Two Cheap, Chunky Pens: An artist's Review Of The Jinhao 9019, And The Wingsun 630.
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2023
- In this video I review of the very popular Jinhao "Dadao" 9019, and the Wingsun 630 from the perspective of artist that uses his fountain pens for drawing.
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I have both pens. I do not draw but do write extensively.
The 9019 is a joy to use. It is a lovely writer. I have had no issues with the width of the grip section. I do not have large hands but over the years my comfort has been with wider sections, probably from the creeping arthritis. I have had no tiring of the hand and certainly no writer's cramp. I enjoy the he increased capacity of the converter. Maintenance is simple and as you have shown, cleaning is easy with the rival of the nib and feed from the assembly. As for nib variety, you are correct. Right now all that available is XF, F, and M widths.
As for the 630, it is he closest I will ever get to a 149. Maintenance is relatively easy of you purchase the wrench which will remove the nib assembly and piston. No the section is not removable but the opening left by the removal of the nib assembly is fairly substantial. As for pulling the nib and feed, it can be done. Initially it is very difficult but soaking the assembly in water with a little soap will alleviate the issue. I have this pen with the gold nib. It is wetter than the usual steel nibs from Wingsung but not a gusher. The nib is very smooth.
To me both are keepers in my collection.
Thanks for the detailed comment. Comfort is a subjective thing, so I’m glad the 9019 is working for you. I’m sure with all the wear and tear, arthritis is in my future, so perhaps so are thicker pens.
I agree with your excellent and detailed review of both pens. Whilst not an artist, your requirements readily translate to anyone using a fountain pen. I have the 9019 which cost me all of $2.95 delivered from AliX. I find the size quite comfortable even though I do not have large hands, but then I don't write for 5 hours at a time. I've had the WingSung 630 in my cart for a couple of months, it's an excellent pen, but I just don't need another Fountain Pen and I don't want to buy it to sit in a drawer. Regardless, it will be my next purchase whenever that is for all the reasons you outline with the benefit of a piston filler (although with the 1.95 ml converter in the 9019 that's not such a big advantage).
Thank you! It’s really incredible how inexpensive some of these pens are. Let’s see how they hold up over the years. I have higher hopes for the 9019 than the x159.
1. Yay Jinhao for the jumbo converter. Yay Jinhao for constant innovation.
2. Excellent review.
3. I've been struggling with pens that seem to "dry up" after a few minutes of working fine. Then I start unconsciously pressing harder, jamming the nib with cut fibers. I suspect it might be the too-soft bristol sketchbook I am using. I'd toss it out, but I've got an ongoing series in it. Good excuse to work on lightening my touch.
1. They're really hitting it out of the park with their pen bodies. If only their nibs were better.
2. Thank you!
3. I keep a water brush nearby for that purpose. One pass of the brush over the nib and the pen will start right up.
Thank you for this review! And that tip about making nibs write wetter.
I was surprised that I like the 9019 even though I prefer small pens. I agree with what you said about it being so large that you're not gripping it tight. I like writing with it.
My pleasure! Comfort is completely subjective, so I'm sure there will be plenty of disagreement here.
Thanks for the reviews. I'll try the Jinhao x159, since I can't find any Wingsun 630 in my country.
By the way, consonants are usually silent at the end of French words,. So, Mont Blanc is pronounced "Mon Blan" ("t" and "c"' are silent). It means "White Mountain".
My pleasure! And thank you for the correction on the pronunciation.
Excellent review, very thorough.
Thank you!
Another excellent video. Nice to feel one of the chosen few too! Thanks for saving me some money as neither seem easily portable or suitable for the waterproof inks I use en plein air. ( I'm really trying not to become a pen collector .) Any suggestions for a cheap demonstrator with a fude nib ? Many thanks for brightening up my day with your company.
Thank you! The Majohn C1 can be bought with a fude nib.
Very good and useful video.
Thank you very much!
My pleasure!
Congratulations for such an excellent and information rich review. And I agree that the 9019 is indeed too large for extended use ... at least for me. You convinced me to get a wingsun 630 though.
Thank you!
Thanks for the video! I got 9019 for only one reason as i like big demonstrator with gold color accent pen 😂 The girth give no problem to me even i have a small hand and surprisingly smooth as my first X159 i owned, so i use 9019 to draw instead of X159 for now. Wishing Jinhao would make more of their 03 nib pen.
I’m glad you found the 9019 comfortable! Something about it bugged me, but these things come down to so many factors.
Amazing.
Thank you.
Thank you!
very nice review.
Thanks!
I still will get the 9019 eventually just to see what a very large pen feels like in use, my preference due to very small hands has been for much slimmer pens. Given my arthritis I'm told by others larger pens are better for them, so going to try it.
As I mentioned, I think the X159 (or the 630) has a more comfortable (yet still very wide) grip section.
@@mkompan current order is wing sung 992, Noodler's Nib Creeper, X159, then 9019. Figured I would get some tinkering pens to hone my tuning skills then larger pens.
mine 9019 M has great line variation!
I find that you can often get more line variation out a medium nib than a fine. I wonder why that is.
Excellent review, only two corrections:
1. all three feeds (MB, WS and Jinhao) have a diameter of 7mm, so not really #9
2. The Dadao 9019 is the size of the Namiki Yukari Royal, the Emperror is much larger and possibly impossible to really write with.
I was surprised you don't like the Q1, I thought the only real use for it would be for drawing, held like a lump of chalk or coal. especially with a fude nib, or using a pilot parallel nib unit (with the huge ink reservoir too...)
Thank you!
1. Nib numbers don't always correspond to the feed diameter. In this case #9 is the nomenclature used by Montblanc.
2. Thank you for the clarification on this one.
3. I actually like the Q! very much, and use it as you describe with a fude nib.
I should probably draw more with fountain pens. I like them a lot, but I have next to nothing to write with them! The only thing is that, with the line variation on a lot of stiff steel nibs, I may as well use a fibre-tipped liner.
Say, do you think a Zebra or Nikko G nib would fit well in the 9019? I once managed to cram one in a Jinhao x750, but it took a lot of pushing and adjusting. Even more in a Moonman M600. I wonder if going up a size or two in feed diamater would help?
Sorry, I've given up on experimenting with the Nikko G conversion. Even if you can get it to work, you have to remove the nib between use or it rusts and gets stuck in the housing.
Thanks, Marc! Please, dont stop buying this cheap chinese pens. Your comments and test are very helpful and a real shopping guide. And I bet that your students are happy with these pens later. New addicteds!
Have you ever tried the Jinhao 80? The L2k knock off? It's very good and has a 0.3 EF nib.
Thank you! I can't seem to make myself stop, so I guess these reviews will keep coming. :)
Love your videos. I've recently fallen back in love with fountain pens and am a self-confessed pen nerd. I have an X159 and experienced exactly what you describe at 7:45 in this video; namely dry and inconsistant lines. I would like to make the fix that you describe "pulling the shoulders of the nib back slightly." Could you do a short video just on this. I'd like to get it right the first time. I also don't have very much money and if I could make this $10 pen work a little wetter and less fine I would be delighted.
Thanks!
Thank you! I will be putting together a compendium of nib hacks which covers this, but in the meantime, here’s a video that covers how to do this:
czcams.com/video/Ig5cTFv4lXo/video.htmlsi=Xs6ItmKk5T1Ggwaa
Hi Marc, I watched the video you recommended and it worked great on my first try. The pen has just the right wettness. Thanks!
@@HagothVoyage glad it worked for you!
Hi Marc, thanks for the nice video ! I just received myJinhao 9019 from AliExpress but it is VERY dry like yours -- could you please clarify and possibly show what you did to solve the issue ?!? I am afraid of ruining the nib by doing something wrong...
I'll have to put together a compendium of hacks for adjusting a pen, but until then, here's how to do it.
czcams.com/video/Ks4Ity5cV0g/video.htmlsi=6GOVzoEnMFunazND
@@mkompan thank you for your kind reply, got it! now I have to find some brass sheets...
@@danielepagani I just realized I gave you the wrong link. Not that the instructions in the previous video are wrong, but this video shows a faster way, without using a brass shim, and was the method I used.
czcams.com/video/Ig5cTFv4lXo/video.htmlsi=TbG1o73lSG2Q85-N
My 9019 is great pen, wrote great out of the box and writes well. I do not draw, your art is nice. I love the large #8 nib, it was very surprising how large this pen is. I have small hands but it is something different to write with because the girth is so large. Little pens make my hands hurt coming from a Jotter, Cross ballpoint generation.
Thank for your comment. These things are so highly subjective that it’s almost pointless to discuss ergonomics. My hands are on the larger side, and yet the grip section is too wide for my taste. I’m curious to try the 9016, the slightly smaller version of this pen.
@@mkompan I don't believe most large handed people would like this too much.
I actually prefer the 9019 to the x159 ... due to the converter. I do find my EF is more reliable for drawing than the F ... but I haven't swapped around the inks I have in them to see what that would do.
I love that converter! Maybe the x159 with come with it some day.
Very useful and amazing review. Appreciate your efforts & time for sharing. So, out of your collections 9019 is the fattiest guy? I'm looking for a stout masculine pen. Can I go for this? Howmuch fat it's compared to normal fountain pens (I do see the comparison at 2:21 but still checking with you to know in real-time)?
Thank you. The width of the grip section on the 9019 is a bout 1.4 cm. Given that most fountain pen grip sections are about 1 cm, that's a big difference. There's no way to tell whether this will be comfortable for you other than to try it, but since these are inexpensive pens, I think you should just go for it.
@@mkompan Thank you for your response. I also want to extend my appreciation for the effort and time you dedicated to reviewing for us. Please continue with your valuable contributions.
@@VijayKumar01234 You're very welcome. More content like this to come!
The 9019 is a great writer's pen because of its huge ink capacity, perfect for long writing sessions. The girth hasn't bothered me, but I realize that it might not work for all hands, in which case the X159 is indeed a good alternative. Now, if you can afford it without going into debt, buy a Montblanc 149, perhaps the best pen in the world, or certainly a contender for that title. It is rather overpriced, but authentic MB's are often available for reasonable prices on the used pen market. Despite having a 149, though, I like the 9019 as a daily workhorse, and for travel (so as not to risk loss of the 149). It suffers from a kind of clattering sound (the vibration perhaps of the converter against the plastic barrel?), and I do not think it will last a lifetime, but for the price, it is astonishing.
I do have a MB 149 (with a broken piston rod) and I agree it's a fantastic pen (or in my case a dip pen) in terms of dimensions, weight and ergonomics. However the build quality, at least on mine, is suspect for a pen of that price. Despite all the brass parts that make the pen seem sturdy, the piston rod (the only part that needs to take abuse) is made of a frail plastic. And the cost of repair is prohibitive.
@@mkompan oh, I'm sorry to hear this. Makes me worry about my own MB pisron rods. How ironic that both your $10 jinhao and $1,000 mb both broke!!!!
Great review! I love my Jinhao pens, and the fatter the better. I use all my pens for journaling and occasionally use them for ink and wash art. I just got my Dadao and I have to say it’s very comfy in my hand. I have long fingers and just like my fat tire e-bike, I am more concerned with comfort than showing off how much I paid. None of my friends and family are pen enthusiasts, so spending a ton of cash on a fancy name does me no favors. A Jinhao is a good option when you like the pens, collect several colors and sizes, and if they break, no biggie.
Could you not swap out the #8 Jinhao nib for a #8 in another brand?
Thanks! Comfort is a very subjective thing and I can see why so many people are enamored with it. The nib has some cutouts at the base, so I’m pretty sure it can’t be switched with a #8 from a different brand.
@@mkompan yes, after watching your video, I looked on Amazon and saw a 3 pack of Jinhao #8s for about $12 US. It seems like a buttery smooth pen, so I loving it so far. I’m not rough on my pens though.
I find large pens actually helps my writing, being left handed.
Good to know!
I think you have what Peter Draws has, and that is "One Pen Syndrome" when making a "draw wing".
Never heard of the "One Pen Syndrome." is it incurable, contagious, and fatal? :) Does it refer to some strange impulse to only use only one pen in a drawing? I actually often use more than one pen when I draw, but remember I'm doing pen reviews here.
@@mkompan Alas, for poor 'One Pen Peter' it is too late, as he seems to have a phobia of using 2 different pens in the same drawing.
I appreciate your hypocrisy! I agree with your takes in this video overall, but I would much rather have the Wingsung over the Eco. Neither is designed for switching inks frequently but the Wingsung is built out of materials that should last a lot longer than the Eco.
My ECO's have been with me for quite some time, and have endured a lot of use. Whether the Wingsun 630 will last remains to be seen. I haven't been able to remove the nib and feed from the, so the ECO remains the easier pen to clean.