment doesn’t have any legs, nor a body, so it doesn’t actually have to move around the table like a person would to return really wide shots.
Boston Dynamics seems to be the go-to if they were to make it have its own body, they made robots do backflips already!!
@@adamiscoolization Pretty sure it already have extreme limitations regarding speed. Modern robots can intercept bullets pretty much if you put it at max speed so that would be no fun of course. Part of the game is having it move at normal human speeds.
1:31 he tells the robot he's sorry for the edge ball 😂
Haha so instinctive 😂
@@TableTennisDaily Well done lmao
@@zachyepez8279 He only meant that the robot is good, which it of course is.
Jonathan Petterson yeah I know. I was just saying he didn’t say sorry he said so good
@@zachyepez8279 no you don't understand. He tells sorry with his left hand xD
Congratulations one small step towards the robot apocalypse
Sudennly this video appear in my homepage, after i play tennis table with my phone near the table. Even i've never seen tennis table video in youtube before this video
I can't even handle my RoboPong drills! That robot looks phenomenal! It's super exciting for technology in the future of table tennis.
It really is, some of the technology that's coming out right now is crazy!
Dan, you’re the man! But Forpheus... is a MACHINE!
Adam! I’m a big fan!
Adam's sky lob would put the ball out of view of the camera system; it'd have to get a wider angle lens. 🙃
Lol love the vids bro especially this one I just keep watching it over and over again
I could watch this robot take on different professionals for hours
Could Forrest Gump beat the robot is my question
Now that's a good question!
yes. yes he could. he has a plot paddle.
Run Forrest run!
That's what they should have named it...'Forrest' instead of Forpheus
@@FMFvideos Jenny was asshole.
The way I see it, this robot can only defend regular shots. Can't attack and can't catch neither high/short&low/angled balls. Backspin is probably somewhat of a problem too
@W B ummm no it's nothing like saying that
@W B Who knew that a comment section of a table tennis robot could be so hostile?
he never smashes it... not once. nor does he hit a single slice or a high deep ball. spin and power, game over.
Who ever invented this robot is not very bright. Why the fuck would you have robot hover over the table and have reach to play right at the net. If they really wanted to claim it was a robot that can play table tennis than back it the fuck up so it plays where a human would stand.
my dad died bc a robot took out his heart instead of his kidney during surgery... how do you feel now? fucking robots@W B
This robot is simultaneously the kindest and most toxic TT opponent of all time xD. Like it‘s trying to motivate you and gives passive feedback but at the same time it just goes „WOW, good. Great Shot! Nice hit“ every time while it returns every ball almost perfectly
That’s a pretty freaking intimidating opponent, look at its eyes and brains towering over the table, with supports on each side, swinging that pingpong-racket with its D! Wow!
”Imagine the military implementations for this” quote from any bad action movie from the 80s. We are there. Skynet plays pingpong.
Do you mean any bad modern Jurasic Park movie from the 2010? then yes
Thank god that Dan didn't lose it.
Imagine... saying that, it wouldn't surprise me given my track record haha 😂
Humans vs robots... The war already started
It lets human win but the fact is it’s already better and just fooling us
Lose what?
@Positive Mentality It really is im sure its faster and stronger , infinite stamina , was probably modified so it can be fun watching it play vs us
"I think one day this is gonna take over the world....and be better than everyone"
That is some very... specific word selection Dan...
World's best Raybout xD
Awesome content!
Our overlords are already thinking about what hobbies they'll pick up once mankind has been decimated. Crazy!
No this is how we will make you win your freedom (I'm an overlord so I know)
Adeum Deus *your* overlords
Were you holding back? It seemed you could have loop drive/killed it a lot more!
@Gaston Fontenla Maybe he played with some shitty slow racket and it's also harder to play in such an environment full of people.
Yeah, also backspin touch balls - look at the paddle position of the machine. It’s just a really good blocker. It doesn’t set up its own offence. If Dan was playing strategically he would’ve had it easily.
Obviously he was going easy on the robot... The creators sponsored him most likely
I know. If the robot was trying it coulda won easily.
@Ksh nick tt players have these things called tournaments loads of people there too also loads of other tables with matches on at the same time he was playing to anyone with a table tennis brain would have no worries with it
*I wanna see two of these fight against each other*
The start of the machine rebellion.
They’ve already begun to read our every move.
In 2019 we'll have flying cars and a cure for cancer
Japanese engineers: Hold my sake
1:20 notice how the robot calculated the next shot by pulling back to hit it, crazy precision
0:56 watch the head of the guy on the right😂
omg his head is following the ball! that's crazy kiddo?!
damn this guy is so sociable. it probably gonna take me 2 weeks to prepare a conversation with a stranger
After so many years I am still amazed when we play Wii Sport Tennis in a big screen at home, but now, that...
How cool it would be if two robots were up against each other
Yes fucking cool
I would love to see Adam Bobrow vs the robot. I wonder how the robot would react to his spin, especially the snake shots, particularly if he can drop low enough that he hides the spin from the cameras.
The ball bounces high after a snake shot so the robot should have time to get it even with the spin
@@tooney012345678910 yes, but it would be funny to see the robot go one way then have to adjust the other way.
@@missmyf85 yes true 😊
Dude on the left at 2:20 was ahead of his time
Imagine having this in your house. You would become a God. Also the robot would become too good to even play you would have to reset its AI every week
The AI learns by itself, yes, but it learns off of testing and practice, meaning it should roughly get better at the same rate that you are... If that means that the AI becomes impossible to play against, something went wrong in the code, since if you're the only player, it doesn't have the impossible to learn (since if you can do it, it's obviously no longer impossible simce you're capable of doing it)
However I can imagine that on both sides, you and the bot could reach near imposeible levels, however I'm putting emphasis on the "and" in there, since it should be impossible for either side to get an edge when ONLY practicing together
@@youknowihadtodoittoem3579 But if you continues to play the same robot, it would know everything about your style and movements so it would be able to predict everything you would do in a said match, thus you would never really win a match. It would be like playing a perfect clone of yourself that thinks the same as you and your skill level would plateau at some point. This is why resetting the robot would allow you to keep getting better and the threshold of evenness would become higher and higher as you keep resetting it
@@cherryspriteyt1432 fair enough, but wouldn't you, trying to improve, try diffrent ways to approach it? Eventually meneing diffrent moves together to catch it off gaurd
Like, a reset would have its up sides and downsides, youd have an easier opponent, yet.. Exactly so, your opponent is way easier so you have to re-adjust to that, the opponent would as to say go from high tier to mid tier.... Irl how often do you see a mid tier win from a high tier (idk if i can speak since i dont watch tabletennis), it's practically just draining a fair chubk of time for the AI to reach just that few sweet points where you would actually improve at a steady pace... And I know they say "slow but steady" but yer gonna need to weigh it out... To put it in the same perspective as before, if youre the mid tier, how often do you learn something new, or feel like youve become better just from those few minutes against a high tier?
I doubt that would happen. There is a massive flaw in its design that is motion range.
What's the story with the bat they gave you? Is it a sandpaper or normal? Is it coordinated with the robot to allow it to read your spin? Also, were there any restrictions on where on the table you could play?
Hey :) So the bat I used was an allround blade with sriver rubbers on. I could produce a lot of spin with it tbf. The sensors on the bat are for the analysis after that you can see on the screen. Which means the robot can supply coaching feedback to you about your technique. The cameras pick up the ball spin and spin.
The robot must serve too
Btw, I just realized that Dan’s paddle has motion trackers on it, or some type of reflectors. So technically the robot isn’t advanced enough yet to determine the motion of a player based on memory alone yet.
robot: this isn't even my final form
The only person that even stands a chance against the 10th generation...
Forrest Gump
6th gen b like...
**Robot Does Edges in all Hits**
it will never apologize for the edge ball, instead shouts, cho le cho louder than harimoto and aims for a netball for annoying variation!
I actually think they made its serves worse on purpose, in order to make it less cheesy.
The guy explaining at the end: “And.. we’ve put an artificial intelligence inside it”
30 years later: The ping-pong racket holding machines have invaded the world...
Robot on the street
*Aaaaaah alien attack*
Robot *Wanna play table tennis?*
OFCOURSE!!!
People from the nineties had it totally wrong, talking about flying cars. We have Ping Pong Robots.
Jackedmofo
We do have flying cars they’re just a regulatory mess and its tough to consider landing with our current civil engineering constraints.. and could you imagine some idea drunk driving and running out of gas thousands of feet in the air 🤣
we actually have flying cars (helicopters)
I would love to have one of these machines at home. You could improve so fast
Shadowboost Not necessarily. It would just learn your way and how to beat that. When you would play against other humans, they probably play a different style.
testi no
Shadowboost yes!
But can it open a beer? Jokes aside - impressive work!!
1:22 lol that dropshot backspin is so OP lol