Grandma Returns: Will She Finally Apologize For The Molester Husband?
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- Dr. Phil continues his conversation with Ashley and Megan, who say they were sexually abused for years by their step-grandfather. And although he has been convicted, the siblings say their grandmother, Peggy, continues to deny that the abuse ever took place. Peggy insists her granddaughters are lying and have ruined her life. Is there any hope of fixing this fractured family? Hear from Ashley and Megan’s mother, Brenda, who says she is furious with Peggy, whom she trusted to care for her daughters. Did Brenda ever suspect anything was going on? How can Ashley and Megan begin to heal the wounds of the past and move forward? Plus, Dr. Phil shares information every parent needs to know to keep their kids safe. This program contains strong sexual content. Viewer discretion advised. (2213302)
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Worst grandmother ever!!! Her rotten friend is just as bad!!!!!!!
Is it possible that she dosen't know the real truth because of what the grandma told her friend? Many people don't understand the complexity of sexually abused and the psychological ramifications that it has on the abused, the abuser and the other people around them. Because I have been sexually molested, I know when another person has been sexually abused or raped. They don't have to say anything some how you just know.
You got that right.
Facts
I agree
This grandma cant admit the truth. You can tell she knew. Horrible selfish woman. SHE WAS THE ADULT
Truth hurts sometimes
Grandma is in denial and part of that is because of her ignorance about how grooming works. 5:29
She set those babies up so she could keep her man. Thats what her denial is. She should be in prison!
LIKE JEN SOTO WITH MADDIE, SHE KNEW WHAT HE DID JUST LIKE THIS GRANDMA KNEW.
I can't imagine having that on my conscious.
Absolutely, she knew what was going on and allowed it to happen.
What a horrible woman. She has no empathy or compassion for her granddaughters and the other victims. Disgraceful.
I wonder if she was jealous of her granddaughters...he was turned on by them and not her. The whole thing is so sick and twisted.
You could almost see the glass of denial shattering in her mind, and she just couldn't confront it so she walked off. It's unfortunate that she directed that dissonance towards her grandchildren and lashed out. They did not ruin her life. What a terrible thing to say to a victim who had the bravery to come forward.
Well said and you are 100% correct to me
She's a narcissist
@@shellbellhealingthe grandmother is a sicko. She protects her despicable paedophile husband instead of her grandchildren. She's a paedophile herself.
@@shellbellhealing I agree, and it's astounding to me that Dr. Phil hoped she'd reflect on any of what was talked about. She doesn't care about those young women; she only cares about herself and protecting her fragile ego.
these bitches even LOOK evil.
She doesn't have to apologise for her husband, she has to apologise over how she handled the news, and how she's been victim blaming, and calling her grandchildren liars for 20 years.
Yup!!
Also, she was in the room while he was doing it!
She knew he was doing it and she don’t want to admit it because of how terrible it makes her look to everyone.
The grandmother is a horrible person and a danger to children, also.
@@PaulaValentine-pi6jpbut by her actions they already think that.look at her reaction the first time before she walked out. She gave the audience a very cold look when they reacted to what was said.
The one granddaughter said grandma would bathe her, wrap her in a towel, and say, “ John is waiting for you.” That is creepy and scary as heck. It makes it sound as if she was preparing them for him and then sending them in for him to do whatever he wanted.
that's disgusting!!
Absolutely 💯
Aaoch!! Creepy😮😢
Yes it dose.
🤮🤮🤢🤢😱
Even if their grandmother apologized, I STILL wouldn’t want to have anything to do with her ever again! Let her live whatever life she has left ALONE , or with the lady beside her
She's mad because she's guilty!! Plain and simple!
Guilty people always act in anger!
Only a monster would turn a blind eye to abuse! That “grandmother” is no victim. She is complicit and disgusting!
He was impotent with an adult woman because he wanted children.
Yes! BINGO BABY
When I heard that I was like YOUUUUU DUMMMMMMYYYYY
Exactly 💯
My thoughts exactly. The guy was a perv.
Devil's advocate time: imagine being that woman and the mental walls you would have to build to protect yourself from "my husband thinks the granddaughter is hotter than me, what is wrong with me". Not saying it's right, far from it, just how twisted she's made herself which explains why she can't crack it now.
Don't build your life on lies, just be as open and honest as possible.
Mother: If you have to call someone to ask the question, don't let your child go back over.
Seems like common sense.
Yes, like what do you expect them to answer? Ofcourse they say everthing is ok.
The hardness on the deniers faces are the same. Bitter , old, mean , angry
THIS!!!!
And wrinkled 😆
@@irideaunicorn1620 That's irrelevant. Other wrinkled grandmas are very nice.
I've unfortunately been in Ashley's situation. However, my family swooped in and saved me from my abuser. He was kicked out of the family thankfully died several years ago after getting into a bad car crash. From what I heard he lived a very sad life after he was cut off. The best revenge is a life well lived.
💯
Still so sorry this happened to you. God bless
Wat a horrible grandmother 😢
@@arlismills3133 I'm so sorry. Those people are terrible. I hope they are no longer part of your life.
@@reginahayman2181 Thankfully my grandma wasn't like this woman, my grandma was on my side and divorced him.
This is why victims don't say anything
Grandma knows the truth she saw the crime he committed that she hid and can't defend it.
She’s a disgrace to any human being to insist that her husband wasn’t Quilty.
Shame on her and people like her
'It was rigged"- the motto of delusional people
Grandma knew the whole time and ALLOWED it to happen. She should be behind bars as well. If you know something and do nothing, you are just as guilty as the abu53r.
As much as she enabled the abuse, it is the abu53r who is most at fault.
@@camellia8625 They are equally at fault. He abused.. and she wanted it to happen.
She knew
She definitely knew
She did nothing
She should be jailed
OMG 😱😱 Saying it was rigged?!! Come on lady!!! Six people have come forward .
Grandma and her friend need to get their heads out of the hole they have it buried in.
What a sorry bunch of adults these poor girls had to protect them.
All those girls wanted was grandma to acknowledge what happened to them and say she’s sorry it happened. That’s all they wanted. And it’s so sad she couldn’t do that. Even though we can all tell she knows it’s true.
she is going to die a very lonely bitter death.
This is beyond heartbreaking and disturbing on so many levels 💔 😭
No woman is worthy of the name if she doesn;t believe and move heaven and earth to protect children.. ANY CHILD.
This grandmother does not deserve these granddaughters. She could not satisfy her husband's sexual desires, so she sacrificed her granddaughters. disgusting . Unfortunately, no amount of apologizing and asking for forgiveness will help these gentle souls who have been hurt for the rest of their lives. She is th only one to be blaimed for their abuse .
I disagree. Even acknowledgment of injury goes a long way.
The grandmother knew. She said" if he did, I didn't hear him and he came in ". How could she remember something like that if it didn't happen?
True. Contradictory
These two old ladies are so damn mean
Some people are in your life to serve as an example of how NOT to be. She’s a monster to treat those girls that way.
She seems like the type to eat a dry sandwich and claim she had soup.
What?? 🤣🤣 I've never heard that one before.
@@katcraig7525gaslighting at its finest.
Swearing blind that a particular thing happened, which you know didn't; or somehow didn't happen which you know did - *with the intention* of making the other person question their own judgment.
Just Delusional 😂
If Brenda had a bad experience; then why did she leave her kids with that pervert??
Grooming runs deep, it's meant to obfuscate and confuse.
Sadly, One of the biggest reasons why children don't tell anyone they're molested, especially if it's by a family member, is being afraid no one will believe them.
The friend of grandma shouldn't be onstage, especially when she wasn't in the picture when the two poor sisters were molested, adding fuel to the fire on hear-say, talking nonsense.
This grandmother and her "friend" are both monsters. End of story. Shame on them. They are JUST as evil as the perpetrator.
Right? The friend is the worst! Being sarcastic and "reminding" the grandmother of things that were said or helping her to fill in the gaps of her own memory - why would you run to the side of a woman who calls her own grandchildren liars and goes along with this all to say the whole trial was rigged? You people are not important enough to set up - this isn't the trial of the century, this is unfortunately family molestation that he was convicted of. A grand jury saw the evidence and considered it probable cause to go to trial, the jury decided it after weighing all of the evidence - evidence I bet they STILL don't know all of and these two wrinkled prunes just self-righteously sit there looking smug like they know everything. When the grandmother said her husband was "in-fa-tint" I just shook my head. Molesters or rapists for that matter don't always use their genitals, it's about power and manipulation but these two old bats don't know enough about seemingly anything to get that.
These two older ladies are so ignorant, so insulting, so cruel, so absolutely closed minded. One day they may wake up and let the pain of the truth seep in, but they are currently frozen in their prison of self-righteousness.
The grandma doesn't want to be held accountable for her actions and she knows she is wrong in every which way you could possibly imagine😢
As crazy as it sounds one of the biggest problems on this show is the sister-in-law in the audience with the pink shirt and brown jacket. I feel like she is not a very good human being. She should be talking to the grandmother and getting her into a better place instead of starting a fire all the time with anger. There was so much anger coming out of her seat. It's funny that the rest of the entire world sees this obvious problem with this man but these two women are completely oblivious. The sister-in-law is not a good person.
I was thinking just that. My mother had several sister in laws and she was close to most of them. I know for a fact if this happened in our family she would have intervened and made the denier see sense.. and the men would have taken action too had something like this happened and been known about.
I just had to stop the video because she started yelling about the girl being a liar. I’m going to go back and finish it, but these women are so absolutely horrible, It’s so hard to watch. Heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time.
I suspect they are acting oblivious to save face and save their conscience rather than very unpalatably admit to their failure to protect.
also ..income has a lot to do with it.. shamefully.
Why did the Mom even let her children visit this man (Grandfather)?
This is the reason why so many child victims don’t want to come forward because they are afraid they won’t be believed and that members of their families will accuse them of not telling the truth. I envy all victims who were not afraid to come forward because I was a child victim and unfortunately I never had the courage to tell anyone until I was much older and it was still swept under the rug. Some families just can’t accept the truth.
Grandmother friend needs to go away.
When the mom started yelling at grandma I was so proud of her. That's a good mom right there, unlike Peggy.
The way peggy said Ashley was bone chilling like pure demonic
Poor girl i feel sad for her ❤
Grandma did not want to admit she knew because that would make her just as guilty as the grandpa. She knows, she's in denial because of the shame and embarrassment she would feel admitting it.
Sister is worst than the Grandma.
Definitely, I can kind of get Peggy's denial cos that then means she was so wrong about the man she loved. What's the sister got to lose???
@@michelleliddle3488 Maybe she was molested by the creep as well and is in total denial.
And HOW does she know her daughters weren't harmed? As if they could tell that woman?
Sharon, what an angry ,bitter hard Woman you are!! WHY IS that. These Girls speak the truth. You know nothing about truth, sadly. May the LORD Touch your stoned heart✨🙌🏼✝️
@@sheilamadonia-maberry9701 The thing is, they made have said something and were called liars. We don't know that, but this happens more often than not. You don't want to believe that your husband would even think of doing this much less doing it. Having said that, this woman doesn't want to believe it because then she would have to do something about it. It could be for financial reasons, or just not wanting to deal with issues of any kind. I believe she knows it happened and just doesn't want to deal with it. If she denies it, she doesn't have a need to do anything
Dr. Phil is the most patient man. He can get a person that denies and denies until they get caught in that denial.
That one woman looks like Jerry Springer
Yes…😂
Don’t bring Springer into this. He don’t need his image desecrated by that POS
😂😂😂
Omg I see it 😂😂😂
Something very similar happened to me. My nan wasn’t as aggressive as this woman but she sided with him. My grandfather was also an alcoholic. I did ask for money and I’m not ashamed of it. I preferred it over retraumatising myself going to the police. My trauma was so bad I couldn’t hold a job for years and then couldn’t afford therapy! I didn’t get the money so I went through the courts and got granted compensation for medical bills. I’m in Australia so we have a very well funded victims of crime process so I’m very lucky. It was life changing money! It wasn’t much but it meant I could get intensive trauma therapy and now I’m in a successful job and doing postgrad study. Don’t stop fighting for what you deserve and support to heal. There is happiness on the other side with the right support.
Well done, I to survived CSA. It takes so much effort to come through the other side to a place of peace. It is so damaging when you are not believed on top of all the trauma, it’s terrible. Take care,❤.
I have an idea that this grandma herself hits the botlle
Two Karen's vs 3 victims sounds very unethical.
Why is the grandma defending her disgusting husband???
Why would these young girls lie??
God, what a scary grandma...
Totally f***ed up.
Dr. Phil is a hero. Only he could empower those poor girls in the face of such sick family/friends.
Dr Phil is a pos that exploits people and doesn't take accountability when he sends children to a place that abuses and murders ppl
Someone please inform grandma that the viagra was because she couldn't get him up because she wasn't 7 years old
Infadint? It would be funny, if it wasn’t so disturbing.
Um yeah he wanted prepubescent bodies and grandma WAS MENOPAUSAL
Their grandma is not a loving person😔😔
They should break off their relationship with her - they’d be better off without her
She clearly doesn’t love you 😭😭😭😭
Ladies get help and move on !! You are much better than your grandma
Sorry you went through this as a child
Love yourselves and distance yourselves immediately
I find Grandma despicable ..
Her: "You know I'm done"
Someone in the Audience: "Good!"
I'm with you brother. My patience is running thin with her-
This same thing happened to a friend of mine. After her farther would SA her, her mother would pray for her to be ok. When my friend told her best friend she told her mother and they called the police. Charges were filed and my friends mother testified against her when she saw and knew it was happening. She is more angry with her mother for doing that than she is for her father SA'ing her over and over. If I knew for a second that anyone touched my kids or grandkids you would see a Tasmanian devil come out of me protecting them and putting the piece of garbage in jail. 🌪
How were these girls let down so bad by every adult in their lives. At the very least everyone knew he was a pervert towards children and did nothing to step in and stop him.
"IFADENT", I just spit out my coffee.
I could almost hear a banjo playing when she said that! Lord, have mercy.
You are not alone 😂
I don't know how Dr. Phil held it together.
Grandmother turned it onto her, abuse on to herself. Narcissistic
There were women in my family that treated the younger girls like this. They must have despised themselves to treat us that way. I can only imagine where they learned that level of bitter hatred.
The grandmother is just as bad as the pervert..
The grandmother will never admit or apologize shes just not going to period
That grandmother would be one you can watch in a thriller.
If I was the mom of those two I would forbid any contact with that grandmother. She can’t undo what was said.
"It took her 7 years to say RAPE. It's been 7 years since he's been in jail for. We're here, in another 7 years, what's she (Ashley) going to want" - The Grandmother
"The answers that I desperately need from you as a mother and sister and Grandmother is the TRUTH." - Me
Yea I was adopted and my older brother in the house used to make me do things to him till one day he just stopped I've never been brave enough to tell anyone not even my counselor it's hard to open up about being sexually abused when you're a kid especially when you think none will believe you he's dead now an when I found out I was so relieved I know it's bad to be happy someone who's done died an they're supposed to be family but I didn't shed a tear
I'm sorry that happened to you.
Oh Grandma you knew and didn't want to take responsibility.
"Grandma" and that other suspiciously masculine woman are the worst kind of "family" members any child could possibly get stuck with.
Narcissistic amnesia
This is my mother. Except, she was willing to trade me for money and status. Then denied it.
People like this grandmother are not capable of the lightbulb ever going on 🤬 she doesn’t have the ability to live in reality 🤦🏼♀️
This happens every day, sadly. Families often blame the victim and sweep it under the rug.
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt! 😳😳
Those women are so sick.
He got 255 years for a reason. If you ask me anyone who's supported him deserves to be in prison too. These women were not lying. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
Sadly, many survivors of Childhood SA want validation from those who should have known what was happening to them and should have been protecting them from the monsters! It’s nearly drove me crazy (literally) trying to get that validation, until one day I came to the conscious decision that I was never going to get it and decided that was NOT my burden to bare!! That was on the one who should have protected me! I was the innocent child and I would love and nuture myself !! My mental health improved dramatically! The one thing thing I learned about scars, is that means the wound is no longer open and festering…if the wounds are scarred it means they’re healed
Bless your heart
The Granny just give those girls a big gift by saying she are done with them, because she is toxic for their recovery.
For this wife. This mother. This grandmother to even allow a ‘maybe’ would devastate her. Her entire reality of her marriage. Her motherhood. Her grandmother hood is on the line here and she’s like a dog w a bone! For her to be so entrenched in her position that she cannot even allow a ‘maybe’. A ‘what if’ speaks to me of an entrenched mindset of denial that been curated over decades. If anyone could pierce thru this it would be Dr Phil. A very wise educated highly skilled human being who has dedicated his life to helping people. Last opinion I think this grandmother will take the truth of her husband’s sins to her grave. Why? Because she’s made it all about her. Not those girls.
Grandma is guilty as charged...thats why she ran away! I was molested by my older brother from 7 to 16! Only 3 people new! Not even the Dr knew! I no longer have anything to do with that side of the family thankgod!
Your doing THE RIGHT THING 💯 I NO longer have contact with my bio family because they never protected me either my moms even got mad saying " your the reason I can't have friends "( after reporting to her tht once again a husband of her friend had touched me) no I won't see my moms til she is on hospice or in a casket
Thank you mom for believing me when I told on my abuser. To my abusers step daughter.. I’m sorry you couldn’t go to your mom and if you did… I’m sorry she didn’t step up. If you ever want to speak your truth.. I will absolutely be there.
Fact: Those girls are solid, stable, and their minds remained focused even as emotions and the audience went wild. You don't gain that ability by backing lies, as evidenced by gma's flights. You gain that fortitude by facing the darkness and building yourself back despite other's doubt and naysaying.
Regardless, a grown man with his hands on a girl's legs is inappropriate no matter what occasion. Even firefighters and EMS will apologize and make boundaries clear after rescue if they had to save a life by getting private. And anyone who doesn't have anything to feel ashamed of would denounce and apologize for any part they had in such misconduct.
If she knew this was happening to those innocent little girls, she's as big of a pervert as he is.
I am just horrified at that evil grandmother!! She actually knew what was going on, but has denied it? My God, I hate her, & her husband had viagra??????? What in the world is going on?
Lie detector test NOW
She did not apologize for anything. Evil human
These poor girls that were molested need to understand that they will never get what they want from their grandmother. They are wanting her to acknowledge what happened to them and feel sorry for her part in it. But the type of person that allows that to happen in the first place is not a good person. She's twisted and sick, just like the molester. So she's never going to feel sorry because she's broken. She's not normal. I hope they can find peace without her apology.
He was impotent?
Nah. He just already had his fun and didnt want to do anything with her
Horrid grandma!
When my daughter told me, as a adult, that she was molested and who. I just about lost it. I apologized to her multiple times. Not only for not knowing but also for her not being able to tell me at the time. Both men were dead when she finally told me.
This should've been done without an audience.
One more thing is never take a man or woman over family especially ur grandchildren.
Why do they even want this creature in their lives?!
Grandmother knew in her heart he was molesting her granddaughters. Unfortunately the era of the grandmother age puts her in the age of society "keep your dirty laundry at home!" No one talked about sexual abuses when grandma was growing up.
I grew up in the late 60/70's ect. I had two very touchy uncles they were my mom's two sister's (my aunts) husbands. My mother, my older brothers and sisters would tell us younger siblings to stay away from these two uncles. They would tell us not to get close to them and not allow them to get close to us either. One day my mom and older sisters were out grocery shopping and my uncle perverted George stopped by our house. I answered the door told him my mom and sisters were not home that pervert chased me around the house and as i ran outside my family pulled in the driveway. I ran to my mom and told her what uncle George did she kicked him out of our house and called her sister, my aunt. The whole family knew what these two uncles were like, but that time people did not talk about molesters and molestations. If it happened today these two uncles would have been in jail.
Oh my goodness what an awful woman. I would go to the ends of the Earth to protect my grandchildren.. Although I do think
her attitude comes from actually knowing the harm her so called husband did. She knows her granddaughter is right and she doesn't know how to process the guilt, so she's lashing out. I sincerely hope grandmother had some counselling of. Her bitterness will eat her up.
"Denial", aint that a river in Egypt? says the grandma. DISGUSTING!
If you hear the grandmother how she pitched her voice she is in such denial and she's trying to do whatever she can so she can get her husband back
Grandma's apology was empty and defensive
The grandmother is a horrible person and so is Sharon. Both of them will have to answer for their behavior one day.
Why did he get all those years in prison if he hadn't committed those sexual assaults on kids?! The jury thought so!!
Monsters will always defend other Monsters
The anger in that woman!
One day when she wakes up alone and is a vulnerable adult and is being abused then maybew it will get through to her. Until then may God have mercy on her soul.
I remember the first time I saw this. I was furious. I always wonder what became of the guests on these old shows. Is there any way to find out?
These two old bats should be arrested.