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Christopher Yuan - A Christian Response to Homosexuality
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- čas přidán 1. 10. 2019
- Sexual identity is one of the most relevant topics of our day. We all
know someone who identifies as gay. How can Christians better engage with our loved ones and friends in the LGB community? How does the gospel (sin, repentance, and redemption) shape our understanding of sexuality? Without any compromise of truth or grace, Dr. Christopher Yuan combines his life experiences and his theological training in biblical languages to bring a fresh and unique perspective on this important topic.
His comment, "God's unconditional love is not the same as unconditional approval of my behavior," was profound!✝️
"God's unconditional love is not the same as unconditional approval of my behavior." Amen
"The ultimate issue is not whether I'm tempted or I'm struggling but whether I yearn after God."
So true. God absolutely loves each of us, and He does not love everything we do.
I am so thankful that He loves me no matter what I do.
@@cwp2614 Remember that the goal is rightrousness unto holiness. As the speaker said, Be holy as I am holy.
God's love is so unconditional. That He sent His Son to saved us from our sins.
After listening to Dr Yuen, i am more compassionate towards the homosexuals, the parents of wayward kids, the Singles and the Marrieds….. everyone has their own struggles. This Sermon actually liberates my love for people …. I like the part ‘body of Christ should be a safe place.’
Very thoughtful and caring
It's so weird that you need someone to tell you to be compassionate towards people who aren't doing anything wrong, towards you or in general. Who even taught you to lack compassion towards other people based on some aspects of their lives?
@@ocvetkovic3130 Their parents. Their friends, their family, their influences. Not everyone is aware enough to question deep seated predispositions within their own lives.
@@sethgleason7611 it amazes me that they don't see it
@@ocvetkovic3130 listen to this video again.
This man is amazing. God bless him for his honesty and bravery.
Gays can't have sex. The DIGESTIVE TRACT does not qualify as sex. Only sex organs can engage in sex. You must have the union of male and female sex organs for sex.
Gays use sex organs inside digestive tract. That by definition is not sex. THIS IS SODOMY
This was very helpful and insightful. Thank you so much, Dr. Yuan.
I'm in tears, just crying for the relief of hearing this message. I've been gay my whole life and an athiest too. But I came to Christ a year ago. I've been so devastated about being alone the rest of my life. Your message gave me hope, and has helped tremendously. I have felt so incredibly alone in this struggle, and I finally feel like someone understands. You actually get it, like really get it. Thank you Christopher for pointing me back to Christ.
You are loved. By Jesus and me, your Christian brother. I have never had this struggle but I have had my own, different struggles. You CAN have community, friends, and love (even if it isn't romantic). Love you and stay strong!!!
I spent 4 years in the struggle before getting a crush on the opposite gender, you got this. God restores and heals, and He can repurify your mind if you are willing to let Him go through the sometimes uncomfortable process on you.
Rosaria Butterfield (The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert) and Becket Cook have amazing, heartwarming stories as.
All 3 of them on you tube are wonderful to listen to.
God bless you.
I am listening to this slowly and even backing up at times so I won’t miss it. This is answering many questions about which I have asked God for answers. This is my answer.The more the Word and the Spirit causes me to see myself with all my sins, the greater His grace becomes.
I've never listened to someone speak my own heart.....thank you God for showing me this 🥲.... I'm tired of trying to convince myself and others that a gay man can be ok with just Jesus...so eloquent and loving a video!
Yes 🫂💗🫂
I just love God's sense of humor! Here's Christopher throwing his Dad's bible in the trash and here's God having Christopher pull another bible out of the trash years later :)
I was wondering if anyone else noticed the irony.
God's timing is AMAZING!
I noticed that too.
You must "go back" to the place you fell, & repent.
That was the single best presentation I've ever seen on this topic.
this is the best explanation of i have heard in recent years, in explaining the best Christian response to this topic. thank you.
Thank you Dr Yaun. As a Christian parent I have prayed and struggled. I have always tried to show my love and never been judgmental. He was raised in Christian home so he has struggled and doesn’t believe as he did as he feels God made him this way … “why would he make me this way if he loved me” It tears you up seeing your child suffer. This has really helped and given me comfort and answers. Identity… that’s not the entirety of who he is. New prayers will be going up in light of the wisdom you have shared. Bless you Dr. Yuan🙏🏼
Homosexuality comes from adults around a child,
@Museau Moustachu no Johns Hopkins and ot hers say no one is born this way
@Museau Moustachu so how come people revert if born a homosexual,this would be impossible,on CZcams there a lot who have
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There is a lot of gay people that are forced to pretend they are straight
There is a lot of bi people who were in a gay couple and then broke up and remarry with an opposite-sex partner
There is a lot of straight people that came through a questionning phase and then find out they are straight
All these people are considered as "ex-gays"
But none of them are
Just support and love your child. Homosexuality is not a sin. We pick and choose what we wish to be sin. The Bible was used to support slavery of African Americans as well, did the Bible change? No our interpretation of the text changed. This has been happening since the Inception of the Bible.
Excellent thanks for showing us how to love more purely and to consider someone's pain outside our own box..
I thank the LORD for bringing you Into the light of His truth and love. God bless you!
This is so good! I’ve read his and his mom’s book “Out of the Far Country” and it is amazing as well!
BAM, thinking renewed. Thank you Lord, thank you Dr Yuan.
Thank you for your witness,Dr. Yuan. I have needed to hear your voice.
Brilliantly explained with such grace 🙏
I appreciate Dr Yuen's perspective, but when it comes to the wedding question, I just don't see how it can be acceptable to attend a gay wedding as a Christian. The entire purpose of a wedding, and the reception as well, is to celebrate the marital union. Simply being in attendance is a show of support for the union. Even with the example of in laws who aren't very happy about the wedding, at the end of the day, they attend because regardless of how they feel, they still want to show their support. But we should not be supporting gay unions.
So for me, I just don't see how I would ever feel like God is permitting me to attend s gay wedding, regardless of the circumstances. There are other ways to show that you love someone than to attend a celebration of their marriage.
I believe you are absolutely right. If God has forbidden homosexuality then we should not take any part in anything.that recognises, affirms or celebrates it. We HAVE to put God first even if we are rejected, judged, misunderstood, or despised for our obedience. Jesus was despised and rejected. We must not do anything that says that sin is ok or doesn't matter. That's encouraging people in their sin and deception. That isn't right and it isn't loving. "Woe to those who call good evil or evil good." (Isaiah 5 vs. 20).
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Thank you so much for this discussion. It's humbling and encouraging. Thank you for teaching us about how to show love inspite of our sin.
Thank you for sharing, very inspiring!
This was excellent!
What a wonderful message
Wow! I would have love to read your books.
This is so wonderful! God is so good, and so Holy, we cannot possibly believe that anything good can ever come from our sinful disobedience to His words.
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How inspiring! a very satisfying explanation obviously from the grace of God
I thank the Lord for Dr. Yuan, his parents and their amazing testimony which I believe will help encourage many parents and convert many souls struggling with the same issue. May the Lord continue to bless them and their ministry in Christ to save souls and further the kingdom of God.
This is exactly what I needed. Thank you. Praise God.
Thank you Christopher
Beautiful message ❤️
BRAVE PEOPLE TO PUBLICLY TELL WHAT OUR GREAT LOVING GOD HAS DONE. GOD BLESS THIS DAD MUM AND SON AND PROTECT THEM IN JESUS NAME.
Nobody listens to people who write like this. Fix yourself.
Amen, He's still in control and loves us all.
Jesus said a true Christ follower will be hated by the world. The more Christ like we become, the more those who are not striving for holiness will dislike us. Regardless, that is the goal. We pick our cross and still follow
That is right.
Those who love homosexuality hates Jesus.
Thank you Dr. Yuan. What an amazing witness 👏😍🙌
Thank you Dr Yuan,I am blessed by the message . I would like to check is any of your books or material translated into Chinese.
To the people who think that being gay is a choice, does that mean when you were young you could have chosen to be gay if you wanted to? If you answer no to that question, why would you think that someone else could choose to be gay? I honestly don't know why I am gay, but I do know that it had nothing to do with how my parents raised me. I was nowhere near a "momma's boy". I was actually much closer to my dad and spent more time with him than I did with my mom, and he treated me just like any "normaI" dad would treat his son. I was raised exactly the same way and in the same house as my older brother, who turned out to be straight. And I was never sexually abused when I was a kid. I never even knew anyone who was gay until I was 17. Nothing about my childhood was abnormal or out of the ordinary. If it were as easy as just being a choice, I would have chosen to be straight a long time ago, because the discrimination and hatred that many gay people face has tormented me for most of my life. Because of that, I still haven't accepted myself for being gay, unfortunately, from the time I knew that I was different when I was 7-8 years old, all the way up until today. I thank God that there are caring people out there who support and understand the LGBTQ community.
I believe you. I wonder what you think though about how dr yuan phrased things because i often think using " to be" isn't correct. It makes something ones identity when it could be seen as a temptation... and maybe make it easier to love oneself?
I also wonder about hormones because i did chemo
And it made chastity much easier
I went through something similar, raised in a two parent household with a straight older brother and we all went to church regularly. For YEARS I hated being gay and tried to pray it away because I was taught it was this horrible thing that god hated me for it, but no matter what I did it wouldn’t go away, it was just how I have always been. but as an adult I function just like anyone else would.
We don't choose our temptations, we choose our reactions: Whether we will resist temptation or succumb to it. You aren't alone. We all face temptations, but God does provide a way of escape. It is impossible to fight temptation by our selves.
I wish I can like this a thousand times! Praise God!!! Thank you for sharing your testimony!! God bless! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Amen!! Watching this so I can be more prepared to love on others.
Love this❣️✝️🙏🏻
The opposite of every sin struggle …is holiness. Wow
Thank you for this whole video, it is really helping me resolving for this question about how Christians should think about homosexuality people! We are looking for holy sexuality, not homosexuality nor heterosexuality.
how Christian should engage Homosexual 4 "C"s:
1. Commited ourselves have many different sins, humanity.
2. Consistant with sexuality, marriage is equivalent with single. (Assume single to be lonely, assume singleness needs to be fixed, holy sexuality)
3. Compassionate with unholy sexuality
4. Complete with what we communicate with others, tell them the Gospel
”What sorrow awaits you who are praised by the crowds, for their ancestors also praised false prophets.”
Luke 6:26 NLT
When I see little likes on a message and it’s relaying a message of Truth from the Bible, I know it’s a man I can listen to and encourage in the Lord.
What I mean is this man sharing his message deserves to be listened to sharing the word in truth
What a beautiful understanding of everything Jesus!!! Thank you so much!!! I'm still laughing in a way of the Bible you threw in garbage can ran to meet you back in prison! I also started reading Bible in jail! It was a cave like Elijah's! A good place!!! This is my 3rd talk I've listened to from you...😊😊😊
Excellent speaker,meaningful and feeling person who was able to get the message across so sincere and biblical ly
I just happened across this today and really needed it right now! I have been praying so hard for my gay son. He was raised in a strong 2 parent home & in a Bible believing & teaching church family. But after a year at college & 6 years in the military, he informed me that he is gay. He went back to college on the GI Bill, accomplished 2 degrees in 4 years & now has the job of his dreams. He's had a few relationships, but is not highly promiscuous. It's not that he says he doesn't believe in a God anymore.... He is very anti God. Breaks my heart. And he will put anyone down in no uncertain terms if you don't agree with him about something. No concern for another person's feelings. In the past he was always giving & loving to everyone. No longer. And no allowance given for family or old friends. People walk on egg shells if they/we don't agree with him about something. Otherwise he's still fun to be & talk with. And we love him with all our hearts. I felt so broken on the day he brought me the Bible I gave him when he left for boot camp & said I could have it if I wanted it. Otherwise he was going to throw it away because HE sure didn't need it - he'd grown out of fairytales. 😢💔
He knows I am fully a Grace and Faith follower of Christ & accepts that. But he says snarky comments if I even mention praying or prayers answered, or having faith, etc. I'm not the preachy kind and he knows I pray for him. He thinks it's funny, but O WELL... I pray constantly anyway. 😊 You have given me hope & faith to keep praying & believing the Holy Spirit will do whatever is needed to manifest in his life. God bless you and your ministry.
You still love him? Tell him so
The “snarky comments” come from the fact that you believe that his love, the thing he cherishes more than anything in life, is sinful inherently. If my parents thought my nature was sinful dispite the fact that every mammal on the planet has shown homosexual behavior and a complete lack of evidence showing it is harmful I might make some jokes to lighten the situation too.
You are luck he even talks to you
Amén! What a testimony!!!
Oh boy what a nice video, I sure wonder what the like to dislike ratio is
I like this guy
This is one of the best messages I have ever heard. Praise the Lord for you Christopher, may the Lord continue to bless you.
I agree with you 100% Marie Jackson 😄
@Christopher Yuan, where can I get a copy of the pamphlet that explains that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality? I'd like to have a copy. What is the name of the pamphlet, or is it a book? Please let me know. Thank you and God Bless.
“The issue isn’t whether I’m tempted or struggling with something but the issue is am I yearning after God”. Soo powerful. Even with never struggling with homosexuality I ask too often struggled with others sin and it was often hidden bc it was in my heart not seen by others. But I knew it was there soo I’d struggle with guilt or fear of not really knowing God or am I really a child of God. But Gods kindness reminds me of his mercy over me daily and he reminds me to not focus in my sin but on Him and what holiness looks like in Him to live that out, rejoicing in goodness and not mine .
Focus on being Holy bc he is Holy.
32:39
This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.
1 John 3:16
This verse is for all Christians: either married or single ones.
Our identity is based in Jesus Christ alone…Praise God!
im single,AND IM SO LONELY!and u are correct,there isnt much to do for singles.i feel lost
Righteous man
Holy sexuality….God given, wow fantastic
So inspiring. No heart is too hard.
Just highlightening some truths:
35:56 "Holy sexuality is chastity in singleness and faithfulness in marriage."
39:25 "Change is not the absence of temptations... but change is the spirit [guided] ability to be holy even in the midst of temptations."
Thanks so much for this testimony!
Ultimately this guy can't understand what it would be like to just be celibate and single for the rest of your life because he's bisexual. Which is fine, but that's entirely different than being someone who just isn't attracted at all to the opposite gender. Someone who is bisexual can still have the hope of a partnership under these so-called guidelines, while someone who is homosexual would not. Completely different circumstances.
And he knows that too but is willing to use his being bisexual to discredit fully homosexual people to gain acceptance by his heterosexual colleagues
Thanks for your testimony. Now I know how to continue to pray for some of my children, grandchildren, & necessary & nephews. All of them are not lebians & homosexuals,but some do drugs & are incarcerated.
Lesbian and gay you mean
Iam not Anti Homesexual my brother was Gay and died of AIDS .Have known Drag Queens Transgender.Was in a lesbian relationship.But ihave yet anyone that was happy with in themselves.Having different partners.Since Jesus Christ found me ihave become celebrant.And feel happy since ihave Christ in my life .He gives you purpose and plans for your life .
Please correct the captions on this! There are so many errors, and some of them are even of the opposite of what is being said! Example: "faithless in marriage" ! I know that the program is hearing as a machine and not as a human, but that explanation isn't a justification. Please correct!
loved that comment about his Mom and the War Room story .. saw her photo's of her wall and had wondered ..
This lecture can be applied to any sin or sinner.
Even the religious folks and righteous, too.
amen
Jesus says we must take our Cross up and go every day
.we must forsake sin with our eyes towards our Father and King Jesus Christ..
God bless You my Brothers and Sisters in Jesus Christ. Amen..
Very basic common sense information from the Bible, what’s crazy about this is common sense is so so easily overlooked. Basics are so important.
wow, thank you , great when he said, Adam and Eve had a perfect father ( God ) and they still rebelled, what makes you think you as a parent can do better than God ?
Perfect dad? Why didn't he just throw out the snake and put a big fence around the tree. Easy. When your kid falls off the stairs you don't blame the kid, you blame yourself for not putting a little lockable gate there.
Eve and Adam were not kids. They were given instructions and free will to choose. Is the absence of temptations make God perfect?
@@DoubleYumDoubleHappiness They had zero life experience which essentially makes them kids in adult bodies. Knowledge requires time to amass. Comparing your 30 year old self to your 20 year old self should illustrate this point sufficiently. Then think of being a 6 month old in an adults body.. So yeah, I kinda screwed up there. But the cool thing about being god is getting to define morality! I guess that makes it subjective but I'm cool with that if it means I get to perpetually shift the blame!
@@DoubleYumDoubleHappiness how were they supposed to know right from wrong when they didn't eat the fruit of knowledge? Only after they ate it could they differentiante that listening to god is "good" and not listening is "bad". God gave two weak, curios and clueless humans 0 knowledge, an impossible task of resisting something very tempting, let the devil into eden and then punished them for failing to listen to something they couldn't have known they absolutely had to to listen to. That makes 0 fucking sense
@@Maksie0 If God didn’t place the tree in the garden and allow the snake (the devil) in the garden, then Adam and Eve would have had no choice but to follow what God says.
What God wanted was for Adam and Eve to choose to love and listen to Him, not be forced into it. But Adam and Eve, like all of us, chose not to listen to God and disobey Him. This had consequences.
Like a child who is repeatedly told not to go to the top of the stairs without assistance, but does it anyway, it’s the child’s fault for not listening to good advice. This of course does not apply when the child doesn’t comprehend what they are being told. It would be then down to the parent to properly protect their child.
With Adam and Eve, they wouldn’t have been only a few months old. They were created as adults with adult brains and adult comprehension. When reading the creation story in Genesis, it is also highly likely that they would have lived many years in the garden of Eden before eating from the one tree God told them not to.
Well your Mather sure sounds vary Inspiring!
Haven’t listened yet but he must’ve said something right from there Bible bc he only has 2k followers after 4yrs posting this 🧐
In the last talk, I so appreciated the "victim" idea of the identity. It's made me so scared because victims always make me feel I have to let everything they say be right because they have nothing to do with it. "How can God make me with these desires". Also, perhaps love always has to jump over our feelings and desires!
This is an amazing teaching!!!! Thank you for being clear about all sin and that Christ is the answer!!!
We all need to pursue holiness and and chose Christ always. Live in humility and allow Him to shine through us so others can want to know and love Him and receive the gift of salvation!!!!
How can I contact Dr. Yaun?
Pray and god will send you a divine walki-talkie
Spend lots of time with the BEST FRIEND EVER! JESUS. PEOPLE COME AND GO AND GET ALL SWITCHY BUT GOD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER MORE.
Even if you are Gay you don’t have to make it your identity. I am Gay and I don’t make it my whole identity.
@Museau Moustachu no they often make it their whole identity because of other people
You already did make it an identity by using the statement "I am". You can say I have same sex attraction.
100%
It's 2024 everyone's identity is what they lead with now. To be same sex attracted isn't even enough now. You must be multi gendered, no gendered queen bi pansexual poly amorous etc. Your sexuality is your social currency now.
Great information to think about.
How amazing that after he had thrown his dad's Bible in the trash years before, then in jail he finds a Gideon's New Testament in the trash! 10:53
God is so good
What a great talk. Thanks. We are all sinners, but we are not alone if we choose not to be.
Its not a choice
What's not a choice? Every day, we are forced to confront the big question. How much of our behavior is programed, and what can we really control? True, our tendencies to be or think about being gay may be innate, just as are our tendencies to chase women or gamble, or to get drunk. But to imply that you're helpless to stop abusing pets or children and just can't help cheating on your taxes strikes most of us as hollow. The lies we tell ourselves are the most destructive.@@YorkYolk
@@kevinrussell1144 no way you compared attraction to crimes
@@kevinrussell1144 innate is not a choice
Jesus said if you're attracted to wickedness and think about it, you have as much as committed it. That's why we are all sinners. But you don't HAVE to do those evil things. Last time I checked, being gay is NOT a crime. Being attracted to children AND acting on it IS.@@YorkYolk
After engaging with folks in this comment thread those professing and openly rejecting of Christ I realize a couple of things:
1) 'we' can use Godly language, such as "I'm the worst of all sinners," or talk about what God means to us or his greatness but really this is a cover to hide our unrepentance in regards to 'certain sins.'
Jesus pointed this out regarding the "religious" unbelieving Jews, "You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: these people honor me with their lips but their hearts are far."
To be clear I too have been guilty of this. This should be a scary thing for all, especially those naming Christ.
Talk about our sin can not be a stand in for true repentance. Yes. there must be confession but there must also be new direction and that toward Christ and His Father. And that goes for all sins including homosexuality.
But of course some can't acknowledge certain desires as sinful in the 1st place. For that I pray for grace.
1b) the realization of how I do the above and more particularly as a cover up when I've been placing lesser things like my comfort or entertainment above God.
2) we really underestimate and belittle the joy of the Lord and the power of that joy as greater than our pet sins.
I think it's because we don't really want this joy or we want it on our terms. Ie. Let me have that + my sin.
The story of the rich young ruler is perfect for confronting this mentality.
I asked the Lord years ago about Freud and He led me to know Freudism is the seduction of Christianity. Thank you so much for stating this. It is so strong in the church and has compromised the Gospel message.
Freudism is nothing to the Christian faith. Jesus know about human psychology because He read our hearts and cure our mental depression.
wow atlantic city? im in south jersey
In the opening testimony here, there is more expression of 'belief in the bible' than 'belief in the God who was in Jesus': and this represents a problem when struggling to ascertain how we are justified in the sight of God. Is it through 'works' or is it through 'faith', or is it "through Christ" (however that is conceived as effected). At 16:00 Dr Yuan claims he made a "choice to follow Jesus" in rejecting his search for "a monogamous partner of the same sex". Regardless of how we 'believe' we need to treat and read our scriptures, where - in those scriptures - does Jesus of Nazareth demand this of us? Paul certainly does: but how one reads Paul is dependent upon that 'belief' I mentioned earlier. Is Paul writing for God, in the way a devout Muslim claims Mohammed was? Identity Politics Trigger-Warning! I write as an old (71) homosexual, convinced Christian, ex-student of theology (especially Christology and Theodicy) who has shared forty years of life with a gentle, handsome, male atheist. My own homosexuality is not the "core of who I am"; any more than it is the "core of who any heterosexual or bisexual person" is. Belief, and trust, in the Creator God of Israel, who is embodied in Jesus of Nazareth, the Eternal Word, is the "core of who I am"......I hope. This lecture/testimony amounts to the same lengthy, drawn-out, 'NO!' to which I have been listening all of the adult part of my life, from 'scriptural literalists'. And - in my opinion - that extra length does not amount to extra 'holiness'. God does not demand celibacy for all those not married before a Christian Holy Table, in a Christian church, before witnesses. But plenty of human beings, whose writings have been 'canonised', do!
Great comments about singleness. Definitely most churches treat singleness as a plague except for the Catholic church which believes there is a Gift of Singleness.
I don’t think you’re going to sell many gay people on the wonders of singleness, especially if it means they can never be in a romantic relationship and experience intimacy with another human.
@@levkamenev3904 There are lots of heterosexual people are who are single and don't experience romantic relationships or have intimacy with another human so I don't understand your comment.
@@sallybyrd3712 because they are trying to sell it across the board to gay people because they believe being in an gay relationship is bad, but the number of people who want to live a celibate life are very few.
@@sallybyrd3712 also, I would not say that there are lots of straight Christians who are single because they want to be. From my experience that’s a very small minority of single Christians. Most are single because they just haven’t met the right person.
@@levkamenev3904 I don't like the label straight christian; we are just christian period and should not add extra labels. If you watch Becket Cooke he discusses this topic of labels. However, I have met a lot of people who have chosen to be straight singles after having failed marriages. The fantasy of romantic relationships wears off and one realizes that they like the peace and quiet and stability of the single life. Many straight people say "never again" to chaotic relationships but you may not have met them. But yes, there are people who never give up on the futile fantasy; they are constantly meeting new people on dating sites; it becomes an addiction. They are like hamsters on a wheel.
Praise God for finding this. My sister is living with another woman for a long time. And she already attending church both of them. They are not saying anything they are homosexual but my sister always fight with our mama coz they live with our mama on same house. Now my sister will shout at my mom when the other woman hurt my mom. Showing that she loves that woman over our mom. But now she is wanting our mom who is old to live alone outside that house. They are living in phils. M living in sg. And its pandemic. So hard to help my mom. I pray and hope God's truth will open the eyes of mys sister.
Time 45: wait, question, what about these 2 verses, not about parenting purpose? & God-promised results of godly parenting?
Malachi 2:15 KJV
[15] And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
Proverbs 22:6 KJV
[6] Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
I believe you’re taking the reference you make to Malachi out of context. First Malachi is a prophet text, so he is speaking to the people of that time. During this reference of Malachi 2:15 the context is of divorce amongst Israel. Malachi would be speaking of having children outside of the marriage. As well, not all that is spoken of in the 12 prophetic books are meant to apply to the current Christian.
Proverbs, even in the Bible, are not promises, it is a wisdom literature that gives guidance on wise living.
Problem is over the years people have used Romans 1 as a one-size-fits-all weapon and that people deliberately choose to be that way and are reprobate and beyond redemption.
Nothing new, nothing convincing.
Are you saying Christian churches should NOT have same sex marriages in their churches?
Yes
@@Kattchatt just because he says that doesn't mean he's right. Once you step outside of that church door, you're no longer exempt from the law and have to be open and accepting of the LGBT community. Don't call yourself a patriot otherwise.
True marriage, as defined by Jesus is a man/woman relationship for life
no other option exists
@@cathyhamlin3611 Jesus isn't president and doesn't create the laws of the land, so stop using faith to say that marriage MUST be this way. Your justification of faith for everything is DISGUSTING! Live in the real world and stop living in your fantasy. Accept LGBT for who they are and stop pushing your fascist agenda on them.
@@cathyhamlin3611 The bible also believes in slavery yet says "love thy neighbor" etc. It contradicts itself all the time. Y'all just pick and choose what to believe. Do everyone a favor and stay out of politics if this is your line of thinking.
I think one if the worst sin is permanent rejection of a biblical spouse.
Thank you, for explaining Holy sexuality :D
I'm bisexual, and a newly born again Christian. I've just asked God to tell me what he truly thinks about gay people. I told him to fill me with an overwhelming amount of fear, dread, and sadness the next time I watched an lgbtq video if he didn't approve, or neutrality and/or peace the next time I watched an lgbtq video if he did approve.
I felt scared but not disgusted or overwhelmed by fear, so I'm confused.
I don't know what God feels about gay people and i'm agonizing over it.
God doesn’t care what you are what he cares about is repentance of sins and changing your life. If Jesus can be beaten and crucified than you can choose celibacy and live the way he wants.
Listen to me, god loves you. Whoeverso will may come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. People have used the Bible as a way to spread hate and hurt for thousands of years. It has been rewritten and retranslated numerous times. The word “HOMOSEXUAL” wasn’t even added into the Bible until 1947. It’s full of HUMAN biases. Pray, worship and give your life to Jesus and tell me you don’t feel the overwhelming love of god surrounding you.
@@BigdaddiZ I really want to believe you, but it isnt true. My compassion and love for everyone remains, but I must follow the bible. Sorry.
Feelings won’t guide you, dear friend. Only scripture.
I also pray about my sexuality like for guidance towards the right thing that Gods wants for me and sometimes (I’m a girl) my feelings toward girls feels sooo much stronger than other days and sometimes I’m like is this even right and then I will think about a boy and then I’m just like but this isn’t what I want
Praise be to God..!!!!! Please family.. say prayer for my wife.. we been separated for almost two years we have two kids 19 and 13 year old.. boy and girl.. we were together for 14 years.. she went back to homosexual life style.. because of our ups and downs.. I love her with all my heart and have given my life to Jesus Christ because I myself was living in sin. This isn’t her ... she is God godly woman.. but she just never made that next step to give her life completely to God.. We would tell each other all the time that we want to grow old together and change the each other’s diapers.. lol.. if that ain’t love .. lol. Please pray for her to find God again and seek repentance.. thank you 🙏🏽
It is not a "lifestyle". She is just being who she is, which may be gay or bisexual. God doesn't care.
@@CS-oy7qp I’m always confused as to why they refer to it as “the homosexual lifestyle” or “those who struggle with same sex attraction”. I wish they would just say gay like everyone else.
May the Lord restore your marriage. Keep praying for her
@@CS-oy7qp God does care. Did you actually listen to this testimony? God cares deeply, because he wants you to live your best life. Those relationships and this twisting of His teachings and perfect plans are not what is best for us.
She is gay. Leave her alone, let her be happy with a woman
Why are you broke and need Christ if you already have Christ who healed and restored you?? The body of Christ isn’t broken and desperate. We are delivered and filled with the FULLNESS of God!
My opinion is this: one is TO square and the other one TO liberal.
Each one of us, must have a personal relationship with the Lord and he will tell us whether gay or straight, if we are okay with HIM.
I’m sorry, but this is a blatant double standard. When a gay person pursues a same-sex relationship, you’d tell them that they should abandon it in favor of devotion to god, because they shouldn’t base their whole identity around being gay, but being holy. But when a straight person forms a strong relationship, that’s totally fine? That’s not basing your whole identity around being straight? Where is the line? Why can heterosexuality coexist with holiness, and not homosexuality?
@King James obviously Adam and Eve were straight because they were literally the only two people on earth, if the point was to make babies then yeah that’s what they would have to do. But now that there’s more than two people why would god have a problem with it? It literally isn’t effecting anyone.
@King James Did you not learn about practicing safe sex in school? Because gay sex is perfectly safe when performed correctly. And as far as the aids epidemic, straight people can get aids just as easily as gay people so I really wish y’all would stop spreading misinformation.
@King James Gay sex happens all the time in nature, literally just watch a nature documentary or go outside, you can see it happen all the time. The problem is these man made religions declared gay sex as immoral because it doesn’t result in giving birth to children as if that’s the only reason people have sex.
@ shènɡ jīnɡ AMEN I agree with you.
@@ii954 After their punishment, God made Adam and Eve married with each other. Yes truly this is a establishment of man-woman marriage but it's by their punishment. But the committed marriage between a man a and woman has been established with traditional taboos whether it's good or bad in the eyes of God. But what will never accept is same sex marriages or any immoral adulterous sexual relationships.
When He, Jesus and Holy Ghost went to Sodom and Gommorah to rescue Lot, they saw people practice homosexuality, bestiality. The people of Sodom saw these three angels, they want to RAPE them all! So three angels blinded, them told Lot to leave the two wicked cities for they will destroyed it with fire and brimstone. This lead to to time of Moses after God released the Israelites from Egypt, gave the Ten Commandments and one of commandments saying 'Thou shalt not commit adultery.' Even the New Testament Gospels when Jesus gave His sermon on the mount called the 'Beatitudes.' He did said the 'Thou shalt not commit adultery.' And He gave an example that 'If any man looks into a woman with lust had already committed adultery in his heart.' This action also symbolic that sexually immorality is not just adultery, its with anyone committed any lustful actions with any person whether it's any child, adult or even an animal. Yes God created sex, but He sets moral standards to every creature not to use sex as immoral practice of power, but to promote balance between a male and female relationship by committed union and that male and female martial relationship can have sex to each other. Any violations can lead to serious consequences to your life and body and your relationship with your martial partner and with Jesus Christ. So the practice of same sex marriages, changing your sexual nature remains to this day an abomination in the eyes of God. And I hope all nations of the Earth should practice sex in God's Way.
This story is so one dimensional. Where’s the true life? Where can a gay person be truly happy rather than burdened with demands of stop being gay?
Seek to know God and to have a relationship with him! That’s why he created us. Read the Bible and talk to him and practice faith in everything. Not easy but also so awesome. Look at all he has for you instead of all the things you "can’t" do. In him is so much peace, love, joy. He forgives you if you mess up, he helps you to do what’s right. Lean on him like you like depends on it
This might be a little harsh but maybe that’s the point, god mad you that way because you thought that love was everything and he wants you to focus on him. Just because you are struggling with any kind of sexual sin like masturbation or homosexuality doesn’t mean that you won’t be happy
@@ezekielcoronado700 It seems like if you are forced to be single when you don’t want to be, it’s unlikely you’re going to be particularly happy.
@@ezekielcoronado700 No moral being would subject another to a life without love.
@@fellowish You are 100% right in this. To subject someone else to a life without love would not be moral. What God does though is offer His love to all people - this initially may seem strange, but as you grow your relationship with God, the more you'll realise that His love is all sufficient. If you don't understand, this is why: 1 Corinthians 2:14
For the parents of the homosexual child-What a good reminder that ‘it’s not their fault’.
Look at the first child of Adam and Eve! And this covers any children that have gone awry.
We probably all learned much to think about from Dr Yuan.👍🏽
Imagine a child with 2 mommies or 2 daddies? It will be strange!
@@jacobtennyson9213i have two daddy I love them
@@jacobtennyson9213strange to you
@@YorkYolk .. Then where is your mommy? One of you two dad's can't make babies.
@@jacobtennyson9213 No I am adopted by two dads
Wonderful edification regarding singleness even amount straight Christians. Unfortunately, most Christians churches honor marriages over singleness among theirselves.
I am so happy I left Christianity, I am the happiest I have ever been in my whole life. I don’t have to spend my whole life worshiping a God who does not seem to want to reach out and commune with me, and have never ever felt was there. I don’t have to ever feel ashamed for my feelings, I don’t have to feel stressed out all the time thinking people are going to hell, I never again have to be arrogant and tell people of other faiths that they are wrong and for sure going to hell for believing whatever they want to believe. I feel so free. I no longer have to feel that I am undeserving of God’s “love” and I never have to feel again that I can’t be friends with someone without judging them. I just now need to live and love others without holding back or judgment. I no longer have to give God credit for the things that I do and I never have to feel like my good deeps are rubbish.
Same
Bless. What blows me away about his testimony is his arrogance. His singular experience of greed, hedonism, selfishness and narcissm is held up as the gay lifestyle. BS. I work with heaps of cool, enlightened gays with very spiritually grounded lives. This dude may well have contributed to his pawns drug habits and even potential death due to getting hiv from him. He closes by saying: you are dismissed. His arrogance repulses me
@@MJ-qb5ph is it really “his arrogance” that offends you, because I work 40hr weeks with psychiatrists and psychologists, and I don’t hear the perceived arrogance in Mr Yuan’s talk.
Grateful you left but here you are watching people talk about the gospel and redemption. Thats like me watching videos on how to grow great Cannabis strains.
A good example of Romans 1. That’s your prerogative and Free Will.
Lol i am a closeted bisexual Christian homeschool kid being raised in a good home
Good now go for the opposite gender and don’t give into the other temptation
@@lilripx3939 idk what person of what gender i’ll end up with, and i cant help my attraction to the same gender. I understand and thank you for your concern!
@@generalkenobi4509 I’m saying god gives even a fully gay person the choice to act or not. It’s the same as a straight person is attracted to other females while married. It’s not morally ok for that straight person to cheat.
So you have the blessing of being bi so you can still live a moral Christian life and have pleasures of s3x with the opposite gender.
@@generalkenobi4509 Bisexual here - pls don't try to force yourself into heterosexuality. If you fall in love with a persom of the same gender, go for it!!
@@lilripx3939 Don't tell people you don't know what to do :)
For salvation, we just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in water for the removal of sins and filled with the Holy Ghost. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is.
We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man, be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD.
We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:6-9, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed.
One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans. Our salvation has to match up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us.
The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38.
The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church.
It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction.
Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, And they continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone.
Don't get Titus 3:5 mixed up with James 2:14-26, about WORKS. One is a WORK of your OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS OR GOOD DEEDS and the other is a WORK OF FAITH OR OBEDIENCE TO GOD. One is letting you know that there are no Works we could have done to make Christ want to die on the cross for us. Romans 5:8, But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
The other is about believing and being obedient to God because you believe. Faith without WORKS OR OBEYING GOD IS DEAD. James 2:14-26.
Noah believed and then OBEYED OR WENT TO WORK BUILDING THE ARK.
Now that Christ already paid the full price for our salvation we have to attain it by obeying his way to receive it, Acts 2:38! There is no sinner's prayer. Nowhere in the bible in this church age does it state to accept the Lord Jesus as your savior and you are saved. Mark 16:16, he that believes and is baptized shall be saved.
FAITH WITHOUT OBEDIENCE TO GOD WILL BE IN VAIN. God bless you.
I'm single, I have no prob seeing it as a cancer, lonely, inferior. Don't think our relationship to christ changes this state. Adam was lonely in the perfect state, perfect relationship with God. Think it's pride frame our humble circumstances as somehow not, equal to ....