And so it begins. I landed on disc golf content during COVID for no particular reason. 3 years and 30 discs later and I'm hoping the rain stays away today so I can hit the field and throw my arm out
Great commentary.. Very enjoyable and fluid.. Thanks for all the crazy amount of work everybody puts into this production. Getting better every year.. You guys appear incredibly knowledgeable.. Well done!
Okay, that one was actually the camera guy's fault. It's one thing to get hit in the head by an unexpected grenade shot, it's another to get nailed in the chest by a disc coming from the direction you're facing, and filming all the way into your chest.
Yeah that one was very avoidable. I have a feeling that guy is thinking what your saying repeatedly in his head. Learning moment. I think the issue is going to naturally resolve as much as it can with time and growing pains. Unfortunate though. If McBeth loses by one stroke we will all have to think about that shot
@@glousy8300 Agreed, and I'm definitely not looking to crucify the dude, we all make mistakes. As you say, good learning moment, and I'd even say fortunate that it was on that particular shot, as I really don't think it affected the score. Obviously wasn't there, but didn't look like McBeth's unobstructed shot would have resulted in a putt opportunity in any case, and judging by the reactions, no one else thought so either. I will say dude could have made a better effort to get out of the way. Sort of looked like he was more focused on getting the shot.
Camera guys shouldn't be nowhere near the fairways and baskets, but that's exactly where they are!!! I'm always wondering did the disc, that just landed on a camera guy's feet, hit him or his gear. Besides, IMHO those cameras don't really add any value to these videos; just shoot everything from where the players are throwing the discs, okay? Also, I find all the rewinds and what not unnecessary, as well, and the videos getting too long. I'm clicking 5s forward one to three times after each shot and I'm still not missing anything...
Why are cameraman dtanding along flight path. They need to stand on the outer banks. Do not need to be in a potential flight path. This is getting rediculous. This needs to get fixed.
Andrew Fish: Great commentator style! I love hearing your insights into holes and player’s shots. I also love that you’re confident enough to criticize the best players in the world when they make throws you think are ill-advised. I come away feeling like I learned something every time! Keep it up Fish!
How is that these camera men are standing in the exact middle of the fairway, either thinking they’re not in the way or thinking they can just dodge the discs? It’s honestly going to be a problem in the biggest moment during a final round sooner or later. And how can we pass of what happened to McBeth’s disc as “well, it wasn’t a guaranteed birdie” ….really? Terrible speculation.
people who wear sunglasses in my opinion can't be trusted, but wearing them when it isn't sunny, definitely some psychological issue going on. Ditto a hat and hoody. Have to assume luke has people after him, my guess would be some red neck religious cult he was apart of, possibly leaving a young wife and child.
Okay again with the camera guys. Look I get they're out there to do a job but standing in the middle of the fairway? Probably not the best place to be...
Simon's from Germany announced from Massachusetts his new home. Paul lives in Florida, announced from California, his hometown. Should you be announced from where you live or from where you grew up?
Ill keep commenting it until someone at DGPT sees it. Why have these top notch cameras that can zoom in like 1000x and then have camera men standing ANYWHERE close to a distance a player can reach? Stand WAY farther back and if the shot isn’t there…use the player cam shot and show the catch cam shot from angle. Why are you standing in the flight?! (Sam/Jeff Talking to you. Hiring off Nepotism instead of skill, knowledge, experience, references and merit)
Yeah and to add to that, when the camera has to spin around for a shot that goes past them, it makes for bad footage. I just wonder in this case if he wasn't standing there because of the slope. Like I'm not sure if he could have gone farther back without a raised platform. Either way he's gotta be more on his toes, that was just no good.
Camera man here. But not for disc golf. One answer could be: zoom lens is not a substitute for point of view. Cameraman have to place themselves in a spot that allows point of view of multiple flight paths, and in a place that will allow them to quickly maneuver to a new location. If the cameramen were to stand way off the fairway, it would be a very different look as well, one you would not enjoy watch as much. It’s easy to manage all these things, but there have certainly been times when the camera people were clearly is terrible spots.
Exactly. The view from where the players are throwing the discs is the best. But use the zoom to keep the disc visible. See how it's done in golf. If the disc goes behind trees and such it's OK. No need to have 10 cameras all over the place. One more thing: if the disc is moving left to right in one shot, and right to left in another, you are doing it wrong!
@@5th-Season I’m a camera man too. But they have the Drone now, catch and tee cam. Not standing directly in the ideal flight and/or just standing farther back is not a tough ask.
As if we needed any more reasons to dislike DGPT, here we see another display of how much care they put into what they do regarding player relations. Which btw is zero. They just want their views and money...which would be fine if they STAYED THE HELL OUT OF THE FAIRWAYS
I love that Simon is so controlled these days, but since I spent time with him in 2015, he continues to use what I call "concentration tongue". I did this as a child, and was teased over it, so I learned not to fairly quickly. I guess no one ever teased Simon, because he was always a lot better at [activity name] than anyone watching him. :)
Keep dogs out of disc golf entirely. 2 weeks ago mid tournament game, a dog picks up my disc and starts walking it back to me. Didn't get too far and I still made the upshot. But I was furious lol.
6:30 lets settle this point YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE LINED UP WITH TARGET like all these video like dr. spin or other gurus talk about this IS the scenario you have to throw to the right but the pin is to the LEFT and by throwing right and high you spike hyzer back to the left ffs this can not be argues some holes positions or trees in front of holes REQUIRE you to throw opposite direction of the hole ffs cant argue this
pp will comment on here theyre lined up with their target which is the gap FINE thats different then being told one must line up their throws WITH THE BASKET .. there are times when you have to line up the GAP and let the disc angle get you to the basket but the point is INSTEAD of saying always line up to the basket instead say always line up to the GAP youre trying to hit bcuz if you hit that gap your disc will get to the target!
Hey buddy did you know literally any goofball can make a YT channel about disc golf basics? I mean look at Danny Lindahl. Dude was like 900 rated at best....Was basically Dynamics posterchild. Maybe dont look up YT videos to try and fix form.
You could tell Mcbeth was upset when he made the last upshot cause he didn't even try to make it look good, lol. In all seriousness though, I hope the cameraman learns from the experience or does something else. I'm sure it's hard to pay complete attention when you not only can barely see them throw from afar. But also, you're supposed to make sure you get it on camera, so it's probably easy to get distracted on the importance of watching then forget the moving away lol. The job itself is like others' difficulties and we should welcome seldom mistakes for learning purposes. The problem is when this involves pro level events. Although that mistake probably won't hurt Mcbeth or the corporations running the event, film crews, etc (maybe the guys chest). Imagine it being someone who is less known as Mcbeth in this same instance though. Realistically, every event is of the up most priority because you never know when you might play near or at the top of the field. It's just really hard nowadays cause everyone's really good. So to be lost your fair chance, you might not get to meet your goals, profitable worth, or may even be sad or mad. Now, I don't think these things are super affected. But a lot of these people basically invest their whole current lifestyle to make it their craft in a sense. And when your craft can't be seen for all its glory because others accidents it shouldn't be a bad thing if it was truly an accident. However, if it ever got to a point where it was almost sabotage or neglected to do a job, I think they should be fired or moved to a different position. There's just too much on the line for these guys and whether people think they just have it easier because they are on your TV. Then you're probably right, but not always. Ig the main thing anyone should ask themselves before they try to do anything is: am i willing to take responsibility for my mistakes if i fk this up somehow? Thats probably the best way to know if you are ready for something.
@Adamantium what's the service? What's the owner's disability? Just wondering, since several people seem to know "it's a service animal". I'm calling BS.
In ball golf do they have out of bounds behind the greens? Then why make it in disc golf? Out of bounds right behind the green is so dumb in my opinion. It makes the approach shot harder then it needs to be. And then punishes good shots when the person is putting for birdie or par as well, if they miss and go long. It feels unnecessary and should be removed in my opinion from most courses. Let the people have a putt and not worry about going long and hitting a random unnecessary OB line that's just put there to make the putt harder.
Why are cameramen in the intended fairways and lines? This was equivalent to seeing Lebron James blocked out by the mascot and made a mockery of our sport. FIX IT PLEASE
I clicked on the video wondering that it's been a while since I watched Gatekeeper coverage. Then I heard Queen's voice. I'll be back next year to see if you've finally gotten rid of him.
I’m sorry but to make deal over a dog wagging it’s tail during a putt is a tad over dramatic. The more this sport grows the more fans there will be. It will simply get to the point you can’t hold the game up because you see something in the crowd you don’t like.
Just clicked on the video knowing nothing of the game but looked fun, guess I have to watch whole video to understand about the game .
And so it begins. I landed on disc golf content during COVID for no particular reason. 3 years and 30 discs later and I'm hoping the rain stays away today so I can hit the field and throw my arm out
So excited to welcome you to the community!! The only thing you will continue to regret, is not finding it sooner! Like myself..lol
If Lizotte is on overage, I watch. Sorry Jomez, but I’m starting with Gatekeeper today! Lol
Great commentary.. Very enjoyable and fluid.. Thanks for all the crazy amount of work everybody puts into this production. Getting better every year.. You guys appear incredibly knowledgeable.. Well done!
Classic Simon - miss a putt, immediately shoutout MVP
32:27 for camera man action
That specific camera guy looked to be standing in pretty vulnerable positions on multiple holes this course.
Okay, that one was actually the camera guy's fault. It's one thing to get hit in the head by an unexpected grenade shot, it's another to get nailed in the chest by a disc coming from the direction you're facing, and filming all the way into your chest.
Yeah we need to get these guys out of the middle of the Fairway somehow.
It’s gotta be a rookie camera man. He was probably thinking, I’m 400 feet away, no way a skinny dude and throw a frisbee this far 😂
Yeah that one was very avoidable. I have a feeling that guy is thinking what your saying repeatedly in his head. Learning moment.
I think the issue is going to naturally resolve as much as it can with time and growing pains. Unfortunate though. If McBeth loses by one stroke we will all have to think about that shot
@@glousy8300 Agreed, and I'm definitely not looking to crucify the dude, we all make mistakes. As you say, good learning moment, and I'd even say fortunate that it was on that particular shot, as I really don't think it affected the score. Obviously wasn't there, but didn't look like McBeth's unobstructed shot would have resulted in a putt opportunity in any case, and judging by the reactions, no one else thought so either.
I will say dude could have made a better effort to get out of the way. Sort of looked like he was more focused on getting the shot.
Camera guys shouldn't be nowhere near the fairways and baskets, but that's exactly where they are!!! I'm always wondering did the disc, that just landed on a camera guy's feet, hit him or his gear. Besides, IMHO those cameras don't really add any value to these videos; just shoot everything from where the players are throwing the discs, okay?
Also, I find all the rewinds and what not unnecessary, as well, and the videos getting too long. I'm clicking 5s forward one to three times after each shot and I'm still not missing anything...
I suggest as a rule an optional rethrow if your disc hits a person or animal.
Why are cameraman dtanding along flight path. They need to stand on the outer banks. Do not need to be in a potential flight path. This is getting rediculous. This needs to get fixed.
Andrew Fish: Great commentator style! I love hearing your insights into holes and player’s shots. I also love that you’re confident enough to criticize the best players in the world when they make throws you think are ill-advised. I come away feeling like I learned something every time! Keep it up Fish!
Poison ivy gets a nice close up in the peaceful outro montage. 35:10
Solid tee pad on 1 this year at least.
Whats the shirt brand Paul is wearing? Want one asap!
This is my favorite tournament to people watch. Some interesting folks out in Arkansas😂😂😂
Need a spotter out there that can help spot discs and also let the cameraman know when he’s going to be hit
and of course, the spotter to look out for the cameraman-spotter!
And a spotter for the spotter.
The pen clicking
Hole 4, “boing” 😂😂
How is that these camera men are standing in the exact middle of the fairway, either thinking they’re not in the way or thinking they can just dodge the discs? It’s honestly going to be a problem in the biggest moment during a final round sooner or later. And how can we pass of what happened to McBeth’s disc as “well, it wasn’t a guaranteed birdie” ….really? Terrible speculation.
Unbelievable that that camera man couldn’t get out of the way.
What is the blue disc with black rim that Lizotte is throwing off the tee most times?
My go to reaction to getting drilled by a high speed driver is also to smile! So crazy! I thought I was the only one.
Robinsons shot on 8 was tracking.
Luke said in Disc Golf Jeopardy that he always carries a few D5's. Bag check in has determined that that....Was a lie. :p
😂
Really been digging the QueenFish commentary! Thanks for the coverage!
Wasn't hole 5 a par 4 in the past 20:00
cameramen gotta start wearing protective gear lmao
Why is Luke always rockin the sunglasses even w/o it being sunny? Always shredding the courses in style!
Cuz he is high :)
Got to hide those red eyes, man!
people who wear sunglasses in my opinion can't be trusted, but wearing them when it isn't sunny, definitely some psychological issue going on. Ditto a hat and hoody. Have to assume luke has people after him, my guess would be some red neck religious cult he was apart of, possibly leaving a young wife and child.
He’s baked
Once you start wearing sunglasses, you always wear them.
Why is mecbeth lining up different. The first putt I knew he was gonna miss cause he wasnt squared up to it. Straight the shoulders out mcbeth.
Gosh, Paul almost nailed the camera guy in the jewels. Dude get out of the way
Okay again with the camera guys. Look I get they're out there to do a job but standing in the middle of the fairway? Probably not the best place to be...
It’s called a star frame, not diamond frame.
Simon's from Germany announced from Massachusetts his new home. Paul lives in Florida, announced from California, his hometown. Should you be announced from where you live or from where you grew up?
I believe they get asked before where they prefer to have called out
Holy smokes that support Patreon thing in the bottom was super distracting, when watching simon putt. I love Nathans casting tho.
Ill keep commenting it until someone at DGPT sees it. Why have these top notch cameras that can zoom in like 1000x and then have camera men standing ANYWHERE close to a distance a player can reach? Stand WAY farther back and if the shot isn’t there…use the player cam shot and show the catch cam shot from angle. Why are you standing in the flight?!
(Sam/Jeff Talking to you. Hiring off Nepotism instead of skill, knowledge, experience, references and merit)
Yeah and to add to that, when the camera has to spin around for a shot that goes past them, it makes for bad footage. I just wonder in this case if he wasn't standing there because of the slope. Like I'm not sure if he could have gone farther back without a raised platform. Either way he's gotta be more on his toes, that was just no good.
Camera man here. But not for disc golf. One answer could be: zoom lens is not a substitute for point of view. Cameraman have to place themselves in a spot that allows point of view of multiple flight paths, and in a place that will allow them to quickly maneuver to a new location. If the cameramen were to stand way off the fairway, it would be a very different look as well, one you would not enjoy watch as much. It’s easy to manage all these things, but there have certainly been times when the camera people were clearly is terrible spots.
Exactly. The view from where the players are throwing the discs is the best. But use the zoom to keep the disc visible. See how it's done in golf. If the disc goes behind trees and such it's OK. No need to have 10 cameras all over the place. One more thing: if the disc is moving left to right in one shot, and right to left in another, you are doing it wrong!
Are ya listening JEFF!
@@5th-Season I’m a camera man too. But they have the Drone now, catch and tee cam. Not standing directly in the ideal flight and/or just standing farther back is not a tough ask.
P McB kunda looks like Brad marchand
DOG: oh wow? Birdie ? Where? Someone say birdie ? Oh wow where is birdie? Oh wow
Paul hasn't looked like "Paul" since the contract. Imo
Since his marriage contract in fact.
Also, that level is so hard to maintain forever, and the competition parity is really accelerating.
@ShawnSchulz women who want marriage are parasites that want your money and happiness. 😂😂😂❤
He’s definitely lucky he signed it when he did
Paul has for sure focus "scoring" other hole.
I'm kinda getting the urge to take out a cameraman. He'll just have to be inside of 15ft or it mat take a while.
When is disc golf going to get the camera people and spotters out of the way. Seeems like someone is getting hit with a disc every tournament.
As if we needed any more reasons to dislike DGPT, here we see another display of how much care they put into what they do regarding player relations. Which btw is zero. They just want their views and money...which would be fine if they STAYED THE HELL OUT OF THE FAIRWAYS
I love that Simon is so controlled these days, but since I spent time with him in 2015, he continues to use what I call "concentration tongue". I did this as a child, and was teased over it, so I learned not to fairly quickly.
I guess no one ever teased Simon, because he was always a lot better at [activity name] than anyone watching him. :)
This shouldn’t have to be said…. Don’t bring your dog to a DGPT event…..
Keep dogs out of disc golf entirely.
2 weeks ago mid tournament game, a dog picks up my disc and starts walking it back to me. Didn't get too far and I still made the upshot. But I was furious lol.
Standing in direct flight between the player and the basket is ridiculous. Something needs to change.
These cameramen are a joke
That God for Queen! 1,000,000 times better than Nate Perkins on coverage
First❤❤❤😂
Damn you
The jomez camera people are way more consistent
Might be consistent but they not first to show th3 action. Enjoy the content dude
6:30 lets settle this point YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE LINED UP WITH TARGET like all these video like dr. spin or other gurus talk about this IS the scenario you have to throw to the right but the pin is to the LEFT and by throwing right and high you spike hyzer back to the left ffs this can not be argues some holes positions or trees in front of holes REQUIRE you to throw opposite direction of the hole ffs cant argue this
pp will comment on here theyre lined up with their target which is the gap FINE thats different then being told one must line up their throws WITH THE BASKET .. there are times when you have to line up the GAP and let the disc angle get you to the basket but the point is INSTEAD of saying always line up to the basket instead say always line up to the GAP youre trying to hit bcuz if you hit that gap your disc will get to the target!
Hey buddy did you know literally any goofball can make a YT channel about disc golf basics? I mean look at Danny Lindahl. Dude was like 900 rated at best....Was basically Dynamics posterchild. Maybe dont look up YT videos to try and fix form.
Spoiler 🛡
Go ahead and tell me another sport that would let this many cameramen get in 'harms way', lets say, and do nothing about it to fix it.
baseball football basketball, i don't think you know what you're talking about
How about camera men don't stand right in the middle of the fairway. Smh
Automatic bogey for Simon for making the dog move.
no.
@@EinzeltonTV yes
It was me, and he's a service animal for anyone wondering
If you’re a professional complaining about a dog potentially messing up your putt then maybe you shouldn’t be a pro lmao
@@beatbox20fmj DQ him if it's a service dog then.
You could tell Mcbeth was upset when he made the last upshot cause he didn't even try to make it look good, lol. In all seriousness though, I hope the cameraman learns from the experience or does something else. I'm sure it's hard to pay complete attention when you not only can barely see them throw from afar. But also, you're supposed to make sure you get it on camera, so it's probably easy to get distracted on the importance of watching then forget the moving away lol. The job itself is like others' difficulties and we should welcome seldom mistakes for learning purposes. The problem is when this involves pro level events. Although that mistake probably won't hurt Mcbeth or the corporations running the event, film crews, etc (maybe the guys chest). Imagine it being someone who is less known as Mcbeth in this same instance though. Realistically, every event is of the up most priority because you never know when you might play near or at the top of the field. It's just really hard nowadays cause everyone's really good. So to be lost your fair chance, you might not get to meet your goals, profitable worth, or may even be sad or mad. Now, I don't think these things are super affected. But a lot of these people basically invest their whole current lifestyle to make it their craft in a sense. And when your craft can't be seen for all its glory because others accidents it shouldn't be a bad thing if it was truly an accident. However, if it ever got to a point where it was almost sabotage or neglected to do a job, I think they should be fired or moved to a different position. There's just too much on the line for these guys and whether people think they just have it easier because they are on your TV. Then you're probably right, but not always. Ig the main thing anyone should ask themselves before they try to do anything is: am i willing to take responsibility for my mistakes if i fk this up somehow? Thats probably the best way to know if you are ready for something.
Dog people, smh
It's a service animal, piss off
Cry some more.
@@beatbox20fmj So what.
I agree, dog people dont think about -ish.
@Adamantium what's the service? What's the owner's disability? Just wondering, since several people seem to know "it's a service animal". I'm calling BS.
In ball golf do they have out of bounds behind the greens? Then why make it in disc golf? Out of bounds right behind the green is so dumb in my opinion. It makes the approach shot harder then it needs to be. And then punishes good shots when the person is putting for birdie or par as well, if they miss and go long. It feels unnecessary and should be removed in my opinion from most courses. Let the people have a putt and not worry about going long and hitting a random unnecessary OB line that's just put there to make the putt harder.
WORST CAMERA HIT EVER. WTF???????????
Why are cameramen in the intended fairways and lines? This was equivalent to seeing Lebron James blocked out by the mascot and made a mockery of our sport.
FIX IT PLEASE
I clicked on the video wondering that it's been a while since I watched Gatekeeper coverage. Then I heard Queen's voice. I'll be back next year to see if you've finally gotten rid of him.
Dustin was cringe worthy last year. Couldn’t even listen
Nathan sounds like your semi drunk uncle which explains who hurt you.
Be gone, weenie!
@@SATX_ Queen sounds like he's reading me a bedtime story, disc golf coverage just isn't what I watch to fall asleep.
I'll take nathan queen's commentary over Brian's every day of the week
I’m sorry but to make deal over a dog wagging it’s tail during a putt is a tad over dramatic. The more this sport grows the more fans there will be. It will simply get to the point you can’t hold the game up because you see something in the crowd you don’t like.
Naw man, you pay to watch these events, you sit still for putts. And your f***ing dogs.
Stop bringing your dog to professional sporting events. Do you see Luke Humphries with his dog? Only at skins matches.
Service animal not a "dog", stop discriminating
Much rather dogs at an event than a “adult” that whines like a child.