2 WORST And 8 BEST Things About The 2023 Ford F150 Tremor
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
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0:00 - Intro
BAD
0:27 - Price
So here’s the thing, on paper, and at starting, the Tremor starts at like 16k less than a Raptor, which is a big difference
HOWEVER, as tested this truck is optioned up to 74k, which is like 13k over starting and is dangerously close to Raptor money
So I went on Ford’s website, and specced out a Raptor in a VERY similar way to what we have here and it was less than 10k more
1:08 - The Engine
Let me just say, i love V8s, I love the 5-0 coyote here, and I love the sound you gfet with this V8 here
HOWEVER, when you really look at it on paper, it’s objectively the worse choice - because the Ecoboost 3.5 V6 is a no-cost option and with the EcoBoost you get 40 more HP, 80 more lbft, almost 1,000 more ls of towing, AND beter fuel economy
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GOOD:
1:53 - The Offroad stuff
The Tremor package is the Raptor-Lite package, and with it comes some really nice offroad features
First of all, as you’d expect, every Tremor come standard with 4x4
But you Also get an extra inch and a half lift in back and an inch in front
Clearance just under 11 inches
You still get leaf springs in the back versus the 5-link in the raptor BUT you get tremor specific shocks and they’re pretty dang good
You get skid plates
You get recovery hooks front and rear
You get General Grabber A/T tires
Which are awesome, quiet, and good in the wet
You get a rear locker
You get trail control
You get trail cameras
And you get trail turn assist, but try not to use it too much as it’s hard on your diff
And you also get the 6 overhead toggles for auxiliary accessories, just like the Raptor
2:48 - The Tremor Gold
The tremor get’s a unique color dedicated exclusively for this trim, and it’s this really cool gold..and it’s everywhere
3:22 - The Tech
This Tremor here is stuffed with tech features that are all really nice and helpful
You’ve got vivid 360 cameras to help with trailering and offroading
You’v got your trailering assists here
Wireless ACP
Pro Power is still one of my FAVORITE things ever
Here you get up to 2kW output, same as the raptor
Zone lighting - 4 zones
Blue Cruise
Huge infotainment screen with dual things on screen
Fully digital cluster is really nice
And finally, you have really nice B&O audio
4:09 - Truck Stuff
This Tremor isn’t just good offroad, but you of course have one of the most practical appliances out there underpinning it
Here with the V8 engine you get 10,000 lbs towing
You get 1885 lbs payload
But you still have Pro Power
Oh, and all tremors are the super crew with 5.5 ft bed
You’ve got raptor running boards but they Ford and not raptor
And there’s a host of other things we’ve already mentioned like Zone lighting etc.
4:54 - The drive
Remember how I said, you gotta really like V8 sound to justify the V8 here?
Well yeah it sounds pretty awesome
You have more Raptor style exhausts than normal F150
Also, I mentioned that the Tremor gets the leaf springs every other F150 rather than the multi-link in the Raptor
However, the shocks here are tuned really well
You’ve got nice travel with a supple ride
The cabin is nice and quiet
The engine gives great power
400 hp
410 lbft
The 10 speed isn’t my favorite here, i miss the paddle shifters fr omthe Raptor, but if you drive it like a normal person it’s mostly fine
Ultimately, it may not be Raptor smooth here, but it’s probably top 3 - nice job Ford
5:56 - The Luxuries
This may be a pickup truck, but it’s got some really nice stuff in here
Heated and cooled seats
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
Pano roof option
And blue cruise
And wireless car play
I mean, if luxury is convenience, this is a very luxurious ride
6:20 - Looks cool
I’ve always liked this gen of F150 and I like it even more with this sweet avalanche paint
6:55 - Rear seats
And finally we’ll talk rear cabin practicality
The rear seats are WILDLY spacious
The seats are comfortable
They’re heated
You’ve got a huge flat floor
Chargers, seat pockets, cupholders, vents
Ands you’ve got that pano roof option to bring in light to it all - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Love mine. Checks so many boxes. It hits high points for work, "truck stuff" like towing, super comfortable for the family on trips and keeps up with friends toys off-road. 3.5 eco boost is no slouch (passes most vehicles without breaking a sweat in 'eco mode' on the highway) and I agree with your comment about choosing 3.5 or 5.0 is purely a test of whether or not you're ready to be a 'grown up' :)
V8 is must
If I bought one I would have to get a sand colour and have a big tremor decal (from the movie) on the side.
40 more HP with the 3.5EB?? Not true! They both have 400HP!
@@lukaszmatyszewski7198He was talking about the option between the 5.0 and the 3.5EB IN THE TREMOR not the Raptor! He even said it's a no cost option to select that instead of the 5.0. Also he said 40 not 50. Grow a brain, goofball.
His facts are straight. He is talking about the 5.0 and the 3.5 EB in the Tremor. He is not talking about the raptor bubbs
@@Seth-ux6fxthey both have 400hp
@@Seth-ux6fx the limited and higher trims get the option for the ho 3.5 that's the same as the raptors HP and torque numbers
@@xQsBNoSCoPeZz And technically you can get the same H.O. output from a standard 3.5 by tuning so, either way, its still the same all around
Very happy with my 401a with the 3.5 ecoboost. I don’t regret going with this engine over the 5.0 coyote after driving both. Torque is almost instant and daily drivability is unlike any other truck engine. Very impressed.
Nice 😎
The 3.5 is overall a superior motor to the 5.0. If you want the 5.0 buy the car it was designed for. The mustang . More power more torque and quicker.
@@jimsteinway695but not as reliable as the 5.0
@@dwnshft I have a 2023 Tremor, in Antimatter Blue Metallic with the V8.
Is it “gold”? I call it orange. 🙂
I would argue that the V8 is more reliable. Not just me talking…I think Ford mechanics would agree.
I think the 10 speed is a bit much. I feel like 6 or even 8 gears would have been plenty.
@@jimsteinway695having owned both- I just disagree. With 3.73’s- the 5.0 gets into power extremely quick- and after 30 mph it definitely pulls harder than the 3.5. The sound alone makes it worth it, as does the throttle response. Add in long term reliability (over 100k) and to me it’s a no brainer. So happy with the coyote.
Sorry but as a tech my self u should go with the v8, less to go wrong ,that's assuming u care about reliability. I've owned both options and the v8 is so much better,also Im getting sick of fixing all the ecoboost issues and there not cheap fixes either. From cam fazers to the coolant lines for turbos that leak, yes I fix 5.0 as well bt not as often and it's less cost for the customer.
Very underrated video! This and the description of the video is fantastic.
Ive grown up with Fords and I plan on getting the 402a 5.0 in about a year or 2.
I cannot wait its such a great truck.
Great video
🙏
Built my tremor and opted for the eco this time around. My Gen3 coyote f150 was quite the tick machine. And the cylinder deactivation in the gen4 is the weak link unfortunately so slipped the v8 this go. Having 90+ more tq in the eco is nice i must say.
Ford needs to open direct dealerships that only handles online sales. You pick up the vehicle no destination or dealer add-ons. I would open a couple of them in Tennessee
would be nice
I would take the 5.0. The 3.5 Ecoboost is much more problematic in my experience and I have owned 3. I drive defensively and conservatively so if there is a 40 hp difference it would make much difference to me. Also, if I'm getting close to maxing out the truck for towing I think I need to be in a bigger truck. I tow a lot. Cargo trailers flat beds, heavy equipment.... With that said, I do think the 3.5 is a very good engine as long as it holds up.
Does it matter 3.31 or 3.73 axle gear?
Totally incorrect on engines, stock the 5.0L is 20 more horsepower than the EcoBoost. It’s a flex fuel engine and E-85 capable, and makes 420 on E-85. Unless you tune the EcoBoost and void your warranty it can’t make the same horsepower as the V8. Both make 400 horsepower on premium.
This is true, but I have heard that the number is as high as 435 hp.
-Also in states like New York and California, it can save you up to 40% on fuel costs. E-85 was $2.13/G in NY state yesterday.
-Then there's a 90% it saves you in emissions.
-Then there is the fact that the 5.0L can easily fit a front hidden winch!
-It can also be supercharged to over 700 hp with warranty!
I think he missed a few things! ...like it weighs 50 lbs less then the EB.
The bummer is gen4 f150 coyote is plagued with cyl deactivation causing alot of issues.
@DJS100 well if you opt for the optional factory approved super charger there is no competition.🏁🎉
@raptordc5 Haven't had a single issue with mine, and I have over 8k on it.
In Canada they have same horsepower and 3.5 has 40 more ft.lbs . Actually haven't seen a tremor in Canada with a 5.0. I've been thinking of trading and this is what I'm thinking of. All 3.5 so far.
Don't forget, with the 5.0L you can add either the Ford Performance (Whipple 3.0L) or the Roush (Eaton 2.65L) supercharger kit, either of which comes with a 36 mon/36k mile powertrain warranty. Ford Performance also has a version of their SC kit that works with the dual alternators that come with Pro Power Onboard. The Roush kit will not work with Pro Power Onboard. The Ford kit bumps the output to 700 HP and 590 LB FT while the Roush kit has 705 HP and 635 LB FT. Can't get there with the EB, at least not with a warranty.
I just bought a new 2023 Tremor with the 5.0L and Pro Power Onboard along with a boatload of other options for less than MSRP. Can you guess what one of the first mods will be?
Without the supercharger the 3.5 is faster and can tow better. The 5.0 is designed for the Mustang. High revving low torque motor. The 3.5 has 100 more torque . If you’re buying for a show truck the 5.0 is ok. If it’s a working truck then the 3.5 is a better motor. You need to change the oil more but there a reason Toyota went to the 3.5 twin turbo. The 5.0 is not a good choice for a truck. If you want the coyote buy a mustang that’s the proper application
According to my Ford dealer mechanics the 2nd gen 3.5 is every bit as reliable as the 5.0
@@jimsteinway695the 5.0 is a good towing engine as well. Pulled 10k pounds from Texas to Alabama with one and got better mileage than an ecoboost.
I love the look of the raptor, and that buttery smooth drive of its rear five link coil suspension, but I am concerned about the width of the tires washing me around from side to side in tracks made for more narrow standard vehicles, from trails to highway tracks in deep snow between lanes during big snowstorms, and the Tremor is basically the standard width maybe an inch or two wider so fine. Kind of like the Raptor is an open space runner and the Tremor is a trail runner. So I'm torn. Any thoughts on that? I'm also considering a loaded Platinum with the fx4 and some mods like a lift and offset, to get those luxury seats for the long highway drives. Any thoughts on that? Wish I could get the Raptor's 5 link rear suspension and the Platinum's max luxury massaging, reclining seats all in the Tremor. Round and round. Help.
Tremor is most definitely a trail truck and raptor is most definitely a baja based truck… that’s the main difference, they’re not made for the same purpose or environment even though they’re both “off road trucks”
Platinum f150s are disgusting… if you want a platinum get a 250-350 platinum with the tremor package otherwise it just looks like a neutered truck
I’m 2 weeks late but how’s general reliability on 22/23 f150s
I drove both the raptor and the tremor. I ended up going with the tremor 402A cause I still need to tow my boat and trailers around. But I still get some good off-road capabilities. It's so plush, but still a solid truck. Plus, I already have a sxs, but I didn't really need the raptor. Ultimately, the towing capacity is what made my decision.
sounds like a sensible decision, enjoy!
I think your mistaken about the 3.5 V6 getting better mpg than the Coyote. I get 16 with my 3.5 and I here that the Coyote gets 4 mpg better.
i would spec out this same truck, and charge it. keep the 5.0 with a WARRANTIED Whipple. now u are competing with TRX and Raptor R
I'm not too sure about the HP claim for the V-6. I think they are essentially the same for 2023. The twin-turbo does have the torque advantage though. I chose the coyote with the intention of supercharging it. After getting 20+ mpg combined over a few thousand miles, I am dealing with a conundrum. I'm getting better mpg than anyone I know with the twin turbo (calculated mpg, not what the truck says).
I bought the truck for the off-road goodies (Torsen) and (to a lesser extent) as a protest to Toyota removing tow hooks this year and still not having a Tundra rear locker (and dropping a very reliable but gas thirsty V-8) because this will eventually be a work truck. My biggest complaint with the Tremor so far is occasional CPU glitches. I started it up one day and it sounded like it was running on 3 cylinders. I turned it off and when I started it again, everything was fine. Oh, the other issue was that while driving on the highway last week the collision alarm went off with not even a grasshopper within a 100 yards. Peace, Love!!
I have gotten as high as 22 with my Tremor Ecoboost.
That is with good fuel (no gasahol)
The price comparison is an irrelevant factor in my opinion as it only weighs on folks that don’t understand the two trucks.
Even if they were the same price as optioned, folks needing tow capacity equipped daily driver will likely still gravitate to the Tremor, where as true off-road fans will need to give up some of that for the off-road capabilities offered by the Raptor.
In this sense they’re two different vehicles more so than two different trim levels as the price comparison implies.
Didn’t see a button for the heated steering wheel.
Are the seats in the tremor less comfortable than a Lariat?
The yellow dotted seats are horrible in the tremor for tgat reason lariat is better.
Fords are number 1!
Just me but the thing i hate the most with the tremor is the gold everywhere. And the tremor on every single seat
Not true on the Cost. Loaded Tremor 2022/2023's $74-75K range MSRP. You can get these under Invoice which you cannot do on the Raptors ! Tremor is amazing!
Raptors are still going for 8-15 over msrp as well... coyote is also no price difference.
And if you put a ford performance supercharger on it, it's a budget raptor r
Without the supercharger the 5.0 is a really poor choice for a truck. That’s why it’s a no cost option. The 3.5 is more powerful. The 3.5 tows better. The 3.5 is faster. The 3.5 has way more torque. The 3.5 is what Toyota uses now for a damn good reason. You can chip the 3.5 to 700 hp
I want one in black or blue so bad lol. Could care less of ots an 8 or a V6. I have 6 more months
Avalanche Gray otherwise known as primer gray.
The 3.5 turbo does not get better gas mileage. They get about the same. However it is better for towing the 3.5 turbo.
But if you stretch from an XLT - Tremor is the best !
it is pretty cool
Building an XLT loaded up and a Tremor 401a they come in very close in price here in Canada.
Factor in factory lift and good off road tires.....which I would have to do it's a no brainer for me to go with a Tremor next F150.
From what I've seen, the 3.5 doesn't give a truly significant increase in fuel efficiency compared to the 5.0.
Unless you live at high altitude, maybe.
If just gives you shit loads of torque and power vs the 5.0l
Power is the same, 400 horsepower. Torque is not power. The 5.0 actually is capable of more horsepower than the 3.5 on the stock file, since it’s a flex fuel engine and most dynos show 360-370 horse at the rear wheel stock on E-85. That puts the 5.0 well over 400 horsepower before any tune is introduced.
It’s either eco or boost your choice.
Ford needs to redesign the F150 so its not a brick driving through the air
2023 is better than 2024 I mean in shape
400 hp AND 500 ft tq
Eco and cayote both got 400 hp dude ......eco edges in terms of torque only...
I wish I could combine the interior of the Tremor with the engine and exterior of the 6.2L GMC Sierra AT4. I dream.
I don’t agree regarding the engine. I have the 3.5 in my ST Explorer and I think it’s junk. Coyote is the way to go.
I thought ST’s have the 3.0 ecoboost? Same as the Braptor
Yea that’s a 3.0 not a 3.5 and that 3.0 rips in the Explorer St.
Horsepowers the same don’t know where you got 80 more horsepower from?
Ecoboost is the worst thing
how so?
Raptors are poor towing vehicles. If you want a truck to work/tow the tremor is a better truck. If you want a toy get the raptor
I really want another Raptor, had an 2020 802a, but I'm also looking at getting a travel trailer, so this has me leaning towards a Tremor. Payload is the limiting factor for the trailer I want - Tremor still isn't a huge towing vehicle but has about 300 more lbs of payload.
NO FOX live valve shock,, no good for serious off road condition,,, man,, and the locker only for the rear,,, not the front,, this is only half good,, not the whole thing good...like raptor----which offer front and rear lockers,,
tremor rear suspension still use leave spring----which is out dated,,,passive...
Of course, but Tremor is like what 30k less than raptor? I would say next best thing to it
WRONG! The Raptor is an open front diff from 2023 onward. Prior Gen 3 (MY 21 and 22), front was Torsen as was previous Gen 2 Raptors, no locking front diff ever on Raptor (i dn't know about Gen 1). Tremor has a Torsen option, Raptor does not, only open diff.
Tremor still has Torsten and raptor uses brakes
Dang… ford guy much?
The horsepower is the same, 400 and 400. 3.5 or 5.0. You are talking 5.0 Tremor vs 3.5 Raptor, 400 vs 450. If you make a video...know your numbers or shut up. If you don't know... what is the review for???
ok but the point still stands coyote vs ecoboost
The new ecoboost 3.5 rips.
@@dogshmog Not like my Whiiple supercharged 5.0... My 2023 F150 is at 800 horsepower and way faster than my buddies 2023 Raptor... just saying. I am a retired Ford Senior Master tech, and hate the 3.5 issues even though I realize it is amazingly powerful and was thrilled when it came out. I would hate to work on one. I have a 2023 5.0 Platinum with the blower for my street hot rod truck, and a 2023 5.0 Tremor for my daily driver. With E85 Livernoise tune and exhaust, 465+ horse power, and doesn't sound like it has a corn cobb stuck up it's ass. I just love that V8 sound. Cannot be matched. To each there own, but my trucks do not go back to the dealer, I repair them. You can keep the Eco boost. I can share pics of my trucks if you need verification and yes, I installed my blower myself.
The new Coyote 5.0L rips.
One of the ugliest looking trucks out there.