I love that you mentioned the kawaii. The touch/action and speakers are amazing on the kawaii. But the features with the Yamaha app are hard to pass up.
it seems odd that there isnt a basic metronome available to be running along with the smart piano and light guide so you can stay in time. Hitting the notes with no master tempo seems odd to me. Is this not the case? Can you have a metronome running along you to keep your tempo in mind?
The bass is fine. You are comparing an upright piano to a 12-foot grand piano. If you want a better comparison, just use the voice that is named "Upright Piano". That voice has a much more subtile bass which you would expect on an upright piano like the U1. There is also a pretty advanced EQ in the settings if the bass is too much. I also think other GP voices like the studio grand, bright piano, pop grand and rock piano have slightly weaker base notes. Also, the point about the light bar being in the way when playing the black keys is pretty picky considering all acoustic pianos have kind of the same layout including your own U1. I guess it could be slightly annoying coming from a stage piano or something like that, but as someone who has been doing that transformation I barely think of it. Otherwise, good review!
hi and thanks for the feedback in my memory, the piano definitely skewed towards overbass in any mode when played back through the speakers. through headphones it's much better and more representative of a real grand though i feel. yeah i agree the light bar thing was a bit picky but i just felt i had to include something 'negative' about it to keep the review balanced. it did bug me on a few occasions but it's definitely something you can get used to!
@@propercushty Yeah, a little bit perhaps. When playing back music, the bass is kind of loud. you can fix this with the EQ inside the app I think. On the contrary, I think I want more bass with headphones. I guess it depends on what phones you are using. Over all, the speaker system is what impressed me the least with the piano so far, so you are kind of correct with the critique. It's not bad at all but I expected more. I just wanted to point out that the bass representation of the upright section is very realistic to my ear and that comparison is more fair.
@@snurrfint yes the treble sounds much better, especially after messing around with the parametric EQ i got it to sound quite realistic eventually. However, I did end up sending the piano back in the end. The weight of the keys was too much for me. Shame...because I really liked the design and features of this piano. After almost 2 long years of searching for pianos, I bought a used 6ft grand piano made by Kawai, and I also bought a Roland LX708 which is actually really, really good in terms of the feel of the keyboard, the design and the speaker system sounds legitimately good. This was the closest I could get to what I wanted with a digital piano. Happy practising!
For some time I'm interested in upgrading to a more serious dig. piano. My daughter is playing on a CTK6200 for now, so you'll get my drift 😄 Anyway, good practical points you mentioned about its key-weight and tilted bass, imo, because Yamaha (especially in this pricerange) should have this nailed. Reviews like this add value to my search and understanding before buying. This piano I can't afford, but if you do have any advice (up to 1500BP), feel free to chime in. Btw, great sound on your demo's 👍
Hi Mike - thanks for your kind words as always. Happy to help here. My reply is based on my belief that you want a digital piano that sits on a furniture stand. If you don't mind other design options, then let me know and I'll recommend some other pianos. If you don't want a sliding keyboard cover (and you want something more portable) then I would recommend the Yamaha P515. www.yamahamusiclondon.com/product.php?product_id=NP515BUK-PACK2&source=froogle&gclid=Cj0KCQiAip-PBhDVARIsAPP2xc0U12PoqGKZC4_bGsrZBq2krxT843jNlpZh-h1kF5m778MWKDGiXVwaAh2CEALw_wcB It has a decent action (NWX but I have tried it in the shop and it's better than the one in this video). It looks neat and tidy (I think) and it's quite simple to use. The integrated speakers aren't the best (hard to impress us hifi geezers) but they are better than average (compared to other pianos in this price range). If you do want something with a sliding keyboard cover in a more fixed position, then I would recommend the Kawai CA49. Over the past year, I've tried pretty much every digital piano up to about 8 grand. I always seem to prefer the Kawais. The benefit of Yamaha is they do a better job of engaging the learner with things like apps, e-books and other neat features. But once you get past intermediate level you won't care about those things. In the long run, the most important thing is the action and sound quality (both internal sounds and sounds via the speakers). If you can afford a bit more, then the Casio GP310 is quite an interesting option, as is the Kawai CA79. They have longer keysticks and feel even more authentic (the Casio GP310 especially). But those pianos are between 2 - 2.5k. Hope this helps mate. - MDT
The 515 is a good recommendation, but if you’re looking for something else with the lights, I would say look at the one smart pianos, they do the same thing for about a 3rd of the price.
Hi MDT, very helpful review! One q, the specs of the csp-170 say it has adjustable touch sensitivity, but that just changes the sound/velocity, not the weight of the keys, is that correct?
I never actually tried on the CSP-170 but I did see the option in the menus. Usually this setting means the weight of key stays the same but the velocity curve changes (I've never seen a keyboard which has varying weight) - but if you increase the touch sensitivity in the app then you'd basically make a louder sound with less force. I guess this would help reduce fatigue (potentially at the expense of control)
the music sheet it gives you is only a breakdown of the chords in the music - it's more of an accompaniment than anything. However, I think you can adjust the complexity of the music score in the settings menu
CFX or Bosendorfer?
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Bosendorfer for me.
I love that you mentioned the kawaii. The touch/action and speakers are amazing on the kawaii. But the features with the Yamaha app are hard to pass up.
Fantastic review!
You're a very likeable personality! I genuinely enjoyed your content!
Glad you enjoyed!
I want the P515 but with the features of the PSRSX900. This is kind of it, but it’s $4500, and I prefer the portable form factor.
The One smart piano has been doing the light thing for years.
Also, you can use the other sounds with the function button without the app.
What is the piece you play at the beginning please?
Good review, pretty detailed and like the format and style. Well done.
Thank you for this very interesting review!
it seems odd that there isnt a basic metronome available to be running along with the smart piano and light guide so you can stay in time. Hitting the notes with no master tempo seems odd to me. Is this not the case? Can you have a metronome running along you to keep your tempo in mind?
Merci beaucoup pour la vidéo, étant débutant cela a favorise mon choix.
Bonne continuation
The bass is fine. You are comparing an upright piano to a 12-foot grand piano. If you want a better comparison, just use the voice that is named "Upright Piano". That voice has a much more subtile bass which you would expect on an upright piano like the U1. There is also a pretty advanced EQ in the settings if the bass is too much. I also think other GP voices like the studio grand, bright piano, pop grand and rock piano have slightly weaker base notes.
Also, the point about the light bar being in the way when playing the black keys is pretty picky considering all acoustic pianos have kind of the same layout including your own U1. I guess it could be slightly annoying coming from a stage piano or something like that, but as someone who has been doing that transformation I barely think of it.
Otherwise, good review!
hi and thanks for the feedback
in my memory, the piano definitely skewed towards overbass in any mode when played back through the speakers. through headphones it's much better and more representative of a real grand though i feel.
yeah i agree the light bar thing was a bit picky but i just felt i had to include something 'negative' about it to keep the review balanced. it did bug me on a few occasions but it's definitely something you can get used to!
@@propercushty Yeah, a little bit perhaps. When playing back music, the bass is kind of loud. you can fix this with the EQ inside the app I think. On the contrary, I think I want more bass with headphones. I guess it depends on what phones you are using. Over all, the speaker system is what impressed me the least with the piano so far, so you are kind of correct with the critique. It's not bad at all but I expected more. I just wanted to point out that the bass representation of the upright section is very realistic to my ear and that comparison is more fair.
@@snurrfint yes the treble sounds much better, especially after messing around with the parametric EQ i got it to sound quite realistic eventually.
However, I did end up sending the piano back in the end. The weight of the keys was too much for me. Shame...because I really liked the design and features of this piano.
After almost 2 long years of searching for pianos, I bought a used 6ft grand piano made by Kawai, and I also bought a Roland LX708 which is actually really, really good in terms of the feel of the keyboard, the design and the speaker system sounds legitimately good.
This was the closest I could get to what I wanted with a digital piano.
Happy practising!
For some time I'm interested in upgrading to a more serious dig. piano. My daughter is playing on a CTK6200 for now, so you'll get my drift 😄
Anyway, good practical points you mentioned about its key-weight and tilted bass, imo, because Yamaha (especially in this pricerange) should have this nailed. Reviews like this add value to my search and understanding before buying. This piano I can't afford, but if you do have any advice (up to 1500BP), feel free to chime in. Btw, great sound on your demo's 👍
Hi Mike - thanks for your kind words as always. Happy to help here. My reply is based on my belief that you want a digital piano that sits on a furniture stand. If you don't mind other design options, then let me know and I'll recommend some other pianos.
If you don't want a sliding keyboard cover (and you want something more portable) then I would recommend the Yamaha P515.
www.yamahamusiclondon.com/product.php?product_id=NP515BUK-PACK2&source=froogle&gclid=Cj0KCQiAip-PBhDVARIsAPP2xc0U12PoqGKZC4_bGsrZBq2krxT843jNlpZh-h1kF5m778MWKDGiXVwaAh2CEALw_wcB
It has a decent action (NWX but I have tried it in the shop and it's better than the one in this video).
It looks neat and tidy (I think) and it's quite simple to use. The integrated speakers aren't the best (hard to impress us hifi geezers) but they are better than average (compared to other pianos in this price range).
If you do want something with a sliding keyboard cover in a more fixed position, then I would recommend the Kawai CA49. Over the past year, I've tried pretty much every digital piano up to about 8 grand. I always seem to prefer the Kawais.
The benefit of Yamaha is they do a better job of engaging the learner with things like apps, e-books and other neat features. But once you get past intermediate level you won't care about those things. In the long run, the most important thing is the action and sound quality (both internal sounds and sounds via the speakers).
If you can afford a bit more, then the Casio GP310 is quite an interesting option, as is the Kawai CA79. They have longer keysticks and feel even more authentic (the Casio GP310 especially). But those pianos are between 2 - 2.5k.
Hope this helps mate.
- MDT
The 515 is a good recommendation, but if you’re looking for something else with the lights, I would say look at the one smart pianos, they do the same thing for about a 3rd of the price.
Super Mario land. Great choice!
Hi can you do a one year review of the shapa?
Hi MDT, very helpful review! One q, the specs of the csp-170 say it has adjustable touch sensitivity, but that just changes the sound/velocity, not the weight of the keys, is that correct?
I never actually tried on the CSP-170 but I did see the option in the menus. Usually this setting means the weight of key stays the same but the velocity curve changes (I've never seen a keyboard which has varying weight) - but if you increase the touch sensitivity in the app then you'd basically make a louder sound with less force. I guess this would help reduce fatigue (potentially at the expense of control)
can yamaha CSP 170 play music scores on its own
Whenever i try load my own songs to get the stream lights, the music sheet that it produces isnt actually correct, how can this be fixed?
the music sheet it gives you is only a breakdown of the chords in the music - it's more of an accompaniment than anything. However, I think you can adjust the complexity of the music score in the settings menu
nice review....
Thanks!
Can you transpose a piece into c scale to make it easier to learn?
you can do
@@propercushty Even the red lights for learning will transpose?
What’s the song at 10:52? Good review btw 👍🏻
This is the lullaby from Nintendo's Zelda series of games.
Thanks for the support :)
Great Review, many thanks =)
Glad it was helpful!
3 it's the final braincell lol