RIP to the legend James Mcaffery, the man who made my childhood, as well as so many other people's. The Max Payne games are still games I revisit regularly, and will forever be among the best ever created. Rip James, I'm glad he came back for one last role as Alex Casey.
I really wonder wether we will see another entry of the Max Payne series. A reboot, remaster, another sequel or prequel... All i know it's not gonna be the same without James around... May he rest in peace
@@theTrevorluckremakes of the first 2 games have already been confirmed. If he wasnt able to record anything for them i hope so badly they just use his existing lines from the originals. It truly won't be a Max Payne game without him
@@lovelost28 Indeed, I happen to like the artwork and have the capability of having nuanced opinions on a topic rather than a black and white "DIS AMAZIN'" or "DELET FROM EXISTENCE".
Hollywood ruined the moive if they stayed true to the game they wourd have made more moives.......max your in a graphic Novel......a deep green crack right threw my skull it hit me like a broken bottel of Tabasco. iam in a graphic novel funny as hell I coudint think of enything more horrible.
You missed "Collecting evidence had gotten old a couple hundred bullet ago. I was so far past the point of no return I didn't even remember what it had looked like when I passed it."
The storytelling was so powerful. I loved : " The explosion in my apartment had started a fire. The flames couldn't burn away my past. They just made the shadows behind me leap higher." and "Closing your eyes forces you to look at the darkness inside." So deep and powerful.
"The good and the just were like gold dust in this city. I had no illusions. I was not one of them" "I was no hero." "Just me and the gun, and the crook." "My options were decreased to a singular course." Max Payne is incredible.
@@MaxPaynefan1 czcams.com/video/LLTS43242yc/video.html The Great American Saviour of The Poor, in the minute 20:21, I could only find it in that video, apparently it is a unique quote when you're taking painkillers in that mission.
@@batalorian7997 I was investigating, and it turns out that these dialogues appeared in different missions when you consumed painkillers, it seems to me that these are all: czcams.com/video/75eG3OYW0pY/video.html
People are probably revolving their opinions around that quote about his wife at the end of MP2 (I had a dream of my wife. She was dead, but it was alright) and the fact that he is running from his past up until the end, when he faces it and poetically, it solves everything and he is supposed to be alright. But maybe, just maybe, this progress of his was only temporary. At least that's how I see things. Maybe Mona and the whole MP2 story helped Max but only for a SMALL amount of time, as if he took a painkiller. Let's not forget that he is laid off NYPD and that Michelle and his baby aren't the only people he had lost. If Mona is the true cure for his past, then losing her, no matter how poetic this might be, would still hurt him a lot and would possibly make him grieve his way back to the MP1 days. Add the betrayals, the fact that he is not a cop anymore, the death of literally everyone he knew (even Jim Bravura dies between MP2 and MP3). Max was indeed helped by Mona, but after MP2, what is there for him? Corpses and unemployment. Spend nine years dealing with survivor's guilt, loneliness, grief, self-hatred and eventually you're gonna fall off, sink into alcohol. He is feeling worthless, he feels like a failure in every aspect. Nothing that he cared for is there for him anymore. Living for nine years like this would definitely make him abandon every quality that he had in favor of booze. That's why he seems so dumb in MP3. Because he's so depressed, he doesn't care about anything anymore. Who cares if he had a poetic touch? Whoever cared is now dead. He's literally living off of alcohol and grief. This thing eats you on the inside and all that's left is this angry, self-deprecating drunk (hence brushing off his past once again, calling Mona a "business"). MP3 sees Max at his worst because depression never goes away if you've got no one to help you deal with it. I mean, like most of his hardcore fans hating the setting, hating the things Max ended up doing and hating Max at some point (especially after he shaved his head) so does Max. Max hates every single second of MP3. Passos comes and offers him a job, he denies it because he thinks he's too rusty or he sees himself as a failure. But despite his broken state, he somehow gets involved with the Brancos, he gets involved with the crimes that Victor did and in the end, he saves a lot of people. Sure, the people he was originally supposed to protect end up dead, but now there's a difference. At the end of MP3, when he finally solves the human trafficking scandal, after he rescues Giovanna, makes amends with Passos and helps Da Silva, after he rescues those innocent people, they live. Everyone that wasn't caught in Max's misanthropic rants lives. The outcome of his actions is not death anymore. He's not looking at a pile of corpses anymore or, at least, he's not looking at the corpses of his close ones. Which is why he "moves on" or it is suggested that he moves on in MP3. Because now, it was worth fighting. Even if the entire story is trying to tell Max that he is an alien, that nothing he ever did or ever will do is wrong, in the end, he is finally a hero. This is my two cents on the whole franchise. I love Max's character a whole lot, I was so sad when I saw Mona die in his arms, but I was so happy seeing him walk into the sunset with that pleased smile. To me, the turmoil he finds himself in MP3 makes so much sense, I'm sorry if my opinion is too long or otherwise, not accepted, but to me it's all so logical. The simplicity and dumb surroundings, the GTA-esque atmosphere is so fitting, because GTA is a self-deprecating world, with cliche people and stereotypes that make you wanna strangle them through your screen. Max Payne is the anti-GTA, hating every aspect of this GTA and yet being forced to live through it, getting influenced by it of course, but managing to fight through the fun and games and discovering the rotten core of the story. And another thing : had I tried to forget about my wife and child with another woman, no matter the outcome, at some point in time, I would hate myself for it. After all, it's family we're talking about here. The kind of love Max felt for Michelle...that can't be felt twice in a lifetime. So it's logical that he brushes Mona off in MP3, after all, love is felt, not thought through. Excuse my potential grammar or spelling mistakes.
i think max would've been a lot less jarring in 3 if he'd been more poetic in parts set earlier in the game's timeline, and as it went on he became more like how he was throughout the actual game.
lucifersam01 And everybody doesn't get this and keep bitching around with Part 3. I was like, dude he wanted to change so bad. Whole objective of Max in the game was to change (and technically run away from his memories) and I can clearly see that with how they made Max Payne 3.
lucifersam01 No offence but the third got more potential, I played first Max Payne when I was 5 the second one looks the worst in my opinion, and first is the greatest
Do not understand Max's story arc? He was falling down a hole with no bottom and gaining momentum to nowhere fast. The third one had him redeem himself and put his demons behind him to try to start new
sure his arc may have made sense, but the writing certainly doesn't seem like him from the first two games. i think the problem is that, strangely enough, he sounds too grounded in 3. in the first two he talked in metaphors and quotes, really inspecting everything he was looking at. in 3, he's just sort of...pissed off. it's definitely a shift. edit: poetic. he was poetic in the first two games. jesus fucking christ i can't believe i couldn't think of the word
Problem is he already "dealt with his demons" in Max Payne 2. He learned to accept all the shit that had happened. *I had a dream of my wife. She was dead, but it was alright.* And he wasnt nearly as fucked up as this. Rockstar just really fucked Max Payne up. He's nothing like the first two games. Hes a shitty bum imitating Bruce Willis in jungle slums. What in the fuck were they thinking? What happened to the deep ,beautiful, poetic monologue or cold dark streets of Noir York? What about nightmares? It's all so bad. Instead we get a cursing bum wandering around drunk in jungles, yelling, with shitty flash effects constantly burning my eyes.
A voice of a generation. A true pinnacle in the medium. A sound that is edged into many peoples heads. He contributed to all of us. When you're dead, you're dead. But not quite as dead if you contributed to something. Until we meet again, James. A true legend. Ps. If you miss him, you know where to look.
"There are two kinds of people: Ones that are trying to build their future and ones that are trying to rebuild their past." "I knew this was a bad idea, but, in the absence of any good ideas, I continued forward." "Her fashion sense didn't leave a whole lot of room for imagination. Let alone food." "I might have written the book on bad ideas, but Passos wasn't afraid to quote from it. " "The guy was smoother than a oil slick on an iceberg, and about as toxic." "I had a hole in my second favorite drinking arm, and the only way we were likely to get Fabiana back now was in installments. Whoever our uninvited guests were... I was about done playing soldier."
"Another dark rainy night, another police station, another futile crusade for amends. Time moves forward, nothing changes" "Look at me, im standing in a nightclub, listening to music i cant stand, im 5000 miles from home, i'm armed and i'm drinking... You don't want to listen to advice from me amigo." "They had their body armor, i had mine "
Max Payne 3 isn't supposed to be about him coming to terms with his haunted past; it takes place in Brazil! It's another chapter in Max Payne's life. Nobody who had lost a wife or child could ever be at peace and Max Payne 3 illustrates that. Max is a drunk/pill addict still struggling to let go of the past. For all his video game powers, Max is still very human.
***** game itself can't really explain why the needed Max in the first place. It could be anyone. But no, let's take that guy fom New York who killed about 2000 people and take a long trip from America to fucking Brasil - and for what? To try make this guy a scapegoat. 10\10, best plan, would risk my ass off in Hoboken.
CaptainBloodRaven I like it. Let's make the next Max Payne. He's back in Jersey with a single purpose: to turn thousands of mobsters into coffin stuffers.
"Niagara - as in you cry a lot." + "I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do." - this is the best combination of lines ever, period. I played Max Payne when I was 17 (am now 36) and I never forgot it.
You cherry picked scenes from Max Payne 3. He says tons of really good lines. "She was dead. Shot by some 'hero" fighting the rich, one lonely secretary at a time." "Gunfire over Hoboken. Familiar to be the centre of it again. The target that is. Like an comedian hearing one last round of applause."
You missed out some really good ones like: "There are two kinds of people: Those who spend their lives trying to build a future and those who spend their lives trying to rebuild the past." "Her fashion sense didn't leave a whole lot of room for imagination. Let alone food." "I might have written the book on bad ideas, but Passos wasn't afraid to quote from it. " "The guy was smoother than an oil slick on an iceberg, and about as toxic." "I'd been sitting at the bar for three hours, or five years depending on how you looked at things.''
Max Payne was a bit cynical and bitter in all 3 games, but he seemed a lot less intelligent and prone to angry outbursts in the third game. I enjoyed MP3, but I still preferred the Max Payne that kept his cool, mused over morality and human nature, and shot clever one-liners at his enemies instead of raging.
I think the point of Max Payne 3 was to underscore the major transformation of Max. Think about it. He tries to move on to a new life. He's still depressed and an alcoholic which diminishes his intelligence.
Tana Mongoloid I don't think you even know that you're right. Yeah, it's possible that it's a part of character development, but at the end of the day it's still just a rationalization.
ya, max payne 1 was the best. the second was good too. the third was nothing like the first two. I liked it, but I liked the feel of the first two. the dark, noir york city feeling.
Dillon Fortni three things that make Max Payne special to me: the graphic novels, the nightmares and the rain. I'll add the psychological deep narrations too :D
I just found this today and thought it was amazing so here Max payne talking to Alan wake in reference to a max payne remake I guess czcams.com/video/8eOzETUaiK8/video.htmlsi=PpHxiWNU8Y25Hduv
Watching these clips is like looking in a mirror. The reflection of a man you don't recognise. He looks back at you with judgement in his eyes. You can lie to yourself but he knows everything about you.
" My judgement might be lousy, But my hand is steady. " " The insanity that comes with losing the life you'd built. " " The way I see it there's two types of people, those who spend their lives trying to build a future and those who spend their lives trying to rebuild the past. "
It was a good game, but they didn't understand Max Payne as a character. He's the version of a good guy that's in maximum pain. They way they wrote him he's just and angry action man killing people because they try to kill him and he's better at it than they are. If you have Max ever lose his temper or too much color in the world after the death of his family, then you missed the point of Max being dead inside living in a world that is fully corrupted by evil.
For me max payne 1 is still the best.. Maybe cause im still an innocent kid at that time, and not being coloured by anything else, the feelings running deep into my veins..
I really loved the energy and atmosphere of the first game too. He kept moving forward, without thinking much of the past. He wasn't depressed, he wasn't lost, he wanted blood. MP1 Payne is still the most badass of them all.
What an amazing voice. His chemistry as Alex Casey with Melanie Liburd's Saga in Alan Wake 2 was great. He perfectly balanced light heartedness and seriousness
The past is a puzzle, like a broken mirror. As you piece it together, you cut yourself, your image keeps shifting. And you change with it. It could destroy you, drive you mad. It could set you free.
I think one of the major turning points on why max payne changed some attitude because this one he has actually Passos on his side to talk to. Max Payne 1 and 2, he wanted to be alone, even when he was in the Police Department he stayed out of it and chose to go undercover.
FREAKING ZOMBIE DEMONS FROM OUTER SPACE!! Honestly, I loved the dialogue in Max Payne 3. Less eloquent and more bitter and vulgar than before, but Max is getting pretty old and it's been 9 years of alcohol and painkiller abuse, so I can accept the change as long as he's still sarcastic and witty. Personally, I thought the swearing and out-of-character moments made him more human and relatable, but maybe that's just me. At least, he still has the same voice actor. I think it was mentioned somewhere that he realized that his brief relationship with Mona was just a desperate attempt to make up for the loss of his wife and child. Not sure if that means anything though...
I like your comment and how your sticking up for MP3's Max. Doesn't say that he lost his touch with the metaphors over the years. Probably cause of the booze and pills he's been taking for so long.
Okay, I love all of these games. The first has the, undeniable, best story. I bought a copy when I was like 8 ish because my father (RIP) and my older sister played it and I couldn’t hold a PS2 controller in my hands. Max Payne 2 is a gothic romance and nowhere near as horrific and traumatizing as the first, but it’s decent. I’ve beaten all of them by my self, but when Max Payne 3 came out on Xbox 360 and my dad didn’t get the controls and all.... I got the be the story teller. I love MP3 and I have hope they make more. I remember sliding down the end levels escalators while listening to Whatever (Chris Benoits theme) and wrecking enemies :3 One of my happiest moments, aside from Johnny and me walking home for 3 miles in a snow storm (LEAVING MY MA IN CAR NO LESS ... -.-) to play San Andreas... OR on the Manhunt mission where you’ve gotta get each level of execution in the prison level... I played for about 3 hours just stackin Smileys up at the camera before I found out he wanted the execution meter to be snuff level blood red... ANYWAY Love you to anybody has read this and allowed me to indulge in my childhood :3 Cheers mate, I love y’all lots
I'll go with Remedy's closure to the series, the note. Max gets to be with his family again"Honey, I'm home"! The one where Mona lives is also good, I like it because it's beautiful when the theme starts kicking in and Mona starts talking again! That, and because it will prevent Max from going to Brazil and all. I think the reason Max Payne wasn't talking in the mp3 ending was because it was the present, and Max was no longer narrating because he just told his story. That sounds cool aswell.
the thing is you have to understand max went through 8 years of solitary pain and despair and after losing everything he ever wanted hes become disconnected from the things that used to make him happy and the hope to have those things again. instead hes very cynical and hates himself aswell as the world around him. He is still very witty in this game although i recognise not as poetic, he focus more on his instinct in this one instead of thinking things through and describing everything*Part 1*
My favourite quote “I don’t want to think about it, as I long I don’t, it could never happened” It perfectly summarised how people when they think undesirable thoughts. The title of the music also fit, Just forget about it.
I'll admit, Max Payne 3 based on the gameplay alone has grown on me through repeated playthroughs. I have to hand it to Rockstar for upgrading the Max Payne gameplay and making the violence as sadistically graphic as possible. Shooting goons hasn't been more satisfying (Once you get used to the new engine). It's too bad they didn't put as much effort into matching the same style and plot of the first two. I hate how Max slowly becomes more and more like a generic Bruce Willis action hero and...
-There's a wall in the funhouse that has written REDDRUM, if you look back in the mirror it says "MURDDER" and a flamingo appears(the same flamingo from address unknown) saying "Mirrors are more fun than television"(you can see this quote written on walls in Max Payne nightmares) -In the last nightmare Jim Bravura is showing you a dead body (yourself) and he says "The killer's looking for an answer, but he's looking for it in the wrong place.He should be looking for it in HIS OWN HEAD" CONTINUE
The for me is "take a cheap place and make millions with it" from Max Payne 3, thats how was Brasil back in the Day i not gonna lie, even Max Payne could see that apart from those who like to hear sweet lies from a president that stole and drinks littelly with their money....
I find your judgement rather unfair when you talk about Rockstar "ruining" Max's character. Was Max not already ruined by his tragic past in the events of the first two games? If you expect him to still be "Classic Max" after all of his suffering, then your expectations exceed the capacity of an average human mind. And in spite of his time-altering powers, I'm confident in saying many people agree in saying that Max's humanity is what makes him such a great character. He's interesting and unique, yet we can relate to his vulnerabilities extremely well. But what irks me the most is how in the video description, you describe Max to be "out of character" in the third game. I think you misconstrue his character undergoing change with his character acting unrealistically given his experiences. Is Max Payne 3 perfect? Of course not, but neither are the first and second games.
Do you know how Poets of the fall got there name? Sam Lake wrote a poem called late goodbye and he asked the band to turn it into a full length song. They're called "Poets" because there first song was based on a poem. And "fall" because they played late goodbye for the Max Payne 2 the "FALL" of Max Payne.
When I first played the nightmare I didn't know there was a mirror in the hall-way, so it looked like their was another Max running towards me. It creeped me out so I started shooting at the "Other Max" for a good minute or two before I realized, that it was just a mirror. That's some good level design right there.
I also find it weird how in Max's nightmare in MP2, he chases a double of himself. And then you find out that Max was chasing himself all along when you see yourself in a mirror. "Mirrors are more fun than television." You know how in the nightmare Max sees himself dead on the floor with the words "She made me do it" on the wall. Well you could see pictures of that in the police station, it's weird.
3 wasn't that bad. The most notable thing I noticed in 3 is that he is much more emotive and angry. However, in 1 and 2, Max is essentially recounting a story so it makes sense why he sounds pretty low energy about it. He's just saying it how it is. In 3, you see him actively participate in the story, so you see him react to things as he learns about it.
Though people will disagree with my opinion and that's fine, I thought Max Payne 3 was a pretty excellent game. I thought it was actually kinda clever making Max addicted to pain killers since in the past two games, you needed to pop pills to get health back. It's some pretty good background story telling, plus he feels guilty over Mona Sax, though his wife is dead and it is normal to want to move on. Max as a character has been through so much shit he can't find a break and as he aged he became more and more bitter at life. I mean if someone broke into your home, murdered your family due to a government cover up who used V to make them do it, then framed for the murder of your best friend I'd be pissed. Then you kill the bitch behind it and think you can move on but no, Mona comes back to throw a spanner in the works, you get framed for some pretty bad shit and your Russian brother from another momski decides to stab you in the back. Then after all that shit has blown over, some shit goes south and the grave of your beloved wife is desecrated by gun fire. And if that wasn't bad enough, you get to play the fall guy. If I was in the same situation then I'd be an angry, foul mouthed drunk who pops pills and wants to die.
I don't think people deny that MP3 was an excellent game, what they're saying is that it didn't do justice as an addition to the series that already existed with components that were fundamentally important to the series' identity. Had Rockstar started their own reboot of Max Payne that lead up to that 3rd game, the MP3 we know now would've been fantastically received. The absence of Remedy's and Sam Lake's production was sorely obvious and needed to capture what they did in the first two games to finish it off (if that was even needed after Mp2). I'd have preferred Remedy to finish the trilogy with their own title and Rockstar reboot with their own one.
Max Payne 3 also has some amazing quotes, Rockstar made Max Fat bald dude with a bad temper but that was a part of the badassness of Max Payne, I enjoyed with Max Payne 3, of course first two were amazing, but MP3 is also great game
Frankie: I'm Frankie 'The Bat' Niagra Max: Niagra? As in you cry a lot? 😂 Despite Maxs pain, he still manages to retrain a pretty savage sense of humour
RIP to the legend James Mcaffery, the man who made my childhood, as well as so many other people's. The Max Payne games are still games I revisit regularly, and will forever be among the best ever created.
Rip James, I'm glad he came back for one last role as Alex Casey.
I really wonder wether we will see another entry of the Max Payne series. A reboot, remaster, another sequel or prequel...
All i know it's not gonna be the same without James around... May he rest in peace
came here just to hear that iconic voice once again💔
His performances loom large in my interiority; I'll always treasure what he gave me, rest in peace.
@@theTrevorluckremakes of the first 2 games have already been confirmed. If he wasnt able to record anything for them i hope so badly they just use his existing lines from the originals. It truly won't be a Max Payne game without him
RIP, thank you for compiling his greatness.
"He was trying to buy more sand for his hourglass, I wasn't selling any" Damnnnnnnnnn
i might have laughed if i remembered how 😭
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"I'd been sitting at the bar for three hours, or five years depending on how you looked at things''
- Max Payne
Average terrible Max Payne 3 quote.
kristopherm3 Average terrible kristosperm quote.
+kristopherm3 "It's from MP3 so it must be bad xD"
@@lovelost28 Indeed, I happen to like the artwork and have the capability of having nuanced opinions on a topic rather than a black and white "DIS AMAZIN'" or "DELET FROM EXISTENCE".
Best quote ever,rockstar did a job,don't ever hear above me me rockstar,trust me,you did a REALLY GOOD JOB!!
R.I.P. James McCaffrey. Cancer took another legend...
I thought he died from MM, not cancer?
@@HOTD108_MM?
@@HOTD108_ MM is a form of cancer.
"The movie was Awesome!" said no one who played the games.
well I saw the movie but im playing max payne...and the movie is completely different...except that...valkyr and stuff and DEMONS
I guess no one ever said that.
The movie was shit.
it was ok
Hollywood ruined the moive if they stayed true to the game they wourd have made more moives.......max your in a graphic Novel......a deep green crack right threw my skull it hit me like a broken bottel of Tabasco. iam in a graphic novel funny as hell I coudint think of enything more horrible.
You forgot my favourite: "I had a dream of my wife. She was dead but it was alright."
Evry boomer
It's only a dream that he'll get over the death of his wife and child.
After all the fuckin horrific shit i endured in that playthrough, when i heard that line i honestly shed a tear
Best line that basically got retconed by 3
@@milan7160are you 7?
You missed "Collecting evidence had gotten old a couple hundred bullet ago. I was so far past the point of no return I didn't even remember what it had looked like when I passed it."
The storytelling was so powerful. I loved :
" The explosion in my apartment had started a fire. The flames couldn't burn away my past. They just made the shadows behind me leap higher."
and
"Closing your eyes forces you to look at the darkness inside."
So deep and powerful.
"The good and the just were like gold dust in this city. I had no illusions. I was not one of them"
"I was no hero."
"Just me and the gun, and the crook."
"My options were decreased to a singular course."
Max Payne is incredible.
"If you find yourself in hell... dance with the devil"
-Max Payne 3
When does he say that
@@MaxPaynefan1 czcams.com/video/LLTS43242yc/video.html The Great American Saviour of The Poor, in the minute 20:21, I could only find it in that video, apparently it is a unique quote when you're taking painkillers in that mission.
@@hugohowlett7677 ahhh thx
I don't remember that quote in Max Payne 3. I have the game, but don't know where to look for it
@@batalorian7997 I was investigating, and it turns out that these dialogues appeared in different missions when you consumed painkillers, it seems to me that these are all:
czcams.com/video/75eG3OYW0pY/video.html
People are probably revolving their opinions around that quote about his wife at the end of MP2 (I had a dream of my wife. She was dead, but it was alright) and the fact that he is running from his past up until the end, when he faces it and poetically, it solves everything and he is supposed to be alright.
But maybe, just maybe, this progress of his was only temporary. At least that's how I see things. Maybe Mona and the whole MP2 story helped Max but only for a SMALL amount of time, as if he took a painkiller. Let's not forget that he is laid off NYPD and that Michelle and his baby aren't the only people he had lost. If Mona is the true cure for his past, then losing her, no matter how poetic this might be, would still hurt him a lot and would possibly make him grieve his way back to the MP1 days. Add the betrayals, the fact that he is not a cop anymore, the death of literally everyone he knew (even Jim Bravura dies between MP2 and MP3). Max was indeed helped by Mona, but after MP2, what is there for him? Corpses and unemployment.
Spend nine years dealing with survivor's guilt, loneliness, grief, self-hatred and eventually you're gonna fall off, sink into alcohol. He is feeling worthless, he feels like a failure in every aspect. Nothing that he cared for is there for him anymore. Living for nine years like this would definitely make him abandon every quality that he had in favor of booze. That's why he seems so dumb in MP3. Because he's so depressed, he doesn't care about anything anymore. Who cares if he had a poetic touch? Whoever cared is now dead. He's literally living off of alcohol and grief. This thing eats you on the inside and all that's left is this angry, self-deprecating drunk (hence brushing off his past once again, calling Mona a "business").
MP3 sees Max at his worst because depression never goes away if you've got no one to help you deal with it. I mean, like most of his hardcore fans hating the setting, hating the things Max ended up doing and hating Max at some point (especially after he shaved his head) so does Max. Max hates every single second of MP3. Passos comes and offers him a job, he denies it because he thinks he's too rusty or he sees himself as a failure. But despite his broken state, he somehow gets involved with the Brancos, he gets involved with the crimes that Victor did and in the end, he saves a lot of people. Sure, the people he was originally supposed to protect end up dead, but now there's a difference. At the end of MP3, when he finally solves the human trafficking scandal, after he rescues Giovanna, makes amends with Passos and helps Da Silva, after he rescues those innocent people, they live. Everyone that wasn't caught in Max's misanthropic rants lives. The outcome of his actions is not death anymore. He's not looking at a pile of corpses anymore or, at least, he's not looking at the corpses of his close ones. Which is why he "moves on" or it is suggested that he moves on in MP3.
Because now, it was worth fighting. Even if the entire story is trying to tell Max that he is an alien, that nothing he ever did or ever will do is wrong, in the end, he is finally a hero.
This is my two cents on the whole franchise. I love Max's character a whole lot, I was so sad when I saw Mona die in his arms, but I was so happy seeing him walk into the sunset with that pleased smile. To me, the turmoil he finds himself in MP3 makes so much sense, I'm sorry if my opinion is too long or otherwise, not accepted, but to me it's all so logical. The simplicity and dumb surroundings, the GTA-esque atmosphere is so fitting, because GTA is a self-deprecating world, with cliche people and stereotypes that make you wanna strangle them through your screen. Max Payne is the anti-GTA, hating every aspect of this GTA and yet being forced to live through it, getting influenced by it of course, but managing to fight through the fun and games and discovering the rotten core of the story.
And another thing : had I tried to forget about my wife and child with another woman, no matter the outcome, at some point in time, I would hate myself for it. After all, it's family we're talking about here. The kind of love Max felt for Michelle...that can't be felt twice in a lifetime. So it's logical that he brushes Mona off in MP3, after all, love is felt, not thought through.
Excuse my potential grammar or spelling mistakes.
I haven't thought of it that way. That's genius when you think about it.
i think max would've been a lot less jarring in 3 if he'd been more poetic in parts set earlier in the game's timeline, and as it went on he became more like how he was throughout the actual game.
Yah this made sense . I don't hate mp3 anymore
^^ THIS Thank You
I wish more people think like you
Big fan of Max Payne, and the third is no exeption and a logical turn to the character.
lucifersam01 And everybody doesn't get this and keep bitching around with Part 3.
I was like, dude he wanted to change so bad. Whole objective of Max in the game was to change (and technically run away from his memories) and I can clearly see that with how they made Max Payne 3.
lucifersam01 No offence but the third got more potential, I played first Max Payne when I was 5 the second one looks the worst in my opinion, and first is the greatest
Do not understand Max's story arc? He was falling down a hole with no bottom and gaining momentum to nowhere fast. The third one had him redeem himself and put his demons behind him to try to start new
sure his arc may have made sense, but the writing certainly doesn't seem like him from the first two games. i think the problem is that, strangely enough, he sounds too grounded in 3. in the first two he talked in metaphors and quotes, really inspecting everything he was looking at. in 3, he's just sort of...pissed off. it's definitely a shift.
edit: poetic. he was poetic in the first two games. jesus fucking christ i can't believe i couldn't think of the word
Problem is he already "dealt with his demons" in Max Payne 2. He learned to accept all the shit that had happened. *I had a dream of my wife. She was dead, but it was alright.* And he wasnt nearly as fucked up as this. Rockstar just really fucked Max Payne up. He's nothing like the first two games. Hes a shitty bum imitating Bruce Willis in jungle slums. What in the fuck were they thinking? What happened to the deep ,beautiful, poetic monologue or cold dark streets of Noir York? What about nightmares? It's all so bad. Instead we get a cursing bum wandering around drunk in jungles, yelling, with shitty flash effects constantly burning my eyes.
A voice of a generation. A true pinnacle in the medium. A sound that is edged into many peoples heads. He contributed to all of us.
When you're dead, you're dead. But not quite as dead if you contributed to something.
Until we meet again, James. A true legend.
Ps. If you miss him, you know where to look.
R.I.P. James McCaffrey
"I don't know what I expected to find up there, but I knew it wasn't going to be a stripper bursting out of a cake."
Max Payne 3
“I might have laughed if I remembered how”
Both hilarious and tragic, the perfect summation of his character
"There are two kinds of people: Ones that are trying to build their future and ones that are trying to rebuild their past."
"I knew this was a bad idea, but, in the absence of any good ideas, I continued forward."
"Her fashion sense didn't leave a whole lot of room for imagination. Let alone food."
"I might have written the book on bad ideas, but Passos wasn't afraid to quote from it. "
"The guy was smoother than a oil slick on an iceberg, and about as toxic."
"I had a hole in my second favorite drinking arm, and the only way we were likely to get Fabiana back now was in installments. Whoever our uninvited guests were... I was about done playing soldier."
"Another dark rainy night, another police station, another futile crusade for amends. Time moves forward, nothing changes"
"Look at me, im standing in a nightclub, listening to music i cant stand, im 5000 miles from home, i'm armed and i'm drinking... You don't want to listen to advice from me amigo."
"They had their body armor, i had mine "
Max Payne 3 isn't supposed to be about him coming to terms with his haunted past; it takes place in Brazil! It's another chapter in Max Payne's life.
Nobody who had lost a wife or child could ever be at peace and Max Payne 3 illustrates that. Max is a drunk/pill addict still struggling to let go of the past. For all his video game powers, Max is still very human.
***** game itself can't really explain why the needed Max in the first place.
It could be anyone. But no, let's take that guy fom New York who killed about 2000 people and take a long trip from America to fucking Brasil - and for what? To try make this guy a scapegoat. 10\10, best plan, would risk my ass off in Hoboken.
CaptainBloodRaven I like it. Let's make the next Max Payne. He's back in Jersey with a single purpose: to turn thousands of mobsters into coffin stuffers.
***** Sam Lake would still nail that shit.
given what happened in new jersey in mp3, it would've made way more sense for a repeat of mp1 to have gone down instead
@@VimyGlide Necro-Posting
I am not okay rn
RIP
Still dreaming about Max Payne 4. This series was like a big movie.
“He was trying to buy more sand for his hourglass. I wasn’t selling any.”
Badass
RIP James McCaffrey. 😢
"Niagara - as in you cry a lot." + "I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do." - this is the best combination of lines ever, period. I played Max Payne when I was 17 (am now 36) and I never forgot it.
You cherry picked scenes from Max Payne 3. He says tons of really good lines.
"She was dead. Shot by some 'hero" fighting the rich, one lonely secretary at a time."
"Gunfire over Hoboken. Familiar to be the centre of it again. The target that is. Like an comedian hearing one last round of applause."
You missed out some really good ones like:
"There are two kinds of people: Those who spend their lives trying to build a future and those who spend their lives trying to rebuild the past."
"Her fashion sense didn't leave a whole lot of room for imagination. Let alone food."
"I might have written the book on bad ideas, but Passos wasn't afraid to quote from it. "
"The guy was smoother than an oil slick on an iceberg, and about as toxic."
"I'd been sitting at the bar for three hours, or five years depending on how you looked at things.''
Max Payne was a bit cynical and bitter in all 3 games, but he seemed a lot less intelligent and prone to angry outbursts in the third game. I enjoyed MP3, but I still preferred the Max Payne that kept his cool, mused over morality and human nature, and shot clever one-liners at his enemies instead of raging.
I think the point of Max Payne 3 was to underscore the major transformation of Max. Think about it. He tries to move on to a new life. He's still depressed and an alcoholic which diminishes his intelligence.
Tana Mongoloid Those facts don't quite explain the difference in character, he already suffered most of those tragic losses in the first MP game.
Tana Mongoloid I don't think you even know that you're right. Yeah, it's possible that it's a part of character development, but at the end of the day it's still just a rationalization.
Alcohol is an easy escape, and boozing makes you stupid.
Niagara as in you cry alot
ya, max payne 1 was the best. the second was good too. the third was nothing like the first two. I liked it, but I liked the feel of the first two. the dark, noir york city feeling.
Dillon Fortni three things that make Max Payne special to me: the graphic novels, the nightmares and the rain. I'll add the psychological deep narrations too :D
Dillon Fortni yeah factss
sao paulo is a clever setting.
a place that looks like paradise, but in reality, full of corrupt cops, criminal and poverty
@@theonlyplain good setting for an action game, just not Max Payne
You missed my favorite “cold as a walk in freezer, cold as a gun”
Anyone notice how the TV in Max Payne 2 basically describes Alan Wake's American Nightmare?
Wow. I guess I'm going to have to go back an watch.
And Kratos from God Of War and Hercules from the Hercules movie
I just found this today and thought it was amazing so here
Max payne talking to Alan wake in reference to a max payne remake I guess
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Watching these clips is like looking in a mirror. The reflection of a man you don't recognise. He looks back at you with judgement in his eyes. You can lie to yourself but he knows everything about you.
"Both of us knew how this would end. In Pain & Suffering."
7:45 The way max says 'EVERYTHING' reminds me of Gary Oldman.
RIP 😭
People always gotta complain. Even when something is good.
nah
yah
@@MaxPaynefan1 You do what u want and just complaining with nothing!!
“freaking zombie demons from outer space” will always be my favorite Max quote
One of the best narrations in a game.
Rest well James, you're a goddamn legend 🕊️
" My judgement might be lousy, But my hand is steady. "
" The insanity that comes with losing the life you'd built. "
" The way I see it there's two types of people, those who spend their lives trying to build a future and those who spend their lives trying to rebuild the past. "
That first quote is sooo damn good
I do disagree! Max Payne 3 was amazing. I don't care what anybody says I LOVED Max Payne 3.
It was decent game but a horrible Max Payne game.
3 was absolute garbage
@@clarencetuurngait7628 please elaborate
It was a good game, but they didn't understand Max Payne as a character. He's the version of a good guy that's in maximum pain. They way they wrote him he's just and angry action man killing people because they try to kill him and he's better at it than they are. If you have Max ever lose his temper or too much color in the world after the death of his family, then you missed the point of Max being dead inside living in a world that is fully corrupted by evil.
@@clarencetuurngait7628 you are more than that!!!
RIP to one of the best voices in gaming.
For me max payne 1 is still the best.. Maybe cause im still an innocent kid at that time, and not being coloured by anything else, the feelings running deep into my veins..
I really loved the energy and atmosphere of the first game too. He kept moving forward, without thinking much of the past. He wasn't depressed, he wasn't lost, he wanted blood. MP1 Payne is still the most badass of them all.
"He was trying to buy sand for his hourglass.. I wasn't selling any". That line's so frosty, you could freeze moonshine with it.
rip brother
What an amazing voice. His chemistry as Alex Casey with Melanie Liburd's Saga in Alan Wake 2 was great. He perfectly balanced light heartedness and seriousness
“Closing your eyes forces you to look at the darkness inside” not too many people understand Max the way that I do
8:20 Nice reference to the first game!
I know it's super late but remind me what does it refrence
@@xheadtuf5620 max referencing his shit eating grin he always had in the first game.
@@205Deelow oooh ok ty bro
R.I.P James McAffery..
The past is a puzzle, like a broken mirror. As you piece it together, you cut yourself, your image keeps shifting. And you change with it. It could destroy you, drive you mad. It could set you free.
I think one of the major turning points on why max payne changed some attitude because this one he has actually Passos on his side to talk to. Max Payne 1 and 2, he wanted to be alone, even when he was in the Police Department he stayed out of it and chose to go undercover.
the voice man...is so good
Playing Alan Wake 2 and came here for more of those MONOLOGUES of the same actor lol
"He was trying to buy more sand for his hour glass, I wasn't selling any." That line still goes hard.
RIP James McCaffrey ❤️
Rip James man your a legend man forever will be missed I’m scared now how the remakes for max payne will turn out without the original voice for max😢
Rip James I hope the remakes still have ur voice
FREAKING ZOMBIE DEMONS FROM OUTER SPACE!!
Honestly, I loved the dialogue in Max Payne 3. Less eloquent and more bitter and vulgar than before, but Max is getting pretty old and it's been 9 years of alcohol and painkiller abuse, so I can accept the change as long as he's still sarcastic and witty. Personally, I thought the swearing and out-of-character moments made him more human and relatable, but maybe that's just me. At least, he still has the same voice actor. I think it was mentioned somewhere that he realized that his brief relationship with Mona was just a desperate attempt to make up for the loss of his wife and child. Not sure if that means anything though...
I like your comment and how your sticking up for MP3's Max. Doesn't say that he lost his touch with the metaphors over the years. Probably cause of the booze and pills he's been taking for so long.
Fuck man, what a heartbreaking news...
He was just playing Alex Casey too...damn
This legend gets remastered! o/
R.I.P. legend 😢
I like phrase about fear which makes wings for people =)
I don't know about angels, but it's fear that gives men wings. Yeah
Okay, I love all of these games. The first has the, undeniable, best story. I bought a copy when I was like 8 ish because my father (RIP) and my older sister played it and I couldn’t hold a PS2 controller in my hands.
Max Payne 2 is a gothic romance and nowhere near as horrific and traumatizing as the first, but it’s decent.
I’ve beaten all of them by my self, but when Max Payne 3 came out on Xbox 360 and my dad didn’t get the controls and all.... I got the be the story teller. I love MP3 and I have hope they make more. I remember sliding down the end levels escalators while listening to Whatever (Chris Benoits theme) and wrecking enemies :3
One of my happiest moments, aside from Johnny and me walking home for 3 miles in a snow storm (LEAVING MY MA IN CAR NO LESS ... -.-) to play San Andreas... OR on the Manhunt mission where you’ve gotta get each level of execution in the prison level... I played for about 3 hours just stackin Smileys up at the camera before I found out he wanted the execution meter to be snuff level blood red...
ANYWAY
Love you to anybody has read this and allowed me to indulge in my childhood :3 Cheers mate, I love y’all lots
RIP to James McCaffrey
Thx for the nice quotes, also totally agree with this conclusion in the end
Rip legend
"I don't know about angels, but it's fear that gives men wings"
That's my favorite
Probably one of the most fun game series ever
No fucking way they ruined Max... what the fuck? This was a badass video until that shit at the end.
I'll go with Remedy's closure to the series, the note. Max gets to be with his family again"Honey, I'm home"! The one where Mona lives is also good, I like it because it's beautiful when the theme starts kicking in and Mona starts talking again! That, and because it will prevent Max from going to Brazil and all. I think the reason Max Payne wasn't talking in the mp3 ending was because it was the present, and Max was no longer narrating because he just told his story. That sounds cool aswell.
Mp3 has the best quotes
the thing is you have to understand max went through 8 years of solitary pain and despair and after losing everything he ever wanted hes become disconnected from the things that used to make him happy and the hope to have those things again. instead hes very cynical and hates himself aswell as the world around him. He is still very witty in this game although i recognise not as poetic, he focus more on his instinct in this one instead of thinking things through and describing everything*Part 1*
I'm surprised they didn't take the A Good Day to Die Hard route and have Max shouting "I'm on f*cking vacation!" a million times through the game.
My favourite quote “I don’t want to think about it, as I long I don’t, it could never happened” It perfectly summarised how people when they think undesirable thoughts. The title of the music also fit, Just forget about it.
RIP Legend
RIP. you made part of my childhood from your voice when i was too little to play that hard as game 😢
Best character and best writing in a gaming series.
In an nightmare every choice you make is a bad one. I gotta remember that
I'll admit, Max Payne 3 based on the gameplay alone has grown on me through repeated playthroughs. I have to hand it to Rockstar for upgrading the Max Payne gameplay and making the violence as sadistically graphic as possible. Shooting goons hasn't been more satisfying (Once you get used to the new engine).
It's too bad they didn't put as much effort into matching the same style and plot of the first two. I hate how Max slowly becomes more and more like a generic Bruce Willis action hero and...
Rip james macffrey your voice will be always remembered.
-There's a wall in the funhouse that has written REDDRUM, if you look back in the mirror it says "MURDDER" and a flamingo appears(the same flamingo from address unknown) saying "Mirrors are more fun than television"(you can see this quote written on walls in Max Payne nightmares)
-In the last nightmare Jim Bravura is showing you a dead body (yourself) and he says "The killer's looking for an answer, but he's looking for it in the wrong place.He should be looking for it in HIS OWN HEAD"
CONTINUE
Oh and can I ask how you got the 'fear that gives men wings' cutscene as a graphic novel panel at 1:38 ?
_"No Payne, no games."_
The for me is "take a cheap place and make millions with it" from Max Payne 3, thats how was Brasil back in the Day i not gonna lie, even Max Payne could see that apart from those who like to hear sweet lies from a president that stole and drinks littelly with their money....
I find your judgement rather unfair when you talk about Rockstar "ruining" Max's character.
Was Max not already ruined by his tragic past in the events of the first two games? If you expect him to still be "Classic Max" after all of his suffering, then your expectations exceed the capacity of an average human mind. And in spite of his time-altering powers, I'm confident in saying many people agree in saying that Max's humanity is what makes him such a great character. He's interesting and unique, yet we can relate to his vulnerabilities extremely well. But what irks me the most is how in the video description, you describe Max to be "out of character" in the third game. I think you misconstrue his character undergoing change with his character acting unrealistically given his experiences.
Is Max Payne 3 perfect? Of course not, but neither are the first and second games.
Just a bunch of Remedy cocksuckers who do nothing but bitch that Max Payne 3 took a different turn.
Hmm,time to report
Do you know how Poets of the fall got there name? Sam Lake wrote a poem called late goodbye and he asked the band to turn it into a full length song. They're called "Poets" because there first song was based on a poem. And "fall" because they played late goodbye for the Max Payne 2 the "FALL" of Max Payne.
When I first played the nightmare I didn't know there was a mirror in the hall-way, so it looked like their was another Max running towards me. It creeped me out so I started shooting at the "Other Max" for a good minute or two before I realized, that it was just a mirror. That's some good level design right there.
"I was a Ninja, my kung-fu was strong"
I also find it weird how in Max's nightmare in MP2, he chases a double of himself. And then you find out that Max was chasing himself all along when you see yourself in a mirror. "Mirrors are more fun than television." You know how in the nightmare Max sees himself dead on the floor with the words "She made me do it" on the wall. Well you could see pictures of that in the police station, it's weird.
R.I.P James Mcaffery
3 wasn't that bad. The most notable thing I noticed in 3 is that he is much more emotive and angry. However, in 1 and 2, Max is essentially recounting a story so it makes sense why he sounds pretty low energy about it. He's just saying it how it is. In 3, you see him actively participate in the story, so you see him react to things as he learns about it.
In tears
Though people will disagree with my opinion and that's fine, I thought Max Payne 3 was a pretty excellent game. I thought it was actually kinda clever making Max addicted to pain killers since in the past two games, you needed to pop pills to get health back. It's some pretty good background story telling, plus he feels guilty over Mona Sax, though his wife is dead and it is normal to want to move on. Max as a character has been through so much shit he can't find a break and as he aged he became more and more bitter at life. I mean if someone broke into your home, murdered your family due to a government cover up who used V to make them do it, then framed for the murder of your best friend I'd be pissed. Then you kill the bitch behind it and think you can move on but no, Mona comes back to throw a spanner in the works, you get framed for some pretty bad shit and your Russian brother from another momski decides to stab you in the back. Then after all that shit has blown over, some shit goes south and the grave of your beloved wife is desecrated by gun fire. And if that wasn't bad enough, you get to play the fall guy. If I was in the same situation then I'd be an angry, foul mouthed drunk who pops pills and wants to die.
I don't think people deny that MP3 was an excellent game, what they're saying is that it didn't do justice as an addition to the series that already existed with components that were fundamentally important to the series' identity. Had Rockstar started their own reboot of Max Payne that lead up to that 3rd game, the MP3 we know now would've been fantastically received.
The absence of Remedy's and Sam Lake's production was sorely obvious and needed to capture what they did in the first two games to finish it off (if that was even needed after Mp2). I'd have preferred Remedy to finish the trilogy with their own title and Rockstar reboot with their own one.
@Ethan Johnson stfu
Max Payne 1 and 2 are two of the greatest written video games of all time.
That line when he kills lupino,is the best thing in the game
Max Payne 3 also has some amazing quotes, Rockstar made Max Fat bald dude with a bad temper but that was a part of the badassness of Max Payne, I enjoyed with Max Payne 3, of course first two were amazing, but MP3 is also great game
max payne is one of the very few games that get better with each installment
"Your rights'll be read at your funeral." savage AF
Frankie: I'm Frankie 'The Bat' Niagra
Max: Niagra? As in you cry a lot?
😂 Despite Maxs pain, he still manages to retrain a pretty savage sense of humour
max payne 2 is still the best written game out there. More quotes per minute is not possible.
1:20 *OH THAT FUCKING DARK HUMOUR XD*
Max Payne? You mean Bruce Willis pretending to be Max Payne!
Bruce Willis with hairs
My favorite has always been “Niagara, as in you cry a lot?”
Wow, the writing took a huge dive in the third game.
Xqwzts Nah,
Pssh, only when you concentrate the rather sparse profanity of a 12 hour game and throw it at the end of introverted narration.
"I don't smoke."
Max Payne 3: *smonk*
Super awesome!!