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Is it championship or bust for the Lakers this season? | First Take
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- Is it championship or bust for the Lakers this season? | First Take
On First Take, Chris Carlin, Monica McNutt and Courtney Cronin discuss the state of the Los Angeles Lakers after their offseason moves.
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0:00 Are we overblowing how bad the Lakers are?
3:30 Discussing Lakers’ roster
7:50 Championship or bust for the Lakers?
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These mofos can't help but talk about the Lakers. Like please stop talking about us, You guys say we suck so move on. ESPN is cooked when Bron retires.
No they ain't. They got his son
Idk why people don’t understand they get the most views when they talk about the lakers 🤣 when they talk about Denver it gets like 5k views don’t nobody care unfortunately
They talk about the Lakers because they sell. The Lakers had 7 of the top 10 most watched games of the regular season. They also have 1 of the greatest players ever on their roster, who was number 2 in jersey sales last year. As long as those numbers hold, the Lakers will be a part of every conversation
Sports shows will always talk about the Lakers, Cowboys, and Yankees, because those are the most popular teams. More fans means more clicks etc. If you want them to cover your Wizards or Jazz, let them win 17 championships and then they’ll get talked about too.
I mean it's the lakers also lebron is in there. that's why no neck guy is hatin' to be the bad cop in the conversation
Im a lakers fan but Im sick of all these "what ifs" "what couldve been" talks. They are not a championship team period. Start talking about other teams espn.
All The Media Outlets and CZcams Experts Are Using The Lakers To Get Views / Otherwise Nobody Cares
You understand the Lakers sell, right? They were the highest viewed team last year, and LeBron is 2nd in jersey sales. People complain they don't wanna hear about the Lakers, yet they watch them.
@@justified004 The League Media is going to be dead soon because rather than focus on the future and promote the best players in the League (Jokic, Luka, Giannis) the League keeps putting out garbage about Bron and the Lakers. It's not good for the League even if it temporarily gets them some clicks for a few more years
I'm an absolute die hard Lakers fan and it has beyond annoyed me. Even bothering the s outta me
I'm a Lakers fan 2 I'm tired of the what ifs too don't worry the whole front office is going to be fired especially Rob pelinka English number one on out the door list he might not make it through the 20 2425 season time for a new general manager and president for are Lakers
LE ESPN is a clown show.
The 1 team that made no moves this offseason. "Championship or bust?". How do these bots have a job?.... #WorstTake
They constantly have to talk about bron or lakers or their ratings are a dumpster fire 😂
🤣🤣🤣 “bots” greatest common on here
Yall both clicked in the video and have for a while.thats why it's in your feed.dont want to see it,stop clicking
@@shaneshonda This ^^^.
A play-in team that literally made no moves but talking about “can they win a chip” like cmon
4 years play-in now a Circus. Still talking championship?😂
Espn are a joke. They are slowly turning me into a lebron hater after being a fan of him for many years. They are just making others dislike him even more
@@jcvelez915so way listen to it then lmao you aren't being forced. It's ridiculous how much they talk about bron but he is the face if the league. Imagine mj in this generation with all the gambling and stuff. It's just stupid they have nothing to talk about. But if that makes you hate him that's weird it's not like him tells them to talk about him. Aren't you grown
LeBron and AD have already won a championship. If it happened once it could happen again, just gotta put the right pieces around them and hopefully avoid the paper champion Nuggets.
and the cowboys haven't won since since 95... yet they're always making the headlines and somebody like you always comments this. It's been happening for 30 years and you guys do the same thing over and over and over and over again.
Some Goat
Ain't no way Lakers are getting a Championship they might only reach till the 1st round 😂
There’s a way. LeBron and AD are elite. Reaves Rui Dlo and Vando are solid role players. They have 3 first round picks to trade, if they can upgrade the roster a little that could put them over the top. The Nuggets have stomped them lately, but they’re getting worse, the Lakers can close that gap if they make the right move or two.
@@erikdayne5429I feel u bro but rob pelinka seem like he has been sleeping
@@erikdayne5429 if they are over the second apron the picks are frozen so they cant trade them
Literally, any independent sports CZcams is better than ESPN
but you're here helping them generate revenue. Ironic goofy
@@JurgenMiHoffYour logic is nonexistent. Imagine defending this joke of a company.
@@mattr27 💯 There is always a goofy lequeen fan defending ESPN LeBron and the goofy B's that is "sports media"
@@mattr27 imagine liking your own comment after a failed attempt to justify your own mental state
@@JurgenMiHoffLmao, you're coping so bad you had to convince yourself I liked my own comment. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
How can it be championship or bust when they dont even have a championship roster 😂
It's NBA records or bust. He hasn't cared about winning since he left for Cleveland. Barely then. That bubble chip was luck. No one in mgmt will stand up to LeGM. 40 yo LeFlop and AD ...this will be fun to watch them lose again.
ESPN just won’t stop talking about this mediocre team
@@markjones2518 other teams making great trades?
Lakers $$$$$
You clearly don't understand network TV and ad dollars then lol.
@@MB-go6uy yeah I guess I don't.
Courtney Cronin is a good reporter, so ESPN is wasting her time by using her as a 3rd stringer on a lame morning debate show.
No top free agents want to go there. Take that hint, ESPN. The Lakers aren't all that. Yet you talk about them day after day after day. They're a 2nd tier team right now. Borderline playoff team.
They didn’t have the cap space to sign a top free agent. They only had the mid level exception which was around $13 million.
@erikdayne5429 my man lebron agreed to take a pay cut clay Thompson turned down the offer nobody wants to join the team all thanks to jennie buss and palinka and lebron and the circus they turned the franchise into
@@mannyrangel5803Thompsons trash. Lakers dumb even going for his choking @$$. If he couldn’t even help his Warriors beat this Lakers team, why did LA go for him? No clue
@user-jm8bj1hd3d all of a sudden he trash🤣my guy you would of been the first one all over Thompson nuts if he would of came to the lakers 😂🤣
I honestly be asking myself, when lebron retires what are most of these sports shows are gonna be talking about?
Caitlyn Clark
the cowboys still, the current knicks roster and maybe the yankees
LeBron retiring
“Angel Reese had 13 points and 8 rebounds isn’t she fantastic”
When lebron retires a lot of people are going to celebrate including me soo tired of lebron overated mofo and his 4ppg son
When people wonder why ESPN still talks about Lebron daily, just look at how many viewers on this video in less than 15 minutes
Same old story, lakers ain’t doing nothing
Let me save you 11 mins. It’s the Lakers. It’s always championship or bust.
Am I the only person enjoying First take W/O SAS... Take note ESPN. The show doesn't need a screaming headache inducing Mascot 😊
Crazy how they are saying the only reason they could POTENTIALLY make somewhat of a run is cause of a 40 year old Lebron, the expectations are crazy
Due to lebrons age, Lakers fans only expected one championship when we got lebron, and it happened. Anything on top of that is just gravy. All the lebron lakers hate is just immature.
Bet if he was on a next team you be throwing shade you only saying that cause he's on your team 🙄🙄
Then all the Lebron fanboys should stop blaming everyone else around him when the Lakers not winning. Like you said, Lebron is OLD and slowly decline, but the Lebron fans are still acting like hes a top 5-10 players. Well, if you are a top 10 player, and your teammate is also another top 10 player, then competing for a championship is the expectation.
@tigera6 if you wanna say ad is top 10 and lebron top 15 that's fair but basketball is a 5 on 5 sport. Lebron and ad can average 30 a game but you still gonna need 50 at least from the supporting cast.
Bubble championship. Big ***********
I really don’t get the LeBron hate. He’s never had any off court issues. 20 years in the league and he’s never even gotten a parking ticket. He plays the game the right way, he’s not a ball hog like Harden, he actually passes the ball, makes the right play and sets up his teammates. He’s never quit on a team and demanded a trade, he’s always played out his contracts and only switched teams as a free agent.
Yeah he tries to get his teams to make moves to improve but that’s because he wants to win, that’s not a bad thing, and it works as he’s won a championship with every team he’s played on. He compares himself to Jordan but that’s not a bad thing either. Kobe was the ultimate competitor and people love him for it, LeBron wants to be the goat and that makes him a villain? He’s a great player who plays the game the right way and doesn’t have any issues off the court. You can root against him but the disrespect just seems like mindless hate.
The whole first take crew on vacation and ain’t tell us?
Championship? That shouldn’t even be a conversation at the moment. Lol. This team can’t even sign mid tier free agents.
IN season champions or bust, much better caption 😂😅.
0:27 Forgot to mention Max Christie Re-signed. -Carry On (Kendrick Perkins voice)
Dear ESPN, you had a Anti Lakers Video, about how they failed and they will most likely miss the playoffs, by having hosts who primary jobs are with teams and cities that are DEFINITELY ANTI LOS ANGELES OVERALL and especially anti lakers 😂
The 100000th video of the Lakers on ESPN.
Not one analyst picked the Mavs to make the Finals,yet they did. The Lakers aren't that far behind other teams in the West as far as having a run in the playoffs. The Nuggets have shut them down the last 2 years,but that's luck of the draw.
It's incredible how much time a talk show devotes to Lakers even when they're not making any news.
I’m almost certain nobody watched any of the games last year. Why are we not talking about how awful of a coach Ham was. He had the best starting lineup on his roster to start the season.yet he had Bron, Reddish, Prince, Russell, AD in the starting line up. Ham rotations were abysmal. I’m betting on them to be a top 5 seed.
Yeah they brought back the same team because the plan was to build chemistry and then Ham kept switching up the lineup so they couldn’t actually build chemistry. If Redick picks a starting lineup and sticks to it that will already be an improvement over Ham.
*Lakers are playing for the Clout Championship at the Circus Awards*
Fax
I'm a Laker fan but I'm honest and realistic. It will be a few years before the Lakers Our title contenders again. The front office needs to make the right moves
is it the front office? do players not wanna play for the organization or do they not wanna play with lebron?
This is why Steven A. should never let others host his show. Chris Carlin and Courtney are just trolling talking about them not making the play-in. They are passionate about their hate. If it wasn't for them facing Denver, they would have been in the WCF, and if that happened, would they be saying the same thing about them not making the play-in. People jus thrive on hating the Lakers.
But wit Brooks n McMillan we gonna b well coached
Ok everyone, we all know what's next for the Lakers........FULL REBUILD......Come on ESPN, you can do it.....just say it.....don't be scared....
Bron and AD were the most healthy last year. Bron had better 3pt percentage but didn’t do no offseason moves. They’re the same team minus two additions.. they’ll be 9th or 10th seed I bet on it
LeGM and Rob Lowe didn't secure a decent free agent 🙄 another play in year I guess. Golden State did way better in free agency with some decent shooters too. At least they have a decent draft pick Knecht, but they don't have any bigs for Denver and Minnesota, and have to face OKC, Memphis, New Orleans, Dallas. The West is stacked😳
No coach or player worth their time wanted to come to LA.
Dude AIN"T THE GOAT and that bubble ring def not worth the downslide after
I the narrative around Bron and JJ’s relationship. This is the 3rd time Bron is being coached by somebody he played against. I’m pretty sure Bron and Ty Lue talked about basketball before they won a championship together, just saying 😂
Just when you thought ESPN couldn't go any lower. Here it is.
Pointless laker conversations are upon us with no other sports as refuge. Prayers for the sports community during this trying time of the year.
They get paid to talk about every team!! Who we should be mad at is Rob Pelinka. He hasn't made any trades or signed any free agents in two years ..Lakers needs to do something
This cast makes you appreciate the original SportsCenter cast and they’re not bad just boring.
“71 games last year. Most he’s played as a laker. Most he’s played since he was with Cleveland.” … literally the same statement twice. Obviously he’s been on the lakers since he left Cleveland. I like McNutt but the rest of this crew is not even 2nd rate, bottom of the barrel.
Bruh the lakers legitimately have a chance beat ANY team in the west in a 7 game series besides the Nuggets like let’s be honest… they didn’t luck into the WCF last season
Preach Monica. Way better teams to discuss. 👏
NO ONE wants to play under lbj much less with his son. All the free agents passed.
Nobody wanted the coaching job nobody wants to come sign in LA yet ESPN still reporting on them like they are relevant in the West. Extra Special Pathetic Nonsense network
Kobe said you don't Play for Conference finals you play for Banners every year
You wasted a draft pick on Bronny and now you think they’re possibly going to compete for the NBA championship…
If I am Anthony Davis. Am I asking for a trade? It was only a few years ago. The narrative was the future needs to be around Anthony Davis and he needs to be what this team builds around and yet for at least the last two years he’s been as good or worsethan the team he asked to be traded from and the Lakers can’t decide if they want to prioritize the James family or developing talent so if your Anthony Davis, who is in the past very injury prone and not getting younger, do you feel slighted enough that you want to go to a better team
If you are AD who is taking on that massive contract then hoping the total games played is north of 50?
Love how they talk about whose gettin blamed like THEY THE MEDIA AND PSYCHO FANS ARENT THE ONLY ONES BLAMING ANYBODY 😭 later into the year they’ll start the show by saying “ who’s to blame ? “ and pretend as if one of the players coaches or GM vocalized said blame. ESPN is nasty
Championship or bust?? This team isn’t even in contention how are they even being mentioned as title contenders! 💀💀💀
This team isn’t a championship contender and if anyone stills believes that they can be is straight ridiculous.
Man I feel like we’re right there honestly. We were up vs Denver all the games by double digits! We can beat anyone tbh just gotta have a couple of luck things happen but we’re right there I feel like
It's already a bust unless they get lucky with mid season trade. But have fun keep talking about them ESPN
Championship or bust for a bubble team in the same conference as Denver, OKC, Dallas and Minn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Highest Stat Last October.... Opponents Vengeance. Energy aggression. Caused. Fast defense and missed Shots!!! Last season. Nba most missed shots. Defense pressure.
Ain't no one interested in watching 12th Take. We need Stephen A. back lol
Only way Lakers win a championship next season if they get lucky and players other teams be injured
So you mean how Boston won this year.
They still not gonna win even if players get injured
@natureredux1957 That's how the Warriors won their first title and how Lebron beat the warriors so injuries helping is nothing new.
@@Maxrepfitgmor how warriors beat bron in 2015
@@natureredux1957Big difference in talent between LA and Boston. 😂 Celtics were beating those teams, healthy lineups all year. Lakers would need an absolute miracle. Boston had the talent to back it up either way.
There are no ifs in Lakers nation because they simply aren't good enough to compete in the NBA.
New Stats. 3 guys at 24+ points. Or near 6 people 24+ points. Team wise. Need more guys. Scores. Yet a young defensive team
Might as well ask are the pistons a championship or bust after acquiring tobias Harris who is 10 times better than both Bronny and the other draft pick
4:44 perfect take nobody really improved unless you think the warriors signings gave them more shooters
ESPN thinks they gonna get away with another year of just posting the mid lakers and lebron. Not this year. We ain’t even clicking ya videos if that’s all you’re gonna talk about.
Courtney knows what she’s talking about ☝🏽☝🏽
Lol what a ridiculously stupid question. It's embarrassing ESPN even allowed this to air. Why would it be championship or bust for a team that barely manages to make the playoffs every season? When they do make the playoffs, they are getting swept like an old cellar floor. The team that made zero off-season moves and wasn't even close to good enough last year, that's the team we're talking about with this?
Why i cant rely on coaches. From the field players diff ways. Harder to guess.
I think they should run it back. Last year it was injuries and D Ham running whack line ups. Let's run AD, BRon, Rui, Reaves and Dlo for a whole season. C Wood Vando Max Dalton and Gabe of the bench. Lakers are gonna be fine
D Lo & Austin will continue to get cooked
Would really love to have a conversation with the Producers of this show. Talk about recycling the same old tired questions. 😂 The Lakers are not a championship contender man. It will be Bron’s last year and the Lakers are trying to “develop” players. Which is weird bc they’ve always had good talent so like either they play well or they get traded. 😂
Nobody trying to pay 14% state income tax…
When Your Team on FiiiRE!!!!
Gotta Share Quarters!! And Share 15+ Points each!!!
People forgetting about memphis? Dont even like them but when Ja comes back they are in the mix
How many teams would u bet money could beat the Lakers in a 7 game series
They sacked Ham because he went out first round so why is the expectation any less now.
See, there you go again... confusing the Lakers with the Yankees.
Why do people think that winning another ring with the Lakers was his priority? 🤣.
Bronny, Max Contract and owning an NBA team was his goals. He’s just using the Lakers as a catapult to achieve post NBA greatness!
If lebron is this mastermind GM behind the scenes why does he always get the blame for bad moves but a NEVER credit for good moves. Honestly yall should credit him 4 titles as a player and 4 as a GM
Give him credit for the bubble. He didn’t bring Kyrie to Cleveland. He don’t get credit in Miami when he wanted to fire Spo.
The main things that will drive the lakers success:
1. JJ reddicks coaching ability.
2. Health (Vanderbuilt was key)
3. Matchups
Don’t underestimate the 3rd because people were literally picking the Mavs over the Celtics.
Who is your drug dealer? I need their #
@@Lilhtotheizzo84 This guy named “evidence” be selling loud “fact” packs. Your lungs can’t hang.
The matchups are key. For some reason the Nuggets have their number, if the Lakers can avoid them their chances of advancing go up tremendously.
Or, ya know, they could add some role players, maybe a guard that can defend Murray and a big that can defend Jokic, but I can’t promise Pelinka will make those moves, or any moves for that matter. If they end up basically running back the same team, they would be lucky to avoid the Nuggets.
@@erikdayne5429 Vanderbuilt and Vincent were supposed to do that. I think there are some interesting pieces in Brooklyn they can snatch. And definitely should inquire about Dwight.
They're good enough to win with the right coach and keeping injury free. There's no excuse to keep blowing 20 point leads or fighting back down 20. Play 48 minutes and you always have a chance.
“They’re not gunna win a championship…they’re just not.”
Ten seconds later: “Any team with LeBron in it has a shot.”
FMD
Monica is the same girl who SAID the Knicks are going to beat the Celtics this year 😂 I'm tired of all these IFS. Let's discuss what is actually happening
They would’ve beaten them if they were healthy brain cell.
@@williecatch9 you're fuccin stupid if you think randle and OG were gonna be enough to stop Boston. Boston was on a mission and nobody was stopping them
@@williecatch9tired narrative. Celtics had the best overall team in the association.
The majority of monica's takes are bad or moderate takes. She diverts a lot of times by asking simple questions to the other. DEI is strong with ESPN
@@JurgenMiHoff Stop sucking exhaust pipes. That stuff kills brain cells.
It’s been championship or bust for any team LeBron has been on since the 2007 Finals
We have no. Windler!! Defender SF. And Last 10 Seconds. Swing out a #2- 3 pointer
Trade bronny and his pa to the pistons, Portland, hornets or hawks and get some good young pieces around Davis. Or simply trade ALL 3👍
ESPN just flat refuses 2 cover winning teams.
Bro no one wants this JR team stop. We want our typical cast
Why is this question only asked about Lebron's team? It's ridiculous.
I'm a patient Lakers fan but I aready lost my faith with the Lakers this time. No one wants to go to the Lakers! It's a mismanaged organization! Plus no one wants to deal with Pelinka!
Why hasn't anybody said, no one wants to play with LeBron James
Why do we act like Darvin Ham wasn't a major part in holding the Lakers back? Didn't start Rui for half the season and the played immediately better with him in. Over played Taurean Prince. Didn't play Vanderbilt, Wood, or Christie all of whom were healthy against the nuggets.
I think espn broke their own record of talking about the Lakers for 2 months straight
What is Monica talking about..that’s the point! To win championships!..The Lakers haven’t done anything to improve their chances. Smh
Literally not one free agent after last year
Before you can ask that question you have to be a contender for multiple years which they have not. This a question for Philly, Milwaukee, Denver and maybe Dallas given that Klay n Kyrie are getting older. Of those teams Milwaukee is most championship or bust, but Philly is more on the clock since Embiid n PG don't have one.
imagine they actually win this video would be insane
Y’all such an unserious program, talking about a championship with a nepo baby who scored 4pts a game in college, a 45 year old making 50m, an injury prone star, a middle school basketball coach, as nice as the Buss family is they’re terrible owners. Stop soaking the Kobe, Magic, Kareem aura on this awful team. You’re setting yourselves up for failure literally every time
I turned off the video wothin the 1st 10 seconds woth that intro.
Everyone complains about all the Lakers coverage, yet they watch. The Lakers had 7 of the 10 most watched games this past regular season. They have arguably one of the top 3 players of all time who was 2nd in jersey sales. Like it or not, the Los Angeles Lakers sells.
Keep glazing so that the show goes on.
The obsession with Lakers is too crazy
If lakers start off 0-3 JJ is going to get flamed in media
The Lakers are done for a while. They really need to be rebuilding but they are going to do the Lebron's farewell tour waste of a season BS.
the ESPN G league squad is out 😂😂
It’s a make or break for the front office, ownership, and Lebron James. The debate of a championship is a joke but this organization is James hiring all his friends and having control. They have a higher chance of finishing last than a championship.
Only topic espn got is the lakers and cowboys.