Ranking 21 American Made Boot Brands from WORST to BEST
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0:00 Introducing Camel City Mill Socks
1:10 Disclaimer
1:48 21st
2:09 20th
2:27 19th (tie)
2:53 17th
3:13 16th
3:38 15th
3:58 14th
4:35 13th
5:04 12th
5:32 11th
6:26 10th
6:58 9th
7:20 8th
7:50 7th
8:15 6th
8:35 5th
8:58 4th
9:25 3rd
10:04 2nd
10:32 1st
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"Probably the toughest, most sturdy boot I've ever put on my foot". Love it! I'd take that over the #1 spot 👍
I'd choose Nick's over a Redwing any day. Oh you meant the compliment. But know what goes into both the iron ranger and a few pairs of Nick's now, I know that tho yr boots might be $300 more than a pair of Redwing IR, the materials, craftsmanship, actual leather heel stack, the list goes on, it's definitely a better boot. Basically, like my buddy Weston says, more leather is more better.
@@JoeyDecay Nick’s are great boots I have a couple pairs .. the Americana boots are my favorite
@@yankeesfanforlife506 well I hope to own a pair one day. I'm a sheetmetal worker so I'm not sure what I'd get. I don't need anything over the top. Their moc-toes look nice and I typically go with a wedge but who knows. I gotta get back to work first tho... always slow around the holidays, unless yr locked into a long-term job. Might travel.
Tough and sturdy are important. Other nuances can make a big difference when it comes to everyday wear
Nick’s boots are in a class by themselves 👍🏼
Having grown up wearing steel toed Red Wing work boots for highway construction, I found myself in need of new boots for hunting a few years back and bought a pair of Red Wing Super Sole 2.0 work boots. After my hunting trip I put them in the back of my closet and forgot about them for at least three years. But about 8-9 months ago I pulled them back out and put them on again (mostly from curiosity to be honest)and have worn them nearly every day since. I've never worn a more comfortable pair of boots in my life. I expected you to put Red Wing somewhere in the middle of the pack in your rating. Was completely taken aback when you named them first. But my Red Wings are definitely first on my list. Thanks, BootSpy!
I have never had a good experience with Red Wing boots. They always sucked for me. Everyone is different though.
Very much appreciate this informative video. Especially for people like me who wants to know more about American brands. (Just recently got my Iron Ranger 8111, my first pair of American boots from Amazon JP.)
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I found it informative. Also despite your very clear disclaimer’s regarding this list I’m sure some people are mad at you now 😂😂
AMAZING list and video
My dad wore the same pair of Redwings for as long as I can remember. I bought a pair of Thorogood on a whim, kind of, and they were comfortable the moment I put them on. I also had a pair of Danner Ft. Lewis for 20 years. After 20 years I had them re-soled and fixed up nice - they looked brand-new. Sold them and bought a pair of Nick’s Overlanders. Six month wait and they arrived 7 months ago. Easily worth the wait and the best $500 I’ve ever spent. I’d like to grab a pair of Redwings eventually, but my next purchase will probably be another pair of Nick’s. Simply put - you feel invincible in those things.
Good order of brands, and awesome video…definitely subbing
I just watched you do a factory tour at JK boots. Was very surprised they didn’t make your list, actually as far as quality of boots I was shocked they didn’t make the list?
Red Wings gave this channel money.
your delivery of the content was great.
Always enjoy your videos. Surprised you didn't mention one of your (former?) faves, Thursday, which I don't own, but Red Wings are my faves. We have a Red Wing store dangerously close to my house. Thanks man~
I was looking for Thursday. Have two pair. Love them!!
What about Frank's Boot Company in Spokane, WA showing the owner helping customers himself sizing boot's, why aren't they on your list? I personally don't own a pair, but I have heard only good things about the company and owner giving outstanding customer service!
This!! Think I am on pair #4 with Franks. Frank and Michelle treat you like family. They are at the top of my list along with Wesco.
Great presentation, especially considering you covered 21 different brands. Not a lot of extra yapping, just a quick overview. Excellent video!
Been wearing redwing 2406's for years. Indoors on concrete, sticky sole very comfortable. Nearly everything I want in a boot
I used to wear my Iron Rangers most consistently until I got a pair of Truman oxblood double shot with the cap toe. I love the thickness of the leather and the overall look of these boots.
I got some in black Osmonda recently, they're definitely pretty comfy right out the box
Thought for a minute the Iron Ranger wasn’t going to be on the list. I was pleasantly surprised you put Red Wing Iron Ranger as #1. Truly great boots.
I was driving through and stopped in Spokane for 2 nights. I went to Nick's and the salesman did several measurements of my feet and said my feet are actually extra wide I never knew that. They also gave me a veteran discount. I got my boots in about 4 months. You can send them the boots if they don't feel like the right size and will fix modify it. I also went to a Red Wing store and they did a 3D scan of my feet and had me walk on a floor sensor. They emailed me the results. They then told me the proper size to buy. I bought some that were in stock.
First video of yours I've seen. Why it took so long for your channel to pop up in my recommended list??? Didn't quite understand how you rated a few pairs you don't have but will continue to watch your channel. I definitely like your no BS, straightforward presentation. Yep, I subscribed.
Props to you for actually ranking Nicks, Whites, and Wesco. I think most people would have chickened out and declared a 3 way tie.
that's where it helps to lean on subjectivity 😅
I'm very interested to have my own experience, I have urban loggers that I absolutely love and my first pair of white are shipping out hopefully today or next week.
I'm happy to see wesco rank the best, those are going to be my next pair of uninsulated boots
What about JK?
@@BootSpy soon Numzaan by Jim Green Footwear from South Africa. Construction and Value
I've got at least 25 pairs of various styles of boots. The boot I grab when I don't want to think is the Red Wing Muleskinners. They're just insanely comfy and will last longer than me.
That said, I have some vintage Chippewa and a bunch of Thorogood 1892 which are insanely great too.
Nice thing is we have choices.
Over the last 50 years ( damn, when did I get old ), I have worked in boots daily. For Lace ups in Shop use; Red Wings, - Patrol; Danner, - Outfitting; Wesco. These 3 have given me good service, and have been worth every dime that I have paid for them. Cheapo boots will hurt your feet, hips, knees, and back over time. Do yourself a favor and save money elsewhere. Your feet are your body's foundation, treat them well and wear quality boots. Your whole body will thank you.
I don’t know about old, but that’s straight wisdom there…
Put Alden at the bottom for using cheap materials and having bad qc but charging a premium.
Exactly.
So many of the crying Alden fans are basically admitting to being bent over a barrel without admitting it.
They admit that they'd pay whatever they had to because of the comfortable last, not realizing that that's the point.
I would put thorogood way above Alden, because they are a tool that does their job well.
A work boot you can wear right away, fairly long lasting, and affordable enough.
They prioritize function and reliability at an affordable cost, vs prioritizing premium leather at a hugely inflated cost like Alden does.
justins are shit. my 500$ elephant exotics from them have some sort of plastic piping down the shafts and has cracked. completely unacceptable for a 500$ boot, although i understand the alden indy thing going on too.
@@1hdoilfielddad244 well that's because you payed for the exotic leather.
My conductor lace up boots are a decent enough reliable work boot for just under $200 ( the first pair was $175 a few years ago ) but they are discontinued now or at least the black ones are.
They are very average and on par with most other sub $200 American made work boot, but I wouldn't pay more than $200+ shipping for anything from justin or chippewa.
I really hate the carpet foam shit they use as a filler material instead of cork, I resoled a pair of mine and that shit was a real pain in the ass to remove.
@@TylerSnyder305 right, i paid for exotic leather, not plastic.
@@1hdoilfielddad244 yeah,the exotic leather you got was where most of your money went.
Without the exotic leather they would have probably been $175 and maybe not great but about on par with others for the price.
A budget boot that's good enough for the price, but not spectacular.
That's what justin does, entry level boots.
You did pretty much did get ripped off just as you say, because they were just a budget boot with budget construction in an expensive exotic leather.
The place you bought them may also have been responsible for the high price as well.
Very nicely done. I enjoyed watching your presentation and I learned a few things, in spite of having been in and out of the boot business since the early 1980’s. I am currently the territory manager for one of the boot manufacturers on your list( I’ll leave out the company and the territory), and in years past worked for two others you covered. I have no great objection to our numerical position on your list - it was a reasonably fair assessment, even if not totally accurate. My only question is how you had Whites ahead of Nicks (even with your explanation). Also, it would be hard to argue with the selection of Red Wing as your number one. Their price points for US manufactured boots are $300.00 or more (seems a little elevated to me) and other boots don’t require the break in period Red Wing do. All that aside, they have been the premier American made work boot for “Joe Blue collar” for over a century (with all due respect to Wolverine). I hope they are able to keep making their Heritage line in the USA for another 100 years. Not many US companies are left. It was sad to see Wolverine quit making boots here, then Chippewa shut their last US plant down. Hopefully most of, if not all of the US companies will survive. BTW, I am not employed by Red Wing, Nicks or Whites. My employer is further down your list.
Your editing is on point homie
Really enjoyed this vid. I made the mental selection of Origin...signed up on their site...saw they produce jeans and fighting products. Thanks!
Wesco, Nicks, JK, and Whites deserve to be in the top 4.
Red Wing should really be around #12-13 for quality and price point. To be honest, for their quality, they are a bit overpriced.
Carolina also deserves to be bumped up a few spots. Carolina Birch loggers are way better than everything listed up to about #15. Almost as good as Thorogood.
Totally blown away that you didn't rank Russells boots. I've seen, used an d tried on many including Nick's and Whites and Russell's are a step up for certain!
Same with JK boots. I can't believe he didn't even mention JK
I agree with your comment about Red Wing Sawmills...it wasn't easy for me to find a pair in the US, when I was looking last year...but, I found them on a website of a store in Sweden. They are a solid made boot and great for winter.
yeah, I'm surprised there aren't more and I hope they start up production again in winter
Great Video! Redwing has been my only boot choice for over 20 years!
Danner used to make great hunting boots,but the boots now have no ankle support,but I loved the air bob sole!
I got a pair of Parkhurst last year and absolutely love them. As you mentioned, they have trouble getting things in stock and are a much smaller operation. To combat that, I believe, they have outsourced their construction to Spain so they are no longer a truly made in America boot.
Gosh. Thanks for not making the video overly long. Nicely done. In the future I'd ask to leave up the name of the company/topic you're talking about onscreen while you're still talking about it.
I reach for my Iron Rangers a lot...and might more than my White's once I get them upgraded with a leather mid-sole so they don't feel like sandals. 😅
Shocked Thursday wasn’t on the list at all, considering they have a made in America line.
I agree, but I guess as most of their boots are made in Mexico they don't really qualify. But I think, based on some videos of e.g. Rose Anvil, the US made Line of Thursday sometimes beats the Wolverine quality etc. thus it would bring it roughly up to place 11. Which I think is quite strong for the price point and not being focussed on being a stylish boot instead of being a work boot.
Thursday has better jackets than boots plus made in mexico
I was thinking the same. Especially after watching him rebuild his own pair of Thursday boots on the Wyatt and Dad CZcams channel.
@@Trains-With-Shane Thursdays are made in mexico
Great vid! I love my Nick’s Charley 55’s. 👍🏻
Nice job. I’ve got a couple pair of White’s, packers and a pair of brogans in bullhide leather that are really great. Have you ever taken a deeper dive in western boots?
I have owned 3 pairs of Alden, (2) 403 (1) 405, Red Wing Iron Ranger, Red Wing 875, Wolverine 1000 mile. Red Wing Iron Ranger are absolute beasts and Red Wing, in general, were the best-built of the three brands. Red wing sizing is nuts! The Alden Chromexcel leather is luxurious.
I bought the Red Wing iron rangers on a whim after stopping in a store. This video had me on edge. I was relieved you spoke so highly of them and ranked the Brand number..
Currently trying to find my next work boots, I work in construction and om on my 2nd pair of thorogoods, they're extremely comfortable but my gripe with them is the tread in the soles give out after a year. You can get them resoled but it costs 70% of the price of a new pair
Excellent selection 👌 👏 👍
I wore wolverines for years. A good, waterproof boot that was comfortable. As a laborer in an intermodal yard, all day was walking, climbing up and down on the rail cars. Then I went to get a pair and they were half price. I bought 2 pairs. When I finally went to buy another pair, they were made in china and twice the cost. I switched brands. When did the company come back to the USA?
All great comments, but also wondering where your denim jacket (looks like a good liner also) is from? Thanks for informative video
Great video, thanks! What are your thoughts on Portland Leather? Their welted Brooklyn boot looks really good with classic captoe and 3 leather choices. I heard they are made in Mexico though, but not sure.
I absolutely love my Whites Steven's boots! Fun video
great video! Good, balanced selection. Not much empty blabbing, but straight to the point. Also - right choice for no 1! :D
I own Truman double ox blood and red wing blacksmith i absolutely love em both.
You missed the 5th and 4th best American made boot manufacturers: Yuketen and Rancourt. Great field and dress boots. All the other brands you listed basically produce the same style work/service boot. The materials used by Rancourt and Yuketen are second to none and they actually wear super comfortable due to their construction.
😂 I have a few customs on your top7 am I keep putting the redwings on when I’m running out the door. Glad I’m not the only one 😂
I want a pair of engineer boots. I’ve looked at the White’s online several times. I’ve heard of Wesco but have never really looked into them, they do look really good though. My experience with Red Wing has been really good. I appreciate the fact that they have retail stores all over the country, and maybe overseas too. I like being able to try on the boots before buying them, also the clerk that sold me my Iron Rangers was friendly, knowledgeable, and helpful.
Wesco engineers are the best
loving the Nick"s....what jacket are you wearing? love it
I just bought Red Wing Setters for work and I got tricked in the store by fake stitching. It's glued together, but I haven't broken them in yet and I love how they look, so hopefully they'll still hold up well.
The made in China tag should have been a clue.
@@thenomenclature7243 they're not made in China bud
@@thr0w407 Cambodia, Vietnam and Republic of China. Irish Setter from Red Wing aren't USA made.
@@jeffdemarcus160 yeah Vietnam and China are different places. Mine are made in Vietnam.
@@thr0w407 Republic of China AKA Taiwan. better than China but not USA made.
Thanks for the video, learned a lot here. Now I have new research to do to add to my 8 foot tall stack of work boots.
Wow I was blown away when you said Redwing in first place !!!! Lol
The jacket hes wearing is the Filson Lined Denim Short Cruiser Jacket. It retails for $495. Made in the USA with imported materials
I was getting concerned when I wasn’t hearing redwing on your list but you shocked me when you rated them # 1 😂
Pretty good list. One question: since you listed a couple of bespoke brands, how in the world could you not have Limmer on your list??? They are world renowned in the hiking arena.
Am I the only one who's more interested in that jacket? Lol. Great vid man!
Thanks for the list. Are you gonna share black Friday deals on boots next week? That would be mighty nice of you.
I am - already have a list going at bootspy.com (still needs to be updated with more deals throughout the week) and will be sharing in video-form on Friday morning
oh, and if you sign up for the BootSpy email newsletter, I'll also be sending out deals through email as well. Just hit the "sign up for the newsletter" button in the upper right corner of the BootSpy channel page
Origin big lug work boot are awesome !crazy well made and comfortable out of the box .I’m an electrician of 17 yrs so I put my boots to the test .
I stumbled the other day across JK boots that are also made in Spokane. I'm really interested in their new 300. Hope you do a review of them soon.
I have two pairs of JK boots. I love them. Great customer service too.
21Justin
20 LL Bean
Tie 19 Carolina/chippewa
17Keen
16Frye
15Thorogood
14Allen Edmonds
13 Danner
12 Wolverine
11 Origin
10 Alden
9 Parkhurst
8 Kreosote
7 Role Club (Brian the Bootmaker)
6 Oak Street
5 Truman
4 Nick's
3 White's
2 Wesco
1 Red Wing
Cool video. I keep hearing that I should buy a half size down to a full size down in Red Wings, Iron Rangers 8084 ? I wear a size 13 E, in most shoes & Boots,... I'm wondering if a 12 D would fit me, or if I should go for the 13 D. there are no half sizes available after 12 & I cant find an E wide anywhere. Nicks Boots makes it easier with half sizes and width sizes but they take WAY too long to make & ship. I need a pair of Boots Now. LOL
I have some rough out Chippewa Niles boots just hanging out in my Ebay shop.
Rose Anvil just demolished the Crap Alden boot. Used Wescos all over the Oregon mountain side and woods. Wesco makes boots for fireman and fire season used to be back order time and there was generally a wait period.
I think you should make a distinction between 'dress', or 'casual' boots, or those worn for fashion, and actual work boots. I've worn Redwing mostly for 45 years in construction. My gripe is that so many boots have a deep lug sole, which is terrible for tracking mud indoors. I always got the smooth cork/rubber sole when it was available from Redwing.
Standard and Strange often releases Mr. Lou’s and you have a window of a few days to buy them. I got mine in natural chromexel with no waiting time.
Daaang that Wesco engineer style is classyyyy 😍
For thirty years I wore Westco Job Masters for ranch work, logging, and road construction. I always had two pairs which I alternated daily. Some of my friends liked Whites, but I always thought the Westcos looked better. All to say, I agree with your pick of Westco for number 2, although I've heard nothing good about Redwings for many years.
Red wings can suck a fat one. Most of their shit is made in Asia now. I wore their loggers for ten years and the quality in each pair got worse and worse. And don’t let me get going about their customer service. Last pair of loggers the inside liner was destroyed within six months with holes in the upper as well. Went with thorogoods few months ago and love them. Just ordered a pair of whites on sale to try them out also. Hope I love them as much as my thorogoods
Sounds right. If your Whites don't work out, try Wesco Jobmasters. They're good boots.@@johnsylvester3374
Great list. I was recently buying my first real boot since I bought a pair of Chippewa years ago. I wanted to give Red Wing my money but I can't find my size anywhere so I bought the Grant Stone diesel instead. The Red Wing store did a great job with sizing my foot properly they just didnt have enough stock and no idea when they might get more. Actually Allen Edmonds might be a great choice when on sale hmmm.
Back in the fall I bought a part of Allen Edmonds Higgins Mill online and returned them because of missing stitching. The replacement pair they sent also had stitching issues. I didn't want to try my luck a third time so I got a pair of Grant Stone Diesel Saddle Tan Veg and they've been great. I might try Allen Edmonds again if they have something in the store on sale and I can check them myself before I buy.
I have a pair of lace up Justin boots western. made 1995ish. Super, super comfy.
As a retired lineman, Red Wings were about all I wore. For gaffing and just overall comfort, nothing else came close.
I tried on a pair after being properly fitted and couldn't stand on how big they felt on my feet. It felt like I was wearing clown shoes.
I guess I'm sticking with my Carolina Logger boots. I've owned 3 pair in 30 years (I just purchased the 3rd pair last year, in fact) and for a work boot, working in a warehouse on concrete floors, I find them supportive of my heel and the insole keeps my feet comfortable all day long.
Glad to see they made this list, I just don't agree they're that far down on it. For $210, I think they're damn good.
If you try out a boot that’s designed for concrete work, you won’t ever wear a logger on concrete again. I used to wear logger boots and always wondered why I’d get random back and leg pains. Now I’ve switched to a sneaker style boot and now I’m more comfortable than ever. I really recommend trying something different and seeing what happens.
I have not had good luck with red wing. I do like West Coast and white. Thank you for the List
I have Keen American made boots, and while you think they are ugly, they are comfortable and solidly made.
You should definitely try a pair of Russell Moccasins. The original true moccasin boot for outdoorsmen and the first to complete the Appalachian trail.
Before they were off shored, Chippewa were amazing. Been riding with my Odessa blacks for 10 years.
You should do a ranking video for UK, EURO, and Asia
The disclaimer is totally gentlemanly. Cheers!
Please please do a full Sawmill video like you talked about a while ago ! 🙏
Do you know what happened to the Yankee boot from Woolrich?
The Parkhurst Allen on the 602 last is the best fitting boot I own
Jk definitely belongs on this list somewhere in the top 5 if not top 3
Can't find the Truman boot you show in the review on their website. Any helpful info appreciated
Just bought a pair of Iron Rangers 8111! Thanks William!
Heck yeah!
At 11:39 talking about the Red Wing's, I was actually wanting to know what kind of flooring that is. It looks like repurposed pallets?
4:42 What is that truck? I love it & the boots too, in fact I love American leathergoods and Denimware.
100% agree with you on White’s. They’re ready to ship selection is top grade
@Matt Word brother! Duck feet unite!!! (9-1/2 EEE)
Whites outlast redwing by years. I’m a land surveyor and I’m on my feet in the field all day every day. I have worn mostly Danner, redwing and A few others on your list and they only last 2 years at most Whites last for 5 years easy. They are in my opinion the best boots.
A former Wolverine executive started Liberty Footwear in Grand Rapids, Mi. I have a pair of his boots and the quality is excellent and so is the fit
Gonna try the socks when you get a smaller size! Men's size 5-6 boots or women's 6-7 wide.
No arguments on your list. Good job
Awesome to see a fellow NC native!💪🏼
I like the Thorogood moc toe boots. My old feet appreciate wedge soles and there really is no a break in period. I keep tow pair in rotation and my third is my oldest pair for really crap work or really muddy conditions on a particular day. I work in these. They go on in the morning, come off in the evening. One pair is on the third resole! I get my money back out of these things. Not trying to make a fashion statement. Just want a boot my feet like for working every day.
I guess it comes down to what's comfortable for you for the money spent & how long they last. I pick for function & performance before fashion for a work & outdoor life. I've always liked Red Wings but they just never found my fit. (I'll try again). I have early Justin 70's - 80's Chippewa & Danner, many older then me, & they just held up in comfort & looks to a boot twice the cost for looks. I agree, they're not made the same in recent yrs. A high heal Packer is a different bread & can't compare in comfort for walking. Justin Ropers lace ups can be every bit as clean & stylish to dress up in as well as comfort for walking. Certainly if you have a duty specific in conditions for all day on & off your feet job task then I do say go for the custom made to fit. You will appreciate it in the long. My favorite UK boots are still Doc martens & Prowler.
Nick’s is definitely #1 but I’m sure it was really hard ranking all these boots.
I've been wearing the same pair of Red Wing 8146s for 14 years
Couple things, first; just bought both socks. I'm guessing with a name like Camel City their made in Winston? Either way, you had me at made in North Carolina. Second; the Origin denim jeans is now made in Asheboro NC. Everything else I believe is made in Main. But the jeans are manufactured in North Carolina with all products to make them coming in from other parts of the US (the cotton is from Texas I believe)
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! They're made near Burlington, NC actually, but the company (and I) are based in Winston. And that's interesting re: Origin being made in Asheboro. I didn't know we still had denim factories here - I'll have to look into that! Again, thank you so much for supporting Camel City Mill and the BootSpy channel!
@@BootSpy thanks for making a North Carolina product. As for Origin, just their jeans are made here. There's a great CZcams video of the owner flying down to purchase an old textile plant and turn it into where they make their jeans. I love that, bringing that back to NC. Also, Devil Dog jeans is a NC product.
The largest denim plant in the U S was/is in Littlefield, Tx. NW of Lubbock. Littlefield is the home of the Jennings family, as in Waylon!!!
Where's Camel city Mill? I'm near Winston Salem and can't find much on the website of it's location.
In NY theres redwing stores all over the place, maybe its because theres so much more construction so getting them isnt an issue. (im on long island i work in the city) i changed styles of construction couple years ago and now i work inside on stages, but i used to wear the Red Wing King Toe when i was building apartment buildings. Now i wear the Irish Setter moc toes, for some reason i find them more comfortable than the red wings and their a few bucks cheaper. When i had slimmer and healthier feet i loved something similar to the Red Wing 4433, maybe thats what it is but i thought it had a 9 somewhere in the model number.
Wow. I would have never have guessed redwing rated so high. I love them, but never thought they were a top 10 boot.
Bean boots are great for specific scenarios. I own two pairs - one unlined and one lined. The unlined are for very rainy days and times I am going to muddy areas like horse farms; the unlined I use as snow boots. These boots are very high quality for these purposes. Most of the other stuff Bean carries has unfortunately gone downhill in quality over the years.
Have whites perry
RW IR in muleskinner /ebony harness /CRT
3 pair Beckmans
1000 mile
And love my RW rough neck in CRT
Nicks is on my list !!