Longsword Vs Nodachi - Who will win? | TDS 003
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- čas přidán 10. 10. 2022
- Katanas are shorter than longswords and length matters....amarite? So what if we used a BIGGER katana? In this video, I spar one of my newer HEMA students (he volunteered) using a Nodachi against his Longsword!
DISCLAIMER: This video is for entertainment and...educational purposes... It was not intended to determine which sword is better. Those that spar often already know that the more skilled the fencer is, the less their weapon differences matter (excluding polearms, you're just fuc#@$ at that point)
The nodachi is just a closer match to the longsword than the katana is, in both length and size. If I were fighting a seasoned longsword fencer, the results may have changed and visa versa. Just a reminder to be kind and don't treat this video as a debate....because I'll be making a video just for that the future!
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Finally someone having a nodachi against a longsword rather than a katana. It has been a long wait.
A Nodachi is technically a Katana. The Katana you’re referring to is known as an Uchigatana. Nodachi are just the largest category of Katanas.
We found that the Akado Nodachi was just closer in length to a longsword. Katanas, even Tachi, are almost always shorter
@@ludusferocia8696 Your Nodachi is on the shorter end of the infamous Japanese Great sword, aka other Nodachis/ Odachis. It’s definitely No Masamune.
it depends much more on the skill of the user than the weapon itself considering their similarities
100% the right answer. If there were a starker difference between the two then maybe a conclusion could be drawn, but most of the time..the answer of "which is better" is found in "who is better".
Great stuff! Cross training only makes everyone better. Looks like a grand old time all around, and glad the gear is holding up so well.
Agreed! It was a lot of fun!
The longsword guy is clearly a beginner, posture are wrong, and so structure for strike and parry. Not to mention the eye closed when hit come..
He is new to the club and new to longsword but getting better every week!
@@ludusferocia8696 Cheers to him, hope he keep the motivation to work further and to improve :) Wish you the best !
That's the thing with swords , it doesn't matter if one is beginner or experienced . One can practice million times , but one mistake can be fatal .
For example that hand cut the guy with the nodachi sword made , it's pretty basic now anyone even a experienced swordsman can be struck by that 😉 cut ..
It's one of the first counter defense 😳 cuts you learn in kenjutsu. And lol 😆 tru out history many experienced swordsman have been victim of that cut.
@@ryufight7987 "One can practice million times , but one mistake can be fatal" generic statement working for everything. Is not the point over here.
For the hand cut, it's basic yes, and you can parry it. Head cut are basic, and you can parry it. I mean, nothing new. The point here is about overall structure and gesture of the beginner.
Exactly what I wanted to see as this matchup is what I'm assuming most of us who cross train are planning to use the Akado blades for, so thanks a lot for sharing. Did the VB blade create any actual nicks on the Akado blade yet, or just burrs that you can easily file down?
Np at all. It was a lot of fun. The nodachi received far less damage than the prototype katanas did. The Akado team told me the new models have a slightly harder treatment on them so even less dents. There were a few dings here and there but they filed out in minutes.
@@ludusferocia8696 are they both just really big dudes that warps the perspective then? Because it does look really small. What is the measurement?
@@tiexiaowang7939 Links to the swords are in the description. The Nodachi is exceptionally long, as they were historically. The longsword is an average length for a longsword, which there were very long and shorter versions that sometimes melded into "Hand and a half" swords
So... where is your No-Dachi from? Looks good for a practice weapon.
That final head stab was nasty. It looked dangerous for a second.
Assuming both fighters are equally/comparably matched opponents, and assuming that both a "katana type" sword AND the European Longsword are the same exact lengths (blade length) Which sword is "better"? Assuming no armor is worn and open space? I have no experience with sword fighting and I am just curious.
All the videos I see are either, one sword is longer than the other, and the one with more reach tends to have more success. I was curious as to what would happen if both swords are the exact same lengths, and the fighters are both somewhat equal in comparison? Do you have any opinions on this?
I think that would be a video for another day that we would be very interested in making as well! This was more of an introduction to it since we just received the nodachi and it's such a unique sparring sword. We were just very excited to try them out. It's obvious in this video that a student fighting an instructor is not a good comparison medium.
I will say with my experience in both disciplines, the longsword, if the same length as a nodachi, would most likely still have a slight Advantage due to the better hand protection. But I would also say that the noguchi most likely cuts a little better just as we see with katana versus long swords. the stiffer blade is going to be better in the bind and allow for easier and deeper Cuts so long as no armor is being worn. If armor was in place, the long sword would be a superior weapon.
@@ludusferocia8696 Thank you for the reply!
Good work 👏
Thank you
The difference in fight styles are very visible watching this. the traditional western fight styles require a lot of rotating manuevers while the Japanese fight styles are more focused on stabbing and slashing.
Distance, skill level and most important lol blade length
Thx for sharing cheers 🍻
Most accurate shit Ive seen so far
May I ask what your nodachi is made of? Is it springsteel?
Yes it is. 9260 spring steel
@@ludusferocia8696 Thank you!
If we are just doing “the battle for who makes the longest sword”? The Nodachi wins. And then next week someone shows up with a Zweihander. Then pole arms. So forth and so on. For me personally? The Nodachi doesn’t offer much protection in the way of your hands. And I like two sharp edges on my sword. But I would not want to be slashed by the Nodachi! 👍
Total length: 377 cm (148 in) ?
The longsword is a bit short, i use mine that is 130 cm with 100 cm blade.
but there's a great variety of longswords, with 110 with 88 blade, so it might be the size he's using(so is still a longsword but shorter)
the most standard size is 125 with 96 blade.
There's no really the "right" size.
Ya that thing is way too small. The handle isn't even big enough to use two hands with proper leverage.
I think the nodachi's fencer better than longsword's fencer. Use them same swords, who is the better swordman. I think this video is not the anwser the nodachi's advantage, but i know, in real time combat it is: longer blade (higher centripetal power) and long grip (to extend balance and powered use) plus almost same weight (~ 0,5kg difference).
The nodachi fencer is an instructor while the longsword fencer at the time, was new to two handed fencing so that is true, it is not a true comparison. But we worked with what we had that day and had a blast.
1:09 Good idea, catch a sharp blade with the hand (I,m refering in a real combat, without gloves and a Sharp weapon)
Brave no knee guards or padded material. It hurts alot get hit in the knee wirh out armor
I bet that if they switched weapons results would be the same: black would win :DDd
Well, he runs the club so...
that's a pretty short longsword 😅
Average as longswords go, short compared to the Nodachi lol!
@@ludusferocia8696this sword have doublehanded handle and length typical for one handed or for 1.5 handed maximum, but it doesn't even have second handle on the blade part typical for doublehanded swords
Obviously man with such a short and not typical sword will loose
Actual 2handed sword would have more variable techniques a moovs
@Ilya Smolentsev it sounds like what you are describing is a Greatsword. This longsword that is being used is actually designed for two hands but is not as big as a Greatsword. Two-handed longswords varied greatly in their length and styles
@@ludusferocia8696 eah you wright, but I guess that longsword this long can't be compared with nodachi
First of all beacuse of length
@Ilya Smolentsev absolutely. The nodachi was still much longer than the longsword. A greatsword, depending on the type, could dwarf the nodachi however. Maybe we will try that next
The nodachi is the japanese version of a longsword.
0:55 An armpit strike, in a real fight with full armor, that is exactly how you should kill each other, and a swing by a Katana would definitely left a vein cuts open.
Other than pulling a fucking war hammer which should be the first choice LOL.
The longsword is in jeans... a cutting sword is better used from a high guard utilizing it's speed with power and weight. To me this speaks of a Beginner wielder.
The nodachi user is correct in his stances and footwork and flows through them smoothly indicating experience. And is correctly using a slashing lighter weight weapon.
The video indicates nothing about who would win for the above reas9ns but I'd love to see a match up between two experienced practisioners and that would prove a little more insightful I think..
The nodachi is actually slightly heavier than the longsword. The longsword student just joined our club a month ago so he is very new and simply volunteered for the cool experience. We will see if we can get the nodachi from akado again and I will have one of my more experienced longsword students spar me next time.
Shows nothing about who would win ?
Uhm that first defensive hand wrist cut ✂️ ,would he enough in real life 😳 to say I have won , because his freaking hand would be gone 😅.
So I don't know 😕 what you consider winning ,
But in My book that's a wrap finish .
Finally A sword fight that makes sense not long sword vs katana but long sword vs nodachi
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Парень с европейским мечем. Где вы его нашли? Он его даже держит неправильно.
One of those fighters is better than the other b
Is this guy really knows how to wield nodachi?
I've never fought with one before until that day. I am a kenjutsu practitioner so I'm used to katana
Looks more like a broadsword.
The curve is a big advantage
В синей защитной куртке ...мешок полный, неактивный, нескоростной, безынициативный....полное ч м о
it seems to me like they're beginners
Or atleast the longsword guy, the nodachi guy looks like he's going easy.
The longsword fighter was a new student at the time. I did not want to go too fast with him for the video. He's much more skilled now that he's been with us for a bit.
Um... are you serious? There's no comparison. It's one beginner against another beginner.
Um.. wouldn't that make it a comparison then?
very nice Posta di Donna at 1:08