FV4003 Centurion AVRE GameBreaking ll Wot Console - World of Tanks Console Modern Armour
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2023
- World of Tanks Console Gameplay of the FV4003 Centurion AVRE and in this video we will talk about the AVREs, in my opinion, gamebreaking nature. This tank really needs some changes and it should be nerfed ( with the option of refunds like the Dillo) to maki it less toxic in wot console and world of tanks console modern armour
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It’s troubling that WG ever thought this tank was OK. It’s also troubling that they think the solution is to solve it with premium match making.
In real life those massive dustbin chuckers were incredibly short ranged bunker busters which could be used in a pinch against enemy tanks.
I'd limit the range of the gun in the same way as the pew pew pew shells/bullets simply disappear at range at low tiers. Along with this I would drastically increase the shell arc along with lowering the shell velocity. Thinking even more extreme than the derp gun on the Cromwell. Possibly also increase the terrain resistance to fall in line with the increased weight of the massive blade on the front. Lower the turret traverse to account for the big old drainpipe sticking out of it.
The gun would still be devastating up close and personal but would be effectively useless at range. The inrease in terrain resistance along with the slow turret traverse would make it more of flankable target for fast mediums and lights.
I had 2 Cent 165 AVREs in my troop when I was serving in Germany in the 1980s. Dustbin throwers is exactly what we called them. On the range, you could see the shell slowly arcing through the air. Not very accurate, & designed of course to take out structures, not tanks. Slow rate of fire as well. Very popular with the crews though, because they were relatively clean, & the engine deck was flat & warm to sleep on.
Literally insane to me how this tank has almost no flaws. I thought there would be something to bring it down but it has medium tank mobility and gun handling, heavy tank armor, and tank destroyer damage. Literally the highest DPM tank cannot compet against the avre. Literally it has premium 240 pen with 1100 alpha and a reload around 15 seconds with perks
Played WOT console for 9 years but after the release of the AVRE that’s me done… can’t enjoy any teirs from 8-10.
Anything to sell there season pass
broke the game...😢😢
Same here
Give it gun handling like the tier 5 amx light tank. I quit playing after this. If the Taran and this are the direction this game is going, I'm done.
Don’t you remember when the Mtls was obliterating everything with its machine gun
I dont understand where to pen it, I try to aim for the red spots in the turret and almost always bounce except for when im lucky and the lower plate under the shield seems to never be a pen aswell even if it peaks over a hill. I sometimes randomly pen it with standard ebr shell (190 pen) from the front and I have no idea how.
Me and my friend were in a T95 and OBJ704 and me and him alone fought against 6 of AVREs and we won. We both loved through the whole game. And his 704 was stock too
Then u where fight against human bots 😅
Ok ok ok you are quickybaby... Ok the tanks is OP
@@KingWolfstein i dont play PC anymore. They botched PC. But im going back soon
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A year later and this tank is still in the game unchanged. Says a lot about the devs of this game. Really says everything you need to know
Thank you for this video, it is very well thought out, especially the comment about limiting the matchmaking as a solution. There is no joy in playing Tier 8 games anymore for fear of being one-shot by any one of the 3-4 AVRE's on the other team. I love your suggestions, th eonly one i would add would be to make the turret a little more penable as well.
I am totally against the sale of tier 10 tanks, it compromises the development of the novice player and hinders the team considerably. I agree with your suggestions, but unfortunately all the improvements that the player community suggest are ignored by WG. Honestly, I don't think we'll see any changes.
He was wrong to even offer suggestions on how to nerf this or any other premium tank in the game that people have spent real money to acquire AS IS.
Eclipse bitched about the same thing in one of his videos on this same tank. WOT PC CCs understand that Wargaming won't nerf a premium tank statistically once it has been sold. They used to, but not anymore, thankfully. But these console CCs don't know this. Or, maybe they do, but they just want to generate more comments in their comments section. Idiotic though those comments may be, they are good for their channels.
have you noticed that these premium tier tens are there for the wallet warriors, and the CC's who promote them who of course don't pay for them. Joe Bloggs finally gets a chance to get one later, and its not available !! LOCKED OUT. 8 years now and now near the end of my patience.
If they made the gun very very derpy (like kv2 values) and the hull armour weak, it might be save a little of the tier 10 gameplay.
(I made the comment before listening to the end of your video... so, yeah, I totally agree)
Keep the 240 pen round as premium and just make the standard round 85 pen like the type 5 heavy. I think that would be a good step in the right direction.
recently started playing WOT after Merc Tanks came into the game and the first thing I noticed is this thing is bonkers OP. none of my older tanks can keep up
Someone played the Cent 7/1 and then played Warthunder, saw the AVRE on it and thought to HQ "Dude i got a great idea! Why not put the 165mm from the AVRE From Warthunder onto the Cent 7/1! That would be a great idea and it would get the same armor and better everything because reasons! and so came the FV4003 Cent AVRE at tier 10 which broke tier 10 MM better than any tank before it. Because WG wants to make a quick cash grab before they fold and go to the moon base with Serb.
Decrease accuracy, if it has a better reload than both deathstars then reduce it as well maybe even decrease the turret rotation, reduce the spaced armor thickness to maybe 10mm or idk what it is also decreasing is the general idea by how much as long as accuracy is worse than death star that’s good and the damage of both rounds decreased with the premium doing 950
While I mostly don't have a problem fighting against this tank while in tier 10s, I can see some valid criticism. I personally think that the armor should stay the same but turn down the handing (base accuracy and aim time) and maybe switch around the ammo a bit. It's handling outside of those two stats are pretty bad as is. If the armor is made cosmetic then I would say that it should just flat out be removed. I am not a fan of cosmetic only part of the armor limiting its gun depression.
Standard HESH
Alpha: 1400 -> 1200
Penetration: 180 -> 163mm
Premium HESH
Ammo type: HESH -> HEAT
Alpha: 1100 -> 900
Accuracy: .42 -> .48
Aim Time: 2.5s -> 3s
Not played for months. Looks like I should start again and bring out some scumbag arty. With a bit of focus fire.
I got two shotted in two different matches by the ARV and I was in my JgPzE100. It’s very depressing to be in a “1946” Ww2 tank going up against a mid-cold war tank.
GG, it is truly lamentable after the A'dillo debacle that WG thought it okay to introduce both the AVRE and Wiesel....... From my perspective a sad reflection of both Dev's and Testers!!!!!!!! Nice video giving a balanced view with sound alternative fixes, well done!! 👏👍 I just hope that WG admit their error.....
I have found something pen the front of the AVRE conquer or the super conquer premium rounds
That 1 degree of gun depression is what saved you in that game we were in the other week 😄the one with you and Randy Duck.
He was in a Foch and you were in the French Futur thing you totally used that 1degree of gun depression against me to not enable to aim bang on GG
Agree with what nerfs you have suggested especially the spaced armour on the front.
I agree that WG's proposal to make it see only T9 & 10's doesn't address the problem with the vehicle.
That will make t8 better, but t9 and 10 horrible.
I like your proposal of 85mm for 1100 max, and 240 for 800 max. And remove the Spaced frontal armour. I also suggest shell velocity of both HESh shells of 240-300m/s. (Similar to historical vehicle's shells).
Lastly, WG need to have a clear and unambiguous disclaimer when purchasing any premium tank: The game will always be a work-in-progress, and balance changes are constantly necessary, and Premium tanks can and will be changed whenever necessary. The notion that premium tanks cant be nerfed is nonsense.
Thanks for this video Petty. Love your work! :)
Mate they don't listen, they never really have. Even when they do it is years and years later. Let's be honest we are not dealing with top end Devs here are we? I've been in this game since beta and they are a clown company with clowns for staff. I'd love to give constructive feedback but they're utter mong's. You've platooned with me enough to know my opinion on them. Fyi it's Goodcat
I think the changes to it that you propose are REASONABLE, and would make the game playable again for everybody. Which is exactly why Wargaming WON'T do it. They WILL do something stupid like preventing it from seeing Tier VIII's. They LIVE for band aid fixes that DO NOT work...
Hesh: 120 pen 1000 damage, reduced shell travel speed
Premium: 240 850 damage, reduced shell travel speed
Reduced space armor, more susceptible to ammo racks and fires
And slightly longer reload duration
100mm of pen, give it kv2 accuracy but better aim time. Give it a slower turret traverse speed. Make the scoop not count as spaced armor. Keeps dpm, keeps decent pen, keeps mobility, keeps camo and can still go hull down reliably
I'm sure you usually say "Derp is love, Derp is life," 😂
Id set the DMG and PEN for the high alpha HESH to 1200hp and 100pen.
Set the higher pen Round to 850DMG and make it a HEAT, so it cant overmatch and u can bounce the one ore other hit from it.
And id also make the shovel thing cosmetic only, so it cant be that braindead aggressive anymore..
If they want to keep the shovel, id set the mobility in the direction like on the Sharpshooter (that thing in my opinion needs a buff to its mobility stats) and tame down its camo and viewrange..
This season has been simultaneously the best and the worst in a long time, the best in terms of ultimate season pass value with 2 top tier tanks and the worst when those tanks are gamebreaking(avre) and borderline op(thumper) and don't forget the wiesel tow being incredibly annoying to fight against and hunt down.
In terms of balance I would make the gun similar to the type 5 heavy and slow down the tank while making the lower plate completely exposed to make it good in positions like ridgelines but make it difficult to reposition and maybe lower the turret rotation speed so tanks can flank and throw his aim off
I think one thing I'd adjust that you said was the spaced armor. I'd make it so just the main bulldozer blade was spaced armor but the bit on top as well as all the bits connecting the blade to the hull are just cosmetic. That way it doesn't really protect the lower plate at all unless youre shooting from above but if thats the case you could just shoot over the blade and hit the upper plate or the top of the turret. I can accept not penning the upper plate of a tank straight on to me but when my kranvagn gets two whole clips into the lower plate only to pen a grand total of 0 shots thats when I'm starting to consider playing a different game
Totally agree with this. The armor is what makes this tank broken. When you can't pen the bottom plate reliably head on, it makes the tank so hard to deal with, and almost impossible if you have a low-pen gun like any tier 8 non-td. The turret is hard to pen with tier 10 premium rounds because it can move relatively quickly and has odd angles. It's almost impossible as a tier 8. With a tank this mobile, there needs to be a relatively large/easily pen-able weak spot, and that just doesn't exist right now. When you think of tier 10's with frontal armor this good, the mobility is nowhere near as good. Making the bottom plate as easy to pen as a Centurion 7/1 would be the first big step in bringing this tank into a reasonable state.
The other change which I still think would be necessary would be just as Petty360 described with the gun:
Normal HE: 85-100 Pen & 1200 damage - still a lot of damage if it doesn't pen and satisfying if it does.
HESH: 240 pen & 800-900 damage - that way it still does damage when it doesn't pen but it is in the 200-300 range rather than the 4-500 range. Making this round AP would be fine too but I think that would be an extreme nerf and would make the tank played a lot less. I wouldn't hate to see that, but I am trying to be fair and not nerf the tank to oblivion like my heart wants to. (I hate that thing so much.)
An accuracy nerf would be fine too, but I don't feel like it's as necessary as these other 2 nerfs.
@@mrbears26 honestly an ap premium round could be a buff. Realistically speaking it would have some actual good pen and ~850 damage definitely slaps. Thats the one redeeming quality on the Bär, the gun gets a pretty nice ap round. Otherwise yeah, those gun changes sound pretty good. I definitely wouldn't want it to get nerfed into the ground because I have one and its not really fair to make a tank shit after so many people have bought one but it could definitely use some adjustment
That's what I don't understand. The tank is basically a tractor. So why did they make it so fast?
🛑🛑 I like the “ decorative armor idea”. 👍
Even a Super Heavy has trouble penning the AVRE frontally.
If the armor would nerfed, the ARVE, just. couldn’t push into any tank it wants to, without repercussions.
👍💯
I totally agree with the suggestions you made in the video. I thought about it myself and thinks this is the best nerf for this OP TIER 10 MONSTER!
unfortunately wargaming will never touch premiums considering what they did way back on pc when they nerfed one premium the whole wot community came crashing down on wargaimng.
@@zombe1990 WG nerfed last year or in 2021 a premium tank they sold, so it it possible
@@TankingWithFoody yes but highly unlikley
Finallly a video hightlighting how overpowered and broken the avre is. It is bonkers some people defend this monster. The changes you recommend are exactly what i would do. WG GET YOUR SHIT TOGEHTER AND NERF THE AVRE AND OTHER OP SHIT LIKE THE TARAN TO MAKE YOUR GAME ENYOABLE!!11!!!!1!!
It seems every ultimate edition tank is slightly overpowered if used correctly. Almost if they want you to buy the ultimate edition instead of the standard
I would reduce the damage and shell velocity.
My guess is they will turn up its rng factor when the season is over. This was just a cash grab tank by wg sadly
Just removing the spaced armor would be huge. As it is it sometimes feels impossible to punish an Avre.
Tgis is why i play my Sturmtiger. The avre comes around the corner thinking its okay to get a free shot, boom HE to the turret for 800 dmg. Makes them stay back a bit.
You are a real good killer.. Petty..chin chin..🍻
It needs a reliable frontal weakspot so it cant peek a boom without consequence, all other comparable tanks have one
The Taran killed the game for me. The Alpha, the accuracy, and the camo. It makes playing lights and fast mediums pointless. The RNG seems to favor them a lot too. I've absorbed Deathstars and Waffentrager E100s with the LTTB, but not Tarans. I have mostly stopped playing because of them.
Taran has mobility too !!!!! cc's can boost their stats, wallet warriors just keep pouring real money into WG, so they are loving this.
i say limit them to 1 per team, problem solved. This way they won't have to change the vehicle itself, which would be very bad for the future of wot console. I certainly wouldn't buy any premium tank if there's a possibility that they change the stats sometime later. When it's just one of these per team, you don't have to face them every match and you won't get heshed to death in your super heavy every time. Right now, playing a heavy tank is basically nonsense. The AVRE does 500 or more damage pretty much guaranteed while you bounce of its stupid shield.
This is coming from someone who's replaced both their highest damage per game (close to 10k) and the highest average damage in a vehicle (4400 at the moment with 40 games played) with the AVRE.
I doubt they will nerf a premium again because they got sued for nerfing the Armadillo. What they should do is actually test new tanks instead of just carelessly slapping them into the game. Just lazy.
@@scootlesvonnoodles5529 I think they'll nerf it.
Just limiting them to one per team doesn't fix the broken aspects of the tank. A T10 medium should not be able to one shot a T8 medium.
@@snorelacks7069 Yea, but you can't change a tank for the worse which people payed money for. That would ruin their entire business model. Of course, i would love to see changes like making the shield cosmetic instead of it being spaced armor, but that's just not gonna happen. In germany we say "das kind ist bereits in den brunnen gefallen", which translates to the kid already being fallen into the well, now we gotta make the best of it without doing more harm to the game.
@@unterschicht_investor7220 They nerfed the Pnzr 5/4 traverse, they nerfed the Type 59 II and a couple others.
Reduce damage potential and weaken armor should help.. and limit numbers per team.. like era 3.. it's stupid with 7 thumpers and Wiesel's running around.. absolute chaotic stupidity.. and I have both tanks lol.. just my opinion
What's crazy is wargaming keeps doing their balancing updates periodically to tiers an lines but continues to release money grab tanks and messing up all the balances they previously made. I don't own the tank, crossed my mind to grab it but I never did. I simply dropped down tiers to avoid it unfortunately. So no input from me but your changes sound good
No idea how anyone thought this could be a good addition to the game in its current form lmao. Getting rid of the armour is definitely needed and maybe give it a prem heat round with 650 alpha and put the standard hesh to around 100 mm pen but giving it prem mm really does nothing just like you said
I skipped the Aston Rex last season, but I knew this AVRE is a must buy this season. Very addicting to drive btw.
If you like abusing broken tanks then yeah sure probably love the Taran aswell
You’re literally part of the problem mate
Ever since AVRE entered the game, it has been completely destroying matchmaking. Broken armor, high speed, rotating turret + huge alpha, good maneuverability. I hope your video hits the mark and they nerf this crap...
Best thing to do with this is to just put it into cold war and ballance it for cold war as its not a ww2 tank or any tank along those lines , wargaming are getting Into the habit of added busted tanks that would be fine for cold war but putting them in ww2 , like the taren for example
Try this first, make the he/hesh rounds super expensive to use. So, if you play this tank and do okay with it you'll get dinged 167k silver in doing so. A mastery game with 9k damage may make you 35k ... or something like that.
Everyone has one ... just make it really expensive to run so people only run it from time to time or only after they've played their prem tanks and earned some silver. Currently it's too cheap to run, everyone got one because it, what, only took 6k gold to get.
I've mentioned it before, the Taran has it's own problems as outlined in the video ... but at least it's more rare to see one because of it's much higher cost of entry.
The Taran isn't putting people off WoT as much as the AVRE is.
I was playing a tier 8 med Draugen and did everything right, sneaking up on people, using range to punish ... I was running scared one game because my team melted and I was scouting ... all of a suddent an AVRE blapped me from behind when I was briefly spotted and one-shotted me.
I can't really imagine what a regular potato player must feel when one-shotted. At some point people just say "F this" and move onto a different game.
With the silver earnings in CW, WW2 silver cost doesn’t have any value to many players anymore. You could make the ammo 100,000 a round and I’d just go play CW for a game or two to make the lost money back. The only players that would care about the cost are the ones that refuse to play CW (I only play CW when I need silver or there’s a special silver earn OP).
@@matthewmoses I totally forgot about that because I don't play cold war at all.
Posted 8 months ago. This tank is still breaking the game. 3 of them on a flank still DOMINATE that flank. The reload is still WAY too fast. The armor is still WAY too good. The concealment is still WAY too crazy. The "don't have to aim" is still BS. Sick of it. I have to completely change how I play a given game if they have more than 1 AVRE, even if I'm playing the Kranvagn or 60tp. At this point, they should just change how hesh works. It should only calculate damage in a narrow cone in front of it. If it hits armor that is effectively higher than its max pen roll, it should only do a small amount of damage. It should also be much weaker against angles. I am tired of 0 skill tanks.
GG
Longer reload and a change to pen and accuracy.
Saw avre mentioned on your recent E50 vid, so had to look into it... Think I'll put off coming back to console for a while as I have no interest in gettin one, or facing them lol. Shame WG decided to break the game so badly, was once my favourite version of wot.
Legitimate shame when even WWII mode is reduced to memes and lols... Ah well war thunder for console It is for now lol
Reduction to pen and alpha and removal of spaced armor on the front.
How about relocating the tank to CW era 2?
i dont think it would survive long in cw
they could do with moving it to cold war era 1 or 2 really it's a fun tank until it's guns pointing at you then it's like well that's game over
Lower the pen, nerf the armor all around the turret and the hull. Simple just turn it into a paper tank it’s a medium tank not a heavy tank.
Think it should be changed to be a HE ammo not HESH with a smaller amount of pen
Yes take away spaced armor and make it cosmetic is good for me
I still think the Cobra is more broken but apparently only a handful of people got it while it seems everyone picked up the AVRE.
Those suckers are deadly 😢
@@supermaster1o167 Right if I see a AVRE I'll avoid it no biggie, but if I see a Cobra I sh!t my pants lmao
No penalty for penetrating a shot. I call it a auto pen tank, easy 500 damage hit per shot.
Limit them to 2 per team in a game. Dont allow 3 man platoons of them. Nerf the frontal armour and mobility
Just drop the Pen on both ammo's and damage, But then I do not have much of a problem with the tank as I play TD most of the time IE: the Taran just to unwind after days works.
Lol taran player
Giving it the same stats as the Conway's 5.5 inch gun, with slightly buffed pen (5-10 mm) and reload (0.5 s) would probably sort it. Making the dozer blade a module (takes up to 700 alpha and is then cosmetic; cannot be repaired after two 105/120 mm hits) would also help.
Here’s my idea with it:
Accuracy must be nerfed, it’s stupid good for a shorty gun like that. 0.5 minimum.
Mobility down to 30kph, and hp/ton should be lower by about 2 or 3.
Also, standard HEAH pen down to 120 with 1100 damage, premium with 240 pen at 950 alpha. Aim time can stay the same, it’ll be very derpy anyways. And it will make it balanced on the tiers including tier 8s, without removing it form regular +/-2 matchmaking.
Remove the front shovel lower it’s damaged up it’s reload to 40
Seconds make its accuracy trash and make it low roll for 250 easy fix or take the shovel off the front Nerf gun
All Wargaming really needs to do is give everyone my RNG when playing this thing, and they'll disappear from the matchmaking within a week.
Rounds leave the gun at a 20° angle, making me miss tanks that are only 20-30 meters away. Never pens (hit a Bulldog smack in the upper plate yesterday and only did 470 damage). Only does around 200-300 damage to weak points when I do manage to hit them. Constantly gets penned frontally. I'm only averaging around 2,000-2,500 per game while firing 8-10 rounds.
I hate playing the AVRE just as much as I hate playing against them.
5 month an no change… not good. It‘s still a pain to play against this tank, specially if you play a lot of T8. I think they should nerf the hesh rounds to a max of 120 pen and increase the aim time / reduce accuracy - and maybe give it a AP round. I would make the front weaker - the shovel can be spaced armor but maybe only a small part.
Will they change something that people have paid for? It might make it hard to sell tanks in the future......do they test tanks before they release them 😂😅
I think where it meets t9-10 is a good thing other than the type 5 heavy any tank that can do 1000+ damage at t9-10 and the taran shouldn’t meet any t8 as just getting hit by one makes players just throw the tank away give up and go to the next game
If anything I’d boost its concealment higher so they can’t hide at the back camping
It’s more a skill level and play style like with the majority tanks
The better players always ruin tanks like these for players who play this for fun have a laugh with friends and don’t care of the competitive side of it
Every single one of my tier 10 heavies get s*** on by this tank. It is not fair that it can penetrate my toughest armour without even needing time to zero in. This tank is the bane of my existence I am tired of seeing it in every game. So game breaking
I return from the dead! Not even sure if petty recalls me, anyhow to tha actual comment.
This vehicle needs to be NERFed. The armour is way to good for what it is and the gun literally requires no braincells to operate as you need to hit anywhere and does 500-600 damage. And if said unfortunate tank has not enough armour it does a stupid ammount of damage. I honnestly don't know what they were expecting... Genuinely makes me stop playing my type 4 heavy at times.
I just think in general tier x tanks shouldn’t go against tier 8 tanks
It’s hard to play against it. Nerf the tank, reduce the damage
I feel like if they made the front armor cosmetic it kind of get rid of the uniqueness of the tank I just personally think it should be limited per team the amount of them you have on each team because if there was one on a team the whole team could single it out and take it out but if there's a whole Army of them that's impossible also if they Nerf it I would be quite disappointed that I spent gold on it for it to be Stripped Away of the things I like about it not that I bought it yet though
Exactly, apart from the fact that if they did that it would practically be a nerf for nerf as they would have to add frontal depression as well as lateral depression, as it would be a big disadvantage not to have frontal armour and also to have diminished frontal depression.
Just remove the tank give everyone a refund problem solved but they won’t do that.
the problem is the players...i've watched AVRE drivers NOT counter other AVREs and instead go the other way on the battle field. 😡😡
its like light tanks who run away from enemy lights and don't intercept them.
I've all but stopped playing T10, even with my own AVRE because of the way this thing has broken battles..the only 8s i'm playing are those with PMM...all my favorite 10s are just sitting sad....good thing is, i'm spending more time in cold war now....even with weeezles running rampant, i just chase them with my 'Dillo 😈
Nerf the turret armor, the damage from 1200 to 800 and the splash damage 600 to 300-400
iI bounced 750 from an e-100
It should be moved to CW Era 2 or 3
I would take the AVRE and The Taran out of the Game , the AVRE is so stupid ,even if you don't Pen you make Splashdamage🙄
This tank should have been a Cold War era tank not a tier X
I think it should be a tank destroyer and be limited only one on a team and also not be able to play with tier 8 or 9s because there is no reason there should be like five or six on a team it is absolutely aggravating and ridiculous
No problem playing against this tank the Taran I get killed by this more because can't find it camouflage stupid
Did they make any changes to it? I like the list you drew up , this would be fine I think. Personally I wouldn't buy this tank or the terran, I feel they do to much damage to the game, I here people moaning about how ww2 is broken and unbalanced on one hand and on the other hand they buy stupid unbalanced tanks like this. If we buy them war gaming will sell them , in the long run it's us who ruin the game with what we buy.
No mate. Nothings changed and theyve basically ignored it.
If Wargaming nerfs this tank and does nothing to the FV's, then it's just unfair to the community. If they adjust this tank, then they will have to adjust every OP tank.
Leave it as it is and players have to adjust and learn how to play. AVRE also has weak points and gets destroyed.
Nowadays grinding a tank line to tier X without boosters is just bonkers. With the amount of analphabetic people in the game. It makes me prefer the premium tanks.
Totally agree!! Players have to stop being lazy and complaining about OP tanks and instead need to learn how to kill these things.
It would be fine if it had no armor. The 215b 183 is hull lock with ok armor. The 4005 has no armor. I have seen the are bounce jagE100 rounds. It is painfully overpowered and does too much damage on non pens. It has 240 prem pen which is about 60 too high. It is terrible for the game.
Nerf pen by 60 and armor by 50%
or nerf gun damage and accuracy and camo
or nerf armor and camo and make it have HE like type 5.
Or nerf reload and pen.
It literally has ruined the game in top tiers! I bought the tank after coming back from a long break, I've not played it once having seen how broken it was!
This tank needs big changes! it's makeing t10 so boring to play and point less for most heavys.
In my opinion the armour is the biggest problem there's just no way to punish reckless game play
Armour definitely a big problem for it
The weasel and fv4005 are worse I believe . the weasel can't be hit iv bounced 3 shots one game off the back of while using a thumper
if they made those changes i will delet wot and demand a full refund for everything i ever purchased on thier game or sue them
This tank is like bz on pc.
Limit the amount of Avre's to 2 on each game.
Its toxic plz remove. Nah seriously, indeed make the ''all bouncing shovel'' on the front cosmetic and reduce the pen and camo factor.
This shovel and small gun bounces more and does more dmg than the armor and gun of my type 5 and Maus. (and most other heavies and super heavies) That does not seem correct.
Are people still complaing about Pz V/IV after this was released? I am only playing 6 to 8 because of this, for a while. At tier 8 I only play fast tanks with good camo, like lights and fast mediums. I have it, it's disgusting how easily you can do 5k damage. Poor 8's, I feel pitty when I hit them for all their HP and ruin their day. Problem is, wg won't nerf it because people spent gold on it. They are just faking it, waiting for the season to end and for the people to stop playing it, as it happened with the taran and other op tanks. The problem is, with old palyers like me, at tier 6 is also bad for the game, new players trying to learn won't stand a chance against fully equiped good premiums with a 10 skill crew. They are just sitting ducks... I feel sorry for them also.
A Gamebreaker i the fv4005 in CW but all CC's say it's fine 🤡🤣
i love this tank so much im grinding for 2 marks right now. it would be my first with two marks, im currently at 78%. its a pain to get more % for the mark considering im getting 4k dmg plus each game and its hardly moving lol. all you need to defeat the centurion avre is to stay at range dont exspose too much because of its slow shell velocity and make sure to hit the under plat or copula, and wait for the side most times. making the tank not meet t8's will be amazing for the t8's allowing them to stand a chance, hopefully they do that.
Don’t need skill with this tank. Should be band from the game
Do you pay for these tanks or wargaming support you
I pay for everything mate
@@Petty360 😢😢
I see these being played by some absolute cretins, autoaiming and having zero map awareness etc. The tank has broken top tier games because it requires zero skill to play it and it doesn't require much to have a decent damage game in it. With so many in the lobby, it's making the game stale and campy. I'm just typing exactly what you're saying about nerfing the reload, accuracy and armour on the front.
Yes can't really push with them in game 😅 then you get cooky teammates in them who think they can kill everyone them ended up getting killed easily an throwing the game sucks too😢
We have ww2 and cold war. War gaming is messing up. We need a Hard Core mode, 1 pen you die no matter what. gg
Tbh the ww2 gamemode isnt fun anymore
Generaly camo is too good imo
Also taran avre exist
Before them the whole td meta was toxoc anyway
So the ww2 is dead for me
Change gun depresssion to -3 or 0 on all sides, make it fun to play as BAR