Stock Coyote 5.0L Runs 9s - Wheeliefest & Tricks to Max Out Foxbody Mustang Horsepower & Traction!
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- How the heck do you run 9s at 130-plus mph with a stock Coyote 5.0 engine? We dig in an get all the secrets to get your all-motor Coyote making maximum power and hooking like a rocket!
Shout out to ClutchTamer getting some shine - INCREDIBLE product, less than $200 to get real deal $1000+ slipper clutch performance, and I'm not exaggerating. Get a pressure plate with the appropriate base pressure for your horsepower, sintered iron single plate clutch disc, and you'll have a drag racing clutch setup that will last for a while(can get a season or more out of a disc, but it all depends on how many passes you make, how much clutch slip you put in, etc.), be consistent, with a fully adjustable clutch slip rate, and works like a street clutch when you want it to.
And, as a bonus, you adjust it right from the driver's seat, don't even have to crawl under the car like a slipper clutch requires. When you're going to drive on the street, just back out the ClutchTamer and you'll have a normal street clutch, no laying on your back removing shims to put more base pressure in.
It makes a manual trans setup tire agnostic - no more being stuck with slicks just because you have a clutch. Because the rate of slip is fully tunable, you can make your setup dead hook off the line w/o bogging, exactly what radials need.
Just wish MORE classes allowed them, it's the ultimate manual trans tuning tool for us low buck grassroots racers, it costs very little money while dramatically increasing consistency and tunability(not to mention it saves parts by removing the shock load of a clutch drop; have a stock T5 living behind a 400HP 306"W & in front of 275 Mickey radials with the CT) of a manual trans combo - yet you'll see them banned from the rules of some classes, necessitating a $1000+ racing clutch that's purpose built to fit within the rules.
Obviously I can't say enough good things about the product, it just doesn't have any real downsides, and it works BETTER than most people think(Google it, you'll see lots of bad mouthing it as a "screen door hack" from people who have never used one - ESPECIALLY from the slipper clutch guys).
As far as I'm concerned, the ClutchTamer is the manual trans equivalent of a trans brake. Save for some vintage-oriented classes(gassers and what not), it should be treated the same as a trans brake is in drag classes today. To not allow it is to screw the budget racer, requiring thousands to be spent on a manual trans combo instead of hundreds(I would have to consider my T5 a "wear item", swap it for a stronger more expensive trans, or run a $1000+ slipper clutch if I wasn't running a
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, I can see how it works on launch, but how does it work on the other gear shifts?
I'm assuming that you wouldn't want the clutch to slip the same through all gear changes right?
@@TrojanHorse1959 I believe the transmission used in this series are clutchless after first gear. Might also look into the Mansbrake.
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@@prtyof4156, Ahh, ok, thank you!
Love coyote stock!!! Wish there were more races around me
This is the best ford mustang channel on youtube
love that coyote stock class it sends chills down my spine it takes me back to the B super modified NHRA classes wish we had it on the West Coast .the high reving engine sound is music to my ears
Tim Donathen is the man! He’s local to me and the only guy that touches my mustang!
I'll never forget reading muscle mustangs and fast fords magazine and those great articles you put in. Learned a ton about mustangs from you and that wonderful magazine.
Congrats on is superb driving and great content has always.
Thanks
All in the setup
Great video and interview Evan, thank you!
P.S. Gnarly one-wheel wheelie and wall ride too!
If there is one class I could run right now - this would be it! Just need this Powerball ticket to hit LOL!
czcams.com/video/x0PNLp4mxBA/video.html Beater Bomb Mustang
@@davesracingchannel9261 ill never LS Swap a fox lol
@@davesracingchannel9261 Completely different class with power adders, 10s of thousands more into the cars. Even the beater bomb.
With time and common sense, all chevy powered Fords will be just a bad memory.
7:40 Love that old dude.
What a great category.
Great content Evan! Love the class
Thank you
I wanted to run Coyote Stock when it first came out, but was having too much fun and winning some in ModMotor.
7:24 Now there's something ya don't see everyday.
Opp got me again. That itch
Oh yes Badass Fords
OK, love this video so I'm watching it again. Noticing Frank reminds me of a Young Michael Ian Black 😮😅
Great video! It was a blast seeing these guys race in person!
Maan his transmission shifts smooth!
Faceplated transmissions and the Clutch Tamer allow clutchless shifting. Like I said, the class all about clutch tuning, everybody has the same tires and same suspension. Some have ceramic wheel bearings and in other places but beyond that, it's exactly as explained.
Got 2 foxbodies for sale ...
Im unable to finsish either want to sell to another foxbody fan.
1 82 mercury capri,non op.
Motor has all machine work done , assembled shortblock. Was a daily driver before i began restoring , pulled engine , cleaned engine bay (media blasted and sealed) .
4speed trans, pulled and cleaned. Small rear end (not an 8.8) its factory . 2.83 gears i believe.
Other car is 87 GT speed density car .
Roller with cowl hood & 4 lug black cobras .no motor or trans , back tags.
Both cars are in bakersfield .
Need both gone asap.
Respond to this if willing to meet in person and pickup or i can help coordinte shipping.
Great class!
My favorite track
Clutch Tamer FTW :-)
While I certainly prefer all FORD racing regardless of specific class...I do not prefer the wheelies I'm seeing in this video. Is there a specific reason why these cars aren't sporting wheelie bars to help control their runs and stay off the guard rails?
Great video and racing action shots. I thought they still run Gen 1 engines but now they can run Gen 2.
This Clutch Tamer sounds interesting, i assume it's for a cable? I will have to look into that. It's quite something these engines make that sort of power with stock cams and intake. I would imagine the Boss 302 intake and aftermarket cams could pick that up a bunch for a non-CS car.
Thanks for watching! Those parts would make nice gains. Gen 3 is coming in 2021.
Almost all the gains are the Clutch Tamer. Between the 60 ft and clutch slip, they are utilizing almost all the power available. Even the record 9.65@138 is still off a bit from optimal (9.56 vs. 9.65). Cams and Intake will help but the Tamer will get your stock combination down into the low 11's or high 10's on drag radials. Brentspeed ran 10.70's with a Clutch Tamer and a stock Gen 2 Coyote in a S195 that came with a V6, look on his channel. Stock engine, headers, exhaust, JLT intake, tuned on VP MS109 I believe.
@@revanevan can you put a clutch tamer on the 350? Gotta know
The HP to weight on these cars just doesn't add up. How do they do it with just 460 HP. It should be more around 600+...
I reckon the motor from Ford is making more then they claim, and alot of tuner I reckon to
Engine is factory rated at 435 hp with SAE testing. Remove unnecessary front engine dress, add CAI, headers and performance calibration and it’s more like 500 hp crank. These cars are amazingly efficient so 9s at 3,100 is 100% legit.
Every car in the Coyote Stock class runs a factory sealed Coyote, with a factory ECU and they all run the same tune per the rules. The ECUs get flashed at the track during tech and sometimes between rounds. They do run race gas and it certainly sounds like they are turning more RPM , so definitely more power than a showroom GT makes. The purpose of the class is to keep costs low (comparatively), and to showcase chassis/suspension tuning and especially driver mods.
@@virtigo4 Well aware of that. The HP numbers still make no sense to me at all
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I was thinking the same. Gotta be some bad shifting
I'm building a monster fox side exhaust single turbo billet block.
will there be any more videosn the 7.3 godzilla?
Yes, coming up!
If your not a Ford guy/gal and you stumbled upon this video; don't go away angry and leave a thumb down 'just go away and 'thank you. "😏
The LS guys get so butt hurt
Geeany auto body..spot on m8..
So is it safe to say these cars have around a 3.00 1st gear and 1.00 4th?
Enjoyed the show and information ! As always . I'm interested in putting a 4.56 gear in a 2017gt350 would it require me shift into 5th gear in the 1320 . Thanks for you're information it would be greatly appreciated. 11.65 with a 1.90 60 ft best pass so far with a stock tune in drag mode ,clutch tamer is on my list for the winter. Been reading you're experience for a long time. Keep up the great work.
No with that long geared trans 456 is perfect do it and dont look back. You wont run out of gear if you're all motor.
@@midnight347 Thanks for the information. I've been wanting to do 4.56 since I purchased the car. That gear change should put me solid in the 10 second zone. 275 /60 15 drag radials on the back. Great plan drop them in and don't look back! Thanks again 👍
Finally. This is what I’ve been dying to see for years now. A properly geared GT350... stock 373s are too long for that 8200 rpms.
"Intergalactic" yet not a single Galaxie to be found. 😾 hehehe. Hey, can an '86 Cougar run in this class? Is this series anywhere in the Southwest?
I think Cougars have run in the class before. They have had some cool cars in the class. I'm not sure NMRA travels that far though.
@@lx2nv Thanks for the reply. I did check the event schedule and nope, nothing on this side of the Galaxy. Seems that is always the case. I bought this '86 new and I'm trying to find a reason to resurrect it and keep it from the crusher. Oh well, don't have the personnel to run with the big dogs, anyway. I woulda thought that race organizers could figure out how guys can compete with each other nationwide on the same day. They could call it Zoomin' Drags.
@@413x398 I would say there is never a good reason to crush a foxbody! LOL. Are there any west coast series that you can run? I am fortunate to have 5 strips within a 2.5 hour drive. Now I just need to get my car back together LOL
@@lx2nv The only series out here is the Summit brackets. Our tracks are fewer and further apart, but much less apt to get aced by weather throughout the year. Right now the schedule is eviscerated by the fake Vid nonsense, even though we don't have lockdowns or mandatory mask edicts. Probably a good time to build something and see what 2021 brings.
@@413x398 Good luck!
Can you put a clutch tamrr on the 350?any one know,drooling here.
One of my favorite classes in drag racing. What transmission are they using?
G-Force G101 4-speed
Why are this class set up to wheelie so hard? I hear everyone else talking about trying to tame down wheelies claiming they hurt e/t.
They can't run an adjustable clutch/wheelie bars
@@hs400 The clutch tamer allows you to adjust the hit of the clutch and the slip between gears. That is where all the speed and wheel standing comes from. You are correct you don't want too much of a wheelstand but it looks great.
@@dj4monie gotcha, thanks Ant.
Pretty cool class🤔 question didn't hear it in the interview, but what about the weight limits and does it differ between like fox body and or sn95 chassis?
3100 doesn't have to be a Fox. He profiled a Canadian that runs a Thunderbird. Classic Mustangs, even a Maverick run this class.
Where u get the jacket and your ford apperal
Got it from Ford.
It's physically impossible for a 430 HP engine to run 9s in a 3100 ib car and it's also impossible to make 200 more hp with cold air intake and headers to give it the needed 600 hp to run 9s. What am I missing? Are we talking rwhp?
You are correct. The factory rating is off by at least 100 H.P. It takes 600 Flywheel H.P. to run 133 plus M.P.H. at this weight. Also in cold mine shaft air the engine makes considerable more H.P. My firebird has been 10.04 at 133 in killer air and in mid summer in the heat would only run 10.40s at 129 M.P.H. The air intake adds 20 - H.P.
What you’re missing is the ford fan boys club of greatly stretching the definition of stock. Let them bring their “stock” motor to a NHRA event and it will be show to be very unstock and the claim of the factory hp rating is 100hp short….sure thing. John Force also use’s a stock motor only he added two cold air packages to his cars.
What transmissions do they run?
G-force 101 4 speed.
Hooooly smokes STOCK?????
Stock engine. Chassis tuning and clutch tuning. The problem is too many people make up all that with more power and that's fine, it's just isn't as efficient.
Stock 8.8 🤣😂🤣