Kirby Timeline with The Forgotten Land!
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- With 30 Years of Kirby it is time to do the Kirby Timeline with Kirby and the Forgotten Land on Nintendo Switch!
#KirbyandtheForgottenLand #KirbyTimeline #Kirby
Intro and Origin Lore - 00:00
Kirby's Dreamland - 00:30
Revenge of Meta Knight - 01:33
Kirby's Adventure - 02:34
Kirby Super Star Milky Way Wishes - 04:35
Kirby's Dreamland 2 and 3 - 06:09
Kirby Star Allies - 22:34
Kirby and the Forgotten Land - 24:05
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Actually it was revealed in later games maglor lives and he is good now and is super rich so he builds amusement parks that may not follow safety codes.
Edit: HOLY MOLY! I DID NOT THINK I WOUL HAVE *THIS MANY LIKES* !
And he said Marx is still evil too :/
@@Essdessessesserdt Marx is kinda just vibing
Canonically Marx did what he did because he was hangry
@@Essdessessesserdt Marx is actually still evil tho technically, his description in star allies mentions that he only decided to help because the threat of void termina was too much for him to ignore
True
Kirby lore:
*Someone interrupts Kirby's nap/lunch* -----> *PROCEEDS TO KILL GOD*
And his friends can do It too
Sending a message
Forgotten Land lore :
*got succ to strange portal*
now we kill a godlike lifeform
Hey, Kirby is probably a baby god himself, so it's not THAT strange...
Forgotten Land is the first Kirby game that has terrified me as an adult and I like reading H.P. Lovecraft so that's something.
This game is simply amazing.
Litterly same
That amalgamation of a blob chasing you down the hall is just terrifying
@@edenmairay60 straight up just a boss from resid evil 3.
@@edenmairay60 thats not even the scariest part fort me. I came into the room and i thought im gonna fight a lion but then i see this giant fetus
@A Very Disappointed Red Engineer lol
This may be the general timeline, but it certainly ignores a LOT of things. Like Nova and StarDream both being the same kind of machine, and were made by the same race that made the Starcutter. Also, the race of the Forgotten Land wasn't ended by Fecto Elfilis, they left the planet after making their own teleportation tech. And judging by the shape of the portals, the Forgotten Race were the ones who created the Starcutter model of starship, and by extention the Wish Watches(Nova, StarDream, and others). It is also implied that the Forgotten Race colonised Planet Popstar, eventually either dying out, leaving for another planet, or evolving into the races you see in the Kirby games. Oh, and Leongar was being mind controlled by the Forgo half of Fecto Elfilis, along with Dedede. The mask just strengthened the mind control on Dedede.
This video also ignores the tragedies of Taranza, Sectonia, Haltmann, and Susie.
There are also the understandable exclusions of the Team Kirby Clash side games, which have their own, similar yet different, lore.
Edit: this probably read as a know-it-all type post... I can understand why these details were ignored. Most of them were located in the pause menus during the bosses, and they have little bearing on the main plot of the games.
Edit 2: I FORGOT HEROES IN ANOTHER DIMENSION. In the 3.0 update to Star Allies, the challenge campaign "Heroes in Another Dimension" was added, extending the story of Star Allies to include the revival of the elemental sisters and Hyness, as well as the introduction of Morpho Knight.
I wouldn't say it's "know it all", us kirby-fans are just very passionate about the lore! :D
you know then Leongar said that the Forgotten Race gained the mysterious power from ID-F86 and departed to the land of dreams i thought of 2 things:
1). The land of dreams could either be referring to a place in Popstar (fountain of dreams? maybe it was made by them?) or that post game place called Forgo Dreams.
2). Magolor and his powers and the ship. When i saw how the mysterious power is the ability to teleport and also has spacial time distortion abilities (like pulling certain objects from other places in the boss with Forgo Elfilis the ultimate lifeform) the shape in which it's portrayed the same as Magolor and his boss fight (using star shaped portals to attack or summon things from other dimensions). Now i haven't fully played Star Allies so i don't know if Void Termina does it as well. But what if Magolor is part of the Forgotten Race?
Hyness may be a former member of the Beast Pack.
so are we (humans)technically the ancient race
@@j-core2895 probably not, as we presumably died out on Shiver Star.
Edit: that and the scale of the mouthful modes is outta wack. Why is a traffic cone the size of a vending machine?
What’s weird is that the first three entries kind of make sense in order of events considering how metaknight was a true villain only once….his second appearance. For dedede’s revenge, I could totally see a period of time between it and spring breeze where dedede has trained his minions for a comeback.
Metaknight was technically not a villain from his perspective
@@12DAMDO He just wanted to toughen up the people of planet Popstar.
Eh. Still kinda weird that Meta Knight’s Revenge would be his first appearance. You would think Revenge would be his second appearance so he could get revenge on Kirby after losing to him in Adventure.
@Galactic Knightmare take revenge on his loss to Kirby. His other motive was also to conquer Dreamland because he saw how weak it was in the previous games since dreamland can’t really do anything without Kirby.
i love how forgotten lands goes from 0 to 100 real quick in the lab hehe
The Kirby series has really dark lore and is really dark in general despite its happy and uppity nature.And I love it. All these events make a lot of sense as well. My friends are new to Kirby so this video really helped them.
It's funny too because Kirby is a total Mary Sue. Yet he does such a good job as a character.
@@NoHandle44 well he's a being of only love so at least he has a reason to be so happy, but he can't read so that could count as a flaw
@@NoHandle44 well he's not pretending to be a character eith problems. He doesn't grate because he's so genuinely and simply nice. Also cute as heck, no way to hate him haha.
There are several missing points not gone over in this video:
•Canvas Curse brought in Drawcia, older sister to Paintra, Claycia, and Vividria.
•Mass Attack takes place AFTER Squeak Squad and sees Kirby teaming up with Daroach to find rainbow medals to get into the last area.
•Magolor was not destroyed for good; he survived and created a theme park to apologize to Kirby and co.
•Queen Sectonia was corrupted by the DImension Mirror that Dark Mind took residence in.
•Star Dream’s a Galactic Nova underneath the armor, explaining the wish-granting power. Also, Novas were made by the same Ancients that made the Lor Starcutter.
•Heroes in Another Dimension expands on the story as Kirby and co. venture into Another Dimension to save a corrupted Hyness and Mage-Sisters from it and redeem them.
•The race that experimented on Fecto Forgo warped away from their land, and the portals look eerily similar to the ones the Lor uses.
The other oddity about the whole Forgotten Land thing is that time seemingly goes much faster in the Forgotten land: Kirby only enters the portal slightly later than most imported inhabitants, but said inhabitants were in the forgotten land for quite a while before Kirby arrived. Likewise, Elfilis only left Kirby for a short while during the ending, but he had to rest and recuperate after sealing the portals.
My question though, is whether this is merely a difference of time speeds, or whether the portals actually have some time-travel capabilities.
Also knowing that the Forgotten Land had residents that experimented on invasive alien subjects, makes me wonder if the beast pack's intelligence also came about from said experimentation.
00:00 Awesome that you used the 25th anniversary orchestra for the beginning of the video!
It was too good to not use when we are in the 30th Anniversary :)
I like how dedede gets a redesign every game
Has anyone else noticed the markings on Fecto Elfilis's ears are similar to the tail feathers of the Sphere Doomers? Considering both are beings that are capable of interdimensional travel (using the same wormhole shape too), could Fecto Elfilis come from the same dimension as Sphere Doomers?
His final form in Ultimate Cup Z as Chaos Elfilis Soul is spherical. He could be related to the Doomers or just yet another creation of void.
@@austinfaber2247 I don't think that was just his soul. I think it was an accumulation of a bunch of souls.
He also has beta design magolor’s hands.
@@austinfaber2247 every powerful object is a ball
Poor dedede can't get a break from being captured/possessed
When it comes to modern Kirby games I believe there are two approaches when it comes to the story. There is the triple deluxe approach we’re nothing really gets explained until the final boss and the Planet robot approach where most things aren’t explained until the final boss but before a few bosses there are some cut scenes that give you some hints about whats going on. Star allies had the planet robot approach and forgotten land has the triple deluxe approach. Personally I prefer the planet robot approach. I like it when you get some of the story beats or dialogue before the final boss. In forgotten land there are a few bosses (specifically the world 3 and 5 bosses) I think should’ve talked or at least had a few lines to dialogue. Overall though forgotten lands story is really good even if it isn’t explained until the final boss
Yeah my main issue with Forgotten land is that the lore is only at the last 2 levels
@@penguinstrain And postgame. Though in this case, the postgame is actually canon which makes up for such.
@@sinteleon still a really step back compared to what we had in robobot
Were the other animals even able to communicate like Leon? I thought the game made it a point to say that his new way of speaking was due to Elfilis's influence. Clawroline never has a speech bubble, and we only know what they say due to Elfilin but Leon actually had a speech bubble. I think this and some of the figurines plus maybe some dialogue confirm that. Unless the pack wanted to tell all this to Kirby and Elfilin it would be weird to divulge their plans and what's going on.
@@anthonynguyen1289 The gacha lore specifically mentions that Clawroline communicates in meows, before and after. (whether the waddle dees would be able to translate is unknown, though apparently Elfilin can understand Clawroline... though that could also be cause Elfilin probably psychic in some form)
Funny thing about MetaKnight’s original assault on Deamland. The reason he tried to start war on Dreamland was to stop the residents from being lazy.
Only just began the video, but pouring one out for Iwata-san. "On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer." Nintendo hasn't been the same without him.
All of the Kirby games have this dark lore behind them but there's Kirby to lighten up the mood. No matter how grim is a situation there's that little glimmer of hope
“Hooray I saved dedede for the 500th time! Time to run over the ultimate life form”
The crystal is actually one of dark matters only weakness he was trying to break it not steal it.
HAL: There is no timeline!
Kirby Fans: Yeah, we ain't trying to hear that.
Did you know that Kirby’s based on a lawyer that helped Nintendo of America survive AND win a lawsuit that was going to destroy Nintendo? A movie company sued Nintendo for Copyright violation through Donkey Kong. John Micheal Kirby (I think that’s the name) literally travelled across the world to find statements. His biggest point? “Kong has become a synonym for, ‘Big Gorilla’,”.
Named after, not based.
@@pierrenegron1507 yes, but bingo, and also exactly. You see, you may think that you were right, but you are actually right, and I’m the one that’s REALLY wrong! I can see that you know exactly what you are talking about. Meanwhile, I, with all of my knowledge and wisdom, know exactly that I am not! Congralutations, you just won a pointless argument! :D
@@kartorrent7496 was never and argument, just a correction. You ok?
@@kartorrent7496 he just corrected your mistake not everything is a personal attack
@@dallama2616 I know! I just replied, congratulating his win at this pointless conversation!
Why does Kirby have the best lore of any Nintendo franchise? Like, seriously this is insane.
At 7:57 I suddenly realized that a lot ok kids probably saw that and thought nothing of it.
who else when they heard "The Ultimate Life Form" immediately thought: "SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG?????"
I immediately thought: Isn't that supposed to be Kirby?
Why would you call me out like this
Literally everyone
No I thought JoJo!!
I did...
It’s nice to know that even if Kirby has a dark counterpart, the little fluff ball is still a good guy.
what a great job, for someone who doesn't know anything about the kirby canon it's very good, although several games are missing (among them kirby mass attack, power paintbush, super clash and fighters) but it's pretty good, it helps to summarize pretty well the lore
It’s not pretty good. It’s quite shit. MANY games and events are missing
I love how cool metaknight can be dispite also being a ball like kirby
You guys did it! Thank you so much, been looking forward to this one for a long time now. Amazing job!!
I didn't know a story could be so cute and so terrifying at the same time
How many times has dedede been possessed?
Man King Dedede has to be very tired of being mind controlled
Or maybe that's just his excuse. :V
Hope you enjoy the Kirby Timeline as it is during this 30th Anniversary! Added the games that you were missing in the previous timeline. So be sure to like it for more Nintendo and video game Timelines!
There is a golden butterfly in the legend of Zelda breath of the wild 2, and in mario kart 8 delux booster dlc. Pixar toy story 4, soul and turning red all had it. So did moana frozen 2 and Encanto
And melody of memory from KINGDOM HEARTS.
I think there is a massive crossover coming
@eddog6666 What does that even have to do with anything?
@@megatoonEJE golden butterfly is part of the lore
The problem on your video is that the HAL team confirmed that there is no timeline, so this video is completely pointless now.
@@courage1363 I was told to study the Kirby timeline which took my whole weekend so I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear that
Edit: my friends told me to study it
King dedede spends 80% of his time controlled by someone else god damn
*Lillie toss a Pokéball at and capture Clawroline* I got myself an ultra kitty!!!
r/hadastroke
@@xyrongonzalez3833 r/ihadastroke
@@xyrongonzalez3833 oh don't worry she's been here for longer than you remember
Lillie has gotten the evolution of Alolan Sprigatito.
Better cringed message czcams.com/video/owBhCgqGrS0/video.html
Kirby went from, fat penguin look haha kirb ballon, to: funky nightmare dude, and then floating eyeball quickly
You're talking about the timeline but missed a lot of important details and lore. Magolor wasn't destroyed, he was confirmed to survive and he apologized to Kirby in Dream Collection.
Which is cause this is just about the timeline, not lore specifically. :P
@Sinteleon That’s not getting into specifics of the lore that don’t affect the timeline. That’s a major character being not actually dead
DUDE the end of robobot was so sad i remember at the end when kirby was floating back down to planet popstar you could actually see the mec crying which shows that it was sentient the entire time and you can see it in this video as well
Kirby isn't the god of popstar, he is the champion of popstar, and you can also lose, it's About skills and mood
Same lol, I played a bit of Kirby's epic yarn as prince fluff with my sister (it was one of her Christmas presents) and that's how i got into Kirby.
I still remember that damn train level in sweet land or whatever it's called, worst controls in any video game i've played; that train has.
Man popstar really can't catch a break can it
Ight so - Big spoilers but ,
The events that set off "The Forgotten Land" come before the first Kirby game. It's said that the people of that world Captured Elfilis and experimented on it. But 30 years ago ( Which is when the first Kirbo Game came out ) something * Happened * and a "Warp Related Accident" occurred. It's also highly implied ( though arguably not directly stated ) that the people of "The Forgotten Land" Escaped to the world of Dreams. This gave me major SOMA vibes. In that their world was possibly dying and in it's last days an accident occurred that forced the majority of residence to escape or "Forgo" their land / existence there.
While Pop Star is called "Dream Land" all of the worlds in that universe would be apart of "Dream Land" . That whole reality is *Someone's* Dream. OR a COLLECTIVE of Someone's.
Anyway, it's possible the people here that escape form the Ancients using what they have learned from Elfilis and split into those two factions. Elfilis it's self is a combination of magic and science to begin with. Having a design that is inspired from Hermes, Biblical Angels, Deer, and rabbits you can pick apart the portions that would be favored by one group or the other. But I digress -
At the end of the game you come to have this information
1 ) The Forgotten Land was already dying.
2 ) It is SAID Elfilis had come to 'end' the world. However this is by the word of the assailant. As noted by Leon, Elfilis had granted the people of the forgotten world a 'great power' at no point does he note the creature as have being destructive. While that could also be argued that he was being controlled at the time - none of the others really seemed to have an issue with it. As they are NATURE there are some implications that could be taken from that.
3 ) It's more then likely - Design Given and the above taken into consideration - Elfilis had come has a MESSENGER to the people to help them advance . A Messenger who was abducted, tortured, and made to go insane over a long period of time. Releasing Elfilin from it's body as the last bit of good it had left in it ( After all why would an 'EVIL' creature do such a thing? )
4 ) This insanity can be gathered by how the 3rd phase of the chaos fight starts. Hear the song "Tour Our- Our-" and put into perspective that It had to hear that over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again until the 'accident' happened.
So yeah - for the last 30 years Elfilis has been trying to break free after [ Gods know how many years ] of torment it's been through. But it all starts BEFORE the first game .
Also Canvas Curse is important to the time line. Drawicca's brush may have been created by the Magic Ancients and she, herself, may have been a product of their creation mixed with Dark Matter - with her . . .daughter? Children? in other games. She is also the start of the Soul Battles.. . Side note to that the STAR ROD was also a creation by the magic Ancients : |
Perhaps Galacta Knight's origin is related somewhat to Super Kirby Fighter's Aeon Hero.
Aeon Hero is Galacta Knight's previous name. Back when he helped seal Void Termina as one of the four ancient heroes.
15:48 the true karby is here
Kirby: Eats food and takes naps
Also Kirby: kills ultimate god-like creature
Me: Ah yes, perfectly normal kirby game
So i'm interested in Morpho Knight lore and here is how i think it works kinda, Morpho Knight can't keep their knight form without absorbing some strong warrior, one that is usually considered ultimate or strongest. It doesn't seem interested in absorbing any inhabitants of Popstar despite kirby and meta knight being stronger than those beings. So the butterfly must have some crazy connection to them to not want to "consume them" to keep its form stable
It probably knows to follow Kirby to find those strong warriors
Kirby and King Dedede, from enemies to friends
What I love about it is just how he dumbs a metric ton of lore on the origin of Kirby so casually
24:13 spoilers
Ok so thats why morpho knight is there, the butterfly got sucked too
Pre final boss in this game is more terryfing than everything in eldering
can dedede stop getting possessed lmaooo
I've been waiting for this all weekend.
This timeline reading plays out like a storybook and I love it
Loved this video!
Great Job on another Timeline Video Commonwealth Realm!
I wouldn’t quite say “great” job
@@ZachPlum I understand your thoughts on this video but this point is pointless due to them confirming there is no timeline so you can take out your anger somewhere else rather than this comment section, thank you
imagine kirby actually got corrupted. It's game over at that point.
He’s positive energy given form so it would be very hard to posese him
@@b8conbear330 That's true. At least there is a viable reason kirby doesn't get corrupted other than because he is the main character.
It would be cool and interesting though,
25:01 Nice transition there.
Return to dreamland was the best installment ngl
I feel planet Robobot was a bit better
I agree for the most part however I have yet to play forgotten land and that might dethrone return to dreamland as my favorite
Man your videos never disappoint
Just a correction, magolor never dies, he just get traumaticed and give up
For whatever reason, the robotic vocoded voice representing Star Dream somehow made the dialog way funnier...
this sound so epic,i love this
everything that has a single eye is a ruler of the darkworld confirmed
Im noticing a trend with meta knight and king dedede being mind controled
The narrator sounds like the voice for Kirby battle royale and the storyteller of epic yarn
Take a shot when someone ends up being possessed in a Kirby game. Demonic possession seems to be the name of the game here.
Dedede must be incredibly comfortable real estate too.
If I'm honest, out of any of these games squeak squad is still my favourite for gameplay variety. It just has sooooo much in it
Finally! Someone who acknowledges that epic yarn is cannon!!
I love the timeline, hopefully the next installment adds some more information.
I love this kirby timeline and I hope you get 1m subscribe and I hope you have a good day
I love the voice. It’s such a good narration voice!!!
A other good vidoe dude keep it up you rock
this guy can summerize anything
15:48 That’s some good
writhing right there
It was a Waddle Dee who really stole Kirby’s Strawberry Shortcake.
Waddle dee has some prices to apy when Kirby find uot
26:48
That’s why he’s called Kirby of the Stars in Japan (and in China & Korea too).
It is kinda spooky to think that humans existed in that world
I have a theory, meta is a child of soul, like Kirby, but instead of being born of joy, he was born of passion. there ain’t much evidence, but I accept it
What nonsense... but I'm not denying that they're related.
Daroach reappears in Mass Attack, so that should be after Squeak Squad.
Also, Dedede’s reluctance to work with Kirby in 64 suggests that the Dark Matter games are set before Adventure.
Actually it would make more sense if he was annoyed with kirby after he screwed everything up.
@@TheRealSuperKirby True, but he’s still fine with working in him in Return to Dream Land and other games.
24:10
Now that makes sense
“ *sorry we made u run around ur entire home planets and probably other planets and make u fight the ruler of the underworld, so heres the slice of cake we stole from u* “
and here we are
Something you missed is that Gooey is actually a piece of dark matter purified by kirby
clicked on the video because I was ready to go down the kirby lore rabbit hole, then I was suckerpunched by the narration from the Storyteller
0:39 ah yes my favorite Kirby enimie. SNAIL
There's a buncha stuff this glosses over, but yeh, that's pretty much the abridged timeline.
I love kirby's epic yarn, it was my first kirby game, i plan to buy Kirby and the Forgotten land, I think I still have my copy of KEP
I always thought that nearly every Kirby game was just a retelling of Kirbys Dream Land
nope
I think that only applies to Spring Breeze and a few of the spinoffs (Pinball Land, Blowout Blast, etc.)
This game will make me cry sometime
Kirby games really don’t usually introduce the final boss before you fight them
That was a good impression for kprb
You have a very good documentary voice
I see meta knight is like a different color of kirby without his helmet
And here we are.
I thought Epic yarn and the rainbow curse weren’t canon.
When you got to star allies, I absolutely cracked up laughing!!!
I have this inkling, hear me out. Since there’s constant talk about Dark Matter, Interdimensional Travel, Space, etc. would it be a stretch, since Kirby does tend to have a sense of dark lore, that Galacta Knight is an evolved Kirby from the distant future where eventually falls from grace…?
Awesome!😄
Hope you enjoy it!
I assume lost world is the scientific counterpart to star Allie’s magical counterpart, since Elfis can teleport stuff, the scientists used him to teleport the magic faction to the edge of the galaxy, if it were to be another dimension we would probably get that dimensions version of dark matter
Is it just me or... Does this guy sound like the Pokemon narrative guy from the anime during the Sinnoh seasons?
Kirby and the crystal shards doesn't actually take place immediately after Kirby's Dreamland 3, and it isn't actually the same Zero entity that he fights at the end either. It's a callback, yeah, but it's a slightly different entity, and I think the crystal shard dark matter wisps are called something different too, but idk
The Dark Matters that we see in that game are part of the Dark Matter-cloud, which is the same cloud we see in Dreamland 3. Normally they aren't sentient, but I guess this time three of them just are, lol. And 02 is pretty much the body revived because only the core was destroyed in DL3.
And now a semi truck is one of Kirby's end weapons.
I love how this dude sounds like the narrator from epic yarn and now I want him to say something feels like pants
Something feels like pants
Villains in Kirby: white blob with eye and black blob with eye and butterfly