Love the whole philosophy of Kinetic! It would be great to start seeing some footage of the mechanical areas and storage spaces on board the 54...these are the spaces that set a true world voyager apart from others. Don't get me wrong, a beautiful salon is great...but I'd rather have a well laid out engine room!
How about warranty claims, do owners have to go direct to 3rd party companies i.e B&G, engine builders etc, or do you direct builders to do the warranty claims, there is numerous horror situations where new owners go through years of claims follow-ups where nothing happens, most recently Leopard and Neel. Please explain how you (amd owners) handle warranty claims, because there will always be some, unavoidable, everyone knows that. Thanks
Kinetic use to be Harvey Yachts. They built what is now KC62-01 for Bob, who is now an owner of Kinetic. He enjoyed the build process so much he decided to buy the yard from Harvey, as he was looking to retire.
We'll be bringing out a video in the near future with Bob Hayward (CEO and partner) where he discusses the history of Kinetic and how everything came about!
I like the aestetic, but the Titan disaster showed us how poorly carbon fiber works under the water line. I wouldn't even want the sink to be carbon fiber.
No, I'm not. Carbon fiber laminates aren't like fiber glass laminates. Delamination of the carbon fiber will occur over time because water will penetrate and separate the fibers from the epoxy. You can't keep carbon fiber submerged without causing structural damage. Race boats made with carbon fiber are discarder after a few races-- they start to gain weight from the water absorption and become less safe. To make production boats using carbon fiber above the waterline is a great idea. Below the waterline, and your buying something very expensive that even if well maintained, will fail faster than steel, aluminum or fiberglass boats.
@@valorianbronze2683 That`s why you don`t have a open carbon structure. You cover it with different layers of paint to keep the moisture out. You absolutely can`t compare a surface vessel with titan. The water pressure increases by 1 bar for every 10m of depth. Titan's cell was thus loaded with up to 380 bar during each deep dive. This led to micro-cracks into which the liquid could penetrate. A draft of 1.5m increases the ambient pressure from 1 bar to 1.15 bar. A good paint layer structure will keep every moisture out.
But not for very long, and that's the problem. Half a mm of paint will resist, but not stop water intrusion. We're not talking about a theoretical craft. We're not talking about boats that are used in the water an hour and then drydocked and stored in a dry environment the rest of the year. Boats exist in the real world get bumped and abraded. Unlike fiberglass, carbon fiber is hydrophilic. Because the carbon fiber is more attracted to the water than it is to the epoxy resin, there will penetration by water, and that will result in delamination. It won't happen in a day, but it will slowly happen. Right now carbon fiber hull boats are new. They are the bright shiny objects shipyards are dangling in front of us because cf is strong and light weight, and that translates into speed. But if used year-round in water, the lifespan of cf boats will be shorter than other hull types, and buyers should be aware of that.
Lecker man , as my saffer mates say!
How can you not love this bloke? I`d love to have a pint or two with Leon !
@Bert - when you're in town, pop in and I'll take you up on that one :)
Beautiful, Wonderful, Great Vision. There isn't much else that you can say. You're Just Doing It Right ! 💚
Amazing team for an amazing Cat!
Love the whole philosophy of Kinetic! It would be great to start seeing some footage of the mechanical areas and storage spaces on board the 54...these are the spaces that set a true world voyager apart from others. Don't get me wrong, a beautiful salon is great...but I'd rather have a well laid out engine room!
Gorgeous catamarans, I hope to be a good enough sailor one day to justify buying one!
Amazing presentation, maby we look closer. Thanks!
Impressive ... I wish I had more money...
Yes me aswell!!!
Lovely ethos x
Any plans for a smaller model with the forward helm maybe in the 40 to 50 feet range?
Will you guys consider shaft drive ??
How about warranty claims, do owners have to go direct to 3rd party companies i.e B&G, engine builders etc, or do you direct builders to do the warranty claims, there is numerous horror situations where new owners go through years of claims follow-ups where nothing happens, most recently Leopard and Neel. Please explain how you (amd owners) handle warranty claims, because there will always be some, unavoidable, everyone knows that. Thanks
Any brokerage on the marketplace?
What’s the history of Kinetic?
Kinetic use to be Harvey Yachts. They built what is now KC62-01 for Bob, who is now an owner of Kinetic. He enjoyed the build process so much he decided to buy the yard from Harvey, as he was looking to retire.
We'll be bringing out a video in the near future with Bob Hayward (CEO and partner) where he discusses the history of Kinetic and how everything came about!
@@kineticcatamarans - Look forward to that one
Who pays for commissioning the boat?
Unlike some yards, we do (Kinetic)
I like the aestetic, but the Titan disaster showed us how poorly carbon fiber works under the water line. I wouldn't even want the sink to be carbon fiber.
You must be joking, right?
No, I'm not. Carbon fiber laminates aren't like fiber glass laminates. Delamination of the carbon fiber will occur over time because water will penetrate and separate the fibers from the epoxy. You can't keep carbon fiber submerged without causing structural damage. Race boats made with carbon fiber are discarder after a few races-- they start to gain weight from the water absorption and become less safe. To make production boats using carbon fiber above the waterline is a great idea. Below the waterline, and your buying something very expensive that even if well maintained, will fail faster than steel, aluminum or fiberglass boats.
@@valorianbronze2683 That`s why you don`t have a open carbon structure. You cover it with different layers of paint to keep the moisture out. You absolutely can`t compare a surface vessel with titan. The water pressure increases by 1 bar for every 10m of depth. Titan's cell was thus loaded with up to 380 bar during each deep dive. This led to micro-cracks into which the liquid could penetrate. A draft of 1.5m increases the ambient pressure from 1 bar to 1.15 bar. A good paint layer structure will keep every moisture out.
But not for very long, and that's the problem. Half a mm of paint will resist, but not stop water intrusion. We're not talking about a theoretical craft. We're not talking about boats that are used in the water an hour and then drydocked and stored in a dry environment the rest of the year. Boats exist in the real world get bumped and abraded. Unlike fiberglass, carbon fiber is hydrophilic. Because the carbon fiber is more attracted to the water than it is to the epoxy resin, there will penetration by water, and that will result in delamination. It won't happen in a day, but it will slowly happen. Right now carbon fiber hull boats are new. They are the bright shiny objects shipyards are dangling in front of us because cf is strong and light weight, and that translates into speed. But if used year-round in water, the lifespan of cf boats will be shorter than other hull types, and buyers should be aware of that.