The Boss. The One Who Waits. The Toymakers' legions. Mrs. Flood. Susan Triad. Ruby's origins. And now the memory TARDIS. I'm concerned amidst all these ongoing mysteries they might forget to tell some good individual stories. Is every episode going to have to refer to one or more of these themes? RTD is strong on thematics, less good on plot and the fact he's written so much of this season suggests we could have more than a couple of episodes that surrender their storyline to these mystery boxes. Much as i love The Giggle, it takes a big tonal shift to deal with the bi-generation. Really hoping we get stories like Midnight or even Wild Blue Yonder that arent saddled with these mystery boxes.
I’m similarly a bit worried about how many Mysteries they have set up. I made a video about it a few Months ago. I think a lot of shows have forgotten that story arcs don’t HAVE to be mysteries.
@@CulturePhilter or that there doesn't have to be much of an arc at all. Ecclestons series was strong, with a great finale, but the Bad Wolf arc was referred to fleetingly and was the only mystery. Which allowed stories like Dalek and The Empty Child to breathe.
@@AllThePiecesMatter_ I like arcs. But EVERY Doctor Who arc has taken the form of a mystery. I’d really like to see an arc with a developing situation without a mystery element. Star Trek DS9 did this well with the gradual build up of the dominion war… Doctor Who has never done anything like that in the modern age.
My theory is that something happens to Ruby...Maybe she gets removed from existence and people deny that she exists and the Doctor visits the Memory TARDIS to bring back everyone's memories of Ruby and in return Ruby herself. Or something happened when he was out of the TARDIS and in order to figure out what happened, he uses the Memory TARDIS to replay the events of his absence, like the pensieve in Harry Potter.
so they might not have made the set for tales of the tardis? it was already laying around and built for season 1? tales of the tardis must’ve been even cheaper to make than we thought!
I have a feeling even though they were released first Tales is going to effectively be more of a spin-off of whatever happens here than the other way around. I think this was devised of FIRST and the tales capitalized on already having a set built. So Tales won’t be necessary to understand anything that goes on here.
Also sucks that you can't just go and watch the stories they reference in the clips on CZcams in an ideal world they would've put all of doctor who on both Disney plus and I player for those that are intrigued by iconic stories like genesis of the daleks or binge the whole thing if they wish
@@naruto199797 absolutely. Hopefully if this new season is enough of a success for Disney+ they’ll start to add more of the back-catalogs. 2005-2022 is mostly likly to be added next if they do.
IF the 2nd doctor somehow returns (most likely an alternate timeline bigenerated version) I would prefer if he was played by Michael Troughton (Patrick Troughton's son). He played him very well in big finish. They could use the bigeneration to explain his slightly different appearance (that he is older).
Brilliant, I'd love more of the memory tardis!🔮! I wonder if there were some easter eggs slotted into in the Tales series that we'll only realise later.. ..👀
Also, on the Second Doctor recasting, my preference would go to Frazer Hines...And would actually make sense as he was on the Memory TARDIS set for one day to film the sequence for the Mind Robber episode, so he could have easily been back a second day to play The Second Doctor or they shot it on the same day, like Mind Robber in the morning and Season 1 in the afternoon for example.
Top-of-my-head theory: With Mel back in the mix, maybe the memory TARDIS has something to do with Trial of a Time Lord and the Valliard? Maybe I'm just hopeful here, but it would be nice to finally see how Mel met old Sixy!
@@coleenocasturme - in some senses they have. ‘Dalek’ from 2005 was loosely based off Jubilee. And ‘Spare Parts’ inspired both ‘Age of Steel/Rise of the Cybermen’ and ‘World enough and Time/The Doctor Falls’
@@CulturePhilter I think I'd like it to be more clear-cut. It would be my pick for a spin-off - especially the 8th Doctor adventures. I loved that they included the Sisterhood of Karn (sp?!) in The Night of the Doctor. I just want it all canonised! Ok, so I'm greedy... :)
It could be any number of possible things. I hope it’s not a doctor as the huge amount of doctors returning lately would make another cameo appearance underwhelming. My guess is as good as yours here. We’ll just have to wait and see.
This is very intriguing! And if you notice and I only just noticed this but you can see that Mel is behind the Doctor so I'm wondering what this all means... I must admit I do worry as I hope RTD isn't going to uh, canonize his Bigeneration theory though... I hope he doesn't go that far!
I think the dusty planets being in this version has something to do with his reaction. I have no idea what the implications of the memory Tardis will be for a current Doctor, versus bringing together past friends.
Good point. I didn’t talk about the planets in the video… probably should have. Does it mean the planets turning to dust is a vision of some kind rather than something actually happening perhaps?
Im going to put my bet on it not being another Tardis... They've hinted that the Tardis interior will progressively update, with it getting chairs and the random jukebox. Not convinced its the memory Tardis either, looks too big and that round/hexagon decoration has been on many interiors.
It’s not just the hexagon. The two round shapes next to it match where there are some in relation to hexagon in memory TARDIS too. Plus right colour scheme
It would be very cool if the Second Doctor made an appearance to speak with the Fifteenth Doctor, I wonder why they would get drawn to the Memory TARDIS and what it could possibly be about, as it can't be anything good given Ncuti's Doctor screaming in horror. I believe Patrick Troughton's son David would be the perfect casting choice because not only does he look just like his dad but also has a very similar voice as well. Given Russell teased that the bi-generation actually happened across the Doctor's entire timeline, then it very well could be the bi-generated Second Doctor. I do believe that the Doctors who showed up in TOTT were also the bi-generated versions of Five, Six, and Seven so this would add up to this as well, but we'll have to see what happens!
I really hope he doesn’t put that thing about bi-generation happening to all doctors on screen. It doesn’t make sense with how we saw bigeneration work in The Giggle. It almost sounds like Russell is conflating his Bigeneration concept and the concept of parallel timelines where whatever doctor didn’t regenerate.
@@CulturePhilter Yeah I hear you, not saying that will be the case but it was just a theory I came up with based on what he said. Also, do you agree about David Troughton being a good Second Doctor if the rumours turn out to be true?
@@adammarrs9266 he certainly SOUNDS enough like him when he’s played the role on audio. I’m not convinced on looking like him but maybe with the right wig.
Must admit this clip actially got me a bit excited more than the other bits n pieces we have had pushed onro us .....some reason this gave me more of an angle of where we are going than any of the other ones ....im not HYPED or massively EXCITED but it did make me go OOH i get it .....i mean if it goes how i think itll go it might be a good run of episodes BUT i do think a lot of what happens in this seasn wont fully be resolved until end of season 2 so the era is literally habging by a thread by this .... I mean we have seen a lot of amazing different Dr Who eras years and series sibce RTDs first era and i feel RTD is trying to "compete" lightly with what weve had from Moff and Chibnall ....just my angle anyway 💙💙
We should really hand it back to the BBC... where they wouldnt show anything except 1 trailer a couple weeks before the premier. Yeah no thanks. I would much prefer we see too much than see so little that the general public forgets all about Doctor Who airing.
The Boss. The One Who Waits. The Toymakers' legions. Mrs. Flood. Susan Triad. Ruby's origins. And now the memory TARDIS. I'm concerned amidst all these ongoing mysteries they might forget to tell some good individual stories. Is every episode going to have to refer to one or more of these themes? RTD is strong on thematics, less good on plot and the fact he's written so much of this season suggests we could have more than a couple of episodes that surrender their storyline to these mystery boxes. Much as i love The Giggle, it takes a big tonal shift to deal with the bi-generation. Really hoping we get stories like Midnight or even Wild Blue Yonder that arent saddled with these mystery boxes.
I’m similarly a bit worried about how many Mysteries they have set up. I made a video about it a few Months ago. I think a lot of shows have forgotten that story arcs don’t HAVE to be mysteries.
@@CulturePhilter or that there doesn't have to be much of an arc at all. Ecclestons series was strong, with a great finale, but the Bad Wolf arc was referred to fleetingly and was the only mystery. Which allowed stories like Dalek and The Empty Child to breathe.
@@AllThePiecesMatter_ I like arcs. But EVERY Doctor Who arc has taken the form of a mystery. I’d really like to see an arc with a developing situation without a mystery element. Star Trek DS9 did this well with the gradual build up of the dominion war… Doctor Who has never done anything like that in the modern age.
My theory is that something happens to Ruby...Maybe she gets removed from existence and people deny that she exists and the Doctor visits the Memory TARDIS to bring back everyone's memories of Ruby and in return Ruby herself.
Or something happened when he was out of the TARDIS and in order to figure out what happened, he uses the Memory TARDIS to replay the events of his absence, like the pensieve in Harry Potter.
Good theories.
so they might not have made the set for tales of the tardis? it was already laying around and built for season 1?
tales of the tardis must’ve been even cheaper to make than we thought!
That makes sense with how late in the day Russell has said they decided to make Tales.
@@CulturePhilter yh i was surprised they manage to make a set that quick tbh so that would make more sense
I’m very intrigued by this storyline going on but it feels very frustrating to me because Tales of the TARDIS isn’t available here in America.
I have a feeling even though they were released first Tales is going to effectively be more of a spin-off of whatever happens here than the other way around.
I think this was devised of FIRST and the tales capitalized on already having a set built. So Tales won’t be necessary to understand anything that goes on here.
Also sucks that you can't just go and watch the stories they reference in the clips on CZcams in an ideal world they would've put all of doctor who on both Disney plus and I player for those that are intrigued by iconic stories like genesis of the daleks or binge the whole thing if they wish
@@naruto199797 absolutely. Hopefully if this new season is enough of a success for Disney+ they’ll start to add more of the back-catalogs. 2005-2022 is mostly likly to be added next if they do.
IF the 2nd doctor somehow returns (most likely an alternate timeline bigenerated version) I would prefer if he was played by Michael Troughton (Patrick Troughton's son). He played him very well in big finish. They could use the bigeneration to explain his slightly different appearance (that he is older).
Yeah he’s good at sounding the part. Not sure about the look though.
Brilliant, I'd love more of the memory tardis!🔮! I wonder if there were some easter eggs slotted into in the Tales series that we'll only realise later.. ..👀
Probably. There was so much on that set.
Also, on the Second Doctor recasting, my preference would go to Frazer Hines...And would actually make sense as he was on the Memory TARDIS set for one day to film the sequence for the Mind Robber episode, so he could have easily been back a second day to play The Second Doctor or they shot it on the same day, like Mind Robber in the morning and Season 1 in the afternoon for example.
I know he’s done the 2nd Doctor in voice but I don’t think it’d work SEEING him. We’d all just be thinking “but that’s Jamie!”
@@CulturePhilter I am not sure. I saw a picture last year of him dressed as Troughton for either Halloween or a con and it worked for me.
@@timrob12 ah maybe.
@@CulturePhilter We'll see.
Top-of-my-head theory: With Mel back in the mix, maybe the memory TARDIS has something to do with Trial of a Time Lord and the Valliard? Maybe I'm just hopeful here, but it would be nice to finally see how Mel met old Sixy!
Big finish have already covered that meeting.
@@CulturePhilter I really want the TV show to film Big Finish stories! Such a rich source of lore
@@coleenocasturme - in some senses they have. ‘Dalek’ from 2005 was loosely based off Jubilee. And ‘Spare Parts’ inspired both ‘Age of Steel/Rise of the Cybermen’ and ‘World enough and Time/The Doctor Falls’
@@CulturePhilter I think I'd like it to be more clear-cut. It would be my pick for a spin-off - especially the 8th Doctor adventures. I loved that they included the Sisterhood of Karn (sp?!) in The Night of the Doctor. I just want it all canonised! Ok, so I'm greedy... :)
It could be any number of possible things. I hope it’s not a doctor as the huge amount of doctors returning lately would make another cameo appearance underwhelming.
My guess is as good as yours here.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
I guess if they do returning Doctors TOO often it does get old.
This is very intriguing! And if you notice and I only just noticed this but you can see that Mel is behind the Doctor so I'm wondering what this all means... I must admit I do worry as I hope RTD isn't going to uh, canonize his Bigeneration theory though... I hope he doesn't go that far!
Oh the “every Doctor has bigenerated” yeah… I don’t like that.
I think the dusty planets being in this version has something to do with his reaction.
I have no idea what the implications of the memory Tardis will be for a current Doctor, versus bringing together past friends.
Good point. I didn’t talk about the planets in the video… probably should have. Does it mean the planets turning to dust is a vision of some kind rather than something actually happening perhaps?
I can’t rember, was the Doctor’s memories of Clara ever returned? Could be that.
I thought they were. Just before he regenerated.
Memory TARDIS, big whoa!
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Oh god, I am tired of waiting now, so much build up now and its just weeks away. I think we all just need answers haha. Great Video Bud!
Cheers. A week and a day until the first two eps! Are you watching at midnight, Sat morning or Sat evening?
@@CulturePhilter Oh I will need to watch at midnight, no spoilers for me no thanks haha! What about you?
@@TardisTalks I like to watch with my kids so going to try and wait until the Saturday morning. But we’ll see if I manage to hold out. 😄
@@CulturePhilter Just avoid the interwebs haha
@@TardisTalks should be easy, I’ll be asleep 😄
it looks like 11's Tardis as well
Similar colours and chaotic nature but it’s definitely the Memory TARDIS if you compare side by side. The right shapes are in the right places.
Im going to put my bet on it not being another Tardis...
They've hinted that the Tardis interior will progressively update, with it getting chairs and the random jukebox.
Not convinced its the memory Tardis either, looks too big and that round/hexagon decoration has been on many interiors.
It’s not just the hexagon. The two round shapes next to it match where there are some in relation to hexagon in memory TARDIS too. Plus right colour scheme
It would be very cool if the Second Doctor made an appearance to speak with the Fifteenth Doctor, I wonder why they would get drawn to the Memory TARDIS and what it could possibly be about, as it can't be anything good given Ncuti's Doctor screaming in horror. I believe Patrick Troughton's son David would be the perfect casting choice because not only does he look just like his dad but also has a very similar voice as well. Given Russell teased that the bi-generation actually happened across the Doctor's entire timeline, then it very well could be the bi-generated Second Doctor. I do believe that the Doctors who showed up in TOTT were also the bi-generated versions of Five, Six, and Seven so this would add up to this as well, but we'll have to see what happens!
I really hope he doesn’t put that thing about bi-generation happening to all doctors on screen. It doesn’t make sense with how we saw bigeneration work in The Giggle. It almost sounds like Russell is conflating his Bigeneration concept and the concept of parallel timelines where whatever doctor didn’t regenerate.
@@CulturePhilter Yeah I hear you, not saying that will be the case but it was just a theory I came up with based on what he said. Also, do you agree about David Troughton being a good Second Doctor if the rumours turn out to be true?
@@adammarrs9266 he certainly SOUNDS enough like him when he’s played the role on audio. I’m not convinced on looking like him but maybe with the right wig.
maybe Susan comes back in the memory tardis in season 1 from ncuti
That would be lovely. If I had to chose one person to bring back it would be Susan
Must admit this clip actially got me a bit excited more than the other bits n pieces we have had pushed onro us .....some reason this gave me more of an angle of where we are going than any of the other ones ....im not HYPED or massively EXCITED but it did make me go OOH i get it .....i mean if it goes how i think itll go it might be a good run of episodes BUT i do think a lot of what happens in this seasn wont fully be resolved until end of season 2 so the era is literally habging by a thread by this .... I mean we have seen a lot of amazing different Dr Who eras years and series sibce RTDs first era and i feel RTD is trying to "compete" lightly with what weve had from Moff and Chibnall ....just my angle anyway 💙💙
Nice to see you feeling a bit (emphasis on bit) more positive 😄
very cool. thank you Phil!
No worries 🙂
I can’t wait for the storyline!!! I like your theory that this was the memory tardis all along! 2 weeks to go 😅
Yes by this time in two weeks we’ll have already been able to see two whole episodes 😁
@@CulturePhilter I know!!!! I have it marked on my (Obviously Doctor Who) calendar 😁😁😁😁😁😁 (Im really excited as you can tell)
@@Blazing_Ninja I must update my “______ days to new Doctor Who” chalk board my wife made me a few years ago 😄
@@CulturePhilter Hehe, definitely 🤣
I’ve just made the Doctor Who s1 trailer in Lego if you could check that out please!
This is exciting if this is the real scene, explains why he's screaming out to the void!
Yeah with those planets in the background.
They really need to hand it back to the BBC to do the majority of the marketing because disney is showing wayyyy too much
I can’t imagine Disney would be happy with that.
We should really hand it back to the BBC... where they wouldnt show anything except 1 trailer a couple weeks before the premier.
Yeah no thanks. I would much prefer we see too much than see so little that the general public forgets all about Doctor Who airing.
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