GW2 - Willbender - WILL THIS GUARDIAN SPEC RUIN THE META ??? - WvW Roaming & Zerg - EOD Beta Test
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This doesn’t work any more right…. Because I am trying to do the same. And I know I am doing something wrong
The build is indeed dead, since they added a CD on shattered aegis... Which is for the best
Intro was nutty
Not to discredit you or your skill in anyway, but this seems quite reminiscent of the reworked Berserker situation, where one could instantly down multiple enemies with a single GS F1 in berserk mode. But the very moment one tried it against competent players (people who know what their skills actually do), nothing seemed to work, and you're the one in downstate.
I feel like the same can be achieved even if you play core guardian/dragonhunter against these enemies, making willbender rather unappealing.
I like the concept of this specialisation, but honestly, I doubt it's competitive against what we already have for guardian, even when it come to being played as a DPS role, at the current state. Hopefully they make necessary changes for launch.
I do agree about what you said for berserker but the thing with this build is that you won't die for 6sec (maybe corruption can throw you off), the only challenge is to follow their group and get out, so I die a lot when I'm alone or just going full kamikaze mode which is not very smart lol.
I also think good and bad players don't really matter (we tried it in GvG), and that's an issue. It's very hard to notice that a guy jumped on you when you're attacking (spike, bomb, whatever), then you need to step away and not attack. All of this in less than a sec or there will be a few downs. It's also a pain when you can't attack a guy because it will absolutly kill you for about 6sec. Berserker is easier to counter imo
Obviously I'm not playing it as its best lol. But the main difference with DH (core isn't that great imo), is that you have a bit more DPS spike AND it's on fewer targets, so it's very effective but has way more CD and it's harder to get value out of it, because you need to use F3 when the opponent is attacking. So DH is still better overall I think. But not as fun
Thank you for your comment, it's nice to have a discussion rather than the regular "it's garbage" lol
@@rektyu7035 You make several good points there, can't say I disagree.
I mainly play WvW as a roamer, but don't miss out on joining a squad on voice for large-scale stuff, was in a guild but GvG experience is rather low. From the little experience I have of guardian, the new specialization came off rather underwhelming.
From a DPS perspective, DH felt way more competitive. Willbender was fun, but from the previews from Anet, I expected way higher burst since you're giving up a lot in terms of survivability. Sure there's a ton of mobility, and several immunities against damage, but the time I spent roaming with it, it perfomed way worse with similar effort compared to core/dragonhunter. The other elites felt much better in terms of gameplay imo.
Also iirc, berserkers ran some defense utilities as well in order to counteract instant downstate, "Endure Pain" with "Balanced Stance" / "Berserker Stance" was often enough for creating a window for survival or damage, when used in a similar way as the Willbender gameplay, but yeah, Willbender has a bit more to offer.
Either way, can't wait for the expansion, been too stale playing the same classes in the same fashion, any change is welcome at this point.
Yea this is just honeymoon phase where ppl dont really knw much abt the class. I still remember using whirling axe zerk with double endure pain
yeah I kinda noticed a severe lack of immobilize spam on the Guardian, that I usually see with these types of builds. As an avid WvW player I would expect him to be down in only a few seconds if he comes near the teams I'm either running with or running against.
@@rektyu7035 6 sec of invuln doesn't matter when you are constantly cc'ed. Vs an organized group you will get stripped and fucked.
kinda happy i found this with the beta going. willing to share this build or what youre planning possibly? had fun proving to my guild Bladesworn was beastly and would love to show them this
The build was nerfed ^^ It doesn't work anymore
fearlessBender
oh yeah, the blue berserker playstyle
Teapot is still right tho
"They have no time to play at war."
godtier intro
What makes the aegis to pop so fast?
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do you have a build out?
I hope they don't change it
I just imagine a group of 5 willbenders zerg busting with this.
We tried 3 it's alrdy very effective, add a DH or something else to cleave and job's done
Anet just ads a 3 sec cdr on the trait and it's fixed. Then people will just play it for roaming as anet intended it to be :).
Wait what
uwu
Unlucky
i have seen multiple ppl get the same results with dragonhunter or even core guardian. i don't really see it being the willbender at all. when your healing skill runs out and you don't have any more aegis you are pretty much dead due to ur extremely low hp.
Damn now I want to see you solo a raid boss
Lol not gonna happen trust me
@@rektyu7035 do it anyway
WHAT THE FUCK
Works against bad players that stand close together and stay close together?
You are in a 50 players blob, an unknown player jumps on you, do you fear and run away or do you spam 1 with your 50 players squad because he's just a fly in a 1v50?
The 2nd choice is what everyone do and the reason the build works. The only condition is having at least 3 people that are actually reactive enough to hit you in melee, close together yes but I wouldn't say that they are bad lol
@@rektyu7035 wvw players are exactly same players as open world pve players.
90% is absolute trash with garbage gear and 0 knowledge of how to BURST or deal/avoid dmg...
@@IIIiiiDAWiiiIII lol I'm not saying that's wrong, what I said is that their skills do NOT matter cuz it's impossible to play around it
@@rektyu7035 ppl in wvw following tag as sheep for many hours,thats definetly not adding to their reaction time.
but if you are paying attenting you cant be surprised by this,bcs there are many HEROES which gona solo blink/rush/jump into zergs.... especialy bubble warriors love to sacrifice.
@@rektyu7035 the thing is, that the sustain of a 50man blob cannot be penetrated by the damage you're dealing.
So these players are obviously afk or smt.
I mean we all know this is bullshit but I can imagine a meta emerge around this where zergs need to zone the willbenders out and spacing becomes really important.
I kind of love the idea of zerg fights being a bit more spread out. I see it a lot when you have two large unorganized groups and the game just looks so epic hahah
content stealing is NOK
I think most people who tried on the willbender know it's buggy, clunky. Sword offhands are trash if i am to be frank. The traits are all over the places. This build on display only exploit the single one trait that makes allow him to spam virtue 3. The number looks nice only in group fight but lack finishing touch. Willbender is practically a troll is what I am saying. Im not trashing the spec but it needs ALOT of fixes. These sort of click bait tittles can be toxic to the spec health i hope you realize.
Just dodge
Not really difficult to pop aegises and heal, go in and go wild before time ends....so, as Teapot says is true still.
I mean, those numbers or the style looks like a berserker going crazy.....a dragon hunter probably can do similarly....but lets wait and see how it behaves in a real damage meta like in europe. It might have its uses or application but my guess still is: Very limited...but perhaps up to gvg content and not bvb...at least that is my guess. YOu cannot get highest mobility, highest damage and reasonable damage avoidance all at the same time or the thing is broken....so it will not stay, if thats the case.
I mean: Being more mobile and still do more melee dps than things like a herald on doublesword....the double sword damage is a laugh already in comparison to a dragonhunter melee output. I hope that a rev gets a less lackluster weapon with greatsword...as greatsword is nerfed and staff was on par until cc skills got no damage.
so guardian is cancer, fb is cancer, dh is cancer and this is even more cancerous I will enjoy the game for sure
this spec was actually horseshit, way worse than core guardian and DH, it will get heavily buffed most likely.
it dies very easy, it has no passives, no blocks while still suffers from the very low hp guardian has, the dashes/teleports he got are too short and irrelevant you can't actually disengage from a situation.
FB, DH and core are way better than this.
@@akhsdenlew1861 better if they wont buff it then...
@@THEKING-je6wl they already did i think,we'll see on the next beta.
its broken mechanic that 1 sec icd will fix it, overall willbender is garbage.,
Every new build will be extreme op, same as last expansions....old builds will be useless, so you have to buy the expansion... pvp will be pure metashit.
actually it seems like quite the opposite.
All the 3 new specs seem quite underhelming compared to the Overpowerness of POF specs.
wilbender was the worst out of the 3 new classes probably.
But honestly, they are going up against Dragonhunter, mirage and reaper.
If the new specs are stronger, then the game would be hordeshit cus of how overpowered they would be.
POF specs needs to be nerfed way more...
Like... what spec can ranger possibly take, to replace soulbeast? it's impossible lol
Warrior is dogshit and the new spec will be dogshit so who cares.
there's no way Thiefs are dropping the overpowered daredevil..
I don't even wanna talk about weaver, too op in the right hands with the celestial builds.
I can't imagine revenants without their glint heal.
The pof specs are way too good right now to be replaced...
and they were nerfed very much since their release already, but still OP as fuck compared to those new elite specs.
@@akhsdenlew1861 what a relevant opinion
@@TheRealScarion Honestly, looking back when i wrote the comment, ( when only 3 of the 9 specs were released), it feels like i was more right than i thought.
As expected for the most part the new specs are dogshit, especially for pvp/wvw.
For pve.. maybe 1 or 2 specs can sneak their way into some meta but that's it.
And even that is debetable cus things like bladesworn ( doing 1million damage with burst skill) is gonna get fixed cus its just a fluke.
Overall the specs of this expansion was a disappointment.
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