Camping On Public Land - What About The Gate?
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- More on how to find and camp on public land. Proper gate etiquette and how to handle the sometimes difficult "loop" gate to access BLM (Bureau of Land Management) land. Yep, Linda came across a diamond back rattler and was a lucky girl to not get bit.
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We used to call the can opener a 'church key'.
ole canole In the Royal Navy it was also called a “Singapore alarm clock”. Another great vlog, many thanks. AJ
We still use today.
That's a bottle opener, beer.
Learned a new thing today how to open a gate👍
You guys find some of the coolest old structures. Good eye on that snake, Linda!
We used a couple of gates like that. The place my brothers and I used to hunt on had some also. Was easy when I was younger, ha ha! Paracord idea is a great solution!
Over here in Central Oregon they called them Stretch gates. Mostly because it’s so hard to stretch them back closed. Usually they will have a piece of wood and chain on one end to work as a cheater bar. If they don’t, a harbor, freight ratchet strap works really well too.
I'm 42 and i remember opening big cans of juice with those can openers :)
I remember that canned juice and my parents always bought it because it was cheap.
Good trick on the gap gate. Can opener- Church Key.
That's right!
This last weekend we watched several episodes. We live in Shawnee, OK. I was born in Lewistown, Montana and go back to visit often. My husband and I love your adventures. He has two more years before retirement and hope to go on some adventures like you two. You have inspired us.
You go Cheryl! Lewistown is a beautiful town and area.
I still use my Pabst Blue Ribbon can opener. I am 70, and it was in our house when I was a little kid. Still works great. My kids think it’s an antique, like me.
Your kids sound like mine.
Thanks Linda. You're a little bad ass! Thank you for the tip. I am 5'2" so show us all the tricks you know!
Leverage, you can do anything, almost!
Thanks, Nancy, I appreciate being called bad ass, lol. ~~~Linda
hahahahahaha
When I was a kid, pop was in glass bottles. We kids use to collect them and return them to a store and get money back. We were not allowed to drink pop but we could get ice cream or fruit (watermelon & peaches were favorites).
Good memories. From all the bottles and beer cans we find I wish there was still a worthwhile deposit involved.
Your videos give me inspiration and direction. We called the can openers Church keys. Beautiful country, Thanks for sharing it.
I remember the steel cans. I visited family in the Bronx New York. "Penguin" soda! You needed a can opener some people call it a church key for liquid access... Let us not forget growing up in the sixties those giant cans of Hi-C that needed a can opener😀
Also, the soda bottles needed the OTHER side of the church key. No twist-offs!
I have been through gates like that for years growing up and have actually made a few. Simple and reliable no hardware required. I Like the rope trick. I used my shoulder pushing and my arm pulling to open the tight ones.
Most of them I can operate without too much difficulty but the one we chose to do this demonstration was a real tough one! I figure there are so many new travelers on the road that they might need to know how to wrestle one of these.
True you have to respect the power of that snake. I have found that carrying a spray bottle of water, (a bottle that can squirt a stream not a "fog"),and squirting it will move it away post haste.
You can make a gate opener from a tire thumper or other length of wood/metal. Drill a hole on one end and put the paracord through it with a knot on the end. Make a loop on the free end. Place the loop over the moveable post and put the handle behind the stationary post as a lever. Easier on your hands. We attach one to our gap gates and leave them hanging there.
I can picture that! Thanks rg1599. We've been through a bunch of those gates the past few weeks.
My father taught me that gate trick when I was a youngin. I love your videos. Linda is an inspiration. Thank you so much for sharing your vids with all. Merry Christmas!
Thanks Caroline!
One "Loop" closure fence trick: put shoulder to top post of gate, remove loop. Reverse process to close. Where gloves to protect hands.
Very Nice gate opening Linda ! Nice trick for All to learn Kudos to U 2 for sharing that one.
Thank you kindly Murray!
I've circumnavigated hwy 50 from Delta Utah to Sparks Nevada 3 times. I call it the Most Beautiful Road in America!
I have to agree, it's beautiful.
excellent video, loved the old homestead...don't much like buzztails...i wrap the end of the rope around a stick, bit easier to pull, can't remember who first showed me that method...i never thought about using a stud finder to pinpoint buried objects...Brilliant!
Rabbit bush? yes...always fun to watch your travels loaded with fun and often useful tips!...atvb....Dave
Thanks for checking in Dave!
Many years ago L.L.Bean used to sell a repellent called “Old Woodsman” it smelled so bad we thought it might repel bear!
i spent a lot of time in scossa nevada. it was a gold mining camp. it’s north of where you were on the other side of 80. about 3 miles from the old camp is a complete stamp mill out in the middle of nowhere. about two miles northwest from camp is the applegate fairbairn trail which is an ok road. there is a marker for the trail off the main road. you can’t see it but a little ways on the trail is a gate and about a 10 square mile area that’s fenced off where they keep wild horses.
That sounds like an interesting area. We haven't yet explored NW Nevada but intend to. Thanks!
Once again you guys produced a great video. I am almost 70 so can identify with most stories you refer to. I really enjoy your style of talking & showing things, nice balance. Some channels they just sit on the sofa or chair & talk. You provide by the areas of your video's places my wife & I can't travel to, for that we are very grateful.
Thank you for a very nice comment James, we appreciate that.
When I was a kid I ruined fishing gear with deet . That was a LONG time ago and I’ll never forget it. Never much liked deet ever since.
In AZ we had “cedar gnats” in the juniper forrests. Tenacious little devils. I’m looking forward to trying this new repellant. Sounds like a real winner.
You two seem so well suited for each other. Linda strikes me as being a real treasure - great travel and camping companion. Easy going, agreeable, a real gem! My wife of 42 years WILL camp, but she prefers hotel/motel accommodations. “Roughing it” to her is dead batteries in the TV remote.🤣
Curious thing about rattlesnakes, herpetologists think that by killing those that are prone to rattle we are shaping learned behavioral traits. Silent rattlers live and raise young more likely to be silent. Interesting theory.
I heard that about rattlers and I can attest to our Montana prairie rattlers not always rattling, even when you're right on top of them. Not sure why though, maybe preserving heat here in cold country. The worst mosquitoes I've ever experienced were in AZ! Yes, Linda is a keeper for sure.
@@gonagain I lived in Show Low, up in the White mountains. Most of the time they were OK, but right after a rain they were VICIOUS! Once, while riding in a truck, as I slowed with my arm out the window, a mosquito timed his flight, lit on my arm as I moved, and impaled me before I could stop and swat him! The cedar gnats could be pretty bad too.
I haven't heard of the cedar knats before but they must be like noseeums which leave a welt for days.
My uncle was in the CCC but I can't remember what it stands for. I truly love your videos
Stay safe out there.
Hi Robyn, it was the Civilian Conservation Corps. We can't have anything like that these days because Government is no longer allowed to compete with private business, but it would be so much better than welfare. My dad just loved it.
Always interesting how to do things easier like the barb wire loop gate and safer...
We got tired of wrestling with the barb wire.
Some need to be shown not told, so good for the two of you doing it...
Hello again Gonagain hope all is well with you. I use to run into those gates all the time I always used a ratchet strap less work but she did a great job at that. The good old days when you needed a Church key to open your Beer I remember them well. I love old stone buildings wish I lived in one. You two stay safe and we hope your tomorrow is better than your today was.
Hey Den, one person commented that the stone building was most likely a pony express station. It's on the trail and matches the type.
@@gonagain I think it's still cool and if I had the money would live in a stone building I love them always have.
@@Cockeyed_Den8213 and you never have to paint them!
@@gonagain That's a good thing. :)
Thanks for the info about the snake.
I have a question about the map Linda was looking at. I believe you have mentioned this before about these maps. Are they maps for each state showing National and BLM land and how do you get them. Again I apologize for asking but this time I will save your answer so I won't have to ask again. I would like to add to your comment about gate etiquette.That was good advice for ALL people who are boondock camping. Because of the situation we are dealing with in America more and more inexperienced people have begun to camp and have no knowledge of camping etiquette. I know for a fact you have seen this with trash being left behind at campsite. So keep up the good work have fun and keep those camping tips coming! Thanks!
Hello Alan, you're certainly right about the new, inexperienced campers this year and we're hoping that next year will be better as they learn how to treat the environment. The maps we prefer are the Delorme brand maps of each state and, as a matter of fact, I have another one arriving today of Utah. You can find these on Amazon.
@@gonagain Thanks for your reply I'll check them out. I wanted to add when Linda was trying to open the gate and was having a difficult time with it my mind immediately said HEY get a ratchet strap but Linda figured it out she's one smart cookie! Lol
You guys have such a wealth of knowledge, write a book please
That is why I always bring ratchet straps. They work great for gates. Barbwire will cut you bad if you get unlucky.
Good idea to have a couple in your kit.
My father too was in the CCC the civilian conservation corps was drafted right out of it into world war II but he had rheumatic fever when he was a child and he was 4f
We needed a lot of the boys here at home for support too. Many of my uncles worked for BF Goodrich and Goodyear and they all had to stay home to keep cranking out tires.
Great job Linda knowing territory and keeping eyes ready for other inhabitants. Easy to forget we are not the only living creatures around. Safe travels and thank you for sharing.
Linda had to learn to be constantly aware because there's no snakes in Hawaii, where she grew up. Thanks!
A variation of the technique you used on the loop post fence is to tie off the paracord and then place a stick (short toggle) between the paracord strands and twist it around to tighten the loop. This can help someone with weak or arthritic hands. The same technique is used to tension a buck saw frame. The toggle lays against the frame to hold the tension. Great video Rick and Linda. That rattlesnake saw Linda and said I’m out of here......
Hi Grumpy, that's a good tip for tightening the paracord.
Grumpyneanderthal Called Tourniquet method.
Nice going on the gate Linda. That's a good trick thanks for sharing it. I've learned that "look where you're walking and stop moving if you want to look around" rule from you guys and an earlier video you did. Very useful for someone like me who hasn't grown up in that kind of country. Thanks for doing this and stay safe!
Thanks 29Roadie!
Let me throw a tip in on the loop gate before I finish this video. Picture a good strong limb, 18 inches or 24, with a small chain on one end, or a 1inch pipe which is better to carry, the chain needs to be plenty long and 2 feet or so 3 is ok if you will weld a chain hook on the end of the pipe, wrap one end around top of post like you did when tying off the paracord, Put your pipe on the gate side of gate post angle to the fence side and hook your chain, now pull the pipe towards Linda and the loop is loose. Same putting it back. Fulcrum effect and just a good hard stick or tire iron and a rope, or good wire laying around will get the job done.
I can see how that would work well. Good idea Brandon.
Linda sure knows how to find those Rattlers LOL, the stone work on those buildings is amazing thanks for sharing
I hope she doesn't find any more.
Thats was a nice truck with the paracord!
Helps to keep that stuff around.
You were right about that being rabbit brush. My wife is lucky like Linda, if there is a rattlesnake in the area, she will be the one to come across it. Like a lot of folks she is definitely afraid of all snakes. I'm not afraid of them, but I most definitely have a healthy respect for them and give them their distance when at all possible. I still have several "church keys" hanging on my refrigerator in the garage. Used to still open bottles as my hands don't work as well as they once did and the twist offs sometimes give me trouble.
Some of those twist-offs require vicegrips! Just about...
I long to be out of town. 😔
Thanks for taking me along. Cool old stone house. Makes you wish they came with a book, or recording of their history, doesn't it?
One person commented that it was a pony express station. It's on the trail so it could be.
Thanks for the gate trick especially for petite ladies! You guys are great and I hope you stay safe and well!
Thank you Tricia!
Love your videos! We are a huge fan of simple living to have Big Adventures! 😃 We can't wait to see where y'all take us next.
With winter coming on you can bet it will be south. Thanks for watching!
Lot's of gates like that in the desert just east of Congress, Az. One of my FAVORITE stomping grounds in Az. Sometimes you really FIGHT those gates,but you get better after awhile.
Thanks Dennis. I just learned that there's a tool for those gates. What'll they think of next?
Good thing she saw the snake and it was going away. Yikes! Thanks for showing us some back country in the desert.
Ole is right. The word you were searching for was 'church key', but you probably knew that.
I thought Linda was supposed to go first beating the brush with a stick...
You also probably know how to open the gate but wanted to demonstrate the paracord trick which was great to learn.
I've hunted ranches for decades, and have had several friends with ranches. For those that don't know, you put your shoulder up against the post, lean into it while using the hand on the same side to pull the other post to you. The off-hand raises the wire while squeezing them together. Sometimes the solid post works best for the shoulder, sometimes the loose post. A lot of getting it done is just learning the correct technique. My rancher friend's wife was not a strong woman and was short too. She could open some gates that I found a little tough. I was in my 20's and could carry a chevy short block at the time (385lbs). She had good technique.
Great tip and technique as long as the barbed wire isn't too aggressive.
That's why you put your shoulder into the post between the wires.
By the way, if your shoulder is above the top fence wire and on the post that the loop goes over, be real careful as you let off the pressure after putting the loop back on the post. Make sure the wire is on the post and not on you. I managed to get the skin on my shoulder under the loop when I let off once. That brings tears to your eyes.
@@jimv.661 Yeah, that would hurt!
Great video guys! You sure have to watch for the ground critters in the desert. The old gate is called a gap in cow country, built a few myself and the yella flower was Rabbit Tobacco. Be safe and thanks for another great video! Safe travels....
Thanks for the terms. I wonder if the rabbits smoke it?
Hi I like your camping/traveling set up
Thanks Paul!
Hey Rick & Linda. Good advice to keep your eyes peeled with snake territory!!!
At least you don’t have coral snakes , Diamond backs, Pygmy rattlesnake, cotton mouths, etc etc 😬. Yup Florida is fun to!! Lol 👍🍺
I don't know if we'd be doing as much poking around in Florida as we do here!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa Lihda you did it, that's awesome, I will probably never get there from Tennessee. Who knows, but thanks for the demo, just in case! You brought up a nice memory for me, when I was in high school our coke machine took a nickle for a drink. The Coke Company put in new machines and then it was a dime, we picketed for a whole week over that! lol Blessings
I put Deep Woods Off on my hands when I was hunting and it took the finish off my gun stock
That's too bad. This picaridin won't do that.
When I was a kid I ruined fishing gear with deet . That was a LONG time ago and I’ll never forget it. Never much liked deet ever since.
In AZ we had “cedar gnats” in the juniper forrests. Tenacious little devils. I’m interested in trying this new repellant. Sounds like a winner!
Oh man, you're making me really miss desert camping! I've got a new rig now and will be getting back to that for sure. Thanks for sharing and inspiring! Church key cans, ahhh, memories.
"It looks a bit snakey here..." Haha, indeed. We have plenty of those bitey-rattley little guys here where I live and just like you said, always need to keep an eye on the ground. "NO STEP ON SNEK!" >"====!
Early evening is also a time to beware of the diamond backs in hotter places as they like to hunt when it cools a bit. Being pit vipers they do have infrared vision of sorts. I see plenty of them this time of year mountain biking at dusk and just after dark.
I have always hated snakes, but I have to say that in 20 years of desert exploring that's the first one we've seen. I think it's because we are always moving slow, making noise and being really careful. I've seen far more in Montana.
Great job Rick and Linda, I love the metal detector, the suspense of the buzz. I've always wanted to do a little gold panning for the fun of it, maybe a video on gold panning somewhere. Love your work, educational with history ....thanx for sharing
Thanks for checking in David, and for commenting.
Another great vlog, many thanks. AJ
Thanks again Alan!
For flies and mosquitos and a thermacell is great and ive seen on utube you can refill them lil canisters, they work great!, safe travels!
On our farm in Oklahoma we called those gaits "cockney gaits". There's a tool shaped like the letter F thats helps open them when they're too tight.
Now you tell me! I could have been using that tool for years already. I just learned that the term "cockney gate" comes from Australia where the land owner known as a cockney.
I've heard it said that one should leave a gate the way one found it; if it's open leave it open and if it is closed, leave it closed...sometimes easier said than done!
You heard right! My thought with this video was to help folks like yourself handle the situation. This particular gate was a tough one, even for me.
Put your right shoulder on gate post under the looped wire, grab the solid post with hand, push with your body and pull with your hand, slip wire up and there you go. Repeat to close.
Amazing stone work on those buildings.Did you see any water or watering holes close by the buildings? Great Video
I didn't notice any, but Nevada has a lot of subterranean aquifers and wells are common.
What a cool building I am truly enjoying watching your adventures thank you for sharing
Thank you Laura.
Great stuff,,, Be well out there!
Thank you John.
Around here those gates are called “ Hugger gates “ . And you used to get a free “ church key “ with each six pack 😉 !
Hugger gates. I see how they'd get that name!
Thanks for the video...hoping yall well..peace💜🤗
Thank you Joe.
“Cowboys Gates” is what I heard them called half a century ago and of course “Churchkeys” before the pull tabs known as “kid openers” because they always stepped on that sharp little sucker!!
BTW, deet Is some bad stuff, I only buy It to clean my headlight lenses and works great for that, the picaridin works great for biting flies and such, keep up the good videos and be safe.👍🇺🇸
On headlight lenses? I never thought of that but will try it. Linda started using picaridin and got me to try it for mosquitos and I was impressed (I hate mosquitos).
The Adventure Continues. NICE. Our Western History is Really Cool. I Love the Locations you are in While Going Through Nevada. So Much Open Space. And Yes, I have Almost Stepped on Rattle Snakes for Not Looking Down Many Times, Too Numerous to Mention. 80% of the time They Don't 'Light-Up'. Meaning Start to Rattle. Watch Your Feet.(I wear Snake Gaiters or Full Blown Snake Boots.)(They are Real Hot to Wear) HAPPY TRAILS Ric & Linda. Be Safe & God Bless.
I hear you about the snake boots. We just do our best to stay clear of where they might be. I didn't like that area as we were going in and voiced it to Linda at the same time she saw it.
good info, thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching!
Awesome ruins, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Gringo.
Another great video by one of my favorite couples. What is your backup plan should your vehicle not work when your so far out? Thanks so much for all the great info 👍 had to watch twice. ✌🙏🇺🇸💞
Never get so far out that you can't walk back and keep plenty of water on hand. That's a really good question because the cell service is always weak or non-existent. But it's like when we used to cross oceans in a small sailboat. People would ask if we had a radio and the answer was no. Who would we call? The Coast Guard handles the "coast" and we didn't feel it was right to ask others to risk their lives to come bail our sorry selves out. We just made sure we had the skill, knowledge, tools and parts to help ourselves, including medical supplies and knowing how to use them. It's exactly the same in this case too. Really great question and I've tried to touch on it in the past.
@@gonagain oh heavenly day. I will have to settle for watching your adventures. I could never be a nurse-blood/needles! 🤢 🙏✌🇺🇸💞
Hey Linda
Great job on the gate.
I Usually close gate behind me.
Sometimes there's a cattle guard with gate on the side moving cattle to another grazing area. It might depend on situation.
Hey u guys. Great video.
What about that egg salad sandwich?
The sandwich was thick and tasty with plenty of mayo!
Go Mrs. Linda! 💪👩 👍😃
She's little, but she's tough. Farm girl is the reason.
Good going Linda, I have used that
technique my self and works good, a better one Is to let him do It, lol
Shhhh! I have her convinced that snakes attack from the rear and I'm protecting her.
“Won’t harm gear or equipment because it won’t melt it.”🤣🤣 Way to spot that snake 🐍 I’ll be boondocking alone. The possibility of getting struck by a rattler when I’m alone worries me😰 Way cool spot though. You guys know how to pick em!😊👍🏽
Just walk slow and it's best to carry a walking stick to jostle the bushes in front of you. Better yet is to stay away from the bushes to begin with! In that particular terrain anyway.
I have opened a lot of gates like that, never seen the paracord trick. I give Linda a A plus for opening that gate. I remember the cans you had to open with what we called a church key. I really like that open country. If you ever metal detect a old town, be sure to check around the old post offices. Take care
Thanks for the tip WR. Most of the places we get to are in public land so taking artifacts is illegal. We metal detect for gold and silver all the time though!
You go Linda!
hello from the sunny ozarks rick and linda!! another inspirational adventure!! how do you prevent someone from putting their locks on the outside and locking you inside at night? tight lines and cheers!!
Well, it just so happens we did a video on that! czcams.com/video/Hw-9VlzWcb0/video.html
You could use the pull tab to adjust the ignition points. That is if your vehicle had them.
Finally a use for them!
Matchbook covers work also for setting points
How about oil cans where you have to pop the filler through the top of the can! The good days I guess. I remember those days : ) i’m kind of surprised you guys don’t have snake boots they’ve saved my butt a few times.
They're to darn hot and we'd be in them constantly. Good idea though.
snaky .. yes scary .. good video
Nice video thank you
Thanks for watching Eutimio!
Pony Express building, there are a few in Nevada.
Hey! That building is on the Pony Express trail! Thanks for commenting.
My dad bought a piece of property when I was a kid. We spent a day clearing a driveway out to it. The next morning I found a rattlesnake. Showed it to my dad, he said get in the truck we’re leaving. Never went back to that piece of property. Dad hates snakes.
I'm with your dad on that.
Would love to know the stories behind some of those old buildings.. for someone hearing impaired what is your opinion on going into locations that you go to like that.. thanks and be safe
We don't depend in hearing a rattlesnake rattle because many times they don't. We just move slow and look carefully ahead and to each side. You'll be fine.
And a nice long walking stick never hurts to have.
Good tips as usual... Thanks, question? What do you do with your gray water? I have heard of environment friendly shampoo and dish soap... Safe travels Perry
We just donate it to the driest looking bush nearby. There's not much of it and we don't have a grey water tank.
Hey Guys, Great Video !!! My metal detector is very old! Do you like the one you use? And what is it? I will check out that bug stuff! Thanks👍🍺
Ours is just an inexpensive Bounty Hunter Tracker 4, but it uses a LOT less battery than my old White did. I'd like to have something with more discrimination, maybe a Garret AT Pro our other.
So, you had to have a can opener? Wow that’s quite an artifact.😉
Oh the troubles we had to go thru in the old days.
You know, as beautiful as this area is, I'm a city slicker, and would go "Snakey", in a place like that. ha-ha, see you in the next one. P.S, have a cold snack for me!
Will do Mark.
Good tip on the bug repellant!
You guys could have had some nice rattlesnake for supper. LOL ( I hate them damn things )
Nice video guys , thanks for sharing.
JT
Not sure I would want to eat one unless It was absolutely necessary!
@@gonagain
I'm with you on that one. The 1st two shots in my sidearm are snake shot.
thanks for the gate rope trick, also what kind of metal dectector is that ? you happy with it ? and in your other video you had a small hand-held type whats that? great video again thanks be safe david
Our metal detector is just an inexpensive Bounty Hunter Tracker 4. It's as powerful as most of the more costly ones but doesn't have the same level of discrimination. The handheld unit is a Point GP-Pointer and helps you pinpoint what your metal detector found.
@@gonagain thanks to you both enjoy watching you guys
Fifty fifty Detol and Baby Oil, great repelant.
Linda is bad ass!
Yeah she is. I've put her through hell in the past and she always comes through unscathed. Thanks for watching Mike.
Thank you for not killing the snake.
It would be fascinating to know the history of the specific structures your visited. Hey there is a snake. What kind is it? Alive. Bye. God bless
It was a diamond back. As for the building it's hard to know, but it may be a Pony Express station.
It's a nice place!
thank you!
Thanks for watching dadams19111
Church key, always have one, you never know when you will need it.
I was wondering your map situation, the best are topo's but getting each one would be expensive. I've rediscovered national geographic CD topo's, haven't been created in 15yrs but still available. Run on a laptop.
Thanks for that tip. Our travels are usually not planned at all and we mainly just take the road as it comes. The main map source that we have been using is the DeLorme map books for each state that we frequent. They're ok for most purposes, but not for detailed topography like what you'd need for a hike. Your suggestion would be great for that.
Over here those gates are known as "Cocky's Gates"😂. The owner of a property is general know as the "Cocky". Yeah, people get a bit carried away making the top loop too small sometimes 😂. You oughta try 'em on horseback, 😂. My last horses were 16 & 16.5hh which was a problem with tight gates, but no problem for easy gates.
Thanks for posting, enjoyed the scenes.
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Thanks Pilot!
In the good old days we called beer can openers CHURCH KEYS!
Get you some snake boots and you will never see another snake.
Lol! You're probably right about that as far as the boots are concerned, but they're too dang hot!
Maybe take along a ratchet tie down strap for the gates…
Yes, good idea.