Odd as it might sound, double bass drumming was actually pioneered by a jazz drummer named Louie Bellson who played with such bandleaders as Tommy Dorsey and Duke Ellington.
Harrison Myers Yes Louie came on with those two bass drums and it was pretty much a new era Louie was unbelievable in his jazz playing and well then there’s Buddy Rich who in reality no one was in his league But look what double bass has become today probably thanks to Louie Belson
Fun fact: Every time I try a double pedal I play Judas Priest's Blood Stained in order to see how they react, so when I heard you play Painkiller had that kind of "wow" effect on me. Nice review!
Just upgraded to the new speed cobra from an old and cheap sonor double pedal. And i have to say! From struggling to play fast on the sonor, i blow my own mind of how fast i can play now with the speed cobra. Not cheap, but it's worth it, and it'll last you for maaaaaany years.
Upgrading a old pacific single chain double pedal with the speed cobra 310L in the next week or so. This video helped me understand the differences between the speed cobra and iron cobra. I’m going with the speed cobra.
Gotta love the Sonor with the Iron Cobra. Sounds amazing. Even the newer Speed Cobra sounds great. You make it look so easy lol. Thanks for the video!!!!
Adam Hansen, shredding on the drums! And that Sonor kit.. So gorgeous. Oh, and the pedals sound like a drastic improvement over the old design. I love the implementation of the swivel springs like the DW's. Good job Tama!
How did you get the Sonor logo badges on and old phonic plus kit? The badges are supposed to be rectangles positioned the tall way and chrome and black in color.
What are the differences between Power glide, Rolling glide and speed cobra? I want a pedal that is smooth, light feel and at the same time with power.
Raihan Rosli The cam shapes are different which affects the feel The rolling glide has a fully circular cam which makes it feel even through out the stroke and more of s traditional feel lets say The power glide has a more angular cam which makes it more powerful hitting pedal
I can't decide on which pedal I want. I play metal so I need a lot of power behind my hit but also something I can do doubles on one foot with. any suggestions?
@@mbj6555 Interesting, I had a quick google for a drum chart and found one that says crotchet=103. Then I timed the opening 4 bars of the original and it's definitely 120bpm before slowing at bar 5. I timed this one as 108. Not arguing either side, songs are often performed faster or slower than the original, and the intro to this video sounded great.
The speed cobra isn’t the flagship. It is one of them but no better than the iron cobra. Slightly slightly different but the iron cobra is also their flagship pedal. Both of those are Tama‘s top notch pedals. I have both of these newest versions and love them both and are very similar.
@@ehoc42 Its pronounced ZO-nor in Europe, in the states its pronounced so-NOR, its German, from the word sonorous, meaning "tone". Now I could be wrong, but this dude said senor, like the Spanish term for male, I've never heard it pronounced quite like that. I was thinking, so Sonor has a Senor series now!? What the heck did he just say? Lol. I ain't talkin crap, I'm just saying, it was noticeable, doesn't really matter, I knew what the kit was. But if I was a noob, and was interested in that kit, I be calling around, asking if anyone carries a Senor kit, or a Senower, or whatever he said, and probably wouldn't find one. And this guy works for Reverb. I found it comical. Honestly. Anyway, have a great day!
So-NORE, actually, which is correct. He didn't pronounce it the way you described at all lmao. Nick DiVirgilio of Sweetwater famously pronounces it "Sonar" which is incorrect
I have the 310. It's... meh. Nothing special. Fairly standard feeling, pretty sturdy but mine has a little wobble at the heel plate. The springs are loud as he'll though
whats the difference between them? i think thath the speed cobra is a bait because a lot of drummer that play really fast uses iron cobras instead of the speedcobra and the iron are cheaper
I play a single pedal most of My Life and I went to the music store to order a double pedal forget which one exactly. I think it's the iron Cobra Around $300. I went through 3 returns until I gave up because All the parts were screwed in so tight I couldn't set the pedal to the correct positioning.. I have the single pedal which is fine Can you explain this and have you ever had this happen to you Cause that's a ridiculous problem to deal with..
the over quality of this pedal I wouldn't say is there in my opinion I have a pair and have a few issues the metal is quite shaved down where I connect the shaft between the 2 pedals making it hard to take it apart and to assemble them and gets worse every time I play alot of shows with my band and its frustrating when I only have so much time to set up and the pedals wont go together because the metal is mangled.. also my right footboard has ALOT of side to side play..keep in mind these are basically new sooo I dunno I am looking into new pedals lastly the spring tension doesnt go tight enough personally for my need anyway I keep it maxed and feels like I have it tensioned like half way
IMO, those little rubber beaters on the Speed Cobra are lame..too small & you don't get a nice thump as you would with a bigger felt, plastic or wood beater.
Strange dynamics: loud cymbals, (in my opinion) a weird, flat sounding snare & very little kick drum, esp. since this is about bass drum pedals. No offence, but there are seperate close mics on the kit, so it should be possible to get a more accurate result. Mabye just use 1 mic for the whole kit and work on your dynamics?...just sayin'.
Bojangelin96 he said stay tuned and stay metal. Lolllll. That was so corney as if only metal heads are watching this video and into these pedals. A ton of all different styles and every genre of drummers play these pedals.
Yeah, let's do a bass review with the bass almost completely turned down. And why do the cobras swing so far back? These are the only pedals that have repeatedly hit me in the shins and it's dumb. I don't think a lot of these people understand "extreme metal" those 16th notes he's playing are not extreme. I can literally play them and faster on my pearl eliminators with a single pedal. Extreme metal can be 32nd notes ,64th notes and even higher. I don't get what people see in the cobras and I've tried them repeatedly, just because i keep thinking "well maybe I missed something, people keep talkin g about them" but then... no. No good. We need some Mongeese to kill these cobras.
Odd as it might sound, double bass drumming was actually pioneered by a jazz drummer named Louie Bellson who played with such bandleaders as Tommy Dorsey and Duke Ellington.
Nu Metal fan Stupid Flanders he’s not wrong look up the song called skin deep off of Ellington Uptown.
Harrison Myers Yes Louie came on with those two bass drums and it was pretty much a new era Louie was unbelievable in his jazz playing and well then there’s Buddy Rich who in reality no one was in his league But look what double bass has become today probably thanks to Louie Belson
Another odd fact: there is lots of jazz songs that feature a predecessor to blast beats in the solos before metal used them.
@@cigarettecat3981 you definitely no your stuff man. Lol
Colin Williams yah your right that was my 12 year old self trying to hate on shit like jazz
I think I could literally sit down and watch nothing but the Reverb guys do covers and jam.
Fun fact: Every time I try a double pedal I play Judas Priest's Blood Stained in order to see how they react, so when I heard you play Painkiller had that kind of "wow" effect on me. Nice review!
I like how the focus is bass drum pedals and all I can hear are the cymbals
Just upgraded to the new speed cobra from an old and cheap sonor double pedal. And i have to say! From struggling to play fast on the sonor, i blow my own mind of how fast i can play now with the speed cobra. Not cheap, but it's worth it, and it'll last you for maaaaaany years.
Dyna sync is where it's at now
Love it! I have to go with the 910 Speed pedal!
You Sir have good dynamics.
Upgrading a old pacific single chain double pedal with the speed cobra 310L in the next week or so. This video helped me understand the differences between the speed cobra and iron cobra. I’m going with the speed cobra.
Gotta love the Sonor with the Iron Cobra. Sounds amazing. Even the newer Speed Cobra sounds great. You make it look so easy lol. Thanks for the video!!!!
Yay! Just got the the Tama iron cobra 900 double pedals for $49 at a thrift store! So cool!
am i seeing this right
Damn dude! I spent 200 bucks on my used ones.
WHAT THE?!
Good review.
Adam Hansen, shredding on the drums!
And that Sonor kit.. So gorgeous.
Oh, and the pedals sound like a drastic improvement over the old design. I love the implementation of the swivel springs like the DW's. Good job Tama!
Way to end the video!!!!!! Priest!!! Great video! I just picked up my speed cobra
Metal style pedal. Funk style set. Tuned to jazz.
How did you get the Sonor logo badges on and old phonic plus kit? The badges are supposed to be rectangles positioned the tall way and chrome and black in color.
What are the differences between Power glide, Rolling glide and speed cobra? I want a pedal that is smooth, light feel and at the same time with power.
Raihan Rosli The cam shapes are different which affects the feel
The rolling glide has a fully circular cam which makes it feel even through out the stroke and more of s traditional feel lets say
The power glide has a more angular cam which makes it more powerful hitting pedal
That ride though.
Pls. Review speed cobra vs dyna sync
Please review the Dyna-Sync :)
Priest!!!
So, just the footboard is different?
I can't decide on which pedal I want. I play metal so I need a lot of power behind my hit but also something I can do doubles on one foot with. any suggestions?
Just got the speed cobra, i couldn't be more happy with it, so my suggestion is that one.
Rowdy Mathews if you want power the iron cobras are your perfect choice
Yeah, if you get the powerglide iron cobra, you'll get tons of power but still be able to play fast, play doubles and everything.
Whichever you prefer + Triggers ;)
Anyone have any trouble adjusting from a regular size footboard to the longboard?
That was very slow painkiller ☺
At least he played it clean dude. Better clean and slow than fast and sloppy. I respect that of him.
You should hear Disturbed's drummer attempt it.
Give him a break
Painkiller is 103 bpm, I clocked this at 101-102. That's "very slow"?
@@mbj6555 Interesting, I had a quick google for a drum chart and found one that says crotchet=103. Then I timed the opening 4 bars of the original and it's definitely 120bpm before slowing at bar 5. I timed this one as 108. Not arguing either side, songs are often performed faster or slower than the original, and the intro to this video sounded great.
didn't see much of the pedals
What is the better betwin iron cobra 200 and speed cobra HP310LW?
Depends on which you prefer. If you're into power, take the Iron Cobra. If you're into speed, take the Speed Cobra.
I prefer my buddys Iron Cobras over my Trick Dominators.
Trevor just sold my trick dominators for iron cobras.
I'll trade you some Iron Cobras for the Dominators.
What? Why?
nice priest cover brothers!!!!!!! fuck yeah!!!!!!!
Did that guy play Painkiller without palm-muting?
Personally hated the feel of the speed cobras, but love the latest versions of the Iron cobras.
The speed cobra isn’t the flagship. It is one of them but no better than the iron cobra. Slightly slightly different but the iron cobra is also their flagship pedal. Both of those are Tama‘s top notch pedals. I have both of these newest versions and love them both and are very similar.
Which one is "faster?"
They are both the same; one has a long footboard and the other one has a short one. It's up to you.
This guy pronounced Sonor as, "SO-Knower" that shit made my ears hurt lol
it's technically correct
@@ehoc42 Its pronounced ZO-nor in Europe, in the states its pronounced so-NOR, its German, from the word sonorous, meaning "tone". Now I could be wrong, but this dude said senor, like the Spanish term for male, I've never heard it pronounced quite like that. I was thinking, so Sonor has a Senor series now!? What the heck did he just say? Lol. I ain't talkin crap, I'm just saying, it was noticeable, doesn't really matter, I knew what the kit was. But if I was a noob, and was interested in that kit, I be calling around, asking if anyone carries a Senor kit, or a Senower, or whatever he said, and probably wouldn't find one. And this guy works for Reverb. I found it comical. Honestly. Anyway, have a great day!
So-NORE, actually, which is correct. He didn't pronounce it the way you described at all lmao. Nick DiVirgilio of Sweetwater famously pronounces it "Sonar" which is incorrect
Tama speed cobra 310 or iron cobra hp600?
I have the 310. It's... meh. Nothing special. Fairly standard feeling, pretty sturdy but mine has a little wobble at the heel plate. The springs are loud as he'll though
I'm sure that something was really wrong with that painkiller cover in the end. And I'm not even talking about the tempo.
whats the difference between them? i think thath the speed cobra is a bait because a lot of drummer that play really fast uses iron cobras instead of the speedcobra and the iron are cheaper
they are exact same price
@@antondubkov no they aren’t haha. At least not at this point in time.
@@kevinbothwell8425 ok, not exact, but close. Sweetwater prices as of now (for double pedal): Speed Cobra 910 - $479, Iron Cobra 900 - $449.
I play a single pedal most of My Life and I went to the music store to order a double pedal forget which one exactly. I think it's the iron Cobra Around $300. I went through 3 returns until I gave up because All the parts were screwed in so tight I couldn't set the pedal to the correct positioning.. I have the single pedal which is fine Can you explain this and have you ever had this happen to you Cause that's a ridiculous problem to deal with..
the over quality of this pedal I wouldn't say is there in my opinion I have a pair and have a few issues the metal is quite shaved down where I connect the shaft between the 2 pedals making it hard to take it apart and to assemble them and gets worse every time I play alot of shows with my band and its frustrating when I only have so much time to set up and the pedals wont go together because the metal is mangled.. also my right footboard has ALOT of side to side play..keep in mind these are basically new sooo I dunno I am looking into new pedals lastly the spring tension doesnt go tight enough personally for my need anyway I keep it maxed and feels like I have it tensioned like half way
Iron or speed?
Larry Tate speed bro
speed is the way to go
IRON.
a bit late,hope you chose Iron...
iron man
This guy is probably playing in whiplash sumwhere today
No offense but if you're demoing a double kick pedal, the kick drum better be WAY louder in the mix.
Legit all i hear is the ride
What's the essence of using earphone when it doesn't plug in on to anything??
as earplugs, for instance.
The noise reduction
The foot board/heel plate on the Speed Cobra made way too much noise.
IMO, those little rubber beaters on the Speed Cobra are lame..too small & you don't get a nice thump as you would with a bigger felt, plastic or wood beater.
that guitar tone sucked.
is this an April fools joke?
You barely played the pedals. The sonor got more of a demo.
They forgot to mention Mike Portnoy
Strange dynamics: loud cymbals, (in my opinion) a weird, flat sounding snare & very little kick drum, esp. since this is about bass drum pedals. No offence, but there are seperate close mics on the kit, so it should be possible to get a more accurate result. Mabye just use 1 mic for the whole kit and work on your dynamics?...just sayin'.
Hes trying so hard to be metal. lol
Bojangelin96 he said stay tuned and stay metal. Lolllll. That was so corney as if only metal heads are watching this video and into these pedals. A ton of all different styles and every genre of drummers play these pedals.
it is made of metal though. Therefore, STAY METAL!! 🤟🏼🤘🏾
Omg you’re so coool dude
Yeah, let's do a bass review with the bass almost completely turned down. And why do the cobras swing so far back? These are the only pedals that have repeatedly hit me in the shins and it's dumb. I don't think a lot of these people understand "extreme metal" those 16th notes he's playing are not extreme. I can literally play them and faster on my pearl eliminators with a single pedal. Extreme metal can be 32nd notes ,64th notes and even higher. I don't get what people see in the cobras and I've tried them repeatedly, just because i keep thinking "well maybe I missed something, people keep talkin g about them" but then... no. No good. We need some Mongeese to kill these cobras.