DPS Showdown! Who's the STRONGEST Standard Banner Character? Tighnari vs Diluc vs Keqing
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- In today's DPS showdown, we pit the brand new soonish to be standard banner character, Tighnari, in an epic battle against his fellow standard banner DPS characters, Keqing and Diluc! Find out whether or not Tighnari can keep up with the rest!
0:00 | Intro
0:20 | Builds and Disclaimers
2:21 | 1st Showdown
4:18 | 2nd Showdown
6:23 | Reaction Showdown
9:12 | Full Team vs Abyss 12
14:48 | Results and World Record
#genshinimpact #genshin #tighnari #keqing #diluc - Hry
I figured I'd clarify my thought process on Diluc's Abyss run. I've received many complaints about how Diluc's subdps Xingqiu wasn't built properly in the past. So this time, I built his new best in slot subdps option, Yelan, properly. To NOT use Yelan with Diluc is to not properly play Diluc when you have her as an option.
However, when speedrunning, my **sole objective** is to complete it as FAST as possible. Everytime I tried using Diluc, he would add 1-4 seconds onto each chamber. Intentionally going slower with an optimal team is against the whole point of speedrunning, although it is debatably against the point of a showcase. But I think the end result speaks for itself and shows the state that older characters like Diluc are in, in comparison to their "subdps supports" like Yelan.
Anyway, I do take your feedback seriously! Hence why I properly built Diluc's subdps for this video 😁 Thanks for watching!
can you do a video- who is the best traveller (sorry for my bad english)
yis
heres some feedback, stop making showcases like these.
I'd say it's probably a sign to have Xinqiu built to properly support Diluc in the video, rather than doing a Yelan showcase. I can imagine being very dissatisfied if I was a Diluc main watching this for a comparison.
Yelan is just too OP 🥵
Abyss run participants: Diluc, kequig, Tignari.
Winner: *Yelan*
this gave me Eula vs Xiao vs Itto flashbacks
This is the worst bullshit I have ever seen in a comparison video. Using C6 limited character forcefully and ruining the whole point of the comparison
😭🤣🤣🤣
2nd place Yae miko
Yelan is absolutely cracked
We went from Tighnari vs Keqing vs Diluc to Tighnari vs Keqing vs Yelan real quick
@@recitationtohear I decline
but yelan team isn't optimal cuz she has diluc in her team.
LMAO facts
@@pearlblack9753bruh, stop he's already dead 💀💀💀
Also don’t forget the c6 yae wwkkwkw she alone does more dmg than keqing or tighnari even diluc off field
So what I learned from this abyss showcase was:
-Even with C6 Yae and Sara, Tighnari still contributes quite a bit himself
-Keqing's lacks a better dendro support and has to rely more on Yae than Tighnari
-Diluc's "optimal" team is sub-optimal because he's in it lol
Keqing+fischl c6 + traveler dendro+kazuha or keqing+sara c6 + traveler + kazuha es better than keqing + yae .-.
Also Keqing battling electric type
There’s no optimal 4 character team for c6 yelan because outside of literally just kazuha, switching her out to anyone else would be a dps loss, she just wants any other hydro on her team for resonance and literally anyone else, doesn’t matter. Maybe childe for his ascension talent that buffs normal attacks and _maybe_ xingqiu for the hydro shred and ignore his skill??
@@impendio c6 sac sword xingqiu for hydro shred, energy and hydro resonance is really good for yelan
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the last conclusion had me rolling on floor.
Imagine being the side character in your own DPS run 💀
Not even the side character. He's totally useless
@@_khimcristy1865 he actually makes it sub-optimal 😂
@@_khimcristy1865 who
@@_khimcristy1865 he's very useful. Bro just decided to not use him and troll us 💀
@@bigbrawler7078 he's literally useless stop coping, diluc's best c6 team is to not use diluc, even at c0 jut use xiangling over diluc
Ah yes, Diluc really held that team together, if it wasn't for his single hit, how could they have won?
he carried so hard with that one hit omg
literally was just a c6 yelan showcase wtf
I'm sorry but majorly using yelan in a "diluc's" showcase is so stupid
@@joffreynedbasilio8703 have to agree. the point of these showcases is people who want to use those characters and compare with the best team (that uses them as a main source), not state the obvious that yelan is overpowered.
@@joffreynedbasilio8703 I mean, to be fair, using Diluc at all is pretty stupid.
It's really hard to make a DPS showdown using full teams when broken supports come in to play. This video reminds me of xiao-itto-eula showdown where raiden won lol
that was the most ridiculous showdown to date. it was just dumb.
This guy account is you know..
TBF, he left it up to a vote, and people voted that Eula should be able to use her best teammate, Raiden
Well practically u play this game with 4 character available. So why bother playing 1 character where theres very little content in the game the required u to do so
but you use supports in the game 😂
In that last “Diluc” abyss showcase you could have easily put instead a level 1 Aloy without artifacts and made it her showcase too
case in point, diluc is sad
Yeah, or he could have just done the exact same run with Tighnari or Keqing in Diluc's slot and called them their run too.
Just because Diluc is on the team doesn't mean it is a Diluc run. you have to actually use him. He did one hit at the end of the last chamber as a formality.
@@TurTurHamMan it is meant to be a diluc run bro...
This is a Diluc speedrun, not an Aloy one. (Edit: C6) Yelan is Diluc's BiS subdps/support. To not use her would mean you are not giving Diluc his optimal team. And even with his optimal team, Diluc is bad. That's the point.
i said the same thing like what
Surely a Diluc abyss team showcase actually involves using Diluc 🤔
Surely
Yeah he just used diluc one time in the end Lol
what was the diluc abyss run lmao 😭 he was used for ONE second in the last chamber and everything else was just Yelan. love your videos but how is this exactly a fair diluc showcase in the abyss.
i can understand yelan is way more optimal in the team, but it’s still not fair to practically not include diluc at all when claiming to showcase him as the dps
Ye, ended up being a Tighnari Vs Keqin Vs Yelan video... diluc cheerleading for his own "support" lmao
This isn’t a showcase on how good the standard banners are, it’s a showcase on how good their sub dps and supports are xd
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@@weebly_ It's not a Diluc showcase anymore, tho.
He could have put Yelan in the Keqing's team and it would've performed better, if played like that.
Does that mean that Yelan is Keqing's best support, since she alone does a better job than Keqing's herself taking her place?
The Abyss run in the video tells me nothing about how good Diluc is, because I never seen him lol
If he took 5 minutes more than anyone else, THAT would've been meaningful and would've shown how much useful he is.
Right now I just know he's worse than a C6 Yelan-
@@paulyvii Let's be real ever since people discovered how good Bennet and Kazuha are that's just every showcase ever lmao.
As we know that Diluc is a gentleman, he always finishes last
You're one of the worst people ever. I like you.
Yes XD
Based
@@cheese9466 it was a joke
@@dedpotato2738 Yeah i got that, Based isnt an insult lol
The only thing I gathered from the Abyss showcase is that Diluc is so sub-optimal, that the best way to use him on your team is to not. 🤔
You could've literally placed any single character C6 fully built, and it would still do the same as Diluc, aka nothing. Since everything was already done by Yelan
welp that’s what happens when you give a “support” too much power now we know…
Well probably xiangling could do something just pressing burst and switch
I wouldn't worry about it, just like Dendro seem to be a long term plan Hoyoverse had to boost Electro. (No one should still believe it's a coincidence or totally reactionary at this point)
Hoyoverse's plan for Diluc is probably positive Melt, this is why Hoyoverse avoided positive Melt/Vap reaction teams like the plague. Maybe Diluc will catch up again in Snezhnaya. XD
In fairness, that's the correct conclusion. And most people playing SA12 came to it like a year ago.
Why can’t you ever show the actual character running the abyss? People watched this video to see Tighnari, Keqing, and Diluc. You do this in a lot of videos too, you will have a team + Raiden and then just use Raiden to clear the whole abyss. No body cares about how fast Raiden or C6 Yelan could clear the abyss, otherwise we would have watched that video instead. If using Diluc on screen makes the run slower, then he makes the run slower. At least that way we know what Diluc is actually capable of.
You also say Diluc is the strongest standard banner character under the ideal conditions (having C6 Yelan). But you literally didn’t even use him. So his ideal conditions are to just not use him at all and have him take up a character slot for no reason.
Someone’s angry lmao
@@riceball8377 we aren't angry lmao. It's just stupid how he doesn't even use Diluc yet says he's the best standard character if you have c6 Yelan. Like what? Take Diluc out of that team and it wouldn't make a difference because he used Yelan most of the time. Idc if he using Diluc would have made that team slower. At least we could've known that Diluc isn't as great as Keqing and Tighnari
@@riceball8377 I mean rightfully so? This channel's vids turned into a joke long ago
@@riceball8377 I’m not angry, I’m just over it lol. It’s just really dumb
This video is an example of someone having high IQ and low EQ
Uh, I wouldn't really call the last run a Diluc team lol. If you're struggling so much so justify even bothering to give him screen time you might as well just slot in Xiangling, or even run Hydro resonance to further increase Yelan's damage.
its to see diluc’s strength not yelan. increasing yelan dmg just make the point of this video gone
@@riqi2 The point is gone already, who even has a C6 Yelan besides the 1% mega whales?
The CZcams target audience it's 99% players that aren't mega whales
It would make a lot more sense for 5★ to be C0 and 4★ to be C6
Bruh just cope with the fact that Diluc is trash and it makes no sense to use this useless character;)
It also means C6 Yelan is better than Keqing and tighnari even with a Diluc as deadweight.
@@Raphael-hc7sp based comment
I think even if using yelan was optimal, it really didn't showcase diluc. Would have been better to not use her c6 for this video.
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I think using c6 Yelan and not using diluc at all was a nice touch of irony IMO 😂
should've put Xiangling on the team lmaoooo
Well like he said though not using yelan's C6 ended up making the runs slower so honestly kind of still proves a point.
that "Diluc" abyss speedrun is just another reason why showcasing characters at c6 isn't accurate when the majority of viewers have c0 5 stars. I get there's a disclaimer that says "not accurate at all levels of investment" but still c6 Yelan is a dps monster herself. Not using diluc at the end doesn't prove hes useless in helping the team, it just means the video didn't even showcase him AT ALL???
showcase c0 5 stars and c6 4 stars when???
When Hoyo decides to add the ability to switch off some constellations
@@haruyanto8085 I mean he could just skip using yelan c6, but he didn't try, wanted to memes of bullying diluc instead of actually showcasing him and see how close was to the others, also yae c6 instead of fischl to be fair
@@asoret I agree. C6 fischl instead of Yae and Xingqui instead of yelan would make a much better showdown
@@asoret diluc isn't real dummy
I get the idea of building supports as much as possible, but that defeats the whole point of "showcasing" Diluc versus the others, doesn't it? The point of a showdown should be to see how much the individual character's damage can be supported, not overshadowed. If it's too hard to do because Yelan or another 'support' is too strong, then just limit the supports to 4-stars. I think it would make for a much more interesting and entertaining showdown.
At least not using yelan c6
@@asoret he could have just taken the artifacts off or something too
Diluc: "What is my purpose?"
Iwtl: "You hit the last mushroom"
Diluc: "Oh god..."
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I think it would be more fair if you didn't use Yelan's c6 breakthrough barbs during Abyss 12 showcase. You could've just swap to Diluc after activating her burst.
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I just run the abyss 12 with yelan c6 and qiqi. I named the video Qiqi dps showdown. I'm a genius.
and even then she still would've dealt most of the team's damage lmao
HERE maybe this will help:
1) Diluc normal attack are really slow (He is a Caymore User) thus you will miss three procs of yelan burst while using them.
2)Diluc Burst is is rather long and add too little dmg considering his speed with vape instead you can use yelan to be present in on field to acquire more energy for her next burst.
3) If you are not going to use Diluc's Burst, with his skill it will take around 4-5 procs for a single vape.
Now, if we watch carefully in video, Yelan's 1 proc has three instances of Hydro DMG. One instance is doing MINIMUM 63k dmg. That is like 3*3*63,000=5,67,000(Hydro procs during one diluc normal attack*no of instances in one proc*DMG during single proc) and that is at minimum!!!. Now for Diluc his MAXIMUM is like on 100% pyro infusion with vape is like 44k. Therefore 44,000(Diluc dmg with one normal ATK)+2*63000(Non vape Hydro DMG of Yelan)+2*63000(lets just assume vape does double DMG then Yelan's one instance of vape)=296000k.
I mean really without Diluc's involvement Yelan is doing more than DOUBLE DMG when with him at her MINIMUM.
Let's be honest, Tighnari is the true winner here.
Has modern constellations vs meh old ones so, would love to see c0 battle
yep
Here yes, but I believe that at c0, Keqing would emerge the winner
Yelan is
@@lincolngomez9986 Yelan C6 is broken XD
I always liked your showcases, but seriously this time it was very bad showing Yelan instead of Diluc... none here came to see her...We already know how broke she is... (she could do it solo) so it wasn't very informative about Diluc's potencial...
I thinks this dude is the same one with the xiao showcase but it's actually raiden.
Probably made this video just to troll Diluc..RIP
this reminds me of the itto vs eula vs xiao showcase where you couldnt justify xiao's slow times and made him a raiden support when that is not at all his intended usage. if this video was meant to be any sort of insight on diluc's viability as a standard banner unit, there should have been no issue showing off the best he is capable of doing even if it hurt your speedrunner soul. i don't like or care for or play diluc, but if the only point of that abyss showcase was to give reasons WHY you shouldnt use diluc then this video shouldnt have been a showcase for him at all. if a character genuinely sucks or is powercrept, so be it, but there is no reason to NOT show that in the video who's intention is to show the comparison in the first place.
Exactly! Eula's run had Kazuha and Sara which were there to buff Raiden and didn't benefit Eula at all. It was a Raiden v Raiden hyper v Itto showcase rather than Itto v Xiao v Eula.
Totally, and i actually think that diluc would not be that behind of the other 2, he totally lost the vape reactions. He should just used yelan ult and swap to diluc...
@@fejipe he is literally ahead wdym💀
@@NWILS-uc1ju IIRC, that Abyss have 2-boss monster chambers that you need to burst 1 down then the next as quickly as possible, and that team worked really fine. The problem is he speedruns the Abyss part rather than showcasing the character as the main driver. And I get the idea of utilizing each of every ounce of the "supporting" character to optimize the run, since in actuality Raiden is the best partner for Eula on all of the possible team comps. It's just feel disingenuous that the video is about A vs. B (vs. C) showdown until the Spiral Abyss part.
exactly, it should have been the speed running potential of the c6 STANDARD banner units. Ofc using the entirety of c6 Yelan's kit is gonna outclear the other two, that shouldn't be the point.
Getting a standard banner character to c6 is getting more and more likely for F2P and Low spenders by the day. The question of using it over a limited unit with lower constellations starts coming into the forefront at some point. He should have used her as if she was c2 tbh.
Diluc showcase in abyss was unfair. Ig for abyss showcase u should try to prioritise more on the dps u are showcasing ( for instance not using yelan C6 and just using as a support)
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His speed runner mindset just can't stand not using what's on tap just by clicking one button.
Yeah like Xingqiu would have been better by far. Or going meltluc. Melt dives higher multipliers from the getgo.💀 vape is just easier to ungabunga. Vape luc is begginer friendly or when it's an abyss that you can use it in. Melt luc is better but a bit harder to use. Tho I like it. Numbers are much better.🤤
Diluc is capable of using Yelan optimally in his team, hence he should be allowed to have Yelan in his team.
@@MuhammadKharismawan Yup, always complains about how long Diluc burst animation is when its basically the same as every other character in game, and who cares if it does take 0.2 seconds longer? The message is clear though "Diluc is shit and not even worth playing", we get it.
10:09 Diluc abyss speedrun with yelan's 80%, kazuha's 10%, venti's 9% and diluc's 1% of screentime 💀
0.1%*
@@Games-yq9sc 0.000000000001%*
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That abyss showdown clip, was just a friendly reminder for everyone to pull for Yelan on her rerun.
Eh, I don't think she is that strong without R5C6.
C0 yelan = c6 xingqiu no f2p needs her
@@shadowpriest2574 i have her c0r1 and she's insane
@@shadowpriest2574 She isn't but she has step by step power progression and she is strong at c0. it's not a case like Xiao where you have to put in hundreds of wishes to not get any stronger before c6.
I much prefer characters like this because it i like them, i can go for it in the future. My main team has Raiden on it and there's legitimately no reason to c6 her because it's essencially useless. The other extreme are like Xiao, characters you realy don't want to use unless you have c6.
@@shadowpriest2574 she is basically carrying my team
The abyss runs of diluc was weird the team is just yelan venti and kazuha thats it diluc did nothing at all
You can put aloy in that team instead of dilcu and call her a really good dps
Edit :
Make me go wow this character is broken
Or make me go oh this character is weak
Don't make me go WHEN WILL THE CHARACTER DO SOMETHING
Getting flashbacks from that dps showdown with 3 dps characters but raiden carried 2 of them cus she is the best "support" for them
He explains that using Diluc is a DPS loss, Diluc lost in everything
@@SleepingPajamas Then dont use C6R5 Yelan in a Diluc showcase, use Xingqiu instead, serves the same purpose but you actually get to show off what Diluc can do. This is just completely pointless as usual.
For anyone wondering i did some math and the dmg diluc did is literally 0.5%
@@SleepingPajamas yelan shouldn't be in the team if she will do 99% of the dmg thats not a diluc showcase anymore
Trying to speedrun with all these 3 dps characters by slapping "supports" that dose 99% of the dmg is stupid
The fact that Tighnari's team can perform on par with Yelan c6's is really great. We all know Yelan c6 is a beast
True but also you know its yae c6 with sara c6 buff and tighnari c6
By the logic presented in the abyss runs, it might be better to swap Yae out of Keqing's and Tighnari's teams and put in Yelan. It would then probably be a time save to not use the main DPS much, kinda how it was for Diluc.
Exactly the end its like a meme of "how to make any character viable and op" like when they use whoever in national team
I'm going to do an Amber showcase with my team made of Raiden, Yelan, Bennett and Kazuha.
Showcase characters on-field time, timed and averaged. Averaging is due to watching each individual run 5 times, my timer skills aren't perfect after all.
-Tighnari: 19.7 seconds
-Keqing: 22.8 seconds before others finish, 28~ seconds overall
-Diluc: 1.1 seconds
While I understand you wanting to be as optimal as possible, that would be like claiming to do an Abyss speedrun with level one Aloy and then using her NA once before switching to a hypermeta comp+aloy flex slot. My point is, Keqing is also relatively suboptimal, and she recieved roughly 20 times the on field time. We'd much rather see a DPS showcase using the character advertised as opposed to a c6 Yelan showcase, even if Diluc will in fact be slower. He's the original Pyro dps, of course he's going to be slower than a recently buffed electro unit or Dendro Ganyu. Love your videos nonetheless, keep up the good work!
Fully seconding this notion. I don't watch these videos for "abyss showdowns that happen to have a character on a team" i watch them to see that character be the main which the video promises them to be
@@jthompson7024 That's why I love Xiao and Tartaglia dps showcases, as most of the time it's nearly impossible to neglect their raw on field dmg potential. I concur though, even if it's slow, use the character you are showcasing lmao.
its not his fault the game is too weak for him to handle Diluc's best team god support lmao
the difference is that keqing's supports in this video doesnt require much field time... so the free field time window goes to keqing who needs it... on diluc's team however, both yelan and diluc, at c6, have to be on field to fully utilize their kits... keqing isnt suboptimal there... she fills in the time when no one needs to be on field so its a positive increase in team damage compared to not having her at all... diluc on the other hand, even at c6, is worse than his supports at dishing out damage while also requiring field time... i dont understand the need to be upset over a whale c6 team showcase since its unaffordable to most players.... if you have the money to have c6 characters, you objectively wouldnt want to use diluc either.
@@cyfemi Disagree with the Tighnari comp, and while true for the others, it's a damage showcase for Diluc, Keqing, and Al-Tighnari, not a support showcase. Speedrunning it with top tier c6 supports who don't need another character to be a main dps completely annihilates any reason to call it a dps showcase. That was my point. Less than 1% of the abyss showcase included the actual character (Diluc) supposedly being showcased, which is an issue.
as a diluc main im crying and shaking after seeing how he was treated
And it's only because he's slow 😭
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@@TheSilverHermitMage I mean keqing only have around 1400 atk
And his tighnari is not really good either
They have suprased him to far
@@iribilangbos3374 true true
Having a DPS showdown that was supposed to focus on Diluc, but almost didn't even used Diluc in that abyss run(besides that last hit lmao) is gotta be a new high for IWTL in these dps showdowns. So basically currently Diluc's best team is a team that you don't even get to use him much at all lol.
Well then everyone's best team its just using the best character and skip them lol
He did this with eula, yoimiya and yanfei
Adding a “f2p achievable” team DPS showdown portion would be ideal, where they can only use 4 star weapons and 4 star supports at c6. Or c0 five stars with 4 star weapons and use someone else’s account
Keqings biggest strength to most teams is how well she drives fischl’s A4, which ends up being relatively better than Yae at non-whale investment.
It also would mean that c6 r5 yelan is off the table
That's kinda impossible since he can't switch off the constellations
@@haruyanto8085 use a friends account in the short term
He whales enough, maybe make a second account in the long term
@@haiffy I’m not saying he’s obligated haha
He is always asking for suggestions, that’s my suggestion for the kind of content that I would like the best. He doesn’t have to do it lol
Also wait what who said anything about buying accounts?
@@haiffy Im sure he can build at least fischl and xingqiu, probably have them built already so just use them instead of broken yelan and yae, or at least don't use yelan c6 its not forced
lol what are you doing here
The way tighnari shred that geovishap HP
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Now show us the true speedrunning power of Qiqi by having her attack once in a fight while 99% of the damage is from the other characters
qiqi run with c6r5 yelan support
This dude is a pure joke, damn glad I unsubscribe this joker
@@danielanmp id watch that
qiqi will do dmge with clam set tho 😂
@@johnd7760 she won't if she never touches the field lol
I love your content man. It's informative, clear and even the awful puns are enjoyable but this was not it. Similar to the Itto/xiao/eula showcase where Raiden carried the eula (and I think the xiao one too) abyss run your priorities are out of whack. If speed running is the only thing that matters to you then make a speed running video. In a character showcase their supports are not suppose to take more field time that them. Even if you have c6 Yelan you could have opted not to use her c6 charged attacks to allow diluc to proc her ult as he would with xingxiu. By the logic you used all three teams could've had Yelan on them and gotten similar times. What does that actually tell anyone? I know you're busy with lots of new content for us but this felt lazy and poorly thought out.
He could even just add the c6 yelan gameplay at the end as a extra to explain the same that c6 yelan can win alone, but nope expected to see more or less who is stronger and received nothing xD
I think for the abyss 12 run, you should use their most optimal teams with f2p builds, or use their best 4 star supports and avoid 5 stars that benefit too much from cons. That way it won't become a sub dps showcase like it did here. Getting the fastest speed is less important to people than seeing how the char would realistically perform
Yeah, no Yae, Yelan, Venti, etc. Putting other 5* on a showdown (except Traveler) goes against any fair or realistic showcase.
True. Using such a broken sub dps' c6 is really unfair to Diluc.
@@biazacha it's not the 5stars, it's the c6r5 untra built 5stars... I can get any of these characters if i want to but C6r5? that's probably 2-5 years of primos (dpeneing mostly on weapon rng) concenteated into 1 character. That's way too unrealistic for us who don't get payed to play the game.
I like the part where he uses diluc on the abyys floor 12 incredible hydro damage there 😍😍
From Tighnari vs Keqing vs Diluc to
Tighnari vs Keqing vs Yelan real quick 🤣🤣🤣
I think we can all agree that Yelan won this 🤣🤣🤣
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I disagree and C6 Yelan ruined the whole point of the comparison. IWTL really should stop these bullshit additions to insult the characters.
@@genshinsage you don't get the sarcasm:( of the OP
this literally doesn't make any sense
wouldn't the best support for all three teams be yelan?
since the yelan team that didn't use diluc at all, ended up beating the other two teams, you could technically swap diluc with the other two and get a better time then their so called "optimal" teams right?
so don't they actually all have the same exact "optimal team" with the exact same clear time? or am i missing something?
this video really makes no sense...
Yep it just doesn't makes sense, wanted to flex or trash diluc with yelan
Uh... I think it was a nice showcase up until 9:12. You must surely see why we have an issue with the abyss showcase since 99% of Diluc's showcase was C6 Yelan. It's not showcasing pretty much ANY of Diluc's ability in the slightest!
I think it's best to ignore Yelan's C6 on this showdown because all I saw from Diluc it's a 32K at the end. In other words, this has been a Yelan showdown. Great video anyways 👍
Tbh, Yae Miko definitely did more damage than Keqing on her showcase as well, but Yelan took it to the next level
@@beef_file4459 at least we all saw keching. Not Diluc’s case
@@mss-rp8vh that's why I said Yelan took it to the next level
@@beef_file4459 yeah sorry if misunderstood, I meant to agree with you 🤣
Yah I just hope in the future showcase he use 4 star character on supp slot... So we can see how good the dps is
Expectation: tighnari vs keqing vs diluc
Reality: tighnari vs *keqing and yae* vs *yelan*
Bruh what the is this even ?! In the abyss showcase Yelan did everything in chamber 1 & 2 and also the first half of 3 but it’s being called Diluc showcase ?!?! 🗿
what's even sadder about this showcase is the fact this isn't the first time he's done this. He's done this with his Eula "dps showcase" using raiden for 95% of the time and made her hard carry. He did this with Yoimiya and made kazuha bennett and Zhongli do all the work. Iwintolose is truly one of the content creators of all time
I think we all can agree C6 Yelan is one of the best characters in the game, as a support, sub dps, or main dps. She is just so good.
yes I agree C6 5 Stars are good
I think we can all agree that, at C0 Yelan is one of the best characters in the game as a support, sub DPS or main DPS. She's just so good.
C6 is more of the same really. Much like Kazuha and every other cracked/broken unit in this game lol.
I like Raiden constellations more because it gives early powerspike in c2-3 .
Even at c0 shes in top 3 5*s 😅 shes just too good
@@sanda5226 i think u forgor qiqi is a 5* lol
Tbh, I dont think the abyss showcase was fair.
Diluc did like 3 instances of damage and only in the last chamber, while Yelan, the most broken 5 star, did all the remaining work. At least Tighnari and Keqing where doing something while Yae's totems were killing enemies.
Yeah, at the moment Yelan is simply the strongest Character in the game, not really a fair run here. But I enjoyed teh video anyway.
It's like Tighnari team vs Keqing team vs Yelan team with a random Pyro; heck, Amber would probably help with clear speed more than the Diluc there 😂
Dude have u watched Iwtl before, this is so par for the course whenever an outdated or underwhelming dps unit is being showcased
So true, its like putting an overpowered char in one of the team rather than putting a support unit. Yelan was the main dps and diluc was basically just a side char which did nothing. But tighnari's dmg actually did pretty good with yaes, i would say they both did 50/50 amount of work.
Yeah, and IWTL factored that into his analysis of the abyss run
I like how he swaps to diluc at the last second to use his skill just so it wasn't entirely Yelan doing all the work in abyss
Amazing how Diluc's cosplay powers in his showcase made him out to look like a lot Yelan
I don't mean to sound rude, but dps showdown meant to highlight the characters you compare and not the random broken support (that just happen to outshine the supposed main focal character of said showdown)
It would be relatable if they were all at C0, C0 Yelan is pretty easy to get and wouldn't make the results mega whale only accurate
@@nexuhs. i think it would've been justifiable even if c6 yelan was used, but OFF-field with diluc as the driver - at least he would've been in the showcase that way
Although using yelan for diluc was optimal, yelan+ keqing+venti+kazuha and yelan+tighnari+venti+kazuha would’ve been pretty much the same run
it feels like watching clickbait video lmao.
but the first and 2nd section of the video was still interesting.
@@sidiqdidi9925 Exactly xD its so bad that can't see who wins at the end because meme yae vs yelan
Not sure if he is a huge fan of yelan or hates diluc probably a mix of both
Love how the Diluc Abyss showcase was really to show him being an S tier spectator! 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
I like the Deepwood Sara support idea! I've been using her with Tighnari and Fischl and the set works well with how she buffs them, very creative. I didn't think Tighnari could wipe the first half of the abyss so fast with all the enemies, fun showcase!
I love how Yelan just has perfect rotationd that Diluc couldn't even do anything. I'd actually rather see Fischl with Tighnari instead, and good old Xingqui with Diluc as these seem more realistic team wise, and people actually have the constellations for them so C6 isn't unreal
Everything is unreal here (C6 everything R5 everything) but I had a big laugh how diluc wasn't swapped into
Lmao, he always showcase characters at full potential which why their c6 and r5.
@@thebrigade7684 the c6 and r5 is not the problem. they are all c6 r5. it is saying vs diluc and the diluc is not doing anything.
Guys, come on, after all these years, u rl shouldn't have these expectations from his vids..
if diluc wasnt used for the abyss and it was just three characters you still would've gotten the same time
great video as always!
That was a fun video and team showcase. It was interesting to see different people's opinions in the comment section.
I hope that you can make more C0 5* showcases and comparisons. If only Genshin allows to toggle constellations.
Diluc to this day is STILL limited by the lack of a Good weapon, Like for gods sake Hoyo release a 5* Crit claymore that Actually works with Diluc/Eula for ONCE
Redhorn works for Eula somewhat
@@recitationtohear where’s part 1?
yeah, like increasing elemental dmg bonus by 0.1% by every 1 point of elemental mastery
Someone please give me genisis crystal so I can buy zongli I lost in zongli banner
WGS and serpent spine are still 20% dmg increases over Prototype Archaic so it's not like his p2w weapon isn't miles better than his f2p ones
I think yelan and yae should have been swapped out for fishl and xingqiu, they carried so hard especially yelan. To the point that it was hard to see how much they contributed to the team
exactly
Is yae actually more off field damage then c6 fischl tho? I guess c6 yae probably is huh? I'm not familiar with the math just feel like fischl is op?
@@maestrothemage6063 fischl is strong but its c6 yae,, so y'know..
@@BarQ__ Just wonder though if it would actually be more beneficial to run Yae opposed to Fischl if you did the calc's. The time required for Yae's set up alone may skew the numbers more in Fischl's favor even though scaling's would be higher with a c6 5 star toon naturally. The 2 extra seconds that it would take on average to get yae's skill out comparatively to fischl's oz may give Fischl teams a faster time to kill on most targets which is overall more important then consistent prolonged dps in this game. Kind of crazy a 4 star can even be comparable to a c6 5 star in strength for the same role. Fischl is just busted imo. (also a4 ascension passive on fischl is mongoloid with dendro, not sure Yae could keep up even on prolonged dps)
@@maestrothemage6063 yae has no downtime on her e even at c0 tho, and at c6 she has electro shred, you dont need shorter casting time when you killed them with one rotation lmao, crazy how you overlooked that.
Good Stuff IWTL, keep doing what you love, I love watching your videos and hearing your throught process.
I was waiting for this video for so long
Could you retry that last test with 4 star options? Like fischl for both tignari and keqing, and xingqiu for diluc.
I think it would be a better representation of how these carries would perform as carries especially since having c6 yelan is …
True, but the problem is that Tighnari actually is a Yae support. But the only thing I can think of to make this fair is to nerf Yae to C0 damage or something cuz this is just not ok. Keqing should get Fischl tho
diluc + yelan is basically just a yelan showcase XD
Always love the content
As someone who didn't initially plan on getting Tighnari, I am so happy to change my decision, he's really fun to use with the quickswap dps playstyle. My Yae has a new favorite playmate. Got lucky with his weapon too.
Excited to see this! Tighnari is super fun, I don't regret rolling for him early. Happy saving to everyone who skipped and good luck to those who want him for their lost 50/50s :)
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I hit soft pity on his banner but got nothing...saving for nahida now
@@recitationtohear stop spamming irrelevant links dude sheesh
Good luck trying to get him after he Hits Standard lol. Losing 5050 then between 6 characters is 8% chance to get him
@@aalzien722 don't forget to count the weapons in the standard banner
Tighnari being a modern 5 star and having all his constellations definitely puts him way ahead of the 1.0 5 stars whose constellations are arguably some of the worst in the entire game. I think that if this was a Constellation 0 comparison for all 3, Keqing would easily come out on top now. The flat damage boost from Aggrevate is just too good and her ability to never not have Electro damage for it.
Facts
I still think tighnari would have stomped
Keqing was using TF without reaction and Diluc was not using C4 and C6 in this showcase, Tighnari is the only one used well in this showcase
Jean has nice constelations.
i loved your ideia for this video !
What about doing floor-12 speedruns with only 4star supports and free characters (such as Traveler and Aloy)? The "support" c6 5-star characters in your floor12 run are far too strong, such as Yae Miko who dealt more total than Keqing (do I even need to mention Yelan?). People watch these sort of videos to get an idea if they can spend primogems or invest resin in these characters. The optimal 4star supports is a lot more relatable, most people can fill multiple teams with the supports they've built. They won't exactly be true 'speedruns', but they will be 'speedruns featuring character X under relatable conditions', which is far more interesting to most viewers who click on the video based on thumbnail/title.
Before Dendro, Keqin was in the " DPS SLOWdown" 😂 Glad that she has finally a chance to shine a bit.
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@@youravghuman5231 i did and still...not the best DPS among the standard bannare units.
@@RejectedInch Then who is XD
What other DPS besides Tighnari is there that can beat her now
@@RejectedInch there are only 3 dps in standard banner and keqing is at 2nd place
Dendro finally bring some balance to elemental reactions, I remember when all released was Pyro and Cryo 5* because only them were bringing bigger sales…
as someone who would never use a bow character, tighnari made me change my mind he's so fun to play especially with hyperbloom! thank you for the video!
Tighnari is made for aggravate though, je does little to no damage with other reactions
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@@stan3449 yes im aware of this! if im not wrong the current abyss buffs hyperbloom really well so running that team on abyss rn was fun. usually on exploration i run aggravate ^^
@@stan3449 it's spread for dendro characters my dude
also you can totally get a lot of hyperbloom value from him, not sure if it's the optimal option but certainly a valid one
@@Ironsuaba oh i see! sorry the dendro reactions are still not very clear to me :") i dont have a good hydro applicator at the moment so i might not run it outside of this abyss
I'm grateful for the comparison between these three. The only thing i felt a bit weird to watch was the abyss run. Yes we know c6 diluc does much less dmg than c6 yelan so he's not optimal for speedrunning but we still want to watch how good or bad a character performs because that's what that character can do in this situation. Just like yae miko was doing much more dmg than keqing or tighnari but they had their time to show their abilities and what they can do in abyss
There are so many comments that criticize your work I really really like to watching your vid. Even if the diluc run is a little bit weird i like your style of making those vids. I hope you keep making them so your community and I can enjoy them. :)
IWTL:Keqing wins over Diluc with a reaction team.
Hypercarry Yelan: hold my bow
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I mean C6 Yelan was already proven to have power crept the entire roster, not even Xiangling can compete
@@bloody4558 c6 yelan is in a tier above all tiers even the S tier doesn't matter(samething as Mega Rayquaza in the Pokemon Competitive gaming which was banned for being too GODDAMN strong)
this was really interesting to see with dendro reactions :)
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@@recitationtohear annoying bot
thanks for the yelan showcase iwtl!!
*Show Diluc Abyss F12 showcase
Diluc: "The best I can do is giving Yelan some moral support."
Diluc's one single hit in the entire abyss 12 run was hilarious.
loved the yae miko and yelan showcase in abyss
Do you think you could do a video on your top ten character builds/teams? I'd like to see your raiden stats etc :)
Nice Yae and Yelan showcase.
Besides that, I cleared pretty easily F12 second half with Keqing C4/Yae C2/DMC C3/Kokomi C0.
Same first half with Keqing Shinobu traveller kazuha
DPS showdown; Diluc + Yelan Abyss 12 run = Yelan 95% and Diluc 5% lmao
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I’ve been following IWTL since day one from his Klee content. I really like his style and all of his videos actually. But this one, man 😂 I mean I can clearly understand his intention but doing this is just wrong haha. Real DPS Diluc would’ve clear the Abyss 12 a lot longer than Keqing now a day. ( and that doesn’t mean he’s bad. You just have to accept the fact 😉)
To be fair… Venti’s swirl dmg probably did more lol
1%😅😅😅
Allow me to correct, yelan 95% + Venti 3% + kazuha 1.9% + diluc 0.1%
Diluc only attacked once in total...
I doubt a single e skill is 5% of the total dmg but yes
Diluc "main" DPS.
realizing you didnt use diluc in his own abyss 12 run was hilarious. i do think though you couldve included a 4 star support run with fischl for tighnari and ESPECIALLY keqing, as fischls a4 passive is very synergetic with keqings high electro app, and xingqui for diluc so he couldve actually gotten the screentime to show off his batman larping.
This video helped me a lot by showing me that I wasn't updated about the change of thundering fury set
I have a (for a lowish spender) extremely invested Diluc because I like the character but, even as a fan, I like how you did the speedrun. I thought it was hilarious and demonstrates the point you were trying to make.
How much do you think Diluc might be able to compete if they printed an actually good claymore? Something with big crit damage and a strong effect?
How to make an abyss 12 team for diluc.
Step1: equip yelan
Step2: don't use diluc
And that's how you make a diluc team
He’s a trophy husbando now, he’s there to be pretty with the new drip.
the best diluc team is a single c6r5 yelan
That abyss run was so unfair and I miss showcase where everyone are on C0
Keqing have the most shit constelations so in C0 she could be like 5 times better than Diluc and Tighnari [Yes, I remember about Tighnari worse arts, so Keqing and Diluc also should have a little worse arts]
I hope you gonna do like part 2 this video
I'm really happy that Keqing got buffed, now I can finally use her again and do good damage, thanks for the great video as always ! :)
Would have been cool to see a comparism at c0, since tighnari constellations are really nice, while keqing/diluc aren't. So it would have made them all much more closer to eachother.
Interested to see a single-target dps showdown next
The Abyss showcase was pointless if you was just gonna use Yelan in Diluc's "showcase" to let him win. Should have used Xingqiu instead and actually USED Diluc in his own showcase. Otherwise what's the point in calling it a Diluc showcase if you literally only used him for one hit at the end? Just a C6 Yelan showcase.
Amazing Yelan showcase there. Can't wait for the diluc video!
Wowie, pls do a Yelan vs Yelan vs Yelan showcase, i’m sure she’s an optimal “subdps” at C6 for all of these teams
Glad I got Tighnari before he was banished to the Standard Banner forever, since my track record for pulling Diluc or Keqing has been horrendous (2 Jeans, 1 Qiqi and 1 Mona) Im glad I got him early.
Just a reminder that this is a c6 Tighnari.
@@SpeekofDee I have a C0 Tighnari and he is still fun. Literally carrying me through the whole game
Same got my Tighnari in 11 pulls. Since I was already close to pity.
@@SpeekofDee There's barely any difference in terms of playstyle so it doesn't really matter whether your Tighnari is C6 or not.
That Abyss section was such a joke LMAO
I would love to see vids of u just talking to us abt Genshin related stuff tbh
I was waiting for this! C6 Tighnari in a DPS Showdown is going to be exciting
9:20 Yae's C2 range is unmatched for electro application in Abyss.
would have enjoyed some Physical Qiqi action too
might not win with the Abyss runs but would be pretty capable with the boss runs
She would work fine as long as you add Yelan to her team
This was alot of fun
Uh... Wouldn't this mean that it would be better to give Tighnari Diluc's team, since Tighnari can do that final hit faster? That would make Tighnari the fastest in every single thing here, and since C6 is F2P achievable in the long term, that logically makes Tighnari by far the best. But for real, just pull for Yelan and Kazuha. They are insane, and you will get Tighnari with them.