Antidepressant induced Iatrogenic neurological injury : 18 months post complete cessation update.
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Just an update following my journey at 18 months completely free of Antidepressant drugs. I explain my battle to get here, my current difficulties and slight improvements. I always end the video off with some words of wisdom and encouragement to keep progressing forward on this journey. 😊🙏
So glad to hear the akathisia and terror has died down!
You ARE healing!!!
Thank God.❤
Isolation and disconnection have been most profound during these years of slow tapering. Lost my sense of reality in the medical system trying to figure out what was really going on. With each passing video neuronal growth is increasing imperceptibly. You are bearing witness to this seemingly endless endurance test. I feel supported knowing people like you are out there surviving. ❤
Crises lines offer little help. It takes so much effort to reach out to anyone. There is no one to talk to about shared experiences. I would be completely lost if not for you Cole. There is strength in numbers.
❤️🙏 big hugs 🤗 my friend. Happy to hear these videos are helping.
Are you coming of a medication?
@@GeraltOfRivia99 effexor
Proud of you man ., no one knows unless they’ve been through it. It’s unreal. Keep it up man, you got this.
I understand how you say these drugs have basically taken my life because they have devastated me as well. I will never be the same. You are doing better than you were though. I can see it. You should be proud of yourself. I will not give up either.
SSRIs inhibit neurosterodial genesis via enzymatic
inhibition of 5-alpha reductase and 3-hsd. This has been known since the late 90s. These two enzymes are required for the synthesis of allopregnanolone in the brain.
Allopregnanolone is paramount in mental health and physiological homeostasis. Without it, human health is severely compromised.
You’re on the right track my friend. The fact you have little windows of feeling better is a good sign, and that your RNA translation of these enzymes is slowly coming back online.
Stay strong warrior
Hence the very thing they're meant to help they actually make worse.
@@celticwarrior7217 exactly. Crazy backwards world we live in
Exactly. This is why so many men that take Finasteride are suicidal and severely injured. Do you think that taking allopregnanolone via Brexanolone will solve this problem? It is shocking to me that there are tens of millions of people suffering on this planet from prescription psych medicine and there is not a solution. This has to be addressed.
I am so sorry that you are having to go through this my God I have been in your shoes! When Heather Ashton was alive, she saved my life and of course I got her manual which is still online. It really helped me when I started going through the symptoms because she outlines even though they are horrific symptoms they are all normal signs that the brain is healing. She told me about the windows of healing and the ebb and the flow and the good days in the bad days and I at least knew what to expect so that the symptoms weren’t so foreign. It really helped having somebody in advance. tell me what I would experience. I clung to every word she said. I remember trying to tell myself that I would literally chain myself to the bed. when bad thoughts came through my mind. The physical pain and the emotional pain it’s so real and very few people understand how awful it is. I hope you have people who understand what you are going through and people who you can talk to when things get rough. I would be there for you in a heartbeat, even though you don’t know me and I’m a total stranger and a nobody in your life, my God I know what you’re going through and would pay it forward for sure. Lots of things helped me after the water titration like melatonin supplements and ltryptophan but mostly it just takes a whole lot of time. You do in fact, have a brain injury so be kind to yourself. I tapered very slowly off of Valium but there’s no easy way out. These drugs do so much damage and I believe with all my heart the doctors are aware of it and I’ll never forget it. I pray that you stay strong.
Hey brother, I have all the same symptoms you do - I got damaged by Lexapro last year and it’s been 12 months. I’ve had literal skin numbness and emotional numbness, body dryness. My head feels like it’s on fire everyday. The DPDR got so bad at one point that I did not know where or who I was. It’s almost laughable how bad these symptoms are.
In this time that we struggle, focus on seeking the living God. He is near to the broken hearted and contrite in spirit. He knows you intimately and wants a relationship with you. God cannot lie, and promises that if you seek him with all of your heart, you will find him.
God bless
hows your anxiety?
I can relate homie, 18 months is huge, almost 2 years at this point, you're a soldier. Keep at it my boy💪💯
I just started a slow taper from 1.2 mg klonopin and I'm already suffering and it's basically hell. Everything in the day is becoming hard to do, I have to absolutely push myself to still eat healthy, exercise, and meditate. Rest assured knowing that in the afterlife, the people who made and distributed these drugs will suffer every ounce of pain they inflicted to everyone they ever tortured
How long were you on the K?
You are already healing and you have your whole life ahead of you. Don't listen to the enemy that says this is permenant that's a lie. Day by day you will get better and inch by inch to the finish line. I know the depersonalization and derealization is rough but you have to give it no attention and it will dissipate in time. I have a lot of experience with DP/DR i first got it in 2004 so I can tell you without a doubt it goes away its like a fight or flight safe mode because your nervous system sees you as your own threat it derealizes and depersonalizes you. Instead of an external threat like a bear chasing you panic terror occurs your own body and the chemical terror whether it be the drugs like marijuana ssris shroom etc an internal panic occurs and you get DP/DR.
The key is to convince your nervous system that you are fine and that there is no need for the dp/dr. You're not in a movie you aren't a robot you aren't dying you are not in a dream. You are a human a soul a being of light and you are healing you are defeating all obstacles in your way. You are a boss and aint nobody or nothing stopping you.
Thanks bro for your encouragement, it’s been a long 7 year tapering journey to even get here, 17 years in total on these psych drugs. I keep marching forward, no going back now. 🙏💪
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 That's right you got this far for a reason. It's because you're going to get all the way through it All praises to the Most High inside of you.
@@1MNUTZwhat about trauma after we heal?
@@mitch5222 the trauma is there during withdrawal, dealing and healing from the trauma is part of the entire healing process. The trauma pops up anyway and sometimes you have to dive deep into it and all that darkness to get through it it's part of radical acceptance. It's just of matter of time and during withdrawal you have to give yourself time because you're dealing with a lot already that's why you have to seek getting closer to God, light, source to get you through the time and comfort you.
@@1MNUTZ it has been 12 years now after my life was normal. I didnt have time to grow up and deal with life normally. I am afraid of how i will react if i heal. How my anxiety and despression will be.
Keep on fighting mate , we're all here for you ❤
I took an SSRI for 4 days and even that has done damage… the first pill I took I instantly knew these things were a weapon created by the devil… you’re a true champion lad! keep pushing 🙏
Same thing happened to me. I took paxil 3 days, I didn't even need medication. I stopped because I truly didn't need them. Once I stopped I new something was wrong.
You are an absolute fighter and you should be SO proud of yourself! Amazing to see that there’s positive things happening, a sign that healing is taking place. This should be very encouraging to you and just know it’s going to continue to get better!
Cole! Thanks so much for doing this video, I asked for it. I was really surprised to see it. I know it’s climbing a mountain. I’m a wife mom and 70 years young. Went rapid tapered off Zoloft & klonopin 3years out. I have the exact cognitive issues I stutter and struggle with words. But it gets better. YOU will get there. My akathisia has gotten to a very low level. Still a little of the tremors you mentioned. Did you have agoraphobia at all? I’m struggling with that. Anyway hun. Hang in there mate. lol. I’m in Southern California by the beach. 🏝️. Please take care. P. (You will find a new love) ❤️
You’re more than welcome. I try my best regarding my current situation.🙏 ♥️
Not so much agoraphobia, more so anhedonia and high level depersonalisation and derealisation.
Sounds lovely, I’d love to visit the states one day when I’m able too. Take care. 😎🤗
I'm at 17 months myself after 22 years on SSRIs. We all heal differently for sure. Glad you're still moving forward. It's hard when you can't feel joy or focus on anything for long. It feels like groundhog's day for me. Just doing the same things every day. I won't give up.
😞😞😞 me too
How was when u were on meds? What ssris did u take. I cannot control my anxiety when not knowing when my body will heal and do t even remember how is the normal day in life for 12 years. It scares me a lot
Thanks again Cole! Brave as always. I know you’ve tried everything but for others this is what helps me the most.
1) meditation twice a day.
2) affirmations. Lois Hay is incredible
3) walk outside daily.
4) get a routine for your body to heal
5) clean diet. Whole Foods
6) Support. I have very different friends now and it’s best one on one. It’s important to feel heard and valued while healing.
All the best!
Keep going bro, proud of you 👏🏻 From my own experience, the healing journey is a slow one but you’ll get through it. I remember the waves and windows in the first year compared to the third year. Believe it or not it took 4 years for the waves and windows to disappear. 🙏🏻 Keep going that’s all I said to myself. It’s the most difficult thing to get through. This July 23 2024 it’ll be 6 years for me. Keep going bro you got this 🙏🏻❤️✌🏻🇦🇺
Cheers bro 😊. How long were you on these drugs for and how was your taper off ?
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 I was on Cymbalta for just over 3 years at 90mg. I tapered down to 30mgs and then I listened to the doctor to drop the 30 cold turkey with zero problems he said. I went into a full Protracted Acute situation on the 23rd of July 2018. It’s been ridiculously hard. The first two year were hell on earth. I still had problems at 3 years and then my waves and windows went around year four. I’ve been watching your story for a while and since you tried the first time. Good luck man and keep going. You just need to get to year 2-3. Amazing changes happen so slowly. You got this mate 👍🏻🥳
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 my reply got deleted 🙄
@@brendansmyth5053Ive got it here bro. Cheers for your reply. All the best man. 💪😎
@@brendansmyth5053are you able to take antibiotics, medication, supplements now with no reaction?
You are a lion brother, a true fighter, I'm proud of you and each and every one of us. Thank you for the video and the positivity. I keep on going despite my OCD getting so much worse after the withdrawal. We got this.💪
I know it’s unimaginable suffering and so much loss and grief! But hold on. You will get better and when it comes. Life is amazing. ❤
Kind words 💜 how long did it take you?
Thank you for the update. I have seen comments on groups where people say anything between 24-48 months there is a turn around for the better. There is light at the end of this tunnel - keep going.
What you have is a very severe case of PSSD… I wish you all the best, my brother. Keep fighting; we are in this with you. I’m suffering from the so-called "twin syndrome" from taking the medication Finasteride. It causes severe neurological, physical, and sexual impairment. We have a CZcams channel called Moral Medicine where we interview sufferers of Post-Finasteride Syndrome, PSSD, and Post-Accutane Syndrome. These syndromes are all caused by androgen deprivation and result in similar symptoms. We believe there is a much bigger picture that needs to be seen. We would greatly appreciate it if we could interview you for our channel.
Thanks for your kind comments. 😊
Currently I don’t feel up to being interviewed, but happy to get back to you later on to arrange something.
3α-HSD and 5α-reductase inhibition ---> Zero Allopregnanolone synthesis & DHT synthesis. Getting it from SSRIs is particularly evil imo. Horrific syndrome. Quite a few compounds out there that cause this.
Brilliant, I’m 16 months off and moving forward.
Glad to see you are recovering, slowly and unsteadily as it may be !
You have a good mindset - negativity is the enemy. You have gotten through so much and though it’s not easy you’ve come so far. You will be the hero in your story. This is only a chapter. I admire your courage . You are healing. Remain strong.
I wish I would have had the strength to put myself out there with my own story of ritalin withdrawal. Soon it will be two years. I might do one then. Know that your content have been really acknowledging. We appreciate you and hope for your and all of our recovery. For me the real healing only started after 15 months and has been growing since. Wishing you the best. Small steps. Intermittent fasting has helped me a lot. (don't do lion's mane, ashwagandha, they can trigger the damage - just try to relax, even though your reaction won't let you).
Ps. Even though it is not directly visible, I believe you. It is the same for me. Most noticeable now, for me at least, is the blank forehead when the "zaps" are happening. When they leave I can wrinkle my forehead again as I am again able to think about stuff or feel stuff (you know like the way you can see that things are happening inside someone's head by their wrinkling their forehead). It is very disheartening when people that you thought know you can't see the difference.
How long had you been on Ritalin ? And at what dose ?
@@coshyno Just 8 days. 18mg for the first seven and 38mg on the last day. I think it interacted with omeprazol (a monoamino acid inhibitor, maoi) for acid reflux, which is known to double the efect of ssri's and maybe with allergy meds (cetirizin), I don't know. Or it simply caused a vascular reaction quickly, causing erectile dysfunction and cognitive impairment - everything points to this imo. I think the end result would have been the same sooner or later. I think people mistake the impairment for focus honestly (your brain can't deal with excess thoughts while doing things) - inner monologues etc disappeared. Felt like a lobotomy.
Have you taken it?
When you told me find something to fight for that deeply resonated with me, thank you for letting me in on 'the secret'. Oh mate, I hope you find joy in seeing the birds around you, because I notice the bush setting. That's something that cheers me up the kotare (kingfisher) is like a kaitiakitanga ( guardian). And piwakawaka (fantail) is a hoa (friend).
You are an inspiration to all of us. Proud of you brother. I am also protracted for 10 months now. Never give up keep fighting.
New subscriber. You are not alone. Hugs and prayers ❤
You're a superstar! Thanks for sharing this. I had a tough day today - severe pressure in my skull. Intense neck muscle spasms. And I've barely made much progress on the taper this time. Hearing your honest experience truly helped me. 🥰
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It's meant so much to listen to your testimony. I feel less alone with my own AD withdrawal experience. Thank you.
Hi Sir,
Love you so so much. I went through cold turkey benzo withdrawal and symptoms last for full 10 months. At one point, I really gave up, but I saw your videos and got a huge strength sir. I just want to let you know that I love you so so much
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Thank you for continuing to share your story Cole. You are incredibly strong and inspiring and give hope to so many.
Thank you 🙏
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Hang in there, bud. Im 9 months of paxil and klonopin caused mania, and psychosis ruined my life. Keep going and raising awareness
You are not alone. God is with you every step of the way.
I have done similar journey with zoloft (15 years). Pardoxial reaction tapered too fast almost c/t. I'm tired of being strong, I just want to get better. But you have no other choice. You are young. I am 50 years old. 9 months off and in hell. I don't know if I can live like this and alone for several years with these horrible pains and symptoms. I also have neurological problems. Sorry this happend to us. You’re a good person 💛
Hang in there ♥️
I hear you, been through it, it was a nightmare. Now dealing with it again from antiobotics, and more depressents ,destroyed my health and my life. 😢 All for pain. Doctors cant give us anything anymore, but brain altering drugs. 😢
don't feel alone! In constant pain. Can't really go anywhere or make appointments or plans. The so called Drs think I am a drug seeker. Can not tolerate most drugs. they gave me Cipro numerous times for uti's and did not tell me black box. Now I have nerve damage. Keep on truckin. Would love to go for walk, can not. Still trying and still have hope, you sharing your experience helps alot Thankyou!
@@janedarby7521i have nerve pain in legs i cannot sit. I am basically disabled.
God bless you Bro ! thank you for your video. You're not alone. Keep healing, keep going !
I am glad that despite so much sufferings, you are always so positive. Just keep going, things will improve. You helped me a lot in encouraging me to pull myself and keep going. Now at 9 months off xanax, having my ups and down, finally after a horrible wave, I got a window and I felt near to normal.
Please keep going.... have faith, tou will definitely get better ❤️
Congratulations on 18 months, it's a huge achievement. Keep fighting the good fight, your healing is happening and you will get there. I'm 5 years off, after 20 years on Prozac and it does get easier. We're all here with you, your not alone. Wonderful to hear you can laugh again 😊 that's huge, keep noting all your improvements. Blessings and all the healing wishes in the world.💞🙏🕊️🥊
You're looking better than your previous video and you're sounding more positive. You're symptoms are slowly improving from what you're saying so that's a good sign. You will rebuild your life, you're young and you want to survive, one day at a time.
Hope you are getting better . I always check to see if you are alright. Your strength and patience amazes me . Take care
Getting there slowly. Thanks for your kind words. 👍
WELL DONE BRO!!! YOU HAVE SO MUCH SUPPORT!
I subbed. You're doing a great service to us. I know it can't be easy while you're desling with debilitating side effects. I'm caretaking my nephew for9 years. He's recently speaking more and dressing to look nice. Everyday you have got to be grateful for something. Your recovery inspired me to keep helping him with gratitude that he's still with us. Thank you for this channel ❤
Thanks so much for your lovely comment. ❤️🙏 All the best man.
Thank you so much for this update. 😊🙏
You have youth on your side, thank God! I’m 65 and unfortunately, after 6 months off Tramadol have gone back on them (and they are not working like they did)
To be honest, I feel so unwell and now have started BP tablets which are giving me horrendous side effects
I’ve had enough tbh 💔🙁
Keep going love 💗
Hang in there mate, I’ve been battling since 2017 now, over 7 years. It’s been an incredible long painful transformational journey. There’s always hope and you’ve got plenty of years left to enjoy life. Don’t give up. ♥️🙏🤗
The fact you’re having any moments of feeling normal is a huge accomplishment. I tapered off slowly and still struggling 5 months off. If you could go back would you have reinstated or just try to push through the normal withdrawal?
You are doing an amazing job, and trust me when I say I know how you are feeling because I am going through the same stuff. You are healing and you will heal. Yes it takes a long time, way more time than it should but your body has taken you this far and it will carry you to more healing. I am glad you went out because god knows we all need a break but I am sure you already know it’s nice to be gentle and listen to your body too. Peace and more healing to you
Thank you so much for sharing 💔! I’m in a similiar situation. Started tapering 2014. Before that i had done cold turkey and put back on meds again. I’ts been 10 years of hell. Lost my sons teen years and he won’t speak to me as yet! He is 23 yrs now. Can not work or have a relationship. The meds have destryed my life! I was on them almost 30 yrs! 😢. Lots of hugs from Sweden ❤. I’m 3,5 yrs off!
Sorry to hear that. What medicine did you take and how are you today? Any improvements? I took zoloft for 15 years and then tapered too fast. 8 months off and its like hell. Afraid it Will take years.
@@Snowflake1374 I started 1991 with Cipramil. Not because of depression or anxiety but a life thing happend. Got worse and from 1991-2014 i was on som many different meds , sometimes 2 . Doses up and down. I just got sicker and sicker. When i started tapering 2014 i was on Cymbalta 120 mg and Lyrica 600 mg.
It took me 6,5 yrs to be free! Took it very slow. Learnd from my CT with Effexor.
I’m slowly geting my life back. I turn 57 this fall. I’m 3,5 yrs off meds now.
You will get better. Time just give it time. Don’t rush. Little by little things will get better. You are still young. Check out Dr Josef and Anders Sörensen here on youtube. Really good . I’w got lots of help from watching there videos.
Lots of love and hugs from the other side of the world! ❤️🩹
I'm proud of you man!
I feel you man..I am 36 and I experience everything almost same. 15 years on these drugs. 16 months ago stopped cold turkey... bad decission. Really scary how my life is going to be.. dont want to get back to those drugs..
Hang in there man. 💪❤️
Been on them 26 years... Cold Turkeyed off 60MGS 8 months agao... Its like the movie 300 feel outnumbered but Im getting daily wins now and starting to see some blue sky days... Keep it up homie.. Only a few of us walking out of this nightmare.... Lets lead the charge... GOD BLESS... Reach out if you need to
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Brave commentary - thx for the update - I see a clarity and awareness in your delivery that seems better than your last post. Great to see!!!
You seem to have a bit more gusto in this update. Proud of you dude. This is a brutal brutal situation to be dealing with.
Hey cole, cool to hear you are doing good, it does get better , thats the good news , just takes time to happen. best wishes from calif
I wouldn’t say good my friend, still experience severe pain and horrible symptoms that debilitate my every day life, but there are subtle improvements from 18 months ago. I hang on and forge through the best I can. I hope you’re seeing improvements. 🙏💪
keep making these videos, give us updates! Good luck brother!
You are so strong bro. I’m exactly the same and roughly same length off too.
I feel for you brother
Awesome message brother. Stay Strong.
Stay strong brorher- after 12 years of chain smokingI have nicotine withdrawal, and your story makes me stop feeling sorry for myself.
Please make a video for update. How are you now?
When ever I feel weak and want some hope, I just warch your videos. I am almost a year off benzos and still in hell.
You always give me inspiration to keep going. You are the strongest person, full of knowledge that how our body has the ability to heal itself. Are you reading some articles about this? , that shows that our rational brain is working properly, it's only the nervous system that is dysregulated.
I update every 6 months, so I’ll do an update video around late November. Currently I don’t have a stable place to stay, so very hard to produce any videos as it is.
Hoping you have good support, and stable living arrangements. Take every day on its merits. Stay strong, there is always light at the end of the tunnel. 💪 ❤️
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 thanks for replying. You are so inspiring and full of hope. Each day is a struggle, but I face it reminding myself that it will pass and better days are ahead.
I don't have any support in my situation, as no one understands or believes me that withdrawal can be so long and horrific. They think that it's in my head, and I overthink everything. Even my doctor says the same. I have to act and work normally, although I don't feel connected to myself and surroundings. I doubt that I really exist. All so scary and terrifying .
I moved from India 5 years ago, and here in US, I live with my children. It's difficult to just pass my time adjusting, that too in this frightening journey of withdrawal. As I recall your comments, once you said you are living with your brother. Please just pass the time with hope that one day you will find your own life back.🙏
I have DP and really bad symptoms since 2007, still going strong! The will to live is real. I am not taking any meds now and it feels great!
Im also in the same boat..cold turkey two years back reinstated cold turkey last year reinstated …. So twice damadged with the cold turkey. The symptoms u name all I know have or had it.
I was given Haloperidol Decanoate 50 mg in the E.R 10 years ago... And the next day I woke up I had a terrible brain damage... I can't function anymore... I don't know what to do.
Love you man
Hi fella👋 I've randomly stumbled upon chanel....sending a giant dude hug across the ocean....YOU GOT THIS! make akathisia your bit%^. Also....from someone who has never seen your channel before....I would never suspect a neurological disorder...you seem very thought provoked and methodical in your speach which is an admirable trait. Try to re-invent yourself and let go of the past....you cannot hang on to the should of would of could ofs. Your opportunity is to teach the world......film your self doing things and teach us methods to overcome and work with neurological deficits in the moment as your symptoms happen. ..ex. going to the store....living daily life....relationships....the world is your oyster....maybe this could help you discover more and also work as a tool....I'd watch many people would watch...anyways you have a light however dim you may think it is that is bright and should be seen.....be awesome and stay legendary!
Thanks so much for your lovely comments. Unfortunately these videos give a false impression of my current reality. You see myself speaking for 13 minutes, but the other 12 or so waking hours of my life, you don’t see the severity of my psych med injury and how it limits me. This is recovery from a very severe pharmaceutical induced iatrogenic injury, and as much as I’d love to live life like a normal person, I have to adhere to what my body is able to do. There are serious implications of pushing yourself past your limits in this situation. Thanks. 😊
Keep fighting man
Glad to hear you're doing better 🙏🏻 keep going your so strong
Your videos are very much helpful to know that I am not alone in this frightening journey.
I am now 9 months off xanax, but symptoms are so bad , physically and mentally. Inner vibrations, inner trembling, severe head pains, confusion and feeling detached from my memories are so disturbing. Did you have these ? I am much worried about the mental part. I just keep going in the hope that one day it will all pass
Yep, I still have all of these at 18 months off Effexor, but I’m a severe case. Even though I’m badly injured, I can still notice little subtle signs of improvement which gives me hope of continued healing. This a time game, and things will continue to improve for you as the days and weeks pass by. Stay strong and pat yourself on the back for getting this far off the Xanax. You’ll get there, one day at a time. ❤️🙏
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 yes I know that time is a big healer, but it seems to me that I am getting worse day by day, as mental symptoms are so brutal in recent days that were never before. I loss hope to get better, and very difficult to pass a single day. I always try to understand what I have done or eaten, that made me so much worse. Have you ever noticed some food items like lemon juice or bananas increase the symptoms?
Or cleaning and filling plant pots with mud can also make our system worse?
@@angel_2022Mnot for me, things become a lot worse when I over exert myself both physically or cognitively. It’s very small margins unfortunately at this point of time. You’ll get there, healing is not linear and sometimes things get a lot worse before they subside and improve.
Take each day on its merits. 🙏😊
im coming of Xanax right now if you ever want to talk @angel_2022M
Cold plunges sound smart
20 years on Mirtazapin. Had a break for about 1,5 year. Never had a good nights sleep and started again. Recently i tried to taper very slowly. Going from 30mg to 22.5 mg. Now after a month i'm giving up. It's life long for me. I was actually thinking about starting on something more to really feel better, but after seeing this i won't.
Good video!
It appears that some people are damned once they have taken an ssri for over a year. If you then stop cold turkey you get severe akathisia. You can stay on the drug and develop tolerance withdrawals and if you switch to a different ssri you get severe akathisia. Then you get tolerant to the different drug, so you cannot win. You then taper off really slowly over 4 years and find you can't stop the last tiny bit as the flare ups which follow each reduction become increasingly lengthy and unreasonable. I got to 0.5mg liquid Prozac and won't taper anymore as it isn't worth it.
Yep, it’s an incredibly tough journey for a lot of us out there.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 One organism benefits at the expense of another, what big pharma are doing marketing the ssris is known as an antagonistic relationship in biology.
The sounds is good because i have tinnitus bease of SSRIs so it helps. 😥😥
Hey Man, really happy to find your routine channel. Do you have a place where I can read your whole story? Like on SA or something? I have been on a SNRI for 21 years and trying to get off. Thank you for your videos ❤️
No problem. 😌 I pretty much share my whole story on this channel, from 30 % reduction into my taper right down to my final syringe measurement of 0.30 mg which I filmed.
My story pretty similar to yours, 17 years in total on these antidepressants, 40 mg of citalopram for 9 years and Effexor 75mg including the long taper off the drug was a total of 8 years. It took me 3 attempts over 5 years to succeed in this process.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 thanks for replying Cole. You are an inspiration and so courageous. You really have my respect. I am rooting for you.
I'm stuck on 60mg of Cymbalta counting beads and 9.2mg of Valium down from 10mg. Trying to taper but the symptoms are so severe. Painful neuropathy all through my body. Skin crawling. I've had severe akathisia pacing and begging for mercy. I went on the valium to control it and it worked at first but i just developed tolerance to it. And now I have deep depression and anhedonia as well. It's a nightmare. Idk if I'll make it.
Where there is a will, there is a way. I made it out alive, so can you.
I have the same symptomatic. Light and loud sound sens, pressure in eyes, tinnitus, head pain. But i never used drugs, i was an alcoholic. 5mg of amitriptiline 2 times in a week helps to get rid of it and feel myself healthy
I had things happen to me I suffered greatly mentally and than I too was gas lit .
19 months off lex(10 years on it)&20 months off benzo(6 years on it), did you experience nerve pain, vertigo?
Yes.
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Ps. Your adorable. 😊
I’m 11 months off klonopin was Polly drugged for7 years it’s not easy the physical pain is horrible and mental fog hang in there I hope I can but I don’t no how much longer my body can hold on I lost my appetite trying to get it back but the stomach issues and pain prevent me from eating
Hang in there man. 🙏
You should look into a supplement called aniracetam. I had benzo brain injury and it helped balance my brain hemispheres. Really made a noticeable difference for me. Glad your doing better and pushing forward.
how do you know it balanced your brain hemispheres? What test measured this?
Which is more worse benzo vs ssri to come off and also does starting ssri in weaning and coming off benzo os good option.
Both can be as bad as each other. I personally wouldn’t start any other drug, I’d just focus on coming off the benzodiazepines as safely and slowly as possible.
😭😭😭😭in the same boat
8 month later ,I have tried to stop in one month 150 mg after 13 years use. The symptoms was tinitus and headache but the biggest symptoms was the depression , impossible to thinking. After 4 month it was the hell. I have reintegrate after a attempt suicide. How long the during of your tapering?
I’m sorry to hear that. 3 and a half years of tapering to get off venlafaxine.
My first attempt failed so I had to reinstate the drug.
How long after your cold turkey did you reinstate and went back? I never went back after my almost c/t and later crashed. I think it gave my major neurological damage.
He says so in the video, 9 months
What are your symptoms?
@@Justlikemagic96 Head pressure, brain sensations, body aches, muscles, burning, fatigue, akathisia, cognitive, depression, dizziness, eye pain.
Im in a similuar situation but with benzos. Alot of the supplements works tho, so wich one are you using? Are you reducing oxidative stress with high doses vitamin C, high dosed nac ?
What ive found to work best is brain stimualtion of the vagus nerve plus brain, and adding strong antioxidants before stimulation. Massive difference
It depends on the level of neurotoxicity and neurological induced damage, injury. Since 2017 I’ve used lions mane, high strength EPA/DHA fish oil, NAC, magnesium glycinate, high dose vitamin C, b vitamins, zinc, numerous herbs, CoQ10, and many more. I’d say magnesium and fish oil are the only supplements which have somewhat been helpful aiding sleep and brain shocks. Glad you are getting some results with supplementation.
Did you get my respons? Cant see my text
@@stefanallard3084 I replied to you.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 saw that one but my respons to it got deleted. Its really irritating that CZcams keeps autodeleted posts that's health related... I can shoot you a dm if you want, you should really try the electrical stimulation
I’m almost 3 yrs off total 14 years akathisia
7.5 and half. Still hell. Disabled with neuropathy in my legs. I cannot sit, hardly walk.
That’s insanity, what is the level of akathisia ? How do you cope with it ?
Do you have chronic fatigue syndrome symptoms? Do you get post exertional malaise?
Unfortunately I do, that’s one of the many other symptoms I currently experience. I’m no expert, not many are on this but I believe it to be the drugs toxicity effects on the mitochondrial cells which negatively impact their functioning and cell division, etc. With time and healing I’d like to make an informative video on this topic and how I’ve live and dealt with it over the years.
So sorry that you do. Same thing for me. Have experienced that moderately on Effexor and much much worse now that i’m off and lately it has gotten so severe because i pushed my body a little too hard. I do believe in that theory too. I hope we can recover from it though because this disease is ranked the highest in effecting quality of life. it’s so cruel because we also have to endure it on top of the countless withdrawal symptoms that we have - Thanks to Effexor. That would be great, I will be looking forward for the video. Wishing you fast recovery brother. 🙏🏼
im having head pain from benzo withdrawal how do you cope with that
Ice 🧊 pack on head, ice cold showers and self massage have served me well over the years.
Head pain!!! LOL!!! If thats your worst problem youre a big wanker!
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 thank you did you please saw improvements in this pain
@@chadiach5234slight improvements over many years for me, but it takes time and patience. Hang in there and take everyday as it comes. You’ll heal eventually.
How long did you take them for before you stopped ?
It took me over 5.5 years to finally get off. All up, 17 years in total including the taper.
Brother .. hope u read this comment. Request to pls start 3 pranayama: Anulom Vilom, Kapalbhati and Bhastrika. You will have 360° changes within a few months. U can learn all these for free on youtube
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I was never addicted to drugs, but I was addicted to the esteem of others.
As Dr. Gabor Mate says: "All addictions are the same and they all start with childhood trauma."
If there is one piece of advice I can give you, it is this: "Open up to a reliable therapist." You will be shocked and horrified at what is buried deep inside our minds and activates us without us knowing, in a destructive cycle that repeats itself.
Anyway, good luck on your new path.
What we going through is not addiction. We are harned firstly harmed by the side effects of psychotropics and then harmed by trying to get off. I speak for many when I say that I will never enter any therapy or any professional trained in psychopharmacology. The magnitude of the harm is indescribable and has nothing to do with addiction.
@@Ann-l7xwell said, I was just about to reply to this comment. These guys have absolutely no idea about the complexity of Iatrogenic harm from pharmaceutical drugs, but at least they’re trying to be helpful I guess.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 I'm sorry if I explained myself in an offensive way. (English is not my main language). When I say therapist, I do not mean in any way shape or form the use of drugs of any kind. My intention is to talk, really talk, to open up mentally.
Or as a therapist told me: "Pain, any pain, indicates a request for increased and urgent attention." A good and true therapist will never try to dull or "stop" the pain, but will teach us how to acknowledge it and its source and respond to the request.
It's a terrible time, a time when everyone tries to look like they're made of steel and expressing emotions is a weakness. As a person who has been through a lot in his life, I can tell you that there is nothing more difficult than talking about the real inner difficulties, and there is no medicine or drug that will make the physical and mental pain disappear.
Again, I apologize from the bottom of my heart if I explained myself in any offensive way
Do you have an SA thread where I can read to it story. ❤️
Do u think after we heal we will have to deal with traumas and go to therapy to overcome what happened to us?
That’s up to you bro. We know our bodies better than anyone else, we have the ability to heal ourselves with a lot of work and self belief, discipline.
I was prescribed em several times
NEVER took em they made me feel more depressed
Smart choice, I wish I never took them.
Is your home mold free?
I currently don’t have a home.
Bro did you suffer from PSSD.And if so did you recovered
I have neurological damage, sexual function seems to be ok. Recovering slowly over the years. It’s a long process.
Have you considered psilocybin therapy?
It’s something id consider later down the track.
u mentioned hallicinations. wat kind ?
Sensory Hallucinations.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 sorry to hear that, do you have visual hallucinations?
@@germainedenon311yes I do. Ive been having these for years unfortunately. Things will continue to improve as my brain and central nervous system heals.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 i have too
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849how do i reach you? im dying..eyes shutting and chaotic brain non stop. brain showing non stop visual hallicinations in mind eyes and alien thoughts
What drugs were you on and why did you take them?
Antidepressants. Took them when I was in a dark patch, wish I never touched them.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 so sorry this happened to you … I’m on a similar journey after my mom died 19 months ago and tried so many and did Tms and ketamine but nothing worked .. issue is I’m still severely depressed and severe anxiety and therapy doesn’t help … so how do you live with the conditions you took the meds for to begin with ?
The minor conditions I took the meds for are nothing compared to the damage these drugs have done to me now.
Having severe depression and anxiety is like celebrating a lottery win every day over living with severe neurological damage from Psychiatric drugs. Stay away from these meds if possible, and if you are to use them, make sure you’re aware of the very possible risks that await you. These drugs are for short term use, never long term.
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 you should never been prescribed these drugs for minor conditions and I’m so sorry that you are suffering and damaged .. either that said severe depression severe anxiety panic with constant suicidal ideation are not a walk in the park .. it’s pure hell..
@@livingunderachemicalinflue5849 your experience is horrible and I’m so so sorry that you were prescribed these meds for minor conditions .. with that said severe depression severe anxiety panic w constant ideation is far from a walk in the park ie it’s pure hell… I hope you feel better soon