Rabbi Sacks on 'The Home We Build Together'
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2018
- How do you sustain a cohesive society in the midst of unprecedented religious and ethnic diversity? How, in an age of mass migration, do you integrate minorities without destroying their identity or losing yours? That's a key issue facing the West today. So let's look at how societies have dealt with it in the past and where they went wrong.
This lecture should be required in all general education programs in the first semester of college. It is way better than anything I have come across. I will keep this model in my tool kit from here on out. Your construction metaphor really nailed it.
I cannot speak for other countries. However, in the United States:
1. Real Americans despise the hyphen. We know that you are what you are _as an individual._ Yet collectively, we are Americans. We've found that some people just don't want to belong.
2. Subsequently, we have a dual role as a nation: to be the home of different individuals while simultaneously keep a foundation that protects those very rights.
We have firmly established that although one is free to practice religion and cultural gestures individually, we must insist on a level policy of assimilation if the nation as a whole is to survive. It isn't perfect, but compared to the rest of the country, it's clearly the best. The fact of so many flocking to come here is rather strong proof.
However, the US really does fall under the good Rabbi's title of "The Home We Build Together." And if it doesn't look like the model presented above, it's only because the people don't want it that way. This idea doesn't take into account the _individual_ belief, only the social idea.
Rabbi Sacks always inspirational.
This is what an English Rabbi choose to protray my country. I say to him pick - up a weapon and follow me.
He is a bullshitter
A good theory, if people weren't people, and if this were another world.
Thank you for this vision, Rabbi.
הרב חסר מאוד כל דבריו מתוק מדבש .אוהב אותו וגישתו אהבה רבה
Excellent teaching, thank you very much.
Rabbi, you've proposed a good model for skilled immigration. All those builders you referred to are happy to build, but the project needs to be funded. The difference between skilled and unskilled immigration is that the unskilled immigrant has no chance to fund such a project, so the funding must then come from the State. And in fact before we opened the borders to mass unskilled immigration this was exactly what immigration looked like in Canada where I live. Many people came from many places and did successfully integrate this way. The rule of the day was that someone could come to Canada as long as they didn't wind up on the welfare roles. Today, they are brought to Canada specifically to go directly onto the welfare roles, where the overwhelming majority remain today. It was this foolish tinkering with a working system that has led to the breakdown of relations between the native-born Canadian and the now-segregated immigrants. And it was driven by the arrogance of a new Left that thought they could redesign such a system based on effusive compassion alone. What you've proposed will work well when the immigrants are skilled and self-funding, but will lead to civic unrest when they are unskilled and on the dole. You aren't covering new territory; we already knew that. The more salient problem is how we displace the starry-eyed fools who now hold the reins of power, and who don't listen to rabbis.
TofeldianSage You are making up facts. Where is this this group of crazed leftists bringing people in specifically to go on welfare? Even certain quantities of unskilled labour are good for an economy - and no economist worth listening to can delineate the line clearly. Asylum seekers and organising to integrate refugees are a core part of Canadian identity. To make up facts, to not welcome the refugee, to not accommodate are un-Jewish as well.
@@acchaladka, I wish it were not so, but our government lied to us. 3 years ago they started a program to bring in 'Syrian refugees' in a great spasm of national compassion. And very close to where I live the government rented hundreds and hundreds of apartments on their behalf. I see these people every day, walking the streets endlessly because they have nothing else to do. They sit in the Tim Horton's for hours on end. Working people dash in and grab their coffee and donut, but these people stay all day because they are idle. And acchaladka, look at their complexion: they are not from Syria. We were lied to. They are not refugees. They are not seeking asylum. Our Liberal government brought them into the country under a false pretense.
But as it turns out, acchaladka, I am very close to the Korean immigrant community and that has helped me to see another lie the government has told. The Koreans, acchaladka, come from a highly industrialized country and are very highly skilled indeed. And you know what is happening to them? They arrive on the crest of a dream, but after a few years of trying to establish themselves here most (roughly two thirds) end up returning to Korea. Canada is too expensive, and they have not got enough time to save up a retirement nest egg before the clock runs out. Their dream goes sour. So I ask myself, acchaladka, if a skilled immigrant from Korea cannot make it in this advanced and expensive economy, how is an unskilled immigrant from Mali or Somalia supposed to make it? Who told them they could? Who accepted their application in the full knowledge that they would come into the country, go directly on the dole, and have no chance ever to get off it? Who would pluck people from a tropical climate and move them to the frozen north in the knowledge that they would trudge through the streets in endless, sinking despair as they realize what their immigration officer knew all along: they have no chance.
Only a Leftist would do that, acchaladka. Only a starry-eyed Leftist in a delirious compassion would be so arrogant and so ignorant. Only a Leftist would be impervious to the facts on the ground, and instead spend their energies in ad hominem assaults on their enemies.
I see these people walking the streets every day, and I feel sorry for them. They were duped by the same government that lied to me. Their dream has ended, replaced by the slow dawning that they've become the new underclass in a completely foreign culture. You can bet that's not what they had in mind when they boarded the plane.
TofeldianSage The plural of anecdote is not data, but that’s exactly what you’ve done. If only the Vietnamese boat people were skilled they could have been warmly and unconditionally welcomed in the 70s...oh wait. If only 18 year-old Americans had been university educated instead of simply fleeing a US regime trying to send them to war as cannon fodder....oh wait. Canada has accepted refugees for generations alongside skilled immigrants, and you are here to attempt to kill core Canadian values and sow fear. You are the worst kind of right-wing troll.
@@acchaladka you surprise me. You accused me of making up facts so I told you what I could see with my own eyes. Now I'm a right wing troll whose eyes lie. I'm not sure what else I could offer that wouldn't trigger your ad hominem instinct. The Vietnamese fleeing the Communist regime was a great example of people risking their lives and seeking refuge. You are right, we took in plenty and over the years I've worked with many of them. But why did you lump in the American draft dodgers, who refused to fight the evil army that drove the Vietnamese to our shores? They were never considered refugees by the Canadian government in any conventional sense. And they could hardly compare to the 2 million Cambodians murdered by the Communists whom they refused to fight. Those people were the real cannon fodder. Anyway acchaladka I'm not so much pointing out that you didn't offer much data yourself, but that your whole argument seems to rest on an effusive compassion that you presume is a core Canadian value. Our Dear Leader springs immediately to mind as a prime example of the milquetoast image you have, but the rest of us have more sense. We know a refugee when we see one, and we know when we've been lied to as well.
Rabbi, this clip has come out just recently. It is well-presented and cuts through much of the misinformation surrounding this issue. It is worth your time to hear it out.
Watch "Changing My Mind On Immigration - My EU Speech" on CZcams
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Wisdom speaks. Great job Rabbi Sacks! B"H
Malo ma'u koloa. Thank you for this wisdom, Rabbi.
I'm not sure, I understand the metaphor. While the Hotel and the Country House are quite clear, we can not expect them to literally build houses. I will have to think about it for a while; which is a sign of a very good video. Thank you; I hope, this is another brick in the healing of the world.
I see what you are saying. Yet I do not see, that integration will fail on every level, or that migrants will come here in order to replace. Sure the face of Europe will change, but if Europe will allow this to happen, maybe the best thing is to let it go under and make something better instead.
Israel would behave differently if there were less hatred.
All of this does not lead us to a solution. The problem is not easily solved, but we have to work for the betterment or we work against it.
The graphics are fantastic. Great work.
An interesting comparison of models. I will have to read the book.
תודה רבה ודרישת שלום מישראל!
It sounds good, but what does the implementation look like? What does it involve, policy-wise?
In Christ we are al a New Creation a new Identity as Childeren of The Most High #OneWay #JesusChrist is That Way
Do you have an example of a country with this model? Where it works.
This video shows us why Rabbi Sacks needs more followers.
How do you build together when much of the structure is already there. I can see it working when you are allowed to own property like land and building materials and you neighbors is nice enough to lead you a hand.
Has this approach led to a satisfactory outcome in Israel?
the model of utopian idealism. ah yes
A very interesting analogy .. each nation has its own traditions, for which migrants should integrate, but not assimilate. I believe multiculturalism has worked very well in the U.K. .. in 2010 during a severe economic downturn, the BNP (right wing racist party) got no seats .. a stark contrast to France which deals with its minorities in a far more racist society.
Your treatment of the us melting pot is very inaccurate. It was not at all a failure. Those from the 60s onward who defamed it were foolish and/or dishonest. I am a great fan of your Torah learning but your "home we build together" concept is, frankly, rainbows and unicorns.
This is a deeply weird analysis rabbi and I’m sorry to say you’ve missed the mark wide. Rather than contrasting the UK and US alone I’d suggest to expand to include Canada, which is to some degree already living the dream you elucidate in your model, Australia, which is not, and Japan which seems to want to remain hermetic. There is so much hysterical BS flowing out of the EU and US these days, mostly reactionary, and the ideas here only helpin that they repackage what several countries already do.
It sounds like wonderful idea. Too bad it could never become reality.
You seem to not understand the degree to which human nature is tribalistic. People don't just throw away their old particularistic identities in a favor of a new, more inclusive one. They cling onto their identity for as many generation as it is allowed to exist. They show preference and bias in favor of their group and are even willing to fight for it as long as the awareness of their particular identity lives in their minds.
The way to achieve your society is by crushing these identities. Something that i don't see in your little cartoon
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