2024 British Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast
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- Matt and Tommy discuss an action-packed British Grand Prix and whether McLaren threw away the chance of victory with both their drivers
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My husband commented during the race… “McLaren doing Ferrari things!”
To be the fastest on the track is one thing, to get the strategy right is whole another thing. They allowed undercut 2 times while leading the race and the 2nd pit stop instead of covering Max with hard tyres the went to cover Hamilton while they already lost track position. Like they are fighting Hamilton for the championship for God's sake.
He was not wrong
@@IvanIvanov-tn2iw its even worse, they had a medium that would have beaten both Max and Lewis, they even said how they had an advantage and then didnt put it on.
me as a norris "fan"back at work today the ferrari fan boy first thing he said to me mclaren took the ferrari strategist
Smart guy! Keep him 😅😅
But seriously McLaren had tge race come back to them multiple times after squandering opportunities;
Qualifying errors lost poke position, then rain came so they led the race, they got undercut with Norris and hung Oscar to dry (which was not possible in that rain 😅). The final two error was not pitting Norris one lap earlier and putting him on soft tyres.
Yes, yes they did. Especially with Piastri...they did my boy so dirty by not pitting him. Lewis' win cheered me up, but im still disappointed in McLaren for ruining it for Piastri
Once I realised Piastri wasn’t going to win, I totally wanted Lewis to win. Six different F1 winners in 12 GPs is way better than 2023.
Not the first time , becoming a trend.
100% what a blunder
@@michaelcobbinLmfao Piastri was never going to win. Even with a double stack, he comes out 5-6 seconds behind Norris and falls back even further because he is nowhere near as good as Norris in wet conditions.
@@manavkumar6590
Stupid
Other than the McLaren bottle, RIP Leclerc man sacrificed his luck for the entire season with that Monaco win
The curse giveth, the curse taketh away
He got bad Karma with that abysmal performance in Monaco GP. The GP was an insult to the whole concept of motor racing.
Charles should have been the one to go, not Carlos
@@biljancanin No.
@@ksey7144 Yes
"Becketts." "You mean chapel." "I just call the whole thing Becketts." -- This .. THIS coming from the "That's Raidillon Actually." boys is hilarious.
Logan beat Perez today. Granted he was 89 seconds off the lead. Perez though was two laps down in a Red Bull. Wow
How he keeps a seat with performances like this is beyond me. I really want to see Perez do well love seeing his fans and support at the races (especially in the US and Mexico) but geeezzzz
To be the most fair, Red Bull gambled on his strategy and went a lap down with him staying out on a dry track in inters
@@Dwilsonmusic145it seems money, but it’s not worth it if Red Bull doesn’t come 1st in the Constructors Championship.
It was very quite obvious that Redbull was testing their tire performances with Perez for Max. I don't think Redbull expected Perez to surge and hunt for any meaningful amount of points, therefore just used him as a test driver.
That's absolutely a bad excuse. He was sick behind another Haas once again on his first stint. Also at the end they put him on softs, maybe to get fastest lap and he still couldn't beat Carlos and was actually more than a full second slower than Max and Piastri on their older and harder tires @@Akaris001
I much prefer Max The Hunter rather than Max The Defender. That last stint for him was outstanding.
If only the race was 3 laps longer
Oh shut up.
@@nissan300zttwhy
Literally, on the final few laps I could just hear the Jaws theme song playing in my head as he was gaining on Norris!
See MADMAX! Losing a place in the race isn't a "Death Sentence" You don't have to crash another driver!!
I loved it when Bono was suggesting intermediate and Lewis straight away said nope meanwhile at Ferrari they already put intermediate tyres on Charles
This ticked me off ngl, Charles didn’t even dispute and he was the one on track
@disgruntleddev it's nit just Ferrari's fault I think charles has to be blamed too
@@disgruntleddev well yeah because HE CHOSE IT
Lewis going to Ferrari next year now feels scary and for the wrong reasons. Matt should try to apply to work for them
Lewis won't deal with Ferraris piss poor strategies. And Fred knows that! Leclerc needs to stop listening to thr Ferrari strat department.
@@nissan300zttExactly that
Everytime Sainz makes his own decisions, he does a lot better and I will never believe that Lewis will take that BS 😂. If anyone can fix Ferrari, it has to be Lewis, and if he can't then holy shit
I hope he builds a dream team and we have some close battles 26 and on.
Lewis and Charles need to ask for a second weather report for confirmation.
It shouldn’t be this hard to switch to the wet tires *when it’s wet* and switch to the dry tires *when it’s dry💀*
My race weekend doesn’t end until I watch P1’s race review! And we get 59 minutes for the British GP? Sweet!!!
Always want more!
Bro this is so true hahah
My race weekend is still not finished without Tommy's Tasty Tweet.
So true! Honestly though I love driver ratings ❤
Fun fact.
Ricciardo has 1 win in a Mclaren
Norris 1 win in a Mclaren
I think it's very fair to state that RIC is just way more effective at converting race win chances. He got a bunch when the RBR wasn't dominant. He barely sniffed pace in the McL, in his darkest hour, and just grabbed that win thankyouverymuch. Bit like HAM who's slow in a slow car but a savant when the car is actually strong.
I’m sorry folks but Ricciardo was given the win as Norris was told to hold positions
@@ralphe5842 No ralphe daniel wasnt given that win he couldn't be overtaken by either the mercedes or the red bull, keeping lando at arms reach was easy as pie
@@Cloxxki This is the main reason I want to see him in the 2nd RBR again. His ability to just be in the right position to snatch a win when others falter was just amazing, and exactly what RBR need right now. Don't challenge Max for wins, but be right there with the ability convert just in case
@@penguinjammer8522 No way HAM would beat Hulk at Haas, but also no way Hulk would do much better again HAM in the dominant Mercedes era than Rosberg did. Different teams, different outcomes.
Just wanted to give a small shoutout to Sainz. I believe the team was suggesting to pit after Leclerc, and Sainz refused. He also had his strategist call out the color of the rain, instead of talking in terms of intensity, which I think is so smart.
Well said, not only was he the more confident Ferrari driver throughout, he once again proved he'll stand up to the team if he thinks they're wrong or aren't giving him the info he needs while LeClerc just rolls over and accepts bad calls...either because Charles doesn't have the strategic mind to make the good call in the first place, or he just lacks the will to stand up for himself in the moment. It's been a thing throughout his career. Being the golden boy who can extract extra tenths on a lap is meaningless if you're on a strategy bleeding many seconds.
@@Trendyflute That's the difference in upbringing between Carlos and Charles. Carlos still has his dad, a racing driver himself, around to give him advice with his career. Charles doesn't have that any more.
@@Trendyflute go check the radios of the 2 pilots they didn't say the same thing chosen at the same time fred lies
@@Trendyflute Thats is so unfair, and you are either talking without knowing or just spreading lies, Carlos got told (correctly) that the rain was coming over in S3 and "it was nothing to worry about", while what Charles got told was "Heavy rain next lap, and ot will last for 10 minutes"
This aren't not the same and it so unfair you say he just rolled over.
Once again you guys to bring Carlos up need to put Charles down.
He doesn't need that, Carlos is an amazing driver by himself.
His strategy game is his redeeming quality. Otherwise, in 5 teams, he was never the leading driver by pace and results.
Not backing Piastri up and double stacking was such a weak move from McLaren and cost them the win.
Zak Brown doesn't delegate, he was playing God
I honestly think Piastri would have won. He was the fastest car on the track.
As Piastri's manager I would be furious with this call putting all the eggs in Lando's basket
They're splitting strategy because they have no confidence in themselves. They're acting like Ferrari.
@@ToffepeerTH Mark Webber says HELLO.
F in chat for Charles being multiple places BEHIND Sargeant
He still beat Checo though
@@jorritdriessen5728is that supposed to be a good thing?
It's not surprising if anyone finishes ahead of perez
@@coasternut3091 Gotta take the small wins when you can. He beat a Ted Bull. They are P1 in WDC and WCC. Thus means Charles did great. I think. Maybe
Yes they did, leaving Oscar out for an extra lap instead of double stacking cost him about 18-20 seconds, he also made the right choice on tyres (medium) when asked, Nando overshot his final stop, picked the wrong tyres and then cooked them. Lando showed his nerves a bit I think, Oscar showed again his calmness, but the McLaren strategists killed his chances.
Dont take this as Lando slander, he drove brilliantly, so did Oscar, its just mistakes were made.
If the pit was done right, he would not have to cook his tyres up. The pit was screwed by the man lando himself.
Lando and his team feed each other’s doubts and then mistakes are inevitable. Oscar is a silent killer, an iceman. He will be world champion one day, not Lando who should have matured by now. Andrea Stella and Zack Brown have been all over the media all week with childish attacks on Max. They have been silenced and humiliated on track.
@@opinionsarelike3865 So let me get this straight. Lando is comprehensively beating Piastri over and over again, and yet he's not championship caliber, but Piastri is? The hate towards Lando in the online space is truly sick.
Read the radio....they decided softs ultimately...lando said any slicks and they also said softs for Hamilton...medium to cover max....
@@cobratraps5299 it is because Lando is clearly the no1 driver,the strategy and everything is focused on him to win,most of the times that means Oscar is being sacrificed for Landos success,thats why he has a better score on Oscar,but he is bottled every single chance for win(part from yesterday,yesterday they were both royali ducked from the team)
I still can't believe that McLaren started off by ruining Piastri's qualifying by sending him out in traffic and having to race to the line with two other cars. And then they kept Piastri out for another lap where he lost probably 20 or more seconds which would've turned into at least a McLaren 1-3 or 1-2. He could've come out ahead of Hamilton and then Norris would've won and Piastri on the mediums was flying and he would've flown away from Hamilton or passed him within a couple laps. As an Aussie I am extremely disappointed especially because I stayed up so late at night for this.
And then Piastri took it so well. He started his interviews pointing the pros not cons. How mature he is?
Mate norris wouldn’t have won. He cooked his softs in 5 laps. He was always gonna finish behind lewis and max after the last stops were made. Look how far he finished behind lol
@@aubanurmi he is always looking at the bright side but he is always optimistic as well which is why he is my favourite also cuz i am an aussie
@@aubanurmihe has better mentality for sure. Just need to learn more about the race craft.
@@DanielGuarino-kr4co one Finn fan here!
Oscar was ice cold with the tire choice, medium the best.
Lando looked absolutely devastated, it's the same look Leclerc had every time Ferrari bungled in 2022, also almost on par as the look Fernando had in 2010.
Yup,the way he confirmed it like it was the only logical choice also shows he understands the race better than some...
If they double stacked Piastri and put a medium on Norris, they would have had 1-2. McLaren absolutely bottled it
Yep, and I think it would have been Piastri in P1.
@@lamsmiley1944 ^ 🫡🇦🇺
What a drive by both Hamilton and Verstappen, once more separating themselves from the field 🇬🇧🤝🏼🇳🇱
This win for lewis was very special 🥹🥹🥹🥹😍😍 and what a P2 for MAX. They both clearly showed why they are the best in grid and experience matters when you are at front.😊😊😊
I got my friend into F1 before the 2022 season. Its so weird for me to think this race was the first time he ever saw Hamilton win 🤯
It genuinely feels like any time Oscar is closer to Lando, McClaren screw him over. Not saying there's a conspiracy here because it would make literally no sense, but it's just insane how unjustifiably bad the decision making us around Oscar's strategy.
I think that Piastris patience and humble attitude will eventually run out with McLaren and that's when he'll turn into the championship winning monster that he's bound to become.
He's getting better and better every single race and while his tyre management is still not quite up there he's made leaps since he joined F1.
This is what happens when you don't understand F1. Not pitting Piastri turned out to be the wrong call, but at the time, it did make some sense. Why aren't you crying about Lando being put on the wrong tires at the end? Did McLaren sabotage Lando as well?
@@dereksbooksbecause it was Landos call. The team gave him the choice and he chose to cover off Hamilton with softs.
They know Piastri is a threat to Lando… I honestly think Piastri has more potential than Lando.
Piastri was _shaaaaafted_ mate, he was arguably faster than _Norris…_
As a McLaren fan, this race hurt to watch, especially as an Australian. Watching Oscar get completely screwed over by the strategy, despite not putting a single foot wrong all day was painful, and then fumbling the bag with Lando by being so indecisive about tyres, when it was blindingly obvious the fresh mediums would be better than used softs (Lando's engineer was so poor at communicating the situation compared to Oscar's). They threw away what should have been a 1-2, or at the VERY LEAST 1-3. They're not good enough yet
It was crazy to see how McL completely threw the race away with what seem utter lack of any strategy to their pitstop.
Even the commentators were baffled with what McL were doing. They literally calling out McL errors out live on air.
Guys trust me I hurt more after yesterday's race
McLaren strategists have no balls. Scared to do a double stack and afraid to make a mistake on tires so they make their driver decide. Everyone watching on TV knew what they needed to do, even with the live interview with Zack Brown!
So if they have no balls does that make them Max's mum?
I's pretty common to let the driver decide. Not their fault he made the wrong one
@@jaxteller8735 I was thinking Max was their father.
@@jaxteller8735 Definitely not your mum!
As an Australian, it's becoming incredibly difficult to support McLaren. It's becoming a joke with how many times Oscar's strategy ends up costing him wins/podiums.
Oscar lost almost 30 seconds by stating our 1 lap, give how he was matching Max's pace the last 10 laps, he EASILY would've won if they didn't screw him over
Oscar is basically a nobody. He has a lot to learn.
@@nissan300zttIf Oscar has a lot to learn where does that leave Lando considering Oscar made the right call on tires and Lando didn't?
@nissan300ztt Oscar? The guy who almost never makes mistakes, never makes bad strategy calls. As opposed to Lando who has single handedly cost himself multiple wins
Oscar wins that race if mclaren doesn't favor lando so much. Oscar deserves better...
@@TheMissiIeno. The teams calls have cost Lando many wins. I'm sure Lando thought today his race was with Lewis. Not Max.
The thing with Mclaren for me is, that Lando just seems to not be championship material. First he f**** it up at the start. Later he was asked when he wanted to box and how the track feels and he made the wrong decision. And then in the end Mclaren even told Lando that they have the advantage of the mediums compared to Mercedes and he made the wrong decision again. The last races perfectly showcase the difference between drivers in the Verstappen / Hamilton tier and drivers like Charles, George and Lando. The latter just seem to lack that kind of killer instinct and feel for the race.
As a Merc fan I was so relieved when Lando picked the softs
Plus he overshot his car on the pitstop costing more time
Yes he does f up the start it’s actually becoming a problem! But I don’t believe he lost that much time by staying out a lap longer… they had the pace to catch lewis, just not with the softs
no before he pitted the second time they told him they think the softs would cover Hamilton. The way the asked him they made it seem like the softs were the better option.
He isn’t WDC material and nor is Russell. Just British hype as usual. Piastri, LeClerc and possibly other new comers as title winning worthy. The rest on the grid rn wont win it barring the winners like Max, Lewis, Fernando
I had never cried during a sporting event until I saw Lewis Hamilton cross the finish line today. And then again when it showed him in tears hugging his dad.
There was a lot of healing that happened today because of that race ❤️
Mike, may I ask: were you born with XX or XY chromosomes?
I'm a man and I cried too!
@@Saiko-Johnny LOOOOOOOOOOOL
@Saiko-Johnny why does that matter? It's called emotion. I've seen the hardest MEN cry. Navy seals, marines, army Rangers.
@@Saiko-Johnnymanly man here everyone make way please
I think what's particularly interesting about this race and "driver team" synergy is on F1 TV we got to witness that.
Mercedes: "Lewis we're thinking about boxing this lap for inters"
Lewis: "No it's still dry"
Red Bull to Max: "Good call on the box for inters, we timed that perfectly"
Mercedes + Lewis and Red Bull + Max had excellent calls that came from both sides of the radio. I'm not sure what's happening at McLaren, sure they're a new race-win contender, but they're not a new F1 team.
The big mistake for Lando was good fault asking for softs, but from the radio message we heard he got pretty bad info comparing the options to Lewis or Max because of you had said do what Lewis does or Max does at the end with no other context than, obviously you should cover Lewis, but they should have been thinking about the tyre way more than who was on which one.
I have no idea what was going on with Piastri staying out an extra lap.
Toto actually mentioned on german TV that George's car was probably impacted by the water system failure way before they retired the car. So that might explain how he was so quickly overtaken by the others all of a sudden. Really sorry for him
He did drop pace surprisingly quickly
yeah, george said that the problem became noticable ten laps earlier which then resulted in loss of power and pace
I mean maybe but Hamilton overtook on lap 18 and George retired on lap 34 which is more than 10 laps. Also doesn't explain how the Mclarens were able to pass Hamilton as easily as they passed Russell
@@kityhawk2000 The Mclarens obviously had a lot of pace in the mixed conditions, as soon as the rain started their performance was a lot better than Mercedes (more grip maybe? better tyre temperature?). In the Mercedes recap they said that George had those problems from the beginning on and had to manage accordingly, but he really noticed it ten laps prior as a warning light started blinking. But I'm actually sure that he made a mistake into turn 15 because Hamilton gained a lot suddenly after passing that corner. I think someone also said on the radio that George had gone off, but I don't know for sure. Being the first car is a bit tricky in such conditions as you cannot follow the line of the car ahead. He did start gaining on Hamilton afterwards and had to build a gap again because of the planned double-stack, but who knows for sure, they didn't show it on the broadcast.
The 2 best drivers with the most experience of the 4 top teams floated to the surface in this racers race with changing conditions and strategy calls needed etc.. Hamilton and Verstappen..
And the 2 best teams with organisation and strategy, Red Bull and Mercedes..
Yeah their expertise and raw skill made all the difference
I know it's been a long day for you guys, so thank you for posting the reaction. I'm so sad for Piastri, I really hope he can get a win by the end of the season
Didn’t double stack with Piastri
Last pit stop for Norris was 4.5 seconds. Bad call for soft tires for last stint with Norris.
Ferrari level strategy mess up.
Should’ve won or at least double podium.
Lando went long and that is why the stop was 4.5 seconds.
@@sread833 ah thank you. So driver error on top of everything.
A hundred percent. Mclaren had a great car and pretty good drivers, they should work on their strategy as well. This just emphasizes for me how much of team sport F1 truly is.
Mclaren have been setting themselves up pretty nicely the last two races in terms of tire options. Their in-race strategy leaves so much to be desired that it negates everything they prepare for pre-race.
Ferrari strategist incoming
I am of two minds.
After Sochi, I cannot believe Mclaren are still allowing Lando to make his own calls. The team has the data. They can see what other teams are doing and what the lap times are. The team should make the call, not Lando.
But then, Mclaren makes the calls for Piastri and they screwed him over. So there you go.
Dont know which one is worst them or ferrari 😂
but in the dry and wet mix condition, it is actually the driver's call. Radar map just sometimes don't show the story. All team were trying to get the drivers to come in earlier than the optimized windows. Leclerc didn't object, Hamilton, Verstappen and Sainz did. Look how differently their race turned out.
Russel was not quicker than Hamilton in the drys, it’s a habit for Lewis to maintain a 1.5 sec gap to the car ahead to manage tyre la then attack later which he dis
Yeah and Lewis said it and so did Bono. They were managing...Russell could also have bene managing too but Lewis was massaging his tyres.
@@brownbabyuk10 yes, george was also managing, at least that's what they've been saying on the radio. I think everyone was because of the expected rain. Their sector times were almost identical for what I remember.
The tyre care abilities are poles apart too. I’m still waiting for my girlfriend (who has no idea about F1) to ask me why I don’t treat her as nicely as Lewis does his tyres.
@@Heathen.Deity. 😂
"McLaren's season is going very Ferrari 2022" Ouch
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So it meant Red bull and Max will dominant the second half of this season like 2022 and in 2022 was close aswell like this year first half lol
@@user-wy5xe6ht2mMaybe, that would be something 😂
@@user-wy5xe6ht2m mercs are there and mcl will tune themselves
@@lostmind24jajaja sure you right and who know so let's wait and see lol
Quite the battle between Ferrari and Red Bull today, Leclerc and Perez that is!
Bunch of scrubs… Ferrari strategy and Perez that is.
I like Perez but he shouldn’t have gotten that extension.
Also there was a fierce battle between Ferrari and McLaren! Who can screw up the strategy most?
The thing is like it is kind of justified for Perez to try something different, he was nowhere at the start and if he would gain like 10 places, it would have been a points finish 100%. But Charles was 6th or 7th, in his case it was 6-8 points or nothing. He had nothing to gain from that gamble because they are just not quick enough. It's time to realise that you are either scoring a small amount of points every weekend or you are a laughing stock every race weeekend. It's just sad
@@Simon-nf4sf The thing with Perez was that at the time of the pitstop he was around P13, with really good pace, he was looking to finish at least P8. I believe perez good pace at the beginning of the race made Red Bull put the hard on Max for the last stint
Absolutely, especially with Piastri. Not telling him to back up so that they could double stop, and not sacrifice him to lose a whole pitstop gap by the next lap, or even pit him before Norris, definitely cost them the win.
Verstappen and Red Bull have shown today why they are the benchmark, especially Red Bull. Despite Verstappen being slower than the two Mclarens and Mercedes, through spot on strategy and pitstops they managed to get second in the race while pushing for the victory. Similar to first half of 2022 when the Ferrari was faster but they constantly beat them operationally and through Verstappen's flawless driving. Norris's mistakes and Mclaren's poor strategy cost them a 1-2 today.
Max was even slower than Carlos at one point
Amen
At Perez expense. They tested the tyre with Perez. The inters and the hards. In some way, max hard tyre on the last 10 laps was from data gathered from perez.
@@greggianbayocboc pretty sure they'd preferred Perez up in the mix for podiums rather than using him as a glorified testing subject.
@@greggianbayocbocSure
You can believe that 🤦🏻
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yes they Prioritized Lando over piastri who clearly showed better pace after the pit stop he was even closing on max.
Tbf, it makes sense to prioritize the driver in first place.
@@lukew6725 Can box both, merc did it!
@@lukew6725 there was no such thing as "prioritizing" anybody this race, yet McLaren still tried it.
He had better pace before the pitstop too. Caught Lando in the rain without DRS and was about to overtake him. Caught Sainz back up from a 20 second gap on inters. 2 seconds faster than Norris after the final pitstop.
@@RockSolitudeWrong. Oscar was only 5 second behind Carlos when he came out of the pits not 20 seconds. And he struggled to overtake him even with a 2 lap tire advantage. It is unlikely that he would have been able to get passed max on the inters either which is where he would have been had they double stacked the pit stop. And even with the better tyre compound on to end the race he was only able to gain about 5.5 seconds on Lewis with Oscar have virtually clear track in front of him for the whole last stint. If he had to fight max early on had he been closer it is highly likely neither would have caught Lewis.
Is Zak Landos personal trainer? He follows him all the way until he straps in.. That increases the pressure on Lando.. Zak should focus on team strategy
He's probably whispering Max hate in his ear the entire way. Zak should focus more on McLaren and his CEO duties than on Max and RB...
Max extending his lead in these last 2 races is actually insane to me and it also shows where his priorities are.
In Austria after the crash, you could see Lando hurrying back to the pits so he could finish in a high position, but Max on the other hand was taking his time around the track to make sure the car was in one piece so he could finish the race and secure points.
Ya lando destroyed his car by driving too fast.
The fact Max somehow finished P2 despite being P5 and nowhere at some point is still a reminder why Red Bull got all but one win last year. They can have the 3rd fastest car, but Max and the race strategy just made the difference to somehow make things work despite the difficulties. But if anything that says more about why it's really important Checo needs to be at the front. Checo is now 6th in the standings and one strong points finish next race for Lewis and George while he doesn't score could throw him down to 8th in the next 2 races.
Forget about Russell and Lewis, he needs to be worried about Hulkenberg, Hulk is catching him quickly
@@fingerprints2983lol
Every time Max gets a podium and not a win everyone claims the car is one step lower lmao. Next it'll be "well, the Red Bull was the 4th fastest car" and so on...
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Because that's reality. Any of the other teams in the top 4 are starting to catch up and be either just as fast or faster. It's not like this is some one-off race where Red Bull weren't the quickest.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMANit was idk what race you were watching. Mercedes was fastest then McLaren and Redbull quite a bit back
Nobody understands why they let piastri do another lap. How would that be faster than wait a couple of seconds for a double stack.
Not to rival the pomi
Nobody seems to realize that team orders prevents logan from defending against albon. Logan was ahead of Albon after the incident and then Logan was stuck behind Alex double stacking 9.7 second pit to fix the damage. There ya go.
Lewis told the brazilian reporter that he didn't think he could win again, and it was a relief to know that he didn't need to accept that
Piastri deserves huge props for not binning it driving that extra lap in ridiculous conditions especially when at turn 1 he knew the call was wrong & his fight for the win ruined.
All McLaren bottles of the race:
- Piastri not double-stacked
- Used softs over new mediums
- Lando pit a lap too late.
They need a better head strategist: Hannah Schmidt would not let such thing happen (Max went for hards with only 12 laps left which was best choice apparently)
It was the best choice for Max but then again Lewis made the softs work.
@@kityhawk2000 "Made the softs work" is a bit relative as he had new softs opposed to Norris's used softs, and Lewis was still losing time (almost 6 seconds in 12 laps).
"I just call the whole thing Becketts." "That's Raidillon actually." - same guy
I'm wondering if the spygate technical information that McLaren stole from Ferrari had all of the race strategy guides in it.. I was in tears laughing when Lando left the pits with soft tires when we all knew he had brand new mediums..
Why is Lando making the decisions he seems like a nice guy but he doesnt seem like the brightest bulb 😂😂
Spot on
Exactly
Called skill issue
My sentiments exactly 😂
It’s insane to let him pick a tire. Use the damn data.
I didn’t get a chance to see the race live, and I was already spoiled with who won, yet when I saw the highlights I was amazed. And seeing Lewis hug his dad at the end almost made me cry, so much emotion involved with that win. Also winning the same race 9 times is insane.
This is basically ASMR. More hotels lads. I can drive around and do work while listening to this.
Yeah I agree, the excitement still comes through without the volume
Max winning this years driver's championship will be more impressive than last years' domination. Several races now he hasn't had the fastest car, and his teammate has been nowhere.
More impressive yes but not exactly epic. He still has no real rival consistently battling him for points. This season is kinda like 2019 where Mercedes dominated several races and built a comfortable cushion but other teams and drivers were able to snatch wins in individual races. If the gap to Max starts closing up 40 or 50 points I will take this back bit right now he still looks nailed on to win the championship
This season has been so magical - Carlos comes back after illness and wins, Lando has is first win, Charles wins Monaco, and Lewis wins Silverstone - all against the Max Vastapan too!
Mclaren is lucky Russell’s water system broke, probably wouldn’t have even had a podium if he was still in the race
I agree. Blunder on McLaren and Lando. Oscar seemed to be playing the team game. I felt bad for him in this race.
I don't think Russell would've podiumed. P4, if not P5 behind Piastri. Russell makes mistakes under pressure.
@@CDNChaoZ he literally won the last race lmao
@@deeznoots6241 He was cruising in third and got lucky. Put pressure on him and he crumbles.
When I heard it, at first I thought it was the drink.
I’ve never been a Lewis fan but this felt right
Thank goodness you clarified lad we were all wondering who you never a fan of lol
He worked hard for it.
Still not
@@twosnakseyou're the one who's clearly outing himself as a max fan here 😅
@@twosnakse thank goodness you clarified lad we were all wondering if you were wondering who I was never a fan of lol
Maclaren pitt stop calls screws Piastri again!!
He will get fed-up with it
They screwed lando as well. Mclaren seem to always mess up rain strategies
@@pietervanbreda4360 He should sign with Merc. They're improving.
Three blunders by MClaren, not double stacking Piastri, leaving Norris out that extra lap, and not putting Mediums on Norris.
Maybe 2 by McLaren and 1 by Norris
@@kwizzledizzle4513 you win as a team and you lose as a team.
@@nickofzo true. But people seem to be blaming McLaren for the tyre choice as if they forced Lando and let him down....🤷♂️
@@kwizzledizzle4513 They effectively asked do you wanna go for the win (Soft) or cover the guy you passed easily earlier on (Med). The comms was rubbish (which includes Lando). Drivers are always gonna pick to go for the win. Engineer shot himself in the foot as any attempt to get him on Med after that sounds like they are giving up on the win.
@@tombarnes2652 yeah, I heard more of the conversation and it seems they both kinda left it in the air and because Lando said sofst at first they just went with the softs. They seemed to be waiting for the other to make the call for a bit.. kinda like me and my buddy trying to figure out where to go for lunch, 'Greek? Sounds good. Chinese? Yeah sounds good too....' 🤷♂️
GET IN THERE LEWIS! -Bono
Lewis calling max a ballhogger is the pot calling the kettle black. He was in the dominant car for 8 years in a row winning everything and now he's being a sore loser when someone else had 2 years of domination
it's literally just friendly banter between them, just like when max said lewis is getting old when he was chilling on the interview couch. How can you take something that was an obvious joke so serious?
McLaren slaughtered Oscar
Lando quickly realising that it takes more than having the fastest car to win races and championships as showcased by Max/Lewis today - both Merc and Redbull maximised their opportunities with good tyre/strat calls and great driving by their respective champions Lando on the other hand bottled the tyre choice on that final stint. His dijected demeanor post race and during his interviews you could see the self reflection on the continual poor decisions he and the team are making that are costing them victories. You'd think that Sochi would have been the wake up call to learn from his mistakes but here we are another race where he should have won under changable conditions and he finished third.
It was also a massive bottle job from McLaren with both stops I don't klnow what they were thinking not double stacking Oscar which ended up costing him a potential win. Zak and Andrea need to stop taking to the media moaning about Max and Redbull and look at their own short comings if they're seriously thinking about mounting a title challenge. To me McLaren is no different to Ferrari, they have all the ingredients there to mount a title challenge but when the pressure builds they quickly crumble.
Piastri was in the DRS of Lando for many laps during the dry period of the race. Absolutely bottled the race with both cars. Either of the Mclaren's could and should have won.
Not pitting Piastri had a bigger impact, but at the time I wasn't expecting that much of a difference. I think everyone and their dog knew going to fresh mediums was the obvious thing to do, how McLaren didnt just say "Box for Mediums, lets win this" is astonishing.
Seeing Lewis' tires after the race, can see how very on edge that win was. Another lap, and Max might have him. Also Hulk in sixth, again! Also Lance beating Alonso just straight up. It was just such a great race.
Lando does this a fair bit, he makes a call without looking long term or big picture or what ever vague cliché term you prefer... The only thing separating him from the likes of Max or Lewis is the big brain stuff. The complete awareness they have that allows them to dominate. Mclaren cost Oscar today, but Lando cost Lando... I'm sure he will get better, someone just needs to sit down with him and show him all the times he made a costly call and try and find a way he can learn from them.
Or Max and Lewis have a significantly better strategy team and that’s the actual reality.
Lando is leading a race and driving in wet conditions. He’s driving flat out because he already lost the lead due to staying out.
That is completely not the time to burden a driver with choosing the correct tyres. McLaren have all the information how the other soft Tyre runners did early in the race, Lando does not.
I half disagree and half agree; McLaren did a really hamfisted job of peppering the drivers with too much information in too little time and expected the drivers to make sense of it. The team-driver combos that got it right (e.g. Max-RBR, Lewis-Merc, Sainz-Ferrari) had a much more focused amount of information going to the driver and trusted their feedback after the team had already done the work to simplify things. But Lando has also demonstrated a Russell-like tendency to just try to do something different even if it's worse, which he should work on.
The way it was presented to him was absurd too. "Cover Lewis or Max" he's always going to pick Lewis ahead when Max has been on the back foot all weekend. Lewis took the only tyre they had, Max asked for hards and they were suggested to him. Oscar said obviously mediums. Lando had bad info from the radio message we heard and he made the wrong call
What mclaren need to do is stop asking the drivers what tyres would they like too have like it's asking at a restaurant what would you like to eat & just tell them instead right we are going on mediums for your next pit stops no ifs & buts about it.
@@paperplane-db8qf They do have better strategy teams but that's not the actual reality. The actual reality is the fact that Max and Lewis make far better strategy calls THEMSELVES and have greater awareness and significantly better race IQ. Both Lewis and Max made their own calls today when to pit and when to switch to inters and slicks. They made those calls themselves and they picked it exactly right both times. Mercedes even said to Lewis on the radio: "we're ready, hit the pit button when you're ready and we'll be there". They literally left the last pit and strategy up to him. They haven't won multiple WDCs between them for nothing.
seeing lewis win just made me tear up
Same
My son and I were at the main stage in the pouring rain for your show! Thank you so much for sticking around so long to meet us - you guys were soaked!! You were the highlight of the weekend for my boy… until the race happened (he’s a HUGE Lewis fan). Second place is pretty good on a weekend like that though. Keep up the amazing work guys!
McLaren did the same sort of terrible strategy before they were at the front, even back in the Norris and Ricciardo days, they just weren't in the spotlight so people only made fun of Ferrari.
Charles made the call to pit, Ferrari did not mess up the strategy, Charles did.
McLaren bottled it twice. - Didn't stack Piastri and then again with Norris tyre choice. if they stacked Piastri wins, if they go medium on final tyre Lando wins - double F up is inexcusable.
George did not gap LH by 2 sec. LH was always behind him biding his time.
There was lots of swearing in Australia between Midnight and 1.30am ...
This race has shown why Lewis is 7-time-champion and why Max is currently best driver by far. Lando and McLaren still have a long way to go. The best car is NOT the only thing you need to win more than one or two races. The driver and the team must be champion worthy.
It really does feel as though lando is the favourite child and oscar always ends up with the worse decisions and strategy
12:50 To be fair, looking at Ferrari, there's a real chance it might be his last win.
1-2-3 British starting grid, all 3 led the race at different stages, and a Hamilton win. Pretty fun for the crowd I imagine.
Come do a show in Montreal as well.
This episode has been one of my favourite podcasts to listen to, so entertaining under quiet conditions and all the giggles, drama, story, predictions. Loved every moment!
When I was looking at Oscar today I saw Verstappen-Brazil-2016. Extrodinary drive, fearless commitment getting grip where noone else could. It was so hard seeing Norris pit & Oscar stay out, because even before Lando went in completly Oscar was already losing advantage to the point where I believe we've seen Russel being 4th car in the row pull into pits and Oscar still hadnt gone through that corner. Even after all that when he knew he lost potencial win he stayed cool, he said on team radio that Medium is the ONLY good choice where Lando messed it at the end again. Its hard to watch and think what could have been for Oscar because for most of the race he looked like the quicker & better McLaren
I'm probably the biggest and a generally speaking level headed Hamilton Fan, and when russell began to pull away in the beginning of this race, I came to peace with it was over. I've had 8 to 9 near death experiences, (a lot of very deadly, very uncommon allergies, plus one or two car related incidents) and the "oh I guess this is it" and the surprising peace that comes with it, was what I felt, in the first time not in a near death experience. I'm a grown man and I cried when he crossed the line, almost by surprise in fact, I too question the Ferrari move, but Sainz is doing okay, and Sainz is a more consistent driver (in good times and bad) than Leclerc is (sorry Matt). I wouldn't at all be surprised if part of Lewis break from Mercedes and Sainz's delay is that there's a performance clause.
Logan Sargeant got P11. Instead of saying hey good result, that was a good race... you crap on him again. Is it impossible for you to just give the guy credit for a race well done? Does he deserve to lose the seat? Yes. Does he deserve to be shit on? No.
Now ratę P1 as a team. Are they Alpine or Stake😂?
Meanwhile Lando did a lot of fails again, and He's still SOOO GOOOD MAAAN... Nope, He's not... With Max, McLaren will now lead the championship. Even with Russell, who is amazing this year. And honestly, I think even Hülkenberg will have at least as much win as Lando (1)... Too much mistake.
@purokujunior4720 what fails exactly? Qualified 3rd, overtaken at the start cuz had nowhere to go, had good pace. Mclaren pitted him too late and on the wrong tyres
@@ade7czif you heard the Red Bull radio call max actually made the call for a tire switch himself to inters, lando has the power to make the same calls but tbh just isn’t the racer that max or Lewis is. I love lando tbh and there’s nothing wrong with that, many consider those two the greatest drivers to exist.
I had a sign which got rain damaged so couldnt show you on the P1 liveshow. "Cheering on anyone who can Verstopp'em" and that race really was. I was cheering when a new race leader came on. What a race.
The emotion at the end as Lewis crossed the line was crazy. Bono crying over the radio, Lewis crying, his dad crying etc, 😭
I’m getting more sure that matt actually doesn’t watch the races at all and creates them in his head. Charles LOST around 7-8 seconds behind Carlos, that’s why he decided to pit…
Actually getting frustrating watching this guy bash Ferrari everytime leclerc fucks up. Ask yourself, why does Carlos almost always have a better strategy (even though he is the one being sacked)? Because Carlos makes better race calls than Charles
McLaren hurts. I thought that was 100% in the bag. Eventually Lando has to stop almost winning and just start winning
fr. i love and hate being a mclaren and lando fan
I was truly touched to hear Lewis emotionally opening up and in the post race interview allowing the world to see his vulnerability in the struggle of self doubt that most of us face in varying degrees. That takes courage.
I really enjoy listening to your chats about F1 💚
One thing that came to mind during this race a picture of Matt trying to keep a basket full of papaya colored eggs from falling on the ground... The moment he goes all in on McLaren, they start doing Ferrari things haha.
F1 is so back when the podcast comes before tasty tweets for the second time in a row!
There will be 7 different winners, Oscar will get his win. 6 of the top 8 fastest cars(checo included) has won. Oscar deserves it, McLaren owes it to him!!
Team is so focused on lando, I doubt it will happen. Piastri was 0.4 seconds behind Lando before first stop so British race control deactivated DRS to prevent a disaster. No thought goes into any strategy on Piastri's side, all eggs put in one basket.
McLaren probably think otherwise unfortunately. They only care about Lando at this point, Zak has put all his eggs in the Lando basket.
@@de1623 y‘all need to stop with the conspiracy theories. I know it’s easy to have such an excuse for why things are not going your way in your head but it’s obviously not true
Teams deciding compounds for drivers like Hamilton and Max with 100+ and 60+ win and Mclaren discusses compounds with Norris.
You can only trust three drivers with a tyre decision on the whole grid, Lewis, Max and Charlos. All other drivers need a firm decision from the pitwall. So even if drivers made the tire choice and it didn't pan out, it's still the teams fault for even trusting them with that decision.
I'm not a big Hamilton fan but my wife and I found ourselves cheering for him in this race. Winning in front of your home crowd is truly something special. It's the first time I teared up a little at the end. Truly sad for what happened to George as well. So glad Lando didn't win and was soundly beaten by both former and current world champions. His time will come, but not yet. I also absolutely hate his demeanor after losing a race. We've observed that for several races now. I get being self-critical and wanting to do better, but do it with confidence and class, not the absolute self-pity on display after every race. That's just pathetic. Piastri is a much more likeable character even though his team keeps screwing him over in favor of Lando.
Piastri got robbed
Admittedly I am a pro-Max. But the British GP showed that it takes more than the fastest car to over take make it stick and win .Lewis showed that he is still great at management tires and Max showed that with racecraft and a little patience you can overtake. McLaren was too confident. They just assume that they can beat Red Bull each time on pure speed and it hasn’t worked out. Now I don’t even know how Lelerc doesn’t just quit. That man deserves an extra 67mio just for the pain
Refreshing to see at least some reporters out there admiring Yuki's talent this year
To answer the thumbnail: yes. They did. Horribly. Not even Lando or Oscars fault. They were driving a brilliant race.
But they obliterated Oscars race and Lando had the likely best tire available in the crossover and they said "naw, we dont like victory at home"
Lando picked the softs himself. McLaren messed up by even presenting it as an option, lately they seem to be letting the drivers pick these strategies. But Lando definitely made the wrong choice too.
Defo lando's mistake he made the call on when to box
@@Android480 well in those conditions it should be drivers choice, but I think he over thought it because they told him Lewis was on softs, so he felt he had to.
@@Benjamas- RUnning mediums with 13 laps to go was still a far better choice. the MCL heats up tyres pretty quick
Max again best driver by far. Getting second place in the third best car, what a monster.
May be recency bias but what more could we want from a race to make it one of the best?
Fight for the lead, fight for podium places, dry-wet-dry, good overtakes, strategy, pole winner dnf drama, top team bottling strategies (McLaren), weak team masterclass (Haas), LH storyline.
Hands down top 10 LH wins
Dear mister Vasseur, what the hell is going on in your shop?
Almost the same weather we had at the Canadian GP. Cold soaked and then blasts of pure sun heat. And repeat!