This episode was up there with the original frasier episodes.. really good. I've been watching frasier most days for about 10 years, as it's shown every day in the uk, and fits right in..
My best friend and I spent a week in Manchester about five months ago and watched FRASIER almost every morning after waking up. I was like, "We're on vacation, and watching an American TV show..." both of us, of course, being from the U.S. And then, GOGGLEBOX every night before bed. I do miss that show.
Because it is a copy of a season 7 episode from the original! Far less nuanced...there was a reason they couldn't outright talk it through in the original. Here it's just an obvious plot device...
The Gospel, which means the Good News is the news that God Almighty, the Creator came in the flesh as Jesus Christ to take away the sin of the world. The one God is a trinity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son came and laid down his own life to save ours. His sacrifice on the cross paid the price for our redemption with his own blood. On the third day he rose from dead and offers the gift of salvation and forgiveness to those that repent and trust in him. John 1:1,14 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, 1 John 3:8 KJV He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT. John 3:18 KJV He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
This act was approaching the level of the original show. The writing was veru nuanced, it developed in stages, there was a great pay out at the end, but the foundation was two strong characters.
I disagree. For starters, June was clearly being indecisive earlier and playing both men. She knew she was there for one guy, but went for the other. In the original show, at some point, someone would've pointed up that obvious point and called her out, and Frasier would've been relieved that for once it wasn't his fault. And secondly, Sioban wasn't *into* Frasier - it was a blind date! This was just cliche sitcom writing, with none of the original series' freshness or observational wit.
There is still hope ... Kelsey Grammer is obviously capable of learning. Please do this more often, then the series could get its act together. And, of course, guest appearances by the old stars.
@@mccloaker Like you know anything about writing. You come up with a problem that isn't a problem and then pretend the old show wouldn't have done that when they did it all the time.
Was pleasantly surprised with episode 1 of the new series but it has gone steadily downhill since . Other than Frasier I cannot get myself to like any of the other characters. Stuck with it until half way through episode 6 ( more of out of loyalty than anything else ) but that is enough for me .
I hear you. It's breaking my heart. The only reason this episode started to look good was that they retread the "rivals" episode from the original series
I didn’t like Frasier’s behaviour at the end especially since towards the end of Series 11 and so far in Series 12 up until this episode he’s matured and stopped being his womaniser / self saboteur / celebrity / snobby persona. He became his compassionate, kind, vulnerable , wanting to help people persona we all love. I love how Freddie learned the art of Psychiatry from Lilith, Frasier, Niles, Martin, Daphne, Eve and through his job over the last 12 series. Frasier has been hard on him for not going to Harvard, Freddie showing him that you don’t need to degree to read people. In fact you just need to live life, like as a Firefighter working with public. It’s what made Martin such a great character.
The best part of the original Fraiser is that every person grew/matured, including Fraiser himself at the very end. This undoes all of that. Now its just sad, not funny.
Numbers 6:24-26 [24]The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: [25]The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: [26]The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
I dont get it, June was still technically there to go out with Freddy, he could have just said 'see you later' and start his date with Siobhan if he liked her more
It wouldn't have happened. I get not wanting to go to Harvard or be a psychiatrist when there were three of them around him growing up but no kid would change this much.
I think this is the funniest one of the new series. His gestures and some wording sounds like the old frasier. Some don't like this new show but I am giving it time and adjusting to it, I look at it as a completely new show and stop comparing it to the old frasier show.
Come on. You know even the golden bachelor is going to dump his senior citizen date and chase after younger women after he gets paid. All men want younger women.
Jacqueline Obradors is 57 and Peri Gilpin is 62. Wow, those Hollywood makeup, hair, and wardrobe people really have perfected their techniques over the years, making elderly women look good for a short while.
Those women are not elderly by any measure. They are mature and refined and both are smoking hot for their age. Particularly Jacqueline. She is pretty, what ever surgery or not she may have had, she is pretty and you could take the makeup off and she would still be pretty and she has an exceptional body for her age.
I watch the full Frasier series every year or two.....seriously. So I will not watch this at all since only Frasier is there and not all those great amazing characters who took it to eleven seasos.
I’m not liking the new season so I don’t disagree with you. But Frasier started as a spin off with only one main character from Cheers so I can see why he thought it was possible
"Osso Buco" is an Italian dish from the Lombardy region, of which Milan is the capital. "Bucco" with two-Cs is Italian for "cheek". The Hungarian version of "Osso Buco" is a veal-based cousin of goulash called "Borjúpörkölt".
Why don't you move on instead of typing this repetitive comment. Get a life and stop being such a negative Nancy. Find something that brings you happiness in life and focus on that instead of fixating on something that you don't like. Don't allow yourself to wallow in your own misery when there is so much out there to enjoy.
(0:28) Is it just me or are there two different types of wallpaper in that entryway? (1:38) "Do I smell Osso Buco?" followed immediately by the exposition is SUPER clumsy. Also, how does she know it's Osso Buco and not just, you know, veal? Can she smell the marrow dissolving? Does he really want to date a woman who knows what dissolving bone marrow SMELLS like from about 100 feet away? I don't mind telling you--I think this is a red flag. (1:44) I really need Frasier to fix his collar. It's that way for 75% of this episode. (1:46) "la-scal-la" is how the Americans pronounce it. People who speak and/or sing there pronounce it "tay-atro al-la sca-la". (3:10) First of all, this conversation isn't happening in real life as Frasier is so wealthy he bought this building on a lark and tossed out the guy in Apartment "A" for funsies. They're not going to be pissed. Second, why is June pissed at Freddy--the guy she was there to meet in the first place? Third, your face, Violetta, is staring into the boundless cleavage of a softball-throwing art passionnée while you bemoan the depths of the male libido. Fourth, Freddy was going to take June out anyway. Why didn't he just--agree--to that upon which he had already decided? And finally, why on Earth is this prima donna, who has known world-renown television personality Frasier Crane for exactly one hallway conversation, flying into a jealous rage?
The wallpaper where the stairs are in Frasier's apartment is absolutely loud and obnoxious looking, it looks like vertical ink blots, I mean this is some really ugly wallpaper.
Sadly, the Fraser re-boot is looking like all 3 atrociously bad, one-note sitcoms that Lucille Ball did after the “I Love Lucy” show, which, like all successful sitcoms was an ensemble effort with 4-5 good actors playing off of one another with good storyline scripts. The result was Lucille Ball doing silly “bits” and trying to be funny all by herself, and failing miserably. Kelsey seems in the same boat here, surrounded by weak actors and weak scripts, trying(way too hard, as with Lucy) to be funny all alone. This is so depressing. But in any event, I’ll keep bingeing all 11 seasons of the original Fraser, and try to forget this sad silliness…🫣🎭😖
Unfortunately, I have to agree. I really wanted to like this show. I went into it knowing it wouldn't be like the original but had high hopes. This particular episode was absolutely my favorite one so far. Maybe my expectations were too high. I'll still watch the entire season to see if it picks up but I'm not looking forward to it.
Gotta admit one thing about Frasier Crane - he can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
So the high is in that both women want Frasier… There is no follow through for him. It’ll always be a letdown. How thick can you get?
Snatch, I was involved in a rather long conversation about that word this morning
😂😂😂
Like no other
😂😂😂
I loved that he finally brought back "oh dear god"
“Come join me in the kitchen” classic Frasier
GOD! ... Did we ever miss Frasier and his Neuroses! ... Particularly now in these neurotic times!
and it never changes. years later and his issues with women are still the same lol
I like it. People just want to moan about everything. But Niles will never be topped
This episode was up there with the original frasier episodes.. really good. I've been watching frasier most days for about 10 years, as it's shown every day in the uk, and fits right in..
My best friend and I spent a week in Manchester about five months ago and watched FRASIER almost every morning after waking up. I was like, "We're on vacation, and watching an American TV show..." both of us, of course, being from the U.S. And then, GOGGLEBOX every night before bed. I do miss that show.
Because it is a copy of a season 7 episode from the original! Far less nuanced...there was a reason they couldn't outright talk it through in the original. Here it's just an obvious plot device...
The Gospel, which means the Good News is the news that God Almighty, the Creator came in the flesh as Jesus Christ to take away the sin of the world. The one God is a trinity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son came and laid down his own life to save ours. His sacrifice on the cross paid the price for our redemption with his own blood. On the third day he rose from dead and offers the gift of salvation and forgiveness to those that repent and trust in him.
John 1:1,14 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us,
1 John 3:8 KJV
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT.
John 3:18 KJV
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
So hoping for a season 2.
canned laughter is so sad.
I've tried really hard to like this but it's just not funny - it's not on the same planet as the original by such a huge margin. So sad.
Agree!
agree
The fact that 68 year old Frasier can still get Jaqueline Obradors as a date is itself worthy of praise.
You know he's rich and famous, right?
Bring back Niles and Daphne
Still don't see it.
The audience with this show are a lot more reactive than in 'Frasier'
'I'm an Opera singer"
Audience: 'Wooooooo!'
The Producers banned wooping and cheering on the original Frasier because they felt it cheapened the show.
The more things change the more they stay the same. Frasier hasn't grown at all. I love that about him
Loved the original eleven series. But this new series is so poorly written. It’s all so forced. I can’t watch anymore.
This act was approaching the level of the original show. The writing was veru nuanced, it developed in stages, there was a great pay out at the end, but the foundation was two strong characters.
I disagree. For starters, June was clearly being indecisive earlier and playing both men. She knew she was there for one guy, but went for the other. In the original show, at some point, someone would've pointed up that obvious point and called her out, and Frasier would've been relieved that for once it wasn't his fault. And secondly, Sioban wasn't *into* Frasier - it was a blind date!
This was just cliche sitcom writing, with none of the original series' freshness or observational wit.
There is still hope ... Kelsey Grammer is obviously capable of learning. Please do this more often, then the series could get its act together. And, of course, guest appearances by the old stars.
@@mccloaker Like you know anything about writing. You come up with a problem that isn't a problem and then pretend the old show wouldn't have done that when they did it all the time.
Hahahaha that felt like old fraiser.
i think i just saw a similar ep when frasier thinks he getting gifts
Its good.😂 its very good.
Ive been watching Frasier since tge beginning years ago and i love this episode. Please keep up the good work.
This was an episode from series 7....
So the high is in that both women want Frasier… There is no follow through for him. It’ll always be a letdown. How thick can you get?
do women tihs young want 70 y old men? possibly impotent?
Just like the song says she looks good to me she's got everything I want she's got everything I need
Was pleasantly surprised with episode 1 of the new series but it has gone steadily downhill since . Other than Frasier I cannot get myself to like any of the other characters. Stuck with it until half way through episode 6 ( more of out of loyalty than anything else ) but that is enough for me .
I hear you. It's breaking my heart. The only reason this episode started to look good was that they retread the "rivals" episode from the original series
😂 frasier always screws it up!
yep lol, almost 70 years old and has not learned anything lol
Jacqueline Obradors is as lovely as she was in NYPD Blue.
Frazier is too old to be f’ing around.
he did not age well. so so old, his voice does not sound right, sounds like a 90 y old man, sorry Kelsey
I didn’t like Frasier’s behaviour at the end especially since towards the end of Series 11 and so far in Series 12 up until this episode he’s matured and stopped being his womaniser / self saboteur / celebrity / snobby persona. He became his compassionate, kind, vulnerable , wanting to help people persona we all love. I love how Freddie learned the art of Psychiatry from Lilith, Frasier, Niles, Martin, Daphne, Eve and through his job over the last 12 series. Frasier has been hard on him for not going to Harvard, Freddie showing him that you don’t need to degree to read people. In fact you just need to live life, like as a Firefighter working with public. It’s what made Martin such a great character.
Yeah he did stop being a self saboteur, but with Frasier and Charlotte breaking up after 20 years, that's going to affect him.
He's back on the block many, many years later as an old man. Frasier needs to know 100% what the final answer is.
Hahahaha Frasier will never change. :)
The shrinks sure can lure them in....
Can’t stand Freddy.
Same. Thought it was just me
The best part of the original Fraiser is that every person grew/matured, including Fraiser himself at the very end. This undoes all of that. Now its just sad, not funny.
It's just the hack writers plagiarising an old series 7 episode and hoping we won't notice
@@lenawagenfuehr53 but we did notice!
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Realty craps on your theory.
I think finally we get the franetic Donald duck behaviour of Fraiser of old..... This is the way forward.. 👍❤️
Jacqueline Obradors ... YES PLEASE
looking good..
I am looking for Frasier
Numbers 6:24-26
[24]The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
[25]The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
[26]The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
i love frasier new look he's looks relaxed ❤❤❤❤❤
It’s like Seinfeld. Dating girls out of their league, Television.
too old for those kind of chicks
@@a.d.7922oh yeah cuz hot women never go after rich older men lol
I dont get it, June was still technically there to go out with Freddy, he could have just said 'see you later' and start his date with Siobhan if he liked her more
LOVE FRASIER!!!! I get excited when another episode appears on my screen.
How did nerdy Freddy become hunky outdoor Freddy? I am asking, did only see extract from the new series
I agree and think the same thing. Freddy really did a real 360 turn about, from one personality to another.
It wouldn't have happened. I get not wanting to go to Harvard or be a psychiatrist when there were three of them around him growing up but no kid would change this much.
The same way any men do. He worked.
@@debra2700 Pretty much every kid changes this much.
I think this is the funniest one of the new series. His gestures and some wording sounds like the old frasier. Some don't like this new show but I am giving it time and adjusting to it, I look at it as a completely new show and stop comparing it to the old frasier show.
🙄 this was a copy of an episode from the original series. Nothing new here.
@@lenawagenfuehr53 Exactly. Everyone is so desperate for nostalgia that they're trying desperately to find it in this joke of a reboot.
canned laughter ? 🤢he's a bit old still chasing the younger woman...
Come on. You know even the golden bachelor is going to dump his senior citizen date and chase after younger women after he gets paid. All men want younger women.
@@jospenner9503 if they all want younger women does not mean they can get younger women. Younger women have younger guys to choose from.
@@a.d.7922Tell that to all the younger women with all the old rich dudes all over California alone
Jacqueline Obradors is 57 and Peri Gilpin is 62. Wow, those Hollywood makeup, hair, and wardrobe people really have perfected their techniques over the years, making elderly women look good for a short while.
Those women are not elderly by any measure. They are mature and refined and both are smoking hot for their age. Particularly Jacqueline. She is pretty, what ever surgery or not she may have had, she is pretty and you could take the makeup off and she would still be pretty and she has an exceptional body for her age.
😂😂😂😂😂
Just not anywhere close to funny, at all. I love the years ago Frasier, this isn't time worthy.
Best episode so far!
No !
oof
I watch the full Frasier series every year or two.....seriously. So I will not watch this at all since only Frasier is there and not all those great amazing characters who took it to eleven seasos.
I know. It's not the same. Frasier (the original) is a masterpiece
It says a lot when you come back as the only remaining original character, this is an ego, personal issue, very sad Kelsey, move on
exactly. and those scenes with younger women? he is too old for that, looks unnatural, sorry Kelsey.
@@a.d.7922omg your an obsessed troll, gross lmao
he wanted the, all back, they didn't want to, dip shit
*side-show Bob*
0:35
0:26
Hhhoooooowwwwwwwww daarrreeee you
Just stop
When you come back to a reboot with only the original character, it is an ego issue. This is awful
I'm afraid that you are absolutely spot on in this case. So, so sad 😔
So true.
agree
You showed us that someone has an ego issue.
I’m not liking the new season so I don’t disagree with you. But Frasier started as a spin off with only one main character from Cheers so I can see why he thought it was possible
Still got it!
Why? This is just bad, forced humor
What does osso bucco to do with Milan? Osso bucco is Hungarian dish😅
"Osso Buco" is an Italian dish from the Lombardy region, of which Milan is the capital. "Bucco" with two-Cs is Italian for "cheek". The Hungarian version of "Osso Buco" is a veal-based cousin of goulash called "Borjúpörkölt".
You would think people would take two seconds to google something instead of typing it out like a fact 🙄
Thanks for setting the record straight
@@lenawagenfuehr53 My pleasure. Anyone can ask me any question they like and I'm more than happy to answer it.
Move on Grammar
Why don't you move on instead of typing this repetitive comment. Get a life and stop being such a negative Nancy. Find something that brings you happiness in life and focus on that instead of fixating on something that you don't like. Don't allow yourself to wallow in your own misery when there is so much out there to enjoy.
Awful, this whole thing seems to be about getting Grammar a job, terrible idea, not funny
hey incel...guess what?? don't watch it!
@@aiai-j7i So, by giving an honest opinion, you then label them an 'incel' !??? Grow up
@@paulfromdevon4707this weirdo has spammed the comments with hate and you're defending him. Birds of a feather,I guess.
@@rockycvs3 Eh?????
(0:28) Is it just me or are there two different types of wallpaper in that entryway?
(1:38) "Do I smell Osso Buco?" followed immediately by the exposition is SUPER clumsy. Also, how does she know it's Osso Buco and not just, you know, veal? Can she smell the marrow dissolving? Does he really want to date a woman who knows what dissolving bone marrow SMELLS like from about 100 feet away? I don't mind telling you--I think this is a red flag.
(1:44) I really need Frasier to fix his collar. It's that way for 75% of this episode.
(1:46) "la-scal-la" is how the Americans pronounce it. People who speak and/or sing there pronounce it "tay-atro al-la sca-la".
(3:10) First of all, this conversation isn't happening in real life as Frasier is so wealthy he bought this building on a lark and tossed out the guy in Apartment "A" for funsies. They're not going to be pissed. Second, why is June pissed at Freddy--the guy she was there to meet in the first place? Third, your face, Violetta, is staring into the boundless cleavage of a softball-throwing art passionnée while you bemoan the depths of the male libido. Fourth, Freddy was going to take June out anyway. Why didn't he just--agree--to that upon which he had already decided? And finally, why on Earth is this prima donna, who has known world-renown television personality Frasier Crane for exactly one hallway conversation, flying into a jealous rage?
The wallpaper where the stairs are in Frasier's apartment is absolutely loud and obnoxious looking, it looks like vertical ink blots, I mean this is some really ugly wallpaper.
Sadly, the Fraser re-boot is looking like all 3 atrociously bad, one-note sitcoms that Lucille Ball did after the “I Love Lucy” show, which, like all successful sitcoms was an ensemble effort with 4-5 good actors playing off of one another with good storyline scripts. The result was Lucille Ball doing silly “bits” and trying to be funny all by herself, and failing miserably. Kelsey seems in the same boat here, surrounded by weak actors and weak scripts, trying(way too hard, as with Lucy) to be funny all alone. This is so depressing. But in any event, I’ll keep bingeing all 11 seasons of the original Fraser, and try to forget this sad silliness…🫣🎭😖
agree
Unfortunately, I have to agree. I really wanted to like this show. I went into it knowing it wouldn't be like the original but had high hopes. This particular episode was absolutely my favorite one so far. Maybe my expectations were too high. I'll still watch the entire season to see if it picks up but I'm not looking forward to it.
Just like the song says she looks good to me she's got everything I want she's got everything I need