What the hell happened in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance!?
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:06:00 - QUICK Recap of Metal Gear Solid
00:19:12 - Mr Lightning Bolt
00:40:27 - Mistress Mistral
01:00:16 - Mexico bby
01:15:37 - The Memes
01:33:37 - Sundowner bby
01:44:37 - I need your bike
01:47:32 - Son of Sam
02:04:48 - Nanomachines, Son
PART 1 - KINGDOM HEARTS 1
• What the hell happened...
PART 2 - KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN OF MEMORIES
• Kingdom Hearts: Chain ...
PART 3 - KINGDOM HEARTS 2 & RE:CODED
• Kingdom Hearts 2 - Sto...
PART 4 - KINGDOM HEARTS: 358/2 DAYS
• Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 ...
PART 5 - KINGDOM HEARTS: BIRTH BY SLEEP
• Kingdom Hearts: Birth ...
PART 6 - KINGDOM HEARTS: DREAM DROP DISTANCE
• Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dre...
PART 7 - KINGDOM HEARTS: BACK COVER & FRAGMENTARY PASSAGE
this video • Kingdom Hearts: Back C...
PART 8 - KINGDOM HEARTS 3 - PART 1
• Kingdom Hearts 3 (Part...
PART 9 - KINGDOM HEARTS 3 - PART 2
• Kingdom Hearts 3 (Part...
PART 10 - KINGDOM HEARTS: UNION X
• Kingdom Hearts: Union ...
PART 11 - KINGDOM HEARTS: DARK ROAD
• Kingdom Hearts: Dark R...
PART 12 - KINGDOM HEARTS: RE:MIND
• Kingdom Hearts: Re:Min...
PART 13 - KINGDOM HEARTS: MELODY OF MEMORY
• Kingdom Hearts: Melody... - Hry
Thanks for being here! We were nervous about moving this series over to its own channel and the feedback has been really awesome. In case you missed the announcement on Twitter ( twitter.com/PodcastDump ) - we've tried to schedule the year so a new episode will be out every month.
See you in February!!
The Mexico scene of "oh, don't worry... I'll blend riiiight in" *cut to Raiden, wearing a sombrero and a poncho but still very clearly a cyborg ninja underneath* is one of my favorite moments of all time
The follow up "A mariachi?" Just raise a so many questions
Monty: "Memes! The DNA of the soul!"
Chase: (screams in actual fear)
Standing here, I realize Monty is just like Chase trying to explain game history. But who's to judge the logical from the illogical when your brain's shut down, I think you both believe that plotholes breed plotholes, but in the end, it has to be this way
Beautiful 🥲
Wonderful ❤
Small little correction: Raiden tells Dolzaev that Mistral isn't talking to him because she isn't. She was referring to Armstrong, Dolzaev just happened to be listening in.
Im very glad someone pointed this out it's actually fascinating how different people can see the same scene
2:35:00 Chase in Terra's voice "One day... I will make things right."
In case someone hasn't already mentioned it, "mach" is roughly equivalent to the speed of sound which is about 700 mph (~1130 kph) so mach 23 is roughly 16000 mph (~25900 kph). For reference, the speed needed to break earth's gravity in a rocket is close to mach 20. I think the US Air Force claimed their Aurora stealth fighter could do like mach 13, New York to San Fransisco in about 30 minutes.
Holy shit MGR Revengeance is deep? I had literally no idea that it was this level of satire of the American Military Industrial Complex.
It's honestly hilarious how MGR: Revengeance is arguably the most ahead of its time game in this franchise especially with the level of memetic appeal it has (in both senses of the word)
I knew about the memes that spawned from this game, but actually hearing from Monty (and the rest of the awesome gang reacting) how it plays out and the literal insane dialogue makes me actively wanna experience this in real time. I beg for them to be working on a sequel.
Never happening unfortunatley
I love this stuff. Like the KH stuff the incredulity of the two not telling the lore, along with the excitement of the one telling it really is magic. I can't wait for Neil to get his turn.
Came for the Kingdom Hearts, stayed for the MEMES J A C K
The fact that I was bingeing Monty's videos and decided to check in on lore dumb and see nothing new just a few minutes before this video dropped just goes to show how hooked I am now
As a Hispanic let me tell you this I wore the pancho and sombrero throughout the game once you unlock it
It’s the best
And plunge us in the flames; or from above
Should intermitted vengeance arm again
His red right hand to plague us?
Paradise lost by John Milton
Last year I had laser eye surgery and couldn't look at screens for at least some days while I recovered. Lore Dump was my company during that week and while I had been following before, ever since that I'm pretty sure I listen to the whole backlog at least once every 2 months. I'm so glad to see a new episode and can't wait for what comes next.
I have to thank you Monty for showing me this gem. After listening to this I finally got myself a copy of Revengeance and played the first section of the game. And boy had I a blast. With this episode in the back of my head it was even more fun. And to be honest... you were so right. Fighting the Metal Gear with the Metal-Song, slicing everything is just pure joy. THANK YOU
I for one would adore a Yakuza Lore Dump!
I was listening to this at work with my wireless headphones, and of course I heard at 1:54:00 when Monsoon says "Cut off one head and ten more grow back, and hey!, that's like 'Low Battery'" when my headphones ran out of power at the perfect time
This game is such insane, wild, fun.
My favorite element of the game were the additional costumes especially the cyborg ninja from MGS1 and the sombrero poncho combo
As someone who had my first true foray into Metal Gear through Lore Dump, this answers a very important question of mine: Just a few weeks ago I was watching a video essay about MGS2, heard Raiden's voice for the very first time, and immediately thought, "AXEL?!?!?! HE'S AXEL!!!!! DOES CHASE KNOW???" But didn't want to be a weirdo and ask. Turns out I didn't need to XD
Anyhow, this game is absolutely bonkers ridiculous in all the best kinds of ways and I'm so happy you guys covered it. Thank you for another fantastic video!!!
I think, we need a mini lore dump on Vanquish now, after MGR it could get insanely good.
Also the replaced cybernetic eye is his right, and if I REmember correctly the eyepatch is filled with sensors, like in Nier Automata.
Poor Dolzayev (sp?). He thinks Mistral is confessing her love to him when she's actually talking about Armstrong. And then Raiden calls him a dumbass to add insult to injury.
Just want to elaborate on the setting of Abkhazia. It's actually a real country, depending on who you ask, as it serves as a Russian puppet state that broke away from Georgia after the 2008 Russo-Georgian war. It's only recognized by 5 other countries and is seen by many other countries to be a thinly veiled excuse for Russian Imperialism. The conflict around this has been ongoing from the dissolution of the Soviet Union and is still unresolved, though currently on hold due to a seize fire and the Ukraine war,
Love your lore dumbs and all of the great storys you tell and all the funny comments.
Props to your "Ich liebe Kapitalismus." From Doktor! This was great German!
Dear Monty,
are you considering to fullfill the promise you made in the second episode of the MGS Lore Dump anytime soon? I just cant wait for you to explain Chase how deep the lore of Death Stranding actually is. Also great content mate, keep it up!
It WILL happen! Just not this year. Chase has recently started playing it (he’s very early and I don’t think he’ll get far) but even if he does beat it, Neil hasn’t played it at all and isn’t going to. So one to think about in 2024 if Kingdom Hearts doesn’t take over!
Thank you so much for the response. Thats so nice to hear.
YESSSSSS! I've been wait for this and it's here, thank you guys for this.
A Yakuza Lore Dump would be brilliant but also a massive undertaking so I completely understand being unnerved by it but it would be dope.
A Devil May Cry Lore Dump would alse be amazing.
This is good and all, but I feel like some extra details would clear up something of the stuff here, like the fact sam's sword was indefinitely sheathed and probably wouldn't even work if it managed to come out before it being unlocked. The fact that raidens sword isn't just a sword, but is a high frequency blade that forces things apart on a molecular level, and sam's sword while deactivated would probably just suck.
I’m so excited for Neil’s first lore dump!
Thank you! It'll probably be a total carcrash but that'll probably be fun!
@@LoreDump you got this!! I know you’ll do your best!
Know very little about the metal gear franchise and even less about this game, but you guys made me laugh. Thank you for that. You made the entirety of this two and half hour video very entertaining. I think one of my favourite things said was the 'adult cloud stick' 😂
Happy to see y’all uploading again, looking forward to the uploads this year!
So there I was, planning to casually watch Monty's new video on Batman throughout the week when BAM! A new Lore Dump video emerges. Now, here I am bingeing the first Lore Dump of the new year.
Life never goes how you expect but all roads lead home. Missed you guys!
"Honey, it's time for your 2.5 hour long Lore Dump video!"
"Yes dear."
So excited y'all are back, bro! Let's go!!
What timing lol I just finished relistening to the kh Lore Dumps and was like I wonder when they will do the next one.. what a treat! im sick today and I'm gonna listen to this while I rest! Thanks again Chonteal yall are great.
As I'm at work I just wanna say how much you guys made me laugh thus far(I'm at Mr. Lightning Bolt rn) and look very much forward to your other videos in the future. Well done guys, now i must be off to continue this entertaining watch
I enjoyed listening to this so much, your re-enactment is spot-on and the discussion around the plot is wonderful. Awesome podcast!
Also, none of these are exosuits, except for Sam. Many of the main characters and all the major and minor enemies in this game are cyborgs with mechanical bodies. Raiden himself is just a head from the upper jaw up.
The best part of this game is the soundtrack. The game itself is purely balls to the wall lunacy, but its sooo fun. Its like the Michael Bay Transformers or the Zach Snyder's Sucker Punch of video games.
I was just checking yesterday to see if you guys made another!! So happy to see this
before I get started, hope the boys had a great holiday season. perfect stuff to listen to at work
I'd like to not that raidens eye glow red everytime he gains eletro lights, and it briefly glew red when he blade wolf attacked. Then again Raidens eyes has too different types of glows one being his iris, and the other being his pupil
Yay, more Lore Dump! I like what’s lined up for the future. I hope you guys also consider the Nier games. Really crazy story, although I know that someone has to have not played them for it to work
Lore dump has been my "white noise machine " for sleeping the past few months, i don't know if your annalitics shows it but if you were wonder why some from NZ keeps watching the same videos and now I get to add this to the rotation after I watched it :) can't wait for the rest of the 2023 dumps !
This was a FABULOUS thing to wake up to!
So, so glad to see you lads back at it, you’ve got excellent, cozy vibes which I appreciate greatly. :)
The boys are back for a new year! Been really looking forward to this!
I haven't had a chance to watch yet, and it might take me a couple of days, but I'm so stoked about this I had to drop a comment just to say thanks!!! I was so sad when I caught up on all the previous Lore Dumps, can't wait to binge this one too :D
aw Neil, my dopamine machine is broken too. But at 42 I promise you aren't level capped. You might have to respecc a few times (or a lot) and it gets really grindy and weird after 30, but there are more levels, more skills and more dopamine hits coming for you.
Just finished. This was one of your funniest and best lore dump eps yet!
I Can't wait for your guys next Lore Dump
Thanks For this great video!
I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but it seems like a missed opportunity to mention that the fluid being extracted are electrolytes, which is something people consider synonymous with Gatorade, or that it's doktor who wants Raiden to cut off their arms.
P.S: I'm pretty sure the eye patch is supposed to be a low time constraint cybernetic enhancement, which I'm sure is just their excuse for giving him a cool eye patch
The funniest thing to me is that you have a year of lore dumps planned out and by the end kingdom hearts will still be like half of them.
Nice, I was just thinking about this series. Happy New Year!
The day you guys do a Yakuza lore dump is the day my life is complete.
Haven't started but I'm so excited for this
🎵RULES OF NATURE!! 🎵🎶🎵
Everyone loves to mock the word "revengeance", but it's been a word since at least 1913.
Disappointed you didn't mention ninja cats and Raiden catching knives with his heels xD
great video as ever!!!
This was a great lore dump. I played it for once years ago and loved it, and this made me want to replay it. Having never played Alan wake I’m hype for Februarys episode. Also Chase, play more of Death Stranding, Neil play more kingdom hearts. Both are excellent games. “The American Meme” should totally be a thing as well as Adult Cloud Stick. Can’t wait til the next one. Until then this adult juice is for you. Cheers boys
And finally, he does answer Boris.
"I've got my own war to fight."
Love the content, again
Woooooooooo baby this is what I've been waiting for. The boys are back in town
You guys 🥺🥺🥺🥺 I've missed you so much. I'm still in the ad and I feel like I'm about to cry 😭😂
Chase needs to change his name to Chay-os, because my mans energy is so beautiful chaotic 😂😂 The amount of derailing in this is so much fun. I had toget on a flight to Iowa on Tuesday and ive still listened to this like 4-5 times already. Keep up the beautiful work, cannot wait for ---- ----!!🙏🏼
Just done with the KH rewatch. Honestly, was hoping for a The wolrd Ends With You Video, but I guess it was about time for a writter rotation. On to the Cyborgs we go.
I've enabled notifications now, but God CZcams let me forget about Lore Dump and I'm upset about it. Can't wait to catch up on what I missed, hope you guys are well!
I am so happy the boys are back 💜
I was in the middle of rebingeing the Kingdom Hearts Lore Dumps when I saw this pop up on my feed, and immediately beelined here.
LOVe this. would love a dmc or yakuza lore dump if you guys are interested in those series!!!
Yaaay, more Lore Dump!
Neil saying he is level capped at 28,
Me, 27 “well I guess I have one more perk choice left” 🤷🏻♂️
It’s OK Neil my dopamine circuit is busted too.
They’re back!!!
For the record; the eye patch bandana is a fancy visor ala nier automa
Late to the party due to a hectic week but I'm gonna be one of those here for every one. Cheers lads y'all gonna be a staple.
GREAT way to start off my day. Thanks, gents!
VERY much enjoy this style of video more for this channel. The "Chase" style over the "wikipedia" style.
Rules of nature baby!
Also, I just got my D&D DM hooked on the Kingdom Hearts Lore Dumps, and he thanked me for introducing him to something that helped him understand Kingdom Hearts not at all, but that instead made him want to be friends with three (occasionally) drunken nerds in Scotland. XD
Made me giggle, so I figured I’d pass it on to you.
Excellent work, as usual, Lore Lads!! Thanks for brightening my day :)
George sprinkles in Guyanese Creole in his dialogue, as that's where he's from.
So, a quick skim through the comments suggests nobody else has touched on this, and I think that a slightly greater exploration of the idea of the original idea of the meme is warranted. (I'll come back and edit this out if it turns out that you do touch on it later in the video, this is written as of the beginning of the Monsoon bit.)
I was originally exposed to the current (or, well, early-2000s-incarnation of the current) and original definition of 'meme' contemporaneously, and found the whole idea fascinating - and while it's kind of been discredited as a theory (as in, an explanatory and predictive framework), I think the meme as a concept is a really cool explanatory analogy.
Basically, the idea of the word 'meme' was chosen to create an analogue to the word 'gene' - what genes are to biology, the concept goes, memes are to culture - each are, effectively, the fundamental unit of *propagated* information. See, in biological systems, information is coded in DNA, yes, but a single DNA base pair in isolation is meaningless, arguably even more than a single letter is. It's only when they're assembled in sequence (and 'read' by the transcriptional/translational machinery of the cell) that they become meaningful, when they are 'expressed' in the form of an amino acid chain whose sequence is dictated by the DNA sequence consulted in its creation (i.e., a protein, aka the primary functional apparatus of the cell). The thing is, though, that while the protein is the version of that information in practice, it's not actually the version that gets *propagated* from organism to organism (i.e. through reproduction) - that's the informational molecule, the DNA. And it's these genes, and the efficacy of their protein products (and the specific variations thereof that individual organisms carry) that are 'selected' for or against by the constraints of the environment (through either surviving or not surviving to reproduce).Through many generations of this, a population of organisms would change its overall gene composition at a population scale, to reflect that the organisms better adapted to that environment reproduced more often than those that didn't.
Dawkins' idea, then, was that, if one postulated a unit of *cultural* propagation, analogous to a gene, one could think of cultures as analogues to populations in population genetics. Such environments would be subject to different selective pressures as well, and the units of cultural information that were best suited to such environments would be transmitted/reproduced more often within this cultural population than those that weren't. Also like genes, these units of cultural information were not immutable things, but were subject to propagation with modification, with the rate of modification (presumably) being subject to control based on the nature of the propagated unit in question and also the selective environment (much as in nature).
For my part, I especially like the whole analogy between gene and its corresponding protein and a meme (in writing or whatever else) and what the individual who receives that meme interprets it to mean. (For example, one can write the same word - e.g. 'elf' - and provoke quite different images in the mind of the reader, depending on what time of year it is (Christmas elves?), what media properties were most formative for them (LoTR elves? D&D elves? Warcraft elves? D&D elves, but Japanese (i.e. by way of Record of Lodoss War)?), etc. Heck, there's even a story about how elves in Japanese media acquired the look they did, which relies heavily on concepts of population genetics, because as far as I can tell the explanatory logic genuinely does work the exact same way!
...yeah, maybe I like the analogy more than I ought to, but I think that at the least it's an interesting thing to think about. Hopefully this does more good than harm in understanding it.
I loved when I watched the speed run of this during SGDQ (I think?) This is such a wild game.
I'm so hyped
Welcome back boys. Here’s to a great 2023.
Here we go
1:35:25 Shushing in an accent?
Immediate favourite video
Although I do think this game is smart, it is also very concerning to me how much it resonates with the alt right. I think to them the game ends after the fight with Armstrong because he has passed on the ultimate meme to Raiden "might makes right". Whatever Raiden does with it is irrelevant at that point because the game makes it feel inevitable. Its like a natural law, and thats all they take away from it.
I’m so glad that you guys are back!!
This is great.
Naomi's last name is Hunter, as in Jaeger, as in Frank Jaeger, Grey Fox.
Sorry for so many comments, i dont mean t be a pedant, just a huge fan of Metal Gear. Love the content from you!
I’m so glad to hear more of Neil without having to listen to the kingdom hearts playlist for the 10th time.
Idk how much effort you put into the visuals cuz this is like a podcast, but would it be possible to include animated gifs alongside the screenshots. I'm sure it could help explain some scenes better/provide context and won't take the same effort as rendering full videos.
Edit: For example at 29:15 having a gif of blademode rather than a screenshot would save alot of explaining for how to visualise it working.
"MEME'S ARE STORED IN THE SOUL"
*an edgy anime boy*
Amazing Lore Dump as always, if possible mention the DOOMP just to get their reactions mwahahaha
The Yakuza lore dump would be awesome
You got alot right, as usual Monty, but you missed a few things. However, that might be a me thing. When Mistral spoke her final words, she was referring to Armstrong despite him not hearing the call. When Armstrong was talking about what reasons people would fight for in his "New America," he meant that if someone wanted to go to war/fight over something, it would be for that person's beliefs, and nothing else. Not for any reason that someone else gave them, just their own. And Armstrong's final words, why did you cut off what he said after proclaiming Jack as his inheritor, but before him saying that they were kindred spirits? I honestly have no idea why you did that. Same goes for Raiden/Jack's final words of the game. He has his own war to fight
Despite saying all of this, I've enjoyed your lore dump, like normal, but it falls a little short to me this time around. Keep up the work though
Resident evil I found this during those videos I think it was multiple it felt like multiple and the other metal gear games it took an entire day to get through both. It took a week of work to get through the kingdom hearts videos tho.
You can also call characters on the CODEC to about metal gear excelsus, which doesnt carry nukes, making it a "Metal Gear" in name only. Like the game.
48:17 Abkhazia *IS* a real state, 1 of 2 breakaway states from Georgia that was created by the Russian invasion of 2008.
Chase blame Yourself for this:
Yakuza chronological lore dump WHEN?!
As someone with a katana fetish, I agree with Monty. Guns are wack, Swords are all the way.
30:43 best laugh ever
Bought this on launch day. Still have the limited art book 😂
Now...I am not sure what the next lore dump could have been. The tease just wasn't clear enough. Going to have to rewatch and listen a bit closer this time.
Thank you guys for all your dedication for these videos, they are amazing!
Amazing video as always! So we know Neil’s doing Red Dead Redemption seemingly but would you be willing to reveal who will be doing each one throughout the year or do you want that to be a surprise?
No secrets here! Chase is taking a year off - life stuff means he can’t commit time to researching/compiling notes. So I’ll be leading the Remedyverse ones and the Bioshock ones (my bread and butter) and Neil will cover the Red Dead games. He wanted to dip his toe in the water and he’s the biggest Red Dead fan in the world!
OH and we’ve tried to plan the year so there will be monthly releases (fingers crossed!)
Son of sam, I see what you did there