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I once worked for a company that felt that the work was for unskilled staff and that they felt that there was no need to pay a shift allowance for that. Fortunately, I am a member of a trade union and they also found this very funny. I therefore received an additional payment after dismissal and now the staff also receives the 12.5% surcharge for 2 shifts. So yes you certainly have rights in the Netherlands and these types of companies are fortunately punished.
This is one of the reasons I enjoy being Dutch. Many people will complain that the salaries in Europe are lower than those in the US, and that's true. But we very much get "our money's worth". I don't need to worry about being fired for nonsensical reasons, and I generally have more free time compared to American workers in similar positions. That is worth more than the difference in salary could ever make up for. Especially once you consider that we can live very comfortably on those salaries, because most essential things aren't quite as expensive over here, as compared to the US.
We can only hope the US starts implementing similar laws to protect their employees, because it's really not getting any better.
They think they get paid more and indeed receive a bit more... However. If they sign for 40 hours/week they actually do 50-60 a lot of unpaid overtime... If my boss wants something to be outside contract hours he actually is required by law to pay me.... So i come in at 8.45 drink coffee till 8.58am. Fire up my workspace computer and work till 6pm and sign off. I don't have to work a minute extra but fine if takes 5-10 minutes no biggie...If my boss actually needs me to do overtime i don't make much less then americans doing the same work especially not if you concider we have unlimted sick leave and can stay at home till better up to a YEAR while you cannot be fired. And if i include up to 6 weeks PAID vacantion time + 8% year salary vacantion money.
Love Jovie's Home! She's great and funny! :) Would be great to see more of your reactions to her posts.
The Court actually started out by saying that the ‘employment at will’ contract was not valid under Dutch law. In The Netherlands, employees have REAL contracts, that come with strong protections against unfair dismissal. So the Court just applied Dutch labor law standards instead. It then went on to conclude that the employee had a right to privacy under article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which the employer must respect under the ‘act as a fair employer’ obligation in the Dutch Civil Code. By the way, the same article states that employees must act as dutiful employees, so in the end it is a legal balancing test. This verdict is a reminder that the low American labor standards have no legal effect in Europe. The sad truth is probably that the person who fired this Dutch employee was an American employee who had an ‘employment at will’ contract him-/herself, and thus has less protection than that Dutch employee. That employment at will system cascades down the corporate pyramid, ensuring that all employees do as the big boss wants at the detriment of the guy or girl at the lowest level of the pyramid working their *ss off. It’s ‘corporate slavery’ disguised as a ‘contract’. And Americans accept it. :(
Facebook lost a lawsuit filed against them in 2016, when a Dutch facebook user demanded that data be released because facebook had refused to do so.
Brilliant,that court did that , stand up for the employee and put the American company in its place and make them compensate the employee. Good that this was done to a company that thinks their ( in this case)American way is the way to deal with employees here,that way is just not how it works here in the Netherlands❤
that's not the court's task. the court's task it to apply the law. and that is what was done. nothing more, nothing less. it would be a very very bad thing when the court stands up for someone. ever heard of trias politica?
@@taurusnltaurusnl4686 but you do not get it. The court upheld the law and therefor did do what they should have since the American company did not
@@annemieverhoeven2566 and now you said it correctly.... "upheld the law"
That is why Americans come to our country and love to be here. Just like Sam, that i met last monday at TV studio (from CZcams channel Exploring the Foreign)
Justice was already here (Netherlands) before the 1st lawyer set foot in the Americas ? 🤔
We don't play in the Netherlands 🤣
💜your reactions brother. 🌷
Justice is served!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Americans always talk about freedom, but most are owned by the company’s they work for ,
Love the Nightwatch and orange shirt Mr half Dutchie😂😂😂
De nachtwacht..you can not translate that
America! So far behind real civilization!
in europe it works in a way, you trust your employee to do their job unsupervised..
I once worked for an American company that required i keep a camera on me to record all of my actions throughout the working day so one day i took it to the John with me guess what? They sued me😂😂😂
Ah, purportedly the land of the free but actually the land of Big Brother.
Amen 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
That's why Walmart failed in Europe.
Goed gedaan, well done!!
I've worked for 3 different American companies in the NL, but never again
Since the downfall of trade unions, the rise and evergrowing influence of big companies within the political system, the cross breeding between political and company lobby groups, the power has been shifted greatly towards a big corporate America to do whatever they want. They want to treat their employers as "slaves" working for minimum wages. All to increase the profit and keeping the shareholders happy. It is time to get back to an independent political system. It is time to put big corporate US to it's obligation to keep the men at work, under good decent wages and paid hollidays.
I feel sorry for all Americans who work in such conditions. As a Dutchy i can tell you are really protected by law and even if you do something the companies don't like, they have to build a reasonable dossier over time before they can even think about firing you.
Losing your job ,because you are stick, is here almost inpassible !!!
I follow her to, she is a sweet woman
seems
I came across Jovi on Tinder, not sure what she was up to or it was a fake account. 😅
Could be real, could be fake. She did divorce her husband (this is on her YT btw, so I'm not spouting private info).
Maybe she wanted some fun but somehow she doesn't feel like the Tinder type to me from her videos.
So they closed their business in The Netherlands and may think to set up shop in another EU country. Well, the same is going to happen.
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Oh and I have done re-integration work in a place where everybody was being filmed the whole time. There was even a camera aimed directly at my working place. I already highly doubted that that was legal but fighting against it felt too much for me when I was in that state of recovery.
That took a hell of a lot of doing though.
did it?
Maybe courts in the US won't be on your side, but I thought that the US also has privacy laws that everyone, whether individual people or organizations, still must uphold. Now I guess that you basically have to be 'the highest bidder' to get the court's support, or in other words, the one who can pay the most money to make their case can 'buy' their rights. Everything for the profit, even for judges, right?
Unfortunately, there's not as much sweet sunshine as far as work or other human rights in the Netherlands are concerned. Those who have to serve and uphold the constitutional laws in the Netherlands still commit classifications, profiling and ignoring equality for people based on people's personal ethnic, financial, gender, religious or medical (especially including impairments, disabilities, disorders and other anomalies) status. People employed at social working companies specialized in guiding with people with certain psysical or mental problems are still considered a 'lower class' than employees at regular companies. Even big parts of the Dutch government still discuss why people who are different from the government's 'ideal citizen', especially physical and mentally impaired and disabled people should be allowed to earn the same amount of salary as all others, or should even work at all because they don't contribute much or enough to the national cause anyway. A person like me, for example, won't be taken seriously about their individual rights or opinion as much as an average citizen, because I have some problems too. And it gets even worse. It's those impairments or disabilities that are considered to be the reasons for the fact that they don't agree and thus can't be taken seriously. There is still much hiarchy on who is more important, based on the person themselves. And even the whole Dutch law system (court, police, etc.) will take profit of their position to sort people into levels of classes. I'm stating this because this is not shown to the world that believes that the Dutch handle human equality and rights just great. That is just not true. More and more people who can't contribute enough to the national cause and therefor are obstacles for the country, according to political influencers, are tossed aside. This also includes the elderly and retired people. They just don't need us and we are in their way.
F Citizens United!!
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Very strange!
Its the fault from the mother and still mcD has to pay
And it takes only 8 euros a month to be assured for it, in the Netherlands. But, dont tell other Americans, remember. The US is still the greatest country in the world.
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Unfortunately Dutch tax authorities will knock on the door for part of the amount. 😏
Wat denk jij nu .of vindt jij dat mensen met veel geld .Recht op toeslagen hebben..Trouwens je mag best veel hebben
There is always one with a negative reaction..😂
I thought immediate at TRUMP (YOU'RE FIRED) do you remember ?
But this also has a flip side in which employees take advantage of laws, dont get me wrong i love my country for protecting us like this but:
When corona hit we in the restaurants needed to close, my boss at the time was a good man. He didnt fire any of us, while certainly within legal rights to do so.
His exact words were i’d rather go down knowing you can all pay your bills, than to know my staff cant afford rent and bills and get thrown out their house.
There was this relatively new girl working with us, she had a zero hour contract, meaning she didnt have a fixed salary.
My boss still made monthly payments to her, for no work, without any obligation to do so during the pandemic.
After the pandemic she said she still had unpaid over time.
Boss said he wasnt going to pay that since he still payed her throughout the pandemic.
She sued, and won. Boss had to pay her overtime hours anyway, which were just a few hours and he got a fine.
So yeah im totally for these laws who protect us the employee, but its really easy for people to take advantage of them too
It doesn't seem fair, and the judges may have felt like she was a biatch, but the letter of the law is with her. If I leave a 500K tip at a restaurant but then don't pay for my food the next time and just bail, they are still justified in calling the cops on me, even if they had massive net gains because of me. Live and die by the contract. A lot of people are good, but get papered up assuming they're the worst. "Surely I won't need evidence of the state I got my apartment in, my landlord seems like a nice guy' And then when you leave they claim all kinds of stuff and send you a large bill. The fact he didn't have to pay her and essentially sent her gifts didn't dissolve his obligations. She sounds like a POS, but legally I get why she won.
Completely understand the court ruling. There are other ways of confirming that an employee working from home is actually working. My employer could pull reports showing every account I touched and what I did to it. The Dutch court, on the other hand, by making the penalties so punitive, the cost all of the Dutch employees of that company their jobs. They showed the American company that they were the boss, gave a huge boost to the employee who protested, but left who knows how many Dutch families without an income.
they are really not without, they are entitled to benefits and 70 percent of a salary that high is a nice one. This is the law:
You are entitled to one month of unemployment benefits for every year of employment (thats all of your working years, not only with this conpany) But: do you have more than 10 years of employment history? Then from the 11th year of employment you will receive an additional half month of unemployment benefit per year of employment.
I don't understand what you mean with that last bit. They still have rights if a company backs out of a the country. Besides that they have right to ww (unemployment law) and won't be without income for a long while and have time to find other jobs.
"My employer could pull reports showing every account I touched and what I did to it." This is in accordance with data protection laws (NEN7510 mainly), not so much for checking if you do your work or not.
If they withdrew from the Netherlands any and all other employees they laid off would fall under 'unfair termination' and thus they'd also get fined for that, and each employee would get that much. Meaning I can't imagine there were other employees, or all their contracts were 'bought off' like ABN AMRO had to do many years ago. (ABN had a long running department and they had to pay like 1 1/2 month wages per employee in termination bonus.) So I wouldn't worry about the Dutch families, if there even were any others, Jovie kinda made it sound like this guy was the only person working for them in the Netherlands.
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Wow.... Between 70000 and 75000 euros and then all those things she didn't mention with a specific price on top of that....
Some people want the American dream but listening to this people want the Dutch dream now 😂😂😂 (and now I know why all those people want to live and work in the Netherlands and why our country is so full of foreigners 😑😑😑)
Part of the reason is we asked for them to come (Turks and Moroccans), Humanitarian (Ukrainians, Bosnians, Venezuelans) and because we helped bomb their homeland (Iraqis, Afghanis, Syrians). Then there's of course others from the Schengen area and whatever doesn't fall in any of those 4 general categories (Invited, refugees, our fault and other Europeans) isn't that big of a percentage of the population.
'corrective action program' sounds very orwellian to me
Why would.anybody wanna live in America??