Cost To 1JZ Swap A Supra MKIII | How Much Does It Cost To Build A 1JZ Supra MK3
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- For some reason the MK3 Supra and the 1JZ are becoming a little more popular, so in this video Freddy shows you how much it will cost to do a basic 1JZ swap in a MK3 Supra, as well as how much he has invested into his entire project.
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I installed a 1jz in my 89 MK3 11 years ago and it's still my daily driver. That's how you get your money’s worth! 1k a year is a great price for an awesome sports car with no car payment and the cheapest insurance known to man. Been kicking everyone’s butt not to mention contending with crotch rockets. 60-120+ 5th gear pulls are just amazing. EVERY time I get out of my car I take 10 paces and catch myself looking back to admire how awesome it is. Freddy, keep this car forever or you will regret it.
Correct and alot of people get depressed about a silly 10000 or 6000 they spend on a car like this but these cars last and can be passed onto generation to generation. That is why they are worth their weight in gold. If you think about that then yeah its the best bang for your buck your ever going to get. Compare that to paying 55000 thousand for a nice new vehicle today. I mean you will have to pay that off in 6 to 7 years and hope it last another 8 years if you got an ACURA or LEXUS but if you did not your F. that 50000 thousand goes down the drain. Never to be regained again. Then you say dude 12000 is nothing.
What insurance lmao
Time saver 15:36 $7000 for the basic swap.............other parts including swap $12,415
car $500 ..........total $12,915
I spent 5k on a true jza70 swap and I had a 91 which made everything pretty much a bolt in. Then I decided to do the 1.5 build before it even went in, that was another 2k in machine work parts etc. Then I decided to go single before I completed the swap. That was another 7K after custome ic pipes, went standalone, got injectors and clutch and custom exhaust. In short I spent a lot lol.
Damn I'm 15k in on my 2JZ swap and it still needs an ecu 😂😂😂
$12,915? He must be getting a bad deal on stuff. engine it self shouldn't be above $5000.
I was hoping that if i Owned a MK3 Supra I would be able to swap it to 1JZ cheaply
@@KaedeAnimation check out the Ford barra, comparable to the 2jz and they’re dirt cheap
I started laughing then cried😭😭when you said the r154 was 1,000$, lol. Man, I wish I would have built my Supra years ago. They have quadrupled in price.
The cameraman just kinda doing his own thing made this video for me, it was a distraction from the pain that is Mk3 Supras and expenses.
hahaha
@@PoorManMods
These supras....we should find a way to build these. Like a kit car
@@PoorManMods
You need , either to train this camera man. Or to get a better camera man lol
He's pointing the camera at your friends crotch
@@PoorManMods
5.39. Camera man is playing games lol
"1JZ shipped to my house for $1,300"
Jesus christ they are $5,000+ now. I'll be stuck on my 7MGE forever lol.
Not a damn thing wrong with a properly built 7m things are torque monsters
Is it worth upgrading a 7mge?
@@greg8610 It's POSSIBLE to NA-T, but not advisable. It's a ton of work and ultimately the motor isn't designed for it.
@@greg8610 yes to a certain point higher compression builds with cams bigger throttlebodies injectors etc work great but you'll only end up around 300-350hp
@@in-rust-we-trust2831hella helpful bro
7mgte, shim the oil pump ( or replace), metal head gasket, arp studs, torque to 75lbft for the head instead of 56. BOOM 500 hp capable engine on stock bottom if its in good condition
this guys knows whats up. I was thinking about that the whole time.
I have a 7mgte with a metal head gasket, ARP head studs, but they were torqued to 92lbft
And that sexy 7M sound
Anything else I should do to make it reliable?
@@deathmetalcat4021 that's honestly all you really have to do aside from maybe so cooling stuff I believe
-that ending answered epic! ahahahahaha #thingMK3ownersay
haha so true
I've spent more on my mk3 supra. I stopped adding it after 10,000 it gets depressing after a while.
yuuuup
Yeah you can't let it get you down just gotta keep on pushing until it's complete. I'm sure you will be happy with the finished product.
I stopped recording my expenses after 2k. I bought a wack 87 with a popped 7M thinking it'd be cheap to get going again (it wasn't) and really began to depress me how much I was spending to refurbish a 30 year old turd. It really shouldn't have been that expensive but the previous owners did some really weird things.
Thats what happened to my 1988 Galant VR4 my good friend owned it and started polishing the turd by forging the engine and doing the drive line, now to replace everything else
Your camera man sucks d*ck ruined your video
That last answer was really the conclusion of my Z project! :D I once had an excel sheet with all my costs and expenses....after 4 years, I deleted it...
hahahaha
Have always loved the mk3 ever since I had 1 slide along side me on I80/I94 in my chevelle at 75mph it set two rubber stripes down the HWY and left me in the dust!
hellls yeahh
@@PoorManMods
Mk3 is badass.
Had an 87 and a 91 many yrs ago. Loved both of them. They were incredible drifting cars but both blew head gaskets - common problem with the inline 6. Wanted to find one with the swap but opted instead to go with a 1998 C5 Corvette and glad I did as the C5's are extremely well made cars (I had a C4 that was THE WORST car I ever owned). Even bone stock, a Mark 3 can be quirky and if you go with a swap, you really should do it yourself. That way you know it inside and out and can ensure it's done right, especially when it comes to wiring. You gotta be that passionate about it because it's a TON of work. If you're not in to tinkering, get a C5 Corvette - you won't be disappointed.
Only reason they blew head gaskets was because the 7mgte had turbos put on last minute during production and the heads werent torqued to spec
Your buddy is coming out right on your channel brah.
loooool
Saw you at bucees technically. Haven’t touched any of my cars in awhile because of lack of motivation. I built an engine for my golf, hit something in the road and toasted the engine on day 2 of the being back together. I’m watching this on my tv while looking up Supra parts and where prices are to get going on it again rn lol. Y’all seem like really cool dudes and the car is sick
Thank you so much! It can certainly be hard to stay motivated sometimes, especially with the cost of parts, that's why we try to do stuff on the cheap whenever we can. Sorry to hear about your Golfs engine 😔 hopefully you can make some progress with your supra 😁
That was supposed to say technically yesterday 😂
@@connarlocklear4676 all good 🤣🤣🤙
From what I have read on forums is that w58 trans can hold up to 450hp and its most likely to give up on third gear pulls
And if you put that kind of money into a 7M, then you have a badass engine.
i didnt put much "into the engine" almost 1/3 of my total expense was the R154 swap, and the fuel system which im not really utilizing at the moment only being on 10psi
I have to ask. Why is the power steering pump resovair totally crooked? shouldnt it be level? For the dipstick and whatnot.
No the 7M is really a piece of shit engine, better going with the 1JZ, or 2JZ
Oveida Sinclair 7m’s are actually not half bad. They just get a bad rap because the factory never torqued them to the proper torque so they pop head gaskets if you don’t fix that. If you fix that, the motors are actually really stout and can make just as good horsepower as a 1/2j. But nobody would know bc everyone is in love with the jz series
Strat. Attack13
I was actually considering getting a mk3 supra.
I was thinking about a 1jz swap.
Can you tell me a little bit about the 7m?
What kind of power can you make from it with everything torqued correctly.
(The 7m is an iron block is it not?)
Thanks for your time.
$100-200 and the occasional $800-1500 splurge adds up really quick. I'd hate to add up all my parts and I only have a bpu 7m
yup it really does! even the stupid little $10 hardware and auto part store runs add up over the years!
Now that he showed the supra at around 6. Minutes, he's a good camera man.
Haha the end was fucking classic 🤣🤣🤣 lmfao
hahaha
lol dat ending doe!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahahah
Thanks for saving me The 12 Grand and headache I'll just keep the 7m... Lol
Hahahaa
@Dc... you sound like me, I guess I need to just torque down the head bolts to 72 lbs. and call it good.
Dude. My man....its great bro.
Now look, does the car run ?
Does it drive.
Can you go driving in it.
Love the work. Keep up your spirits. Don't spend so much. K see you
Holy shit! You're the guy off the truck videos I've been watching! I'm happy you have your own page! Following RN.
Haha yup thats me! thanks!
Dad did a 1JZ swap out, his throttle cable came from a 90's Corrola, he used a W58 tranny (car was a NA 7mge 5 speed), an SC300 Lexus dog bone, he didn't have to relocate his battery, he also used a single turbo VVTi 1JZ. Keep the Supra driveshaft, his swap out cost him around $5200.00, he keep the engine stock, 295 horse power was more than enough power for him.
Dad made the car look as close to show room condition as he possibly could, no cracks on the dash and near perfect cloth seats. You will never get $13k of enjoyment out of the car and above all else, never look at that car as an investment. I drive the other Supra that he restored, it has a JDM 7mgte, Targa Top, that engine was tore down, head rebuilt, the block decked, multi layer metal head gasket with ARP head studs. It has a 3 inch down pipe and I think next year I'm going to get a header and a larger/faster spool up turbo, oh it has NO cracks on the dash, NO rust on the car and near perfect interior too.
I know how you feel, Im down somewhere between 1500-2000 and I have barely gotten to drive it yet :'( but thats what I get for trying to build the 7M before swapping in the 1j. From my point of view you did it the right way and opted for 1j from the beginning. Keep up the good vids man, they have really helped me during my build :)
thank you very much! good luck with your build
Thanks! :D Also realised I missed a couple of zeroes on the number I put above. Meant to write between 15 000 - 20 000 roughly converted to dollars.
thanks for your input pmm I learned allot about mods I have a hardtop mk3 and there weren't that many of Supra made that's what makes them so expensive to find parts for mk3
Glad we could help! :D
I am about to put a 1JZ in my Supra, I'm going to keep it stock duel turbo and I am going to hook it up to cars stock W58 transmission, plus living in Florida I plan on gutting the cat converter (no emissions inspection in this state). I have a beautiful conditioned 89 Supra with a near perfect interior, no cracks on the dash either. Oh dad went to the salvage yard about 5 years ago a pick up a 3 piece wig, the car looks beautiful, the only bad thing is the 7MGE engine is shot which is why I'm going to a 1JZ conversion. I'm keeping the W58 transmission because I don't plan on racing the car and it should hold up to the added 75 horse power, heck they were putting the W58's in the Mk IV's with the naturally aspired 2JZG engines in the mid 90's.
Oveida Sinclair did you ever get all this done
I think I am just going to save myself a lot of time and money and keep my R154 Supra Turbo 7M and just put money into the restoration to make it as reliable as possible. My 7M I got imported with 66k km on it so it should be good. I remember seeing the factory Toyota honing on the cylinder walls when I put a MLS head gasket and ARP’s. I have a custom $800 clutch setup from Southbend Clutch back in my hometown. I have all the Apexi controllers and aftermarket inter cooler and pipes and a huge borg Warner turbo off a diesel truck back in the day but she still screams and boost comes on around 3200rpm so not to bad lag. Currently high boost I have it at 28psi and have no idea the power numbers but I do know I am reaching my limits with the Lexus AFM and 660cc RC injectors mod. Cool video I’d wish you made more on the car being the mk3 Supras are making their come back.
Hey! THANK YOU for doing this rundown. I just burned out my 7m-ge in my 1988 that was in immaculate condition and i need to figure out a way to get it running in a way i can upgrade it over time.
Thinking of getting the 1jz-gte and just putting it in for now with minimal changes just to get it to run... with the w58 and LSD. Im hoping that the stock non turbo parts can handle easy driving til i can upgrade the rest. No idea whats NECESSARY but im hoping to at least get it running.
IM ALSO FROM PA!
(Pittsburgh)
Heck yeah you're welcome! Thanks!
Just put in a 7MGTE redo headgaskit, bigger turbo, upgraded fuel system. I've seen solid power and reliability made and it's cheaper than a 1j
I will agree to disagree, Ill choose a JZ or a 7M any day brotha
I'm in the process of building my 7m. Just did my headgasketm. Went cometic with arp head studs.
Nate R have an ig? I have a 7m and plan to going the same route
Edwin Vasquez yeah its @naterodriguez1025 I wont be posting much on the car until the spring time
It seems to add up quick. Just bought a $1300 LS1 for my 88' The T56 manual should cost just as much.
I can't wait to see you turn up the boost on that thing.
Money can't buy happiness, might as well invest in frustration
The plate in front of the engine bay where did you get it??? The shiny plate where the headlight knobs are
Thanks for this, it pushes me to get that supra mk3 i want
get it!
For this price you could import a JDM Mk. III. The car itself in the JDM market is going for between $1000 and $5000. FOB / FOC is around $1200. Hiring a licensed Customs Broker is a couple hundred and fees are probably a couple hundred more. That's a solid $5000 - $8000 for a RHD 1JZGTE Mk. III. You get a factory install AND the prestige / cool factor of a true JDM Legend. Keep in mind many times these cars have already been modded as well, typically with extremely rare Momo or Motegi steering wheels, Ricaro seats, and any number of valuable Japan only rims, such as RS Watanabe's, Fukokas, or rare Volk wheels. Many times they'll be fairly built as well.
All in all it's a better deal to import a Mk. III from Japan. You'll most likely find that the mods on them are worth more in parts than the car and process.
Its easier to spend that much money ovet many years building a car than dropping it all at once
@@PoorManMods True, but if you save up and go for this route you'll have a RHD version. Also the amount of money you'd spend stateside for those kinds of parts usually already on these cars is VASTLY more than what you see here. Keep in mind that a good set of true JDM rims can be north of 4K a set. Actual older Ricaros can range from a couple hundred to a couple thousand, and an old school JDM racing wheel can be a couple hundred, if not up to north of a thousand. Let's not even talk about suspension or engine mods. Availability is also a thing. Some of these JDM cars will have golden era aero kits (like Top Secret, Advan, and others) that you just can't get in the western hemisphere or outside of Japan period. All the little things are what add up to having a much better value than building up a USDM car for a similar price. JDM cars are also worth vastly more in the US than in Japan, regardless of the car. The mere fact thst such a thing exists through the effort needed to import boosts the value exponentially. That's why importers exist in the first place. If it wasn't massively profitable they wouldn't do it other than for personal use.
Subbed because of this video.
Thanks for all the info. Definitely helped with a guy like me figuring out whether to jump on a MKiii with a 7m (and hopes and dreams of a 1J).
Cheers guys.
Thank you! Get a 1j!
im at about 13k for my 1jzgte swapped is200 and it doesn't even run yet
Could you post a parts list I'm trying to do this build but I'm not 100% sure what exactly I need it would help me out and others thanks!
I'm not sure when exactly, but I will be making 1JZ swap bible in the near future.
Poor Man Mods awesome! Thanks for the quick response!!
That ended and I laughed fuckn hard! Great vid dude!
hahaha thank you!
Did you change head gasket or it is as is? no ARP bolts as well?
100% stock engine except for stage 2 cams
I'm going 2JZ swap and I think the 6spd manual 350z trans the CB009 I think? Might be cheaper then going R154.
Thanks for the video. Really helpful.
All said and done the CB009 isnt cheaper than the R154, its better but a bit more expensive
I'll give you $1,500 for it
$150 and we have a dael
Look. Does the car run ?
Does it drive ?
I have spent around $100k on my mk3, as it sits around $80k on it right now!
LOL on that $12.900 total tab of yours!
Ah at 2 55 he went to sleep lol camera was going to the ceiling.
By the way is that a garage or what is it. Detailed roof interior. Ceiling
Hey guys don’t mean to be a bother, I’ve got a 1989 mk3 Supra with the 7mge, I bought a 1jz with auto transmission (because thats what the car came with was an automatic) and a new wiring harness. Anything you guys might suggest to get also before I drop it in?
nice build. what is the (safe) hottest running temp of the 2jz?
Thanks! I guess around 190-215F
4 32 - custom bumper..lol looks like piping from the plumber
I must say i am a bot surprised at the cost, i thought it would be less considering japanese a70 supra used 1jz from 1990
Yo nice youtube channel I'm really digging it.
Thanks!
Why is the cameraman checking out that guy!?
Why not?
🤣 Fair enough man. Great video. Thumbs up👍
What's your opinion on the fitment of the godspeed sway bar?
it fit great for me
Hey, having trouble finding an affordable R154. 1K on far Craigslist locations. 2K on ebay. any ideas? I guess I could drive 12 hrs
They are not cheap at all and get more expensive everyday and harder to find I'd buy the first one you can afford. Look on Facebook and junk yards
cheaper than a college education and you've probably learnt more!!
+Martin Garner that is the truest thing I've heard all day. My degree cost 60k and I learned nothing
But like my dad told me, you do not want to be bent over a engine compartment in your 50's, go to college and play with cars on the side.
Will the stock auto trans work for this or a 2jzge?
Yes
I have this car and I need help getting parts to repair it so if you can help I am it
what gauge brands are you running ? did you get them second hand or new ?
Autometer for boost, AEM for wideband and ProSport for EGT
F*cking love this vid; I had a Golf Mk2 1.8t-swapped and spent £200 on a downpipe alone, £400 on a bespoke exhaust and countless £££ on stupid shit for it. Yeah it was expensive, it was my baby; I had to get rid of her 😢😢😢
I know this is a few years out but I was wondering if the 1jz swap is reliable. After swap break in and tune how reliable is it?
The engine is very reliable but the car is not lol
Poor Man Mods Yea, heavily modified tends not to be. My 90 targa turbo had some head gasket issues. Beyond that, it was pretty solid. I'm interested in this swap. Thanks for the vid.
a buddy of mine is trying to sell me a CLEAN mk3 with a 1jzgte+r154 in it for $5k. The body is mint(besides a scratch from it getting keyed), what should I do? Run or take it?
Take it!
Poor Man Mods
Agreed
greatest filming ever lol
hahaha
R154 for $1k? That can't be true! It's just a story to scare the children right?! Can hardly find them for less than $2k in CA. And that's 150k+ miles.
its was $1000 with NOTHING else, no bell housing, no slave cylinder, not clutch etc.
Man I remember r154 selling for 200-300 dollars. Lol
John Krstyen I bought a turbo 1990 with a 60k 7m new engine for 3200 in California. Only got it cause it had the r154. The 7m is sitting in my garage I'm waiting for the right 1jz
You need to check with the JDM importers in Canada and Texas
Oveida Sinclair
Hmm, good idea.
hopefully you've gotten a better cameraman by now
Nope
it's things like this that remind me I won't have my 2j swap done till.... whennever lol. kinda luckily I'm going na-t 2j i got for free "running motor from friend's sc who went vvti 2j" with a butchered harness and missing pieces for days. time and the harness is why I haven't progressed and laziness... can't forget laziness.
it takes so much time and money :(
Poor Man Mods you're telling me. I've been helping that same friend that gave me the 2jzge with his sc for the past 7 years i don't even want to think how much he's into it. 2jzgte vvti on a big single borg, stand alone, wise fab front end suspension, truck loads more to list and still doesn't run.
I'm looking into getting a Supra A70 shell, it's $800.
Get ready for a world of hurt 😭
Why don't u sell it and get something that u can actually take to drift events
+suspicious Package because if I sold it I'd get $7
+Tony Martinez sold
Epic ending
ahahaha
I have a question and it may be already answered but i have an a70 supra n/a auto. And the engine is basically kaput so what i wondering is i am getting a 1jz-ge auto. Would this work fpr a daily without heavy mods or not?
I would highly recommend not doing a 1jz if you want to daily drive it.
@@PoorManMods what engine would you recommend?
@@jackkincaid1260 you should probably just fix the one you have for a daily. Unless it's something major, fixing it would be cheaper than a swap
Good i wish prices where the same as they where back then a 1jz cost 3500 cheapest ive seen and q r154 cost 2400 cheapest ive seen 🙃
Excited for the street rod show this weekend?
+Spencer Thompson where?
Poor Man Mods York pa? thought you lived around me lol
+Spencer Thompson I live in York County but I'm not really active in the York car scene. Where exactly is the show. Is it at the fair grounds?
Poor Man Mods yes saturday and sunday during the day it's at the fairgrounds, but in the evening and night time everyone cruises on route 30 in york, like near the Sheetz, Friendlys, and the tractor supply!
Where did you find pin out for the 1jz to mk3 body. Im running into a problem where i did the harness for my sc300 and now that some woman decided to run into that car i bought a mk3 supra and i need to get the body harness working for the mk3. Its driving me insane =/ Also are you running factory rear subframe bushings still? Thanks in advance
All of the wiring information I used was on supramania.com And i still have 100% factory subframe bushings, I did all of the control arm bushings though
Thanks, ill have to look there some more. Its been Driving me insane. I ordered a few hours ago some Polly sub frame bushings from poland on ebay. So ill see how those come out. Thanks for the reply. Really appreciate it.
im still waiting for an admin to accept my account creation on that forum =/
4.32 - lol thats quite a supra you got there. Wtf is that a custom bumper ?
Why would you not just buy an imported one with a 1j already in it? About 12k with virtually no miles
Whats easier, to spent $12k over the span of 5 years, or to spend $12k all at once?
Poor Man Mods yeah, true
Good luck finding one
sack the camera man lol
+Vintage Tech Repairs lolol
I've been gone for awhile what happened to Dan did he move?
Welcome back brother! He just isnt a part of the show anymore.
that ending question is money lol
+The 86 Life hahaha
Long live the cursed car!
lolol
Hey , how can I get in contact with you?
800cc injectors? I thought you were running 650's?
+Mic Raw we went even bigger and did a fuel rail and adjustable regulator as well
How mmuch hp?
+Queso 509 the car makes 400ish now
I probably put 10k in my r32 gts-t with an rb20det by now and it's not going to make 1jz power, don't feel too bad lol. fml
+Eternity hahaha
sounds to me like you have gotten 13k of experience in 1j breakdowns and servicing hahah .. also alot of what to do and what not to do on these beasts ... its the fun of building and driving (when its running) that counts
haha $13k worth of education and experience i guess
1000 for a r154? Fuck8ng where at cause everyone i see is 2500 for used 3k for brand new 😭
Should’ve got a w58, it’s cheaper
I should start selling my organs to ever even start with GIV base SR20VE swap. Oh well, don't need two eyes, lungs, or kidneys :D
fuck it!
*Stares in despair*
No
7:06
Lmao, chill vid
Haha thanks
Lol great video
Well...having no fabrication skills...after seeing your video...i guess im gonna go with cars.com lolol
for all that, might as well have got the 2jz
Then its be even more money
@@PoorManMods true, but 2 is better than 1 😂 but I get what your point.
5:26 hahahahah
A lot I bet :D
+Eitvydas too much
Just import one, itll save you the money, time, hassle, possible parts breaking, and you'll be cooler cuz you're a mailman
Not many people can drop that amount of money at one time
@@PoorManMods you make a very good point sir
FML my mk3 will never get to its potential! It’s a money Pitt 😢
This was easily some of the best and worst camera work to date.
Hey poormanmods as an owner of a mk3 supra and me being in the market for one for daily driver. How un reliable is the 7mge and is it worth to build or turbo the 7m rather than swap. Thanks for the reply.
ive never owned a 7m so i cant speak from experience, i know a few people daily drive them but the headgaskets are known to blow frequently. I would make more sense and would probably easier and cheaper to get a turbo car instead of building a non turbo car.
Poor Man Mods looking at a built bottom end turbo ka24 s14 over na 7m what do you think better for daily
lol neither
No, don't turbo a 7mge, it doesn't have oil squirters inside the block, those keep positive oil on the lower pistons which is needed when running the hotter turbo engine. My dad and I both have MK III Supra's, dad has a 7mgte and I have the 7mge, personally I don't like the 7m engine at all, dad had to completely rebuild his 7mgte and he wishes he put a 2JZ in it instead. I'm going to do a swap out with a 1JZ in the next month, or two.
Hahahahaha you killed me man XD No.... :D
500 only for the car?? Dude youre killing me here in spain the worst unit is at least 2000 euros (2200 bucks more or less)
It was sitting outside for 12 years with no engine or transmission and the interior was trash.
I'd just start uncontrollably vomiting if i spent that much money on something i couldn't enjoy that much.
lmfao!
I've got 20k into my jetta your telling me
fuuuuck
As you was realising, that put 13.000 bugs in a 500 bugs toyota. I was laughing so much! That is fucking tuning!And you never ever get the money back. It's everey time the same. :-(
hahaha yuuuup
If you want to drive a Supra an additional 10K on top of what you paid for the car is not uncommon at all, these cars are old, rare and vary attractive. You can do this or go out and buy a 2000 something Nissan Z for 25k -30k