Building a Phase Converter - Part 1

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  • čas přidán 14. 09. 2017
  • This is part one of a three video series on building a phase converter. This part is the heart of the subject. I will lay out the entire converter on a large sheet of plywood so you can easily see how I put things together. We will select the correct capacitors and test run the converter under load.
    Part 2 and 3 will be about adding safety and convenience items, then mounting it all in an enclosure and wiring it up in the shop.
    Dec2018 - I have had a couple of inquiries about the start capacitor: It is a 216-259mfd 330vac cap. ~P
    Document I followed: www.practicalmachinist.com/Fit...
    Midwest Surplus Electronics: www.midwestsurplus.net/
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Komentáře • 381

  • @profesonalantagonist
    @profesonalantagonist Před 5 měsíci +3

    The best phase converter video I’ve seen yet.

  • @zombieprinting2670
    @zombieprinting2670 Před 4 lety +15

    Exactly the series I needed! Open wire diagram and great explanation. Too many people complicate this and make it hard when it's not. Thanks very much. I have 3 phase in my shop now :)

  • @wm79198
    @wm79198 Před 5 lety +9

    Wow! Breaking it down to the essential components was very helpfull. Thanks for taking the time to make this series.

  • @1969Kakashi
    @1969Kakashi Před 4 lety +22

    This is how CZcams should be done. Thanks for the efforts. They have been well received.

  • @MrWaalkman
    @MrWaalkman Před rokem +1

    Re-watching this as I have one to build. Couldn't help but notice the old school Amprobe like the one that I have had since I was a cub. :)

  • @killking402
    @killking402 Před 3 lety +2

    This is a fantastic display of how a rotary phase converter works! This was very helpful for understanding how a RPC functions, one component at a time. Very well broken down. Nice work!

  • @diglesspaul
    @diglesspaul Před 6 lety +6

    Absolutely the best rotary phase converter series on youtube. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten us. I bought a used, homemade one, with no diagram, not connected to the pony motor, and i was pulling my hair out trying to figure it out. Thanks again!

  • @Plus8Precision
    @Plus8Precision Před 5 lety +8

    First off great video series, the most common sense explanation of a rotary phase converter build and testing on youtube.

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Před 3 lety +3

    I have to totally be honest with you Birdranch. This is the first video I have seen that totally goes over all the relevant points in down to earth language. I am wondering why others on CZcams have not figured out how to be so simple and to the point. Frankly this is just refreshing to see and hear your explanations. Great job fella. You should get an award for being number one. YOU ROCK FOR SURE. VF

  • @metalfabman5477
    @metalfabman5477 Před rokem

    What an excellent understandable tutorial you have put together for someone wanting to build their own converter! Wish I would have had this 20 yrs ago when I built mine and did all these very same steps as I figured out my start and run caps. You have made a seemingly complex subject very understandable for a first timer!! Kudos to you and all your efforts to help someone else you don't even know. Just Excellent!!😃

  • @rupert5390
    @rupert5390 Před 6 lety +1

    Doug I have read & watched so much crap over about three years trying to build one - this is by far the very best tutorial - you are a genius - I have to deal with trying to step up to 415v with a reverse wired transformer but your set up is ace.

  • @gruobn7482
    @gruobn7482 Před 2 lety

    So far this was the best phase converter video I have seen. Thanks.

  • @randywright918
    @randywright918 Před 2 lety

    Followed this Great Build making me a 10HP 3 phase for my shop! Works perfect for my Horizontal Milling machine and Grinder. Tuning Capacitors was lot of trial and error, Thank you from bottom of my heart I can troubleshoot and repair my own Unit! Randy

  • @michaelmeredith9470
    @michaelmeredith9470 Před 2 lety

    Best series of videos on this subject by far. Detailed yet clea well done

  • @buroughs
    @buroughs Před 3 lety

    Best explanation of a rotary phase converter build...well done!

  • @ROLANDOULIGAN
    @ROLANDOULIGAN Před 3 lety +1

    This is better than learning at some schools. Salute for the effort sir!

  • @sandystanley1237
    @sandystanley1237 Před 3 lety

    Probably one of the best, easiest video to understand. Thank you.

  • @cowboyyoga
    @cowboyyoga Před 6 měsíci +1

    Wow! Did I ever! It is the first time in all the time spent figuring out how to do this - that I feel comfortable! Thank you! Subscribed! And will watch the rest of the series.

  • @68greengoat
    @68greengoat Před 6 lety +2

    Awesome video, very good job of explaining the theory behind the concept

  • @tonyd4046
    @tonyd4046 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for your instructions. Now I can build my own with confidence. I was confused about amount of capacitors. Again, please keep us awake with anything news under your knowledge.

  • @alfredokoh8341
    @alfredokoh8341 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks a lot for the diagram and instructions !! really appreciate it !! please do not be tired of posting education videos like this !!

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift Před 6 lety +5

    Well done! Thank you, SBR.

  • @oliverdaly9030
    @oliverdaly9030 Před 6 lety

    Hi It's Oliver again I really appreciate your quick response and explanation your explanation of the project is fantastic your make it look so simple compared to all the other videos Kind Regards and Thanks a lot Oliver

  • @AM-dn4lk
    @AM-dn4lk Před 3 lety

    This is one of the best video illustration and tutorial on the subject. Thank you

  • @mot6021
    @mot6021 Před 5 lety +4

    Finally a video that explains things , is well made and complete. good job. Thanks

  • @Nodularguy1
    @Nodularguy1 Před 2 lety

    Best video series on Homemade phase converter.

  • @Evipicc
    @Evipicc Před rokem

    For my college course I'm building a 120v stepdown to 15v 1ph AC then making a 15v rotary phase converter... You have no idea how much this video helps.

  • @jafinch78
    @jafinch78 Před rokem

    Excellent hands on demonstration! Thanks for sharing!

  • @karlthompson1961
    @karlthompson1961 Před 3 lety

    Your video is the best I’ve seen on the subject matter. Great work, thank you. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @marcellemay7721
    @marcellemay7721 Před 5 lety +15

    Great video on sizing and methodology of inserting the capacitors. Everyone else just seems to gloss over this very important step. Well done!

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks. That is what motivated the making of this series. No details in others I found. ~P

    • @charlesleiker8896
      @charlesleiker8896 Před 4 lety

      @@sbirdranch Do you have a schematic available?

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 4 lety

      @@charlesleiker8896 there is a document link in the description.

    • @MrWaalkman
      @MrWaalkman Před 4 lety

      Or just skip them entirely. This is how I've built converters in the past with no problems.
      But I will admit that this is a much better way of doing things.

  • @jacain1234
    @jacain1234 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video. It's all about tuning the phase shift via capacitors.

  • @unclejoeoakland
    @unclejoeoakland Před 11 měsíci

    This answers so much. Sir, you are a boone upon other tradesmen.

  • @jeepersmurphy2570
    @jeepersmurphy2570 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much. Excellent video series. Best on CZcams. Actual guide

  • @anthonyevers149
    @anthonyevers149 Před 4 lety +4

    Thank you. I just bought a 3 phase welder at a auction. At the time I had know idea it was 3 phase.

  • @krazyhartin
    @krazyhartin Před rokem

    This is a well explained video. I watched other videos about these rotary converters but I never got a full explanation on how they work and how to balance them. Thank you. 👍

  • @josephmwangi2760
    @josephmwangi2760 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for taking the time. Awesome video

  • @StormbringerMM
    @StormbringerMM Před 3 lety +1

    Just commenting again - this is exceedingly well done. I prefer this version over adding in yet another motor to remove the back emf resisting the initial start. Literally less moving parts.

  • @billrick4729
    @billrick4729 Před 5 lety

    Very good explanation. One thing you could do for your starter capacitor is to hang a centrifugal switch on the motor; that output shaft isn't doing anything else but spin anyways. That would be closed when the motor is off and open up as soon as it comes up to speed. No worries about a relay that might burn out.

  • @haroutzeitounian4187
    @haroutzeitounian4187 Před 6 lety +8

    great explanation great thank you

  • @charlybrown1605
    @charlybrown1605 Před 6 lety

    It is the best video that I have seen on the internet, thanks for your time.
    I'm from Guatemala, Centroamerica and is difficult to find information about this system in spanish.
    You video is very good.
    Thanks.

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 6 lety

      Your welcome. Glad it helped you. ~P

  • @Engineer-Machinist
    @Engineer-Machinist Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you! I bought a Phoenix phase converter and it came from the factory out of balance. I didn't realize this till recently. They said to add capacitors to fix it and this was a great resource!

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 5 měsíci

      I shake my head that they didn't balance it to start. I hope the price was very inexpensive. Also glad you got it squared away. ~P

  • @christiaanmeyer2215
    @christiaanmeyer2215 Před rokem

    This guy is brilliant .followed everything step by step and it is working better than my 5.5kw vfd

  • @al9094
    @al9094 Před 6 lety

    Its OK to have a sense of hummer. Some video makers think they have to burn up tools just for the show. That's OK if you are just entertaining . I see you're video as educational. That's why I clicked to watch it and I did learn from it. Ty

  • @waqaryousuf2337
    @waqaryousuf2337 Před 5 lety +1

    Sir your experience very very well thanks

  • @marpal8279
    @marpal8279 Před 6 lety +1

    Gracias amigo es exelente y pedagogico me sirve de mucho sobre todo el modo de enclavar el contactor sin contacto auxiliar. very good.

  • @hakimbouamrane7563
    @hakimbouamrane7563 Před rokem

    Great Job! Thank you for all explanations....

  • @johnbolongo9978
    @johnbolongo9978 Před rokem

    Great job......nicely put together and thank you.

  • @maxwright4387
    @maxwright4387 Před 3 lety +1

    ah thank you very much for this. i just got a big three phase motor and wanted to build a rotary converter but couldn't find instructions on balancing. couple dudes show their converters with a bunch of capacitors but don't explain how they determined what to use and where. also that document is suuuper helpful. thumbs up

  • @asgharrezaei0138
    @asgharrezaei0138 Před 5 lety +1

    Great , Man , you are so strong teacher , thank you so much , i really learned a lot with easy Method.

  • @karinka88
    @karinka88 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome 🤩 video, thanks, I needed to know the capacitor values and you showed me!

  • @robertcharbeneau5040
    @robertcharbeneau5040 Před 6 měsíci

    I watched your videos on this and it worked perfect! I built one using your instruction video. Thank you!!! Excellent video

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 5 měsíci

      Great. Glad it was of use. I have done a total of 3 now. All the same way. Enjoy the equipment you hook to it. ~P

  • @wwrite
    @wwrite Před 5 lety

    Excellent video, keep up the awesome content!

  • @josederibamarmarinhoteixei4497

    PROJETO MUITO LEGAL, OBRIGADO!

  • @StormbringerMM
    @StormbringerMM Před 3 lety +1

    This is fantastic.

  • @johnbiggs7620
    @johnbiggs7620 Před 6 lety

    Pretty dang cool. Thanks for sharing

  • @georgetaylor8535
    @georgetaylor8535 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you so much that just taught me so much i had no clue before i watched this video your a great instructor. im subbed with thumbs up

  • @DougHanchard
    @DougHanchard Před 6 lety +3

    Superb video.

  • @tankerbill1431
    @tankerbill1431 Před 3 lety

    I would like to thank you very much for a great and easy to follow video. By following the videos I was able to build a 10 hp rotary convertor and it works great. If its ok and somebody is interested, I will list the cap values for the 10 hp.

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 3 lety

      List the values you used. They may very a little between idler motors but its a good start.

  • @johnsushchyk7933
    @johnsushchyk7933 Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much
    Great information
    It really helps clear the view of how to accomplish a build
    God bless you n your work

  • @bismark2773
    @bismark2773 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow great job Sir ...!!!

  • @JulianMakes
    @JulianMakes Před 4 lety +2

    This is so perfectly explained, I think I’ll be making one for my lathe, thank you!!!

    • @Savagetechie
      @Savagetechie Před 4 lety

      they are also really inefficient. better to buy a VFD.

    • @gilbertodiaz-castro626
      @gilbertodiaz-castro626 Před 4 lety

      @@Savagetechie That may be so, but when you have several machines to run the costs for the VFD's become prohibitive for a small/hobby shop.

    • @Savagetechie
      @Savagetechie Před 4 lety

      @@gilbertodiaz-castro626 true the get costly on multiple machines and some motors won't like them. There is a type of rotary convertor that has a true neutral which is also reasonably efficient. Most rotary designs have pretty nasty neutrals.

  • @gs-me
    @gs-me Před 6 lety

    Good morning from Trinidad W.I.
    I recently acquired a delta 10" unisaw for my home workhop. The tablesaw is powered by a 5hp 3ph motor. I have since been pondering if to change the motor to a 1ph.
    Studying this video series. You make this so easy that I am gonna try this.
    Thanks for an excellent demo.

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 6 lety

      Good evening from Ohio, USA. You can make one of these. And down grading the Unisaw to 1ph would be sad. A 3hp table saw will not let you down, where small sometimes does. Good luck. ~P

    • @gs-me
      @gs-me Před 6 lety

      sbirdranch
      Good morning again.
      No no I am not installing a 1hp motor....... but looking into building a phase converter as you have demonstrated.
      Also am told off and have seen a. 230v 3ph. 5hp run of a 220v 1ph supply.
      The motor was running off two capacitors with a bell stwich connected to one capacitor to get the motor up to speed. Some similarities to your push button stwich.
      Again there was one power loss,, I was told about 30%.
      Are you familiar with this approach and iff so. Please enlighten us novices.
      Thanks again.

  • @jhuzcelclear1887
    @jhuzcelclear1887 Před rokem

    Thanks for the video ...very helpful and informative concepts...salute to the content creator....

  • @nickpopelka
    @nickpopelka Před 6 lety +3

    That was awesome

  • @MaturePatriot
    @MaturePatriot Před 6 lety

    Very Educational. This has clarified a lot of my questions. I need one to run my 3hp 3ph lathe.

    • @BLDEVINE1
      @BLDEVINE1 Před 6 lety

      You can also use a vfd with single phase 230volt input. Then you have unlimited speed control also.

    • @MaturePatriot
      @MaturePatriot Před 6 lety

      +byron devine - I am looking at another 3ph piece of equipment. The RPC will power both. From what I have seen VFDs cause a loss of torque on low end speeds.

  • @brochslanders1845
    @brochslanders1845 Před 4 lety +1

    wow, this was great.

  • @THEMACINTOSH25
    @THEMACINTOSH25 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you, good videos

  • @Jeremy-iv9bc
    @Jeremy-iv9bc Před 2 lety

    Hey man this is excellent. Thank you!

  • @patelsahab5564
    @patelsahab5564 Před 2 lety

    Very informative. Thank you

  • @jamesmcalarney2991
    @jamesmcalarney2991 Před 4 lety

    Thanks and hello from Las Vegas millwrights

  • @johncornwall7903
    @johncornwall7903 Před 10 měsíci +1

    ❤thanks much for that video i follow it and made a rotary converter to run two peices of tools did as you said just have to balance the legs still alittle lost on what are the requied voltages per leg but it is the BEST❤❤❤

  • @frankdelucey2137
    @frankdelucey2137 Před 6 lety

    Best simple Explanation Ever!!! :)

  • @SecurityisaMyth
    @SecurityisaMyth Před 2 lety

    Nice! Thank you for the effort!

  • @L_A_N_G_D_O_N
    @L_A_N_G_D_O_N Před 2 lety

    Your video helped me 4 years ago when I built my first RPC. Been utilizing it again to rebuild a new and improved version of it now that I moved.
    I was having trouble somewhere so I pulled everything out of the cabinet and screwed it all down to a piece of plywood so I could see everything and what do you know, worked perfectly.
    Any time I need to learn something or have questions about something, CZcams is one of my first resources. After 10 plus years of utilizing YT I think your video here is probably the best video I’ve ever watched. As far as making something that seems so daunting, become easily achievable.
    (And I put some thought into that statement before posting it)
    Anyways, Thank you for the resource! I may account for 200 or so of the views. 👍

  • @vincentsalerno8675
    @vincentsalerno8675 Před 5 lety +1

    Nice job

  • @timd1191
    @timd1191 Před 3 lety +1

    Best explanation

  • @vinoluchi2684
    @vinoluchi2684 Před 3 lety

    Well Explained great work

  • @itanongmokayengineer
    @itanongmokayengineer Před 2 lety

    wohhh... this video is the best thanks this is the step by step on how to do it this is how should teacher teach in the school

  • @khairulnizammohmadnasir8792
    @khairulnizammohmadnasir8792 Před 3 měsíci

    I will do,thanks for share...

  • @tedm2416
    @tedm2416 Před 4 lety

    Super helpful! I've been using a 5hp phase converter for years. Problem is, it will not start a 7.5 hp motor in my 18" planer. Using this set-up to run my 7.5 means that "the board" becomes a "static" converter and my 7.5 will run at about 5hp output--which is plenty; it replaced a 3hp motor in a planer. Totally concise, and I have not even glanced at the paper you linked to.

  • @Just1GuyMetalworks
    @Just1GuyMetalworks Před 5 lety

    Pretty cool!

  • @j.a.mcbean.4043
    @j.a.mcbean.4043 Před 4 lety

    Great job

  • @gigatekph
    @gigatekph Před rokem

    Very Informative..Thank you Very Much

  • @Okie-Tom
    @Okie-Tom Před 6 lety

    As you said, this gives a much clearer idea on the capacitor use. One thing that has always confused me and you get all kinds of different answers on forums is the phase differences. You have an input power that that is 240 volt single phase where the two 120 lines are 180 degrees apart. Your pony motor and output power are 240 volt three phase but the phases are 120 degrees apart. So, is what your saying here is that using the capacitors are actually electrically moving the phases so they end up close to 120 degrees apart. I guess I am having trouble visualizing how you can start a 120 degree motor with 180 degree phasing power. Thanks, Tom

    • @chiraldude
      @chiraldude Před 6 lety

      Yeah!, me to. I would like to see the output on a scope and measure the actual phases. Must be some ugly harmonics flying around.
      Incoming is 180 then the cap absorbs some current and shifts it 90 degrees but that is still 30 degrees off. Maybe this is just a power factor thing where the phase difference gets kicked back onto the grid and is lost?

    • @perspectivex
      @perspectivex Před 5 lety

      I have the same confusion, what is the phase angle between the outputs of this circuit? It seems like the phase shift of a capacitor is 90° (www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-4/ac-capacitor-circuits), actually up to but not more than 90° (www.electronics-tutorials.ws/accircuits/ac-capacitance.html) so I'd think maybe the outputs are only some fraction of 90° apart, say 0 (take the input's phase as 0 for reference), then +90°. So motors might spin but there won't be as much power transferred from the lines to the motor and maybe (I'm not sure) they will also heat up more than they would with the norm of 120° difference between each phase in 3-phase.

  • @scotthill4742
    @scotthill4742 Před 3 lety

    awesome job! thanks, very informative.

  • @anthonyrosa4388
    @anthonyrosa4388 Před 5 lety

    WELL DONE!!!

  • @BLDEVINE1
    @BLDEVINE1 Před 6 lety +1

    Very nice video.

  • @ChrisUhlik
    @ChrisUhlik Před 4 lety +2

    Superbly explained and great reference document.
    One concern I have about rotary idler phase convertors like this is that the phases are +/- 90 degrees instead of +/- 120 degrees as in utility-supplied 3-phase systems. The L1 and L2 inputs are 180 degrees apart. 120 volts each (to ground and the power company's neutral) and 240 volts between the two phases. The synthesized idler leg driven by the pony motor and capacitors is right between L1 and L2, thus 90 degrees to each one. You will notice that if you measure your "ghost" voltage to ground, it will be about 240 volts rather than 120 volts like L1 and L2. This means ground isn't in the middle of your Wye any more. There are three phases and the voltages between them are all close to 240 volts, but they are not equal amplitude with respect to ground and they are not 120 degrees of offset between phases. Because of this, motor magnetics will not be optimally aligned and you should de-rate motors driven by this compared to the same motor driven from a true, 120 degree, 3 phase power supply.

  • @rickbronx8528
    @rickbronx8528 Před 4 lety

    Wow, thanks alot!

  • @josebaes9443
    @josebaes9443 Před 3 měsíci

    Good job

  • @markcolquehoun2218
    @markcolquehoun2218 Před 3 lety

    I love how you break it down I wish I had your contact to help me with a small project

  • @scienceandtechnologyst8134

    Very good

  • @robertmoore2783
    @robertmoore2783 Před 6 lety

    Best ever video and explanation. Well done. I am faced with powering a 550V motor( two speed lathe) so I am assuming that a step up transformer(230V up to 550V 10KVA) connected to your three phase outlet and then to the lathe motor will do the trick.
    I appreciate any input. Thank you in advance.

  • @sidetra1
    @sidetra1 Před 6 lety

    Very nice videos, I was wondering if this same set up will work with a larger pony motor, I have a 15 hp cnc mill so would I need a 30 hp motor? And will 100 amp 220v power be sufficient?

  • @MrRosalez23
    @MrRosalez23 Před 2 lety

    Fck yeah ! I have seen many videos building the converter by far the most help full

  • @jeffbondurant1013
    @jeffbondurant1013 Před 4 lety

    Love your in depth explanation of this convertor build. my question is what size start capacitor do i need to start a 20HP motor? I see the biggest most places supply is 1000-1200 MFD. I think i would need more than that if 70mfd per HP. Thanks!

  • @DaveMcLain
    @DaveMcLain Před 3 lety

    Thank you for the video.

  • @occif2023
    @occif2023 Před 4 lety +2

    "Admittingly missing some safety options" , I giggled at that. Almost everything I own is missing safety options . Borrowed time is my motto i guess. Nice video !

    • @grom7826
      @grom7826 Před 4 lety

      OSHA doesn't have authority in your castle !

  • @al9094
    @al9094 Před 6 lety

    I'm impressed that you have this many viewers and no disliked . its a little dry but I was not looking for a clown show. Good job.

    • @sbirdranch
      @sbirdranch  Před 6 lety

      thanks....I guess. I hope my style someday evolves into being less dry, but...until then, I'll continue to avoid the clown show. I promise no unnecessary drama. ~P

  • @andressaenz3896
    @andressaenz3896 Před 6 lety

    thank you a lot for your video.