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  • čas přidán 17. 04. 2024
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  • @Picopori
    @Picopori Před rokem +657

    Ludwig is so wise he saw this coming in 1923

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion Před rokem +5

      lol.
      (In case you actually want to know, it's probably flat mode or raw, unprocessed footage. That's also what a cinema cam outputs to allow more processing freeroom)

    • @willflint46
      @willflint46 Před rokem

      @@itsTyrion thanks bro, cool to know

    • @junctiongaming729
      @junctiongaming729 Před 10 měsíci

      ⁠@@itsTyrion yes, I was gonna say the same thing. This is what all CZcams videos look like without color correction. Just means he has a good game

  • @griffinr5426
    @griffinr5426 Před rokem +20861

    Ludwig your vlog camera really brings out the sadness and despair of the situation

    • @killershark597
      @killershark597 Před rokem +154

      Oh I thought it was me I was trying to fix my resolution XD

    • @criptonstar
      @criptonstar Před rokem +44

      top tier comment

    • @staticsight
      @staticsight Před rokem +41

      It's because his white balance is off lmao

    • @kazzear_
      @kazzear_ Před rokem +572

      I think that the camera records in raw, which if it's not processed leads to a muted look to videos and images, basically someone forgot to do some post-processing... or the camera is crap.

    • @DIE9289
      @DIE9289 Před rokem +3

      Mr. Grey

  • @daylen577
    @daylen577 Před rokem +2049

    The fact that Twitch still doesn't allow viewers to pick the quality on small streams is absurd. I tried streaming Factorio and like 10 people said they were leaving because they couldn't handle a 1080p stream, then I lowered it to 720p and I got told that it was unwatchable. Twitch's bitrate means that games that have lots of 'noise' in them (i.e. any game that has small objects like Factorio but also games like Cities Skylines) end up looking super grainy or the streamer loses out on potential viewers for setting the quality too high.

    • @legojay14
      @legojay14 Před rokem +139

      Honestly you might as well go to youtube. Twitch stream discoverablity sucks ass. There's just no incentives to stream there until you have a bigger audience from elsewhere. And at that point why even bother going to twitch. Is the chat being better really gonna make that big a difference to your streams. I don't want youtube to have another monopoly but christ it's not like there wouldn't be a good reason this time

    • @djweavergamesmaster
      @djweavergamesmaster Před rokem

      @@legojay14 youtube stream discoverability sucks ass too

    • @Bigboi-pd3rn
      @Bigboi-pd3rn Před rokem +2

      @Queen this guy gets it

    • @wutgreens443
      @wutgreens443 Před rokem +19

      Factario? U deserved it
      Anyways what's your channel

    • @hoiblij6737
      @hoiblij6737 Před rokem +10

      @@legojay14 That's true, but on youtube you are also competing for users' attention with videos, so retention tends to be lower

  • @ZerglingPack
    @ZerglingPack Před rokem +322

    Honestly I think Twitch dropped all this in the middle of the chaos on purpose. So many large streamers are attacking each other and Twitch knows it would be near impossible for these people to drop everything and band together against Twitch. By the time the new split actually happens there really won't be much of a fire under those people and it's an easy victory for Twitch.

    • @gigitrix
      @gigitrix Před rokem +10

      It had already leaked to WaPo and they had that switch off date, so they just had to pick a busy time to drop the bomb. It's getting bad play on CZcams but streamers themselves are too occupied with drama and serious allegations/incidents to universally condemn it

  • @nola3963
    @nola3963 Před rokem +12546

    This situation sucked the color out of you Lud 😥💔....

    • @bleachmobile
      @bleachmobile Před rokem +77

      Actually it's because of his camera settings, here's a video that explains it czcams.com/video/mCfYi7634rU/video.html

    • @stephman3154
      @stephman3154 Před rokem +486

      Love how the description says “Sorry if audio quality is worse!!” and literally everyone is just talking about the video

    • @vhuLTuReZ
      @vhuLTuReZ Před rokem +2

      😂😭

    • @Goblino.
      @Goblino. Před rokem +1

      Lil scared maybe 🤔

    • @koimochi11
      @koimochi11 Před rokem +1

      aint no way

  • @ericlewis3444
    @ericlewis3444 Před rokem +5867

    our war correspondent, Lud, was up so late he had no time to change clothes. Dedication, bois

    • @tophersan1459
      @tophersan1459 Před rokem +2

      The grind is strong

    • @thomasmcshane2438
      @thomasmcshane2438 Před rokem +9

      That T-shirt is worthy of multiple wears in a row

    • @TheAnimefool
      @TheAnimefool Před rokem +2

      He got the military green shirt on with the goku crest and single gold star to show his 1 star general rank , utter chad

    • @krlhgn
      @krlhgn Před rokem +1

      @Thank me later 🅥 ur cringe for attempting to fake a verified icon

    • @djweavergamesmaster
      @djweavergamesmaster Před rokem

      @@krlhgn its a bot

  • @allanrincon7200
    @allanrincon7200 Před rokem +232

    If CZcams implements even an equivalent chat to Twitch’s, they win the streamer wars

    • @MerlinCross13
      @MerlinCross13 Před rokem +32

      Honestly just give me categories so it's easier to move around from stream to stream.

    • @thegoose2071
      @thegoose2071 Před rokem +12

      equivalent chat + better livestream discovery and they'll be SET

    • @MerlinCross13
      @MerlinCross13 Před rokem +6

      @@thegoose2071 Look I'll just take catagories and be happy. I find it incredibly hard to find anyone that might be of interest to me on CZcams OR Twitch.
      On twitch though, at least for games, I can narrow it down easier than I can on youtube.

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme Před rokem

      That's what CZcams needs. The mentally challenged Twitch chatters.

    • @DarneIITV
      @DarneIITV Před rokem +1

      @@MerlinCross13 agree

  • @bhlawrence12
    @bhlawrence12 Před rokem +12

    You clearly have a really good read on what's important to the creators and the audience. I hope CZcams continues to value you and listen to your input to continually improve their platform and avoid stalling out like twitch!

  • @seanthebeast300
    @seanthebeast300 Před rokem +4755

    1950s Ludwig

  • @remiwi2399
    @remiwi2399 Před rokem +3027

    this video was actually filmed 100 years in advance so he wouldn't have to record on vacation, hence why the camera is different to the one he uses more recently

    • @hamsnadwich6767
      @hamsnadwich6767 Před rokem

      L comment makes no sense

    • @Greencandy15
      @Greencandy15 Před rokem +1

      ludwig doing the most out here ❤❤

    • @redneck_engineer858
      @redneck_engineer858 Před rokem +10

      New theory that Ludwig is immortal and has recorded thousands of videos in advance to post them in accordance with our universal timeline

    • @buiItnotbought
      @buiItnotbought Před rokem

      This is ludwig1 recording, ludwig2 got shot by nick. Ludwig 3 shot nick and is currently streaming. Primer lol

    • @ulexx6574
      @ulexx6574 Před rokem

      I love how half the comments are just ragging on him for his lack of post processing lmao

  • @yearofthegarden
    @yearofthegarden Před rokem +7

    I've never gotten into twitch drama, but this is actual business information that once can capitalize by setting a course of ambitions based on what's going on

  • @ESQT
    @ESQT Před rokem +54

    Over and over I'm impressed by Ludwig's ability to produce these Mogul deliveries. It's concise, well paced, nice toned and in one cut too. This is good good content, and I am grateful.

  • @QyfieK
    @QyfieK Před rokem +3087

    The worst thing for us viewers is the increased amount of ads. Something like 10 unskippable ads is insane.

    • @kurosakiichigo7475
      @kurosakiichigo7475 Před rokem +140

      @Thank me later 🅥 dude get a life

    • @Skeleton43
      @Skeleton43 Před rokem +156

      adblockers still work luckily. honestly i wouldn't watch any content if there was a SKIPPABLE ad at the start of every video

    • @OKS_M
      @OKS_M Před rokem +20

      @@Skeleton43 which adblocker do you use? non of mine seem to work.

    • @phonetismscoop3713
      @phonetismscoop3713 Před rokem +59

      @@OKS_M ublock origin

    • @differentcontrast7997
      @differentcontrast7997 Před rokem +5

      just use ad blocker

  • @syber_
    @syber_ Před rokem +14735

    I was mid thrust with my girl got the noti and told her it had to wait

  • @hatelifer
    @hatelifer Před rokem +1

    love the color correction on this Lud! Looks great!! 🎉🥰😘😘

  • @spyrothetimelord
    @spyrothetimelord Před rokem +1

    As someone working in marketing hearing about PR stuff like this is just sad and makes me want to tear my hair out. It's like they literally don't even try to think of what the smartest (and most well received) choices would be, nor think "well we're going with this s*** decision anyway, so we need to come up with a (relatively/fully) truthful reason for the consumers"

  • @anitatension1705
    @anitatension1705 Před rokem +570

    Really respect Ludwig for not revealing he is a time traveler up until this point by releasing this video filmed in 1934.

  • @yeti4269
    @yeti4269 Před rokem +1675

    This video makes me want to go smoke a cigarette outside of a rainy office in the city at night

    • @pheonix1916
      @pheonix1916 Před rokem

      yummy cigarettes

    • @mango-float
      @mango-float Před rokem +7

      "my tea's gone cold I'm wondering why, I got out of bed at all"

    • @slugoo6474
      @slugoo6474 Před rokem +3

      With some sad tenor sax playing in the back…

    • @nicolem4253
      @nicolem4253 Před rokem +2

      beautiful imagery ty for this

    • @ahi7502
      @ahi7502 Před rokem

      yeah i dont know why but i really like this filter

  • @itsmebougie
    @itsmebougie Před rokem

    Hey bro love the raw footage, has a real cinematic look

  • @KrowShow.
    @KrowShow. Před rokem +2

    Thanks for keeping community updated, Ludwig, Definitely interesting info.

  • @dilliedAlly
    @dilliedAlly Před rokem +2517

    i'm glad lud came back from beyond the grave to share this with us

  • @theodoresipols1192
    @theodoresipols1192 Před rokem +5625

    I didn't know how to feel about a bunch of internet millionaires getting a pay cut, but then I quickly noticed the gravity and emotion and seriousness of this situation because ludwig was nice enough to remove the color from this video. Thanks ludwig!

    • @theyesandno370
      @theyesandno370 Před rokem +14

      it wasn't the millionaires tho, its cause its mostly the small streamers who are gonna suffer

    • @IvoryJake
      @IvoryJake Před rokem +365

      This effects way more than just the top streamers. Take a look at Stanz video on the situation, really helps understand whats going on.

    • @Amalasian
      @Amalasian Před rokem +85

      i feel you on this. but never forget the top payed people dont stream, they simply claim to work for twitch and make huge amounts of money.

    • @mehtabsingh8131
      @mehtabsingh8131 Před rokem +74

      especially how it’s only the top streamers who are getting this cut. It’s not like they will be broke after this change.

    • @cheeselord8153
      @cheeselord8153 Před rokem +12

      Don’t think of it as millionaires getting a pay cut, think of it Bezos getting a pay raise.

  • @filistraight
    @filistraight Před rokem +7

    I like this style of video. Studio is classic, but these sit down talks feel amazing.

  • @seana3918
    @seana3918 Před rokem +1

    Hey Lud, just to let you know the PhillyD show had an interview about the CZcams short split a couple days ago where Phil asked for clarification on how shorts that use music will be monetized. They were saying "We take care of that beforehand" but when pressed they basically explained the music licensing takes their cut first and then the 45-55 split applies to what's left. I think there was some controversy about how they announced it so I wanted to comment the clarification

  • @DatRollingOre0
    @DatRollingOre0 Před rokem +5405

    At this point Lud is like a CZcams funded journalist reporting against their competitor……nd well im all up for it ❤

    • @inkarabbit9780
      @inkarabbit9780 Před rokem +133

      Out here like an ex saying they're over the breakup but can't help chatting shit about you in the same breath every time

    • @PuzzleBox83
      @PuzzleBox83 Před rokem +2

      The issue is, it becomes propaganda at that point. For instance no one adds in the fact that nearly 50% of many of Twitches Content Creators' subs are from Prime. That is money that Twitch just gives the content creators. No one is paying for that other than Twitch/Amazon. If anyone thinks if Twitch goes away that Amazon Prime price will be lowered is naïve. Its just free money for Content Creators at the cost of Twitch which makes up for the 70/30 at CZcams.

    • @thomasandrewclifford
      @thomasandrewclifford Před rokem +5

      Hard not to when Twitch is imploding.

    • @williamrutherford553
      @williamrutherford553 Před rokem +4

      But also trashing CZcams, so fair is fair. He really doesn't seem like a CZcams plant.

    • @ljeans531
      @ljeans531 Před rokem +1

      Honestly, I think YT has been waiting for this, they are about to fix the chat, and take over again

  • @Emma-zc5jm
    @Emma-zc5jm Před rokem +348

    Honestly the fact that you can pause and rewind livestreams on CZcams really really sells it for me. As someone who doesn't chat very much, I'd honestly probably prefer if the other streamers I watch moved to CZcams
    Edit: if CZcams added something similar to a prime sub that comes with a CZcams premium subscription I feel like they could totally body twitch in like a year or two.

    • @sil_mang
      @sil_mang Před rokem +5

      The ad situation did it for me. Preroll adds PLUS 6-8 unskippable 15-30 sec ads is just fucking ridiculous. Worse than cable TV.

    • @venkaramon
      @venkaramon Před rokem +11

      CZcams also only shows 1 AD for a Livestream and it's at the start and you and you can skip. I have watched hundreds of hours of Livestream on yt and I have never gotten an AD mid stream meanwhile on twitch you enter a stream it shows 1 out 3 ads

    • @tasa98
      @tasa98 Před rokem

      I started watching rae during covid so i never knew that you can not rewind on twitch and when i tried to watch twitch streams after it was so weird and i couldn't get used to. I mean i still watched like few streamers but i deff liked more yt streams 😂

    • @fanshiko
      @fanshiko Před rokem +1

      when i wanted to watch the valorant champions games, i wentto youtube if i needed to pause or wanted to rewind if i couldnt find a VOD of it cause you can literally just rewind lol

    • @bailey5234
      @bailey5234 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, it's usually on for background noise and I pause frequently, kinda just feels like what tv was for adults 25 years back. So it's nice to not feel lost once I resume the stream.

  • @frankiecoss7141
    @frankiecoss7141 Před rokem

    I find one of their biggest issues with Ads is they treat it like the platform works like live television, where all the content is segmented and tailored around Ad breaks for suspense and other reasons or negate Ads entirely if it's Breaking News or an Emergency Broadcast. But that doesn't work for live streaming, the viewer can't pick back up where the "story" left off before the Ads started, so the viewer is now behind on what happened in the stream and the interactions between chat on streamer (that are integral to the live stream "experience") are now desynced. The way Twitch does Ads is disruptive to the vary thing that their platform is built around. I don't think Twitch will make it if they don't realize that and structure how they display Ads (at least in terms of mid-role Ads) on their platform around the "experience" of live streams.

  • @9999heitor
    @9999heitor Před rokem

    you playin with fire with these comentaries the last few days

  • @RobertthePwninatr
    @RobertthePwninatr Před rokem +927

    Swapping to CZcams streaming prolly your biggest mogul move of all time…

  • @WhoIsKryp
    @WhoIsKryp Před rokem +1733

    You know Ludwig is a content creator when he accidentally uploads the raw footage without color correction, lol

    • @SpaghettiBrainX
      @SpaghettiBrainX Před rokem +75

      @Thank me later 🅥 HAHAHAHA WHAT

    • @lexi_hana
      @lexi_hana Před rokem +215

      It actually blows my mind that he just turns on a camera and can just speak, with barely any slip ups at all, and talk about a topic fluently for 9-10 mins, no issue. I guess that public speaking degree did wonders.

    • @MrPog-doof
      @MrPog-doof Před rokem +65

      @@lexi_hana he isn't an English major for nothing

    • @Jonsey21ish
      @Jonsey21ish Před rokem +3

      You sure aren’t going to cover the fall of maya higa. Oh prolly because the person who was involved in a sexual assault cover up needs protection when it’s your girl friends best friend but I thought QT would of stuck up for sexual assault victims. Shifting blame from the real problem. Keep it up lud.

    • @jokerkenny1801
      @jokerkenny1801 Před rokem +28

      @@Jonsey21ish wow you're actually insane my guy.
      Shitting on someone because your moral compasses don't align makes one no different then those crazy bible preachers who go around to campuses saying "you're going to hell".

  • @esmevigil23
    @esmevigil23 Před rokem

    The thing with shorts is ads won’t be on all shorts just scattered throughout so it’s not ads for your short in specific so the split makes sense to me because you don’t have a guaranteed ad for all shorts like you do for posting videos

  • @vynniev9611
    @vynniev9611 Před rokem

    I'm imagining the contrast slowly going down throughout the video until it's just grey at the end

  • @maxscalzo4660
    @maxscalzo4660 Před rokem +1991

    I think the fact that Lud does these videos all in one take is a testament to his entertainment ability and camera calmness

    • @godaberi
      @godaberi Před rokem +7

      Most of these aren't in one take

    • @thatone5350
      @thatone5350 Před rokem +5

      How is it hard to talk to a camera for a few minutes? Anyone working that goes to meetings does the same thing every day in front of people, or into cameras at home.

    • @mystical8370
      @mystical8370 Před rokem +81

      @@thatone5350 it's hard.

    • @roserose6418
      @roserose6418 Před rokem +72

      @@thatone5350 Talking in meetings with other people vs talking basically to yourself at a lens are 2 completley different skills

    • @tv.joanne
      @tv.joanne Před rokem +1

      @@godaberi under the assumption lud’s not been lying to us about something so nonsensical, there majority of these are in one take, they’re not even edited, (if we are to believe lud.) its rather impressive.
      edit: punctuation

  • @GetMoneyMyrick
    @GetMoneyMyrick Před rokem +1659

    Literally told my buddies a week ago that Twitch feels one or two controversies away from going under. I had no clue what powers I was invoking.

  • @JerWittz
    @JerWittz Před rokem +1

    Love the almost black and white color grade

  • @007dvx
    @007dvx Před rokem +17

    loving how lud came out of 1980 to record this video. god send lud 🙏🏼

  • @Davi_L
    @Davi_L Před rokem +579

    The problem for Twitch now is that even if they reversed their decision this is going to make streamers ready to jump ship as soon as they can

    • @krogan3760
      @krogan3760 Před rokem +50

      Trust and loyalty are incredibly valuable, hard to get and easy to lose

    • @Jonsey21ish
      @Jonsey21ish Před rokem +1

      You sure aren’t going to cover the fall of maya higa. Oh prolly because the person who was involved in a sexual assault cover up needs protection when it’s your girl friends best friend but I thought QT would of stuck up for sexual assault victims. Shifting blame from the real problem. Keep it up lud.

    • @fibrosorthesecond
      @fibrosorthesecond Před rokem

      full video explanation footage +more adjectives found. Thank me later czcams.com/video/tmR3bNEDW80/video.html.
      edit:
      ignore this .there were a lot of bots in the replies so i just wanted to troll them. the link just links to the beginning of this video. dont click it.

  • @jotakuplays1536
    @jotakuplays1536 Před rokem +1053

    Meanwhile, CZcams is going to allow Shorts creators to use copyrighted music. If they did that cross the board on all their content (longer standard videos and live streams) then Twitch would pretty much be RIP.

    • @bman296
      @bman296 Před rokem +24

      That and if they got rid of all these bots

    • @deViant14
      @deViant14 Před rokem +4

      Yeah that would be great if the whole copyright framework in the US suddenly changed to allow that.

    • @WayTooAwesome
      @WayTooAwesome Před rokem

      Long form content is also getting the copyrighted music as well, though it will pull from the creator's revenue. IDK about streams

    • @alexfeels872
      @alexfeels872 Před rokem

      how are they allowed to do that though?

    • @gunawanputera6443
      @gunawanputera6443 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, idk about normal videos because the revenue of music company is big from copystriking people video (that why if you had like 5 sec of the song you get copystrike rightaway), but if they can do get lisensing the music for stream? Bruh twitch gonna die not because there no viewer but because why would you stream on twitch anymore?

  • @kylier404
    @kylier404 Před rokem +35

    As a viewer, I have always enjoyed CZcams streams more than Twitch, because of things like skippable ads, better FPS, and being able to rewind (also instant VODs that you never need to pay for.) While Twitch chat is way more _fun_ than CZcams chat, that's really it. Most of the other features that make Twitch good come from having to pay for it (like, Twitch Prime is awesome, but also, you have to be paying for the Amazon Prime account to get it anyway). So yeah I'm not really surprised that Twitch is taking more money from creators

    • @dexyyhs
      @dexyyhs Před rokem

      you can disable VHS and you're no longer able to rewind

  • @oscarcardenas3400
    @oscarcardenas3400 Před rokem

    you should watch philip defrancos video from tuesday about the youtube shorts. He interviews someone from youtube about it, and the youtube rep kept trying to dodge the question that the 45/55 split is AFTER they take out money to pay for the music licensing and other stuff

  • @shello912
    @shello912 Před rokem +875

    Every morning I wake up to a video from Charlie and a video from Ludwig about the latest Twitch drama. I first watch Charlie to wake up chill, make my coffee, feed my cat. Then when I've drank my coffee and am really powered up, I watch the more energetic version from Lud. It's perfect.

    • @MultiPerson555
      @MultiPerson555 Před rokem +26

      Lol this is exactly how my days have been too hahaha - I tip my hat to you, stranger!

    • @reiskoryphae
      @reiskoryphae Před rokem

      I agree 👍

    • @moudyy958
      @moudyy958 Před rokem +4

      Dude you just described my morning line by line just without a cat lol

    • @fibrosorthesecond
      @fibrosorthesecond Před rokem

      @Bully peter best video on youtube must watch or spongebob will come after you czcams.com/video/tmR3bNEDW80/video.html (mocking bots 2)
      edit:
      nvm the bot message was removed. the link just takes you back to this video. just ignore it

    • @AL-vf4lt
      @AL-vf4lt Před rokem

      Why the hell did so many of us all relate to this comment too hard

  • @IAmInsideYourWalls-wm9ek
    @IAmInsideYourWalls-wm9ek Před rokem +1381

    CZcams needs to capitalise on this, they could take so much of the twitch audience and streamers because of this it’s insane.

    • @lunarrvx
      @lunarrvx Před rokem +19

      And if YT made it a 50/50 split by default, even more people will come

    • @djweavergamesmaster
      @djweavergamesmaster Před rokem +65

      @@lunarrvx youtube has a 70/30 split by default, i think you've got the odds mixed up here creator 70 and company 30. this is the same split mentioned in twitch, however they went to 50/50, worse off for the creators, and then made them spam ads.

    • @justarandomguy3969
      @justarandomguy3969 Před rokem +15

      @@lunarrvx its actually mutch better on youtube. its a 70/30

    • @lunarrvx
      @lunarrvx Před rokem +3

      @@justarandomguy3969 70/30 youtube gets 30 or 70/30 you get 30 because my brain is small and i'm stupid

    • @lunarrvx
      @lunarrvx Před rokem +3

      @@djweavergamesmaster that makes more sense, sorry lol

  • @zankaa8031
    @zankaa8031 Před rokem

    Tbf the 10% extra cut for CZcams shorts kinda does make sense when you talk about the music licensing bc presumably CZcams shorts don't get demonetized for copyrighted audio

  • @matlmao3740
    @matlmao3740 Před rokem +2

    the teet thing definitely came from the latest yard premo guest lmao

  • @Wynnsanity
    @Wynnsanity Před rokem +4791

    I honestly think YT has a better streaming product now than Twitch. Twitch streamers hate the YT Live Studio because it's unfamiliar to them, but just like most things once you learn it then it's easy to do and navigate. I personally think the Twitch studio is confusing af because I never use it. The only annoying thing about YT streams are live thumbs, so if you change games or topics you need to change thumbs for consistency.

    • @OoLunar
      @OoLunar Před rokem +255

      No chance. For bigger creators, the CZcams live chat is too fast which makes chat unreadable. Also there's a notable lack of channel rewards. There aren't as many bots which help out either. Your point is valid if you're a lurker (someone who doesn't interact with the stream), but there's a huge difference if you're a chatter. I've used both Twitch and CZcams, getting familiar with both streaming services. However despite the lack of discovery, Twitch reigns supreme for the chatter experience.
      I respect your opinion, as it's pretty true if you only watch the livestream and don't interact with it much.

    • @ArDeeMee
      @ArDeeMee Před rokem +140

      CZcams is the only place I actually WATCH livestreams, and those channels don‘t seem to have any problems, so it definitely must be the former Twitch streamers‘ unfamiliarity. Which is their problem, not mine. You changing workplaces ALWAYS means changing routines. So cry me a river…
      And Twitch chat goes by just as fast as YT‘s, that‘s due to the NUMBER of chats/minute. All the Twitch chat windows I‘ve seen so far are actually SMALLER than YT‘s… go figure. 🤷‍♀️

    • @cks796
      @cks796 Před rokem +25

      @@ArDeeMee Not trolling here so don't take it as such:
      Is there some kind of explanation out there as to HOW CZcams Livestreaming works better than Twitch? The only reason I ask is I can search Twitch by category. For instance, if I wanted to watch a FFXIV stream or what not, I just look up that game on Twitch, sort by viewers, and boom, I can watch a smaller streamer, playing a game that I like, and interact with them. Is there something like that on CZcams or am I just one of those "Former Twitch Streamers" that doesn't know any better? :P

    • @jarrettath9636
      @jarrettath9636 Před rokem +68

      @@OoLunar You didn't just say "The chatter experience." No offense, but you might need to start prioritizing your life better and maybe touch some grass once in awhile.

    • @OoLunar
      @OoLunar Před rokem +9

      @@ArDeeMee once you've tasted first class, you never want to leave

  • @RomnysGonzalez
    @RomnysGonzalez Před rokem +707

    Low key
    Ludwig was the biggest and most important sign in CZcams history. Nobody had create more goodwill and promotion and selling of CZcams as a great platform for streaming.
    Ludwig is literally the golden child of CZcams who use as the perfect example for "Look. He's our kid!. Look how happy he's here. You can be as happy too with a better deal too. Come sign with us. Come stream on CZcams!"

    • @hmmmmm1175
      @hmmmmm1175 Před rokem +20

      Technoblade.

    • @tiredaf2711
      @tiredaf2711 Před rokem +1

      holy shit you're right

    • @grump3497
      @grump3497 Před rokem

      do you think hes not just getting paid out the ass to do it? lol

    • @RomnysGonzalez
      @RomnysGonzalez Před rokem +11

      @@grump3497 of course. He would be an idiot if he was doing it for free.
      The others CZcams signs don't do this. You don't see SIKEkuno,Boringrae,DrMustache,TimTheLameMan and the others do it. They came here, got the bag and don't even mention the benefits of being on CZcams, how this place is better and how streaming here is better.
      Ludwig is the only one who is looking like a great investment for CZcams. Great streamers, good content, E for everyone content appealing to all audiences while also promoting the platform on pretty much every occasion possible.
      Ludwig is earnings and working hard for that money. The rest of the signs?. Not looking like a good investment. Ludwig contract is the only one "paying" back to CZcams for the trust on paying him the massive contract.
      They don't promote the platform, they don't talk about it, they don't sell it to viewers. They just took the money and did nothing to make people be aware than streaming here is just better.
      I bet if CZcams can do everything over. They would sign Ludwig and let the others go.

    • @ev3635
      @ev3635 Před rokem +11

      correction: ludwig was the biggest and most important sign for youtube streaming history” not youtube history period. that would be creators like mr.beast, pewdiepie, markiplier, jacksepticeye, ect ect. :)

  • @georgemitchell7054
    @georgemitchell7054 Před rokem +1

    The thing you have to realise about the 45/55 split is that ads are played every FEW videos. Think about it like this, a content creator can make between $10 to $30 for every thousand people that watch an ad. Now let's say you apply that to shorts, where you'll probably have a short ad (5-10 seconds) every 4-7 videos, all of the sudden CZcams effectively paying up to 7x as much without getting more $ per and in the first place. It's not like CZcams is profitable to begin with, but keeping a 70/30 split would be like getting cancer & then trying to cure it with some MLM scam off Facebook.

  • @jonarkujo
    @jonarkujo Před rokem +1

    how he end the video looked like one of those scenes you see in movies when the person is panicking to turn off the video because a monster is after them lol

  • @its.justrain8005
    @its.justrain8005 Před rokem +177

    for anyone wondering why his camera is like that, the camera is filming in "flat" which is where the colors in the image are dulled out of camera but through color grading in post, you can enhance the image by a significant amount. Lud didnt bother to color grade it because almost all Mogul Mail videos are shot in one continuous take and use little to no editing.

  • @jamesketterer5990
    @jamesketterer5990 Před rokem +451

    Charlie and Lud just need to merge and make one drama channel, I go from Charlie’s to Luds every time

  • @normalcommenter8595
    @normalcommenter8595 Před rokem

    My only issue on youtube is the chat, but just make a live stream option next to theater mode wherein it just copies twitch and fits the stream to the whole left side and leaves a sliver on the right for scrolling chat.

    • @whatzittooyah9182
      @whatzittooyah9182 Před rokem

      The thing is Lud and his crew are working on that with their Truffle plug-in. Hopefully it’ll be available for all CZcams Live folks soon. They’re still testing it/using some streamer friends as guinea pigs for it.

  • @pandas_meow
    @pandas_meow Před rokem

    I work for an Amazon subsidiary and we use AWS... they do not give us as much of a discount as you might think :/

  • @cloouddyskyy
    @cloouddyskyy Před rokem +592

    as someone with really slow internet, i cant watch twitch. its literally IMPOSSIBLE, but on youtube i can watch streams no problem 480p

    • @sleepisthecousinofdeath7395
      @sleepisthecousinofdeath7395 Před rokem +11

      Living your life in the clouds? Do you get to the cloud district often? No didn’t think so. No wonder you internet is slow.

    • @ItsJustValHere
      @ItsJustValHere Před rokem +34

      Same. And if it ever freezes, I just watch at 1,25 and catch on again. I haven't log into twitch since last Streamer Awards and I'm so happy that the streamers I was interested in switched to CZcams!

    • @sethkang4410
      @sethkang4410 Před rokem +2

      I like youtube because i can watch other shit. Sure im not gonna get used to it but hey. Change is nice somwtimes

    • @WhoIsFishie
      @WhoIsFishie Před rokem

      Same.

    • @Shinigumi
      @Shinigumi Před rokem +64

      What makes it even worse, on mobile, it buffers like crazy for a lot of streams regardless of your device, mobile or wireless connectivity, etc. Like it's garbage across the board unless you're on a desktop/laptop, and then like you said, unless your internet connection is amazing, the buffering is either endless or you're lagging so far behind what's actually live that it's not worth it.

  • @elijahpelito4722
    @elijahpelito4722 Před rokem +551

    I imagined the Twitch office with fire around, people running around and paper flying everywhere while Lacrimosa by Mozart plays. Truly the end of times indeed

    • @radicallybean
      @radicallybean Před rokem

      bruh 💀 i had to look up the song and i had no idea that’s what the song was called 😂

    • @monkeman2259
      @monkeman2259 Před rokem +13

      twitch rn is that one spongebob with the office workers in his brain czcams.com/video/wTkOiME87Go/video.html

    • @gerardodelrio3778
      @gerardodelrio3778 Před rokem

      imagine it like the office scene from Have fun with Dick and Jane.

    • @forest3945
      @forest3945 Před rokem

      @@monkeman2259 I thought you were a bot for a second lol

    • @nicolem4253
      @nicolem4253 Před rokem +6

      yes lol , or the scene from spongebob where everything is on fire & there’s like 50 different versions of spongebob frantically running around in the flames with paperwork flying everywhere

  • @etan_6
    @etan_6 Před rokem +1

    Why did you upload the video without color correction? It looks like you just uploaded a RAW file. That being said, great video.

  • @Mcmuffinwaffle
    @Mcmuffinwaffle Před rokem +1

    Color scheme making this video look like a silent film.

  • @Sensei5am
    @Sensei5am Před rokem +538

    Man, Ludwig just laying out all this information is SUPER helpful. It gets content creators to prepare for the future. I honestly believe that YT is taking effort to cater more to streamers now and this is just the beginning of it.

    • @rhyonix4535
      @rhyonix4535 Před rokem +2

      Would be if this entire video wasn’t obviously copy pasted from someone else.

    • @Sergmanny46
      @Sergmanny46 Před rokem

      CZcams can suck it. They have done way too much damage to their people. And no amount of compensation will make them comeback.

    • @bouncyvenus
      @bouncyvenus Před rokem

      @@Sergmanny46 you sure?

    • @Bellicose
      @Bellicose Před rokem +1

      @@bouncyvenus CZcams has been paying millions of dollars to poach Twitch streamers and make them platform exclusive, yet when contract is over, almost all of them go immediately back to Twitch. It's never about the payout, it's about the interface and chat interaction. There's a reason Twitch keeps focusing on chat interaction improvements and new plugins. These changes will piss off streamers for a while, then nothing will change because viewers don't actually care. CZcams can keep poaching streamers, but it's the viewers they want and it's also the viewers they can't get. Nobody wants to come here and spam laughing emojis on a chat box with white background like a 40 yo soccer mom when Twitch have sh!t tons of emote extensions you can use.

  • @jackkelly9048
    @jackkelly9048 Před rokem +524

    These are topics I've no idea if I would care about at all if Lud weren't the one discussing them - his pacing, his inflection, and enthusiasm for these topics really makes these videos work

    • @kinggenderman1874
      @kinggenderman1874 Před rokem

      agree

    • @Jonsey21ish
      @Jonsey21ish Před rokem

      You sure aren’t going to cover the fall of maya higa. Oh prolly because the person who was involved in a sexual assault cover up needs protection when it’s your girl friends best friend but I thought QT would of stuck up for sexual assault victims. Shifting blame from the real problem. Keep it up lud.

    • @jackkelly9048
      @jackkelly9048 Před rokem

      @@Jonsey21ish im not lud, your tinfoil hat has been on for too long it's obstructing your critical thinking

    • @fibrosorthesecond
      @fibrosorthesecond Před rokem

      @Thank me later 🅥 czcams.com/video/tmR3bNEDW80/video.html

  • @adamt4864
    @adamt4864 Před rokem +5

    I tried to use twitch more often (and this is without ad issues) and the biggest problem i would have is the fact that its just impossible to watch old vods. whenever i discover a new streamer i like, i would want to go back and watch old streams of theirs so i can get a sense of any inside-jokes or an overall idea of how this streamer likes to do things. its just straight up impossible. watching the vods on youtube has just been easy to do and navigate to that i dont see how twitch could ever beat out youtube after this.

  • @lordmarum
    @lordmarum Před rokem

    This low contrast post processing strains my eyes.. y use my monitor at minimum brightness and this is almost like looking at just gray

  • @sirsmoothie8502
    @sirsmoothie8502 Před rokem +150

    The 45-55 split for shorts makes sense to me since a CZcams Short takes so much less effort to create than a full CZcams video that can be monetized. A CZcams Short is able to be viewed way more frequently than say a 10 minute long video. I say that CZcams is being generous to allow for the people who re-upload shitty tiktoks to make a few pennies.

    • @MrBytesized
      @MrBytesized Před rokem +12

      also they still get paid even with copyrighted music so youtube has to pay off the music rights

    • @calholli
      @calholli Před rokem +17

      From what I see on Philly D-- if you use music: The music people will take their money first, and then AFTER that, you split 45/55 with youtube from what is left. But they wouldn't be clear on how much the music was going to take from the pot. So not using copywrite music might be the play.

    • @MrBytesized
      @MrBytesized Před rokem +1

      @@calholli oh right, still good for copyrighted music nonetheless

    • @coolguy13
      @coolguy13 Před rokem +3

      If you think shorts takes less effort then youve just only been watching bad shorts. Length of a video does not equal effort at all times. Like how a cgp grey video has more effort than a hour long gaming vod.

  • @Bobe-eh7wk
    @Bobe-eh7wk Před rokem +112

    He actually recorded this in 1915 this was all just a prediction

  • @aud1out29
    @aud1out29 Před rokem

    i love that everything i don’t understand makes sense when ludwig explains it

  • @STATESZ
    @STATESZ Před rokem +2

    "CZcams is a bad livestream platform"
    Yeah no crap **(idk if i can even say the s word tbh in yt comments i feel like that shadowbans my comments on most channels)**
    I went and tried to figure out where i can find the livestreams to see something. Theres no option for "livestreams" in the sidebar (although i remember it being there a while ago), the category at the top with the bubbles for livestreams is only there if VERY RECENTLY (as in like a day or so ago) i watched a random livestream, that wasnt there, and i was just lost. couldnt figure out how to find livestreams so i just searched for live and got like NBC news or something.
    *somewhat related tangent:*
    I hate navigation on youtube so so much, and that goes deeper. I'd love to see content that isnt just my little bubble but the only way of watching youtube is either going down a little rabbit hole, clicking suggested videos from small youtubers on the side if it doesnt just give you the recommended there either, or watching whatever the home page gives you which is either so good you want to watch all of them or so repetitive and boring you want to watch none of them and keep scrolling but getting nothing.
    I have some ideas to solve the above issue by the way, im not sure if youtube would do it or if anyone else would even care cuz people have a life and dont just watch youtube all day like me so it doesnt really matter to them but i wonder if anyone would be interested in a 3rd party tool that does just that. aggregate video content from different websites in one place with a better recommended system that you have WAAAAAAAAAAY more control over basically... if that would be the meta it could also allow for more competition between platforms that are essentially monopolies like youtube and they dictate so many things about our lives and expression. but also to be fair even though many ppl complain a lot, its mainly alt-right content creators that are getting screwed over, rightfully so, they are basically just a big hatespeech group but yeah...
    thats for reading my TED talk.
    If you've come this far, im surprised why are you wasting your time reading some random yt comment but why am i wasting my time typing it out?
    anyways maybe i should turn this comment into a video and maybe it would blow up? nah the yt algorithm is unpredictable and you need to get some initial boost in order to be recommended, no matter how good your video
    FRICK im going on another tangent about this
    cya

  • @javlin8506
    @javlin8506 Před rokem +344

    twitch somehow managed to piss off every gambler on their platform which is a major category and every other regular streamer all in the span of 24 hours with some insane decision making

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před rokem +6

      Twitch decision making been insane for years at this point.

    • @alexanderlloydmendoza979
      @alexanderlloydmendoza979 Před rokem +17

      better to put all the controversies in one day rather than spread it out

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před rokem +1

      @whaaa t You're just a spammer, reported.

    • @Jonsey21ish
      @Jonsey21ish Před rokem

      You sure aren’t going to cover the fall of maya higa. Oh prolly because the person who was involved in a sexual assault cover up needs protection when it’s your girl friends best friend but I thought QT would of stuck up for sexual assault victims. Shifting blame from the real problem. Keep it up lud.

    • @Mc96P
      @Mc96P Před rokem +1

      ​@@Jonsey21ish Time to move on bro

  • @lilcrisis1779
    @lilcrisis1779 Před rokem +651

    Forget the sponsorship, Ludwig’s gonna be able to pay off all of Slicker’s scamming victims with this week’s Mogul Mail videos’ revenue alone

    • @symphonixblades
      @symphonixblades Před rokem +9

      He shouldn't pay anything to anyone as I mentioned before tho. That is just removing the punishment from the perpetrator which is Sliker and enabling him to continue scamming people since somebody will pay his debts for him anyway. What Ludwig and XQC are doing sure it's an act of kindness but it's the wrong act of kindness to do in this situation. They shouldn't pay Sliker victims like that they could do a charity event not related to Sliker and invite both Sliker and non Sliker victims to it or something similar to that, he wouldn't be paying other person debts but rewarding whoever wins the event for example

    • @ItsJustValHere
      @ItsJustValHere Před rokem +8

      All these controversies are making him work a lot. I picture him on vacation with QT and his phone just constantly blowing up with news to make a new mogul mail video lmao

    • @RageXBlade
      @RageXBlade Před rokem

      Here's hoping!

    • @lilcrisis1779
      @lilcrisis1779 Před rokem

      @yes thank you ur so real for that

    • @Goblino.
      @Goblino. Před rokem +1

      Hopefully he can squeeze it for a little more before it finally boils over. Gonna take a lot.

  • @tylerschweigert1940
    @tylerschweigert1940 Před rokem

    Incredibly scuffed. This is the content we need

  • @testypresidentgaming
    @testypresidentgaming Před rokem

    honestly i think it is fair to have the shorts percentage less than the video percentage. but great video and im excited for the shorts monetization coming

  • @alternativealan531
    @alternativealan531 Před rokem +218

    monochromewig

  • @holayeyo
    @holayeyo Před rokem +260

    the color grading goes crazy

  • @Aoredon
    @Aoredon Před rokem +1

    CZcams could beat Twitch as a platform if they made a homepage like Twitch has to view livestreams, had clips, all that etc and then rebranded it as something that's not CZcams
    but put like a button next to the CZcams logo to switch to the new service

  • @Unspoken04
    @Unspoken04 Před rokem +2

    My guy became greyscale

  • @THDAWIZERD
    @THDAWIZERD Před rokem +496

    Lovely period piece Lud, really avant-garde of you and I’m expecting an Oscar 👏👏👏👏

  • @on3punchd4ndy22
    @on3punchd4ndy22 Před rokem +128

    I love these subtle but consistent nods that he does to assure us he definitely feels like he made the right choice

  • @t17ab
    @t17ab Před rokem

    Problem with youtube shorts is that you tant put a 30 second ad in front of a 60 second video. So they use bumper ads(

  • @viol3tnebula872
    @viol3tnebula872 Před rokem +1

    Given it's nearing the end of September, I wonder if the announcement timing has more to do with placating shareholders just in time for the end of Q3 than anything to do with the current drama. In other words, Twitch made the announcement for the sake of trying to relieve shareholders who are pressuring them to become profitable. Just goes to show how tone deaf these corporate drones are.

  • @E-Brightvoid
    @E-Brightvoid Před rokem +121

    Ludwig starting out editing the Reads in the Twitch office, to officiating Twitch’s funeral. Ya fuckin love to see it

  • @josiejeen3289
    @josiejeen3289 Před rokem +22

    Moist and Lud are the two streaming news reporters, one that is stone cold and the energetic one.

  • @adityamohan4757
    @adityamohan4757 Před rokem

    You've picked up "teets" from Charlie lol
    I love it

  • @Cagiestt
    @Cagiestt Před rokem

    Bro made it look like an apology video

  • @maggieyang1108
    @maggieyang1108 Před rokem +81

    Man forgot to color grade

  • @painexotic3757
    @painexotic3757 Před rokem +152

    I feel bad for twitch employees knowing alot of them are gonna lose their jobs

    • @khalidhassan9423
      @khalidhassan9423 Před rokem +13

      at least they’ll finally see the light

    • @qsvui
      @qsvui Před rokem +7

      they make like 6 figures, they'll be fine

    • @Lucaz99
      @Lucaz99 Před rokem +20

      @@qsvui only the top brass makes 6 figures, not your average employee

    • @motodog242
      @motodog242 Před rokem +17

      @@qsvui I have a strange feeling you think anyone who works at Amazon HQ also makes 6 figures.

    • @prestonrasmussen1758
      @prestonrasmussen1758 Před rokem +5

      @@Lucaz99 an entry level software engineer at Twitch is making 200k a year on average. UX designers, product managers, data scientists, and engineering managers are making that much or more. The marketing managers, recruiters, and HR are also likely making over six figures. Upper management is also making well over 6 figures.
      Together these roles are at least 80% of the company

  • @Vorundor
    @Vorundor Před rokem

    What sucks about shorts on CZcams, when you go select a music to overlay on your vide, its not even the full 60 seconds.

  • @niceTry3000
    @niceTry3000 Před rokem

    A smart PR team would have swapped the timing on these two Twitch announcements. Announce the revenue share split change on the 20th, and then the gabling ban the on the 21st.

  • @shiina29
    @shiina29 Před rokem +241

    I pay for youtube premium and I have no ads on any videos I watch, so why would I ever pay for a Twitch subscription for just one streamer unless I watch them almost as much as I watch all of youtube? They should at least offer bundles, like subscribe to 3 or 5 or 10 channels for a discount.

    • @heyitsnobody
      @heyitsnobody Před rokem +1

      Twitch turbo exists if you just care about getting rid of ads, but twitch seems to try and hide it.

    • @neobeo1243
      @neobeo1243 Před rokem +1

      Twitch turbo seems to be what you’re looking for

    • @JRG9319
      @JRG9319 Před rokem

      There is twitch turbo, which removes ads, but you can only but that on the site itself, not mobile apps

    • @destin5103
      @destin5103 Před rokem

      They offer Twitch Turbo, it's like $8 or $9 a month for no ads on the entire site.

    • @kyxneko
      @kyxneko Před rokem

      you can pay for twitch prime which lets you have no ads on all streams

  • @Swif1y
    @Swif1y Před rokem +856

    I miss Ludwin

  • @TotalElipse
    @TotalElipse Před rokem

    Something important to note, the "45%" rev share on shorts is split between creators and record companies, they are yet to share exactly what the breakdown between them is.

  • @EDToasty
    @EDToasty Před rokem +1

    When twitch gave the "current market rate of AWS" as a justification, that's absolutely bullshit. Every service within Amazon (including twitch, a subsidiary) gets a significantly discounted rate for these web services. For example (not actual numbers, just positing), if it costs an outsider without a special deal $4000 to run a particular service, it might only "cost" an internal team $1000 to run the same service.

  • @liamt4894
    @liamt4894 Před rokem +67

    Damn Ludwig, I didn’t know you were filming a detective noir film.

  • @mysticat
    @mysticat Před rokem +58

    You know it's bad when Facebook Gaming is starting to look like an actual option..

  • @andrewbyrne8431
    @andrewbyrne8431 Před rokem +5

    28.6% pay cut is wild. Twitch is killing itself

    • @zee-vc5wl
      @zee-vc5wl Před rokem

      no its trying to survive. twitch is currently unprofitable. if it doesn't want to become mixer it needs to do this

  • @TheSkippyboy
    @TheSkippyboy Před rokem

    LUD forgot the LUT. Looking like a ghost. Love the content!

  • @Leo-ts4xk
    @Leo-ts4xk Před rokem +4

    Bros camera quality looks like the ones with the blanket you have to get under

  • @thatskykidfreya
    @thatskykidfreya Před rokem +121

    Actually I like the 40/50 split for shorts- it encourages people to still make normal videos so the website doesn’t turn into tiktok or Instagram

    • @calholli
      @calholli Před rokem +5

      From what I see on Philly D-- if you use music: The music people will take their money first, and then AFTER that, you split 45/55 with youtube from what is left. But they wouldn't be clear on how much the music was going to take from the pot. So not using copywrite music might be the play.

    • @GarryFPV
      @GarryFPV Před rokem +3

      Agreed. A short view is worth so, so much less than a regular view.

    • @limitless_valley
      @limitless_valley Před rokem +15

      What happened to the other 10%

    • @nicksttrs
      @nicksttrs Před rokem +5

      Shorts are so cancerous tho remember going to a channel and all he had was nothing but shorts with a 10 minute video sprinkled in. Not sure if thats big brain or he just lazy while still collecting a paycheck

    • @dezh81guy93
      @dezh81guy93 Před rokem

      the 50/50 does not affect ad rate or video format. it only affects wealth distribution from streamer to amazon.

  • @EerieChroniclesTV
    @EerieChroniclesTV Před rokem +1

    The fact that this video is on LOG without color correction makes me crazy 😂

  • @austinhenkel3569
    @austinhenkel3569 Před rokem

    Sigh. As someone who wanted to get into streaming this just makes me sad

  • @txhemi_6781
    @txhemi_6781 Před rokem +27

    Drama aside, I love how much this channel is killing it and how much content we’re getting. I’m not too interested in channels that talk about drama or news in this sphere, but Ludwig’s character and the way he presents it is so enjoyable. Keep it up dude 🤝🏻

  • @StaticKling
    @StaticKling Před rokem +13

    This has literally just become my twitch news channel. Much easier to keep in the loop of everything that's been going on.

  • @Ogi1
    @Ogi1 Před rokem

    no visuals in a mogul mail is crazy

  • @jd.1184
    @jd.1184 Před rokem

    That dynamic range looks pretty nice