I would have to say that this video helped me a lot. Keeping the sensation that your body is leading (pulling) the bike was a perfect analogy for me. I really concentrated on being forward (over) the bike as I was accelerating up the face. The only time I would stay back is if I was decelerating up the face. I cleared my fist tabletop on Saturday and man...what a great feeling. I will say that if you are starting out and only going half way on the table top jump be sure you accelerate off the face...have your head over or in front of the bars and give it some throttle on the landing. When landing on any flat surface really work on accelerating just before landing. It keeps the bike from rebounding once you land and drives the energy forward instead of right back up into your feet and hands. The difference in feel is really incredible.
Good comments man.. Im ALWAYS feeling like im hanging on for dear life when the bike pulls me over a jump.. This weekend im going to try this exact stance. Oh, i also land with the gas completely off because im frozen in the air from the bike already pulling away from me.
proper way to learn a jump. pick a table top with mild take off angle. Ride it standing up knee bit bent a few times without jumping. Once you feel comfortable, and ready for the jump. Maintain a constant throttle which you are accelerating. Not the constant throttle that you are coasting. DO NOT close or abruptly squeez the throttle along the way. Maintain the throttle is the key. Start by a small yet accelerating throttle. slowly increase your take off speed once you are comfortable with it. Little by little. Don't get greedy, the track will bite back. If you are athletic, 3 days you can clear a simple table top. double take months or year to master. It is unforgiving. One mistake = broken bones.
This one video explains so much. I always feel like im haning on for dear life when i jump. Im also always ass down in the rear of the bike when im in the air. Can not WAIT to try this.
I was really fortunate to have tape every indoor an out door AMA motocross race from 1989 to 2001 on and had a vcr that had super slow motion so i could memorize body position frame by it really helped much like ur showing....faith helped
thank you, enjoyed your video. i have great trouble achieving height and distance to clear jumps. i follow other riders and often i approach faster than them, yet they easily make the down ramp or make the double. i dont, often not even close! i keep the throttle even on the face so i dont have a front high problem, maybe i am not accelerating on the face enough? thanks Peter
Nice work i started racing in 1987 road racing then motocross in 1988 even then jumping was really 5 guys were the elite...mcgrath henry lusk...larocco emig..these few guys were the only ones who had all covered...may be a one or 2 others but of the top 100 national riders 6 guys had there act together i flag AMA supercross for 10 years so i got to see it up close i was shocked when i figured out the body position that mcgrath used...an the trick to coming up short...how to handle it...thanks well done good slow motion an talk...most older riders jump like a boat anger moving back on the bike actually kills the jump distance....an is bad for landing short
Yes you do... however it will feel like you are less forward because the bike comes up from underneath you a little bit, and so from the side (if someone looks at you), you will look more centered - but you as the rider, you maintain that position. Please start on super small jumps because it's really easy to endo practicing this. You have to feel it, and work your way up.
Thank you. I've finally found something useful to start with. This helped me understand the kinetics of the thing, and I appreciate the fact the video didn't just tell me to pin it in 3rd and try not to fuck it up.
In my opinion, you shouldn't need to lean before you hit a jump, what you need to do is work on controlling the wheels, if you ride up to a jump and let off the gas as your front wheel goes over, your back will slow down and you will land on the front wheel, if you drive up to a jump and after your front wheel is over you give it more gas, this will make your front end come up, do this until you get a feel for how much gas you need, this is how I learned, if I would keep it in 3rd gear and go about 30, then give it more gas as I was leaving the jump, I found u would land more smoothly than just leaning
"3rd gear and go about 30" idiot. Im sure you ride well, but your comment stunk when I got to this part. 3rd gear on what bike? what setup? what cc? What size fucking jump? c'mon dude. To anybody who read this horrible comment, hes right about the gas off the lip. keep a smooth acceleration. To learn a jump, try and pace a rider who doesn't do anything fancy in the air off the jump and just hits it naturally. Match your speed to them as you approach and you know that at very least you and your bike is going to clear to the landing. What happens in the air as you attempt it is up to you, and you alone. Be safe, have fun, and keep that bike un-scuffed.
***** actually my 3rd gear comment is good for ALL bikes. Why? because that's the gear that will be using the "neutral' part of the powerband of your engine. that's just a reference... don;t get too carried away. go about 1/4 throttle in 3rd gear whatever bike and it should be a pretty slow speed. thats' good.
"3rd gear on what bike? What setup? What cc? What size fucking jump?" Fine, if all your concerned about is the exact specifics... this will only work on a 1992 cr125 that has bored out to exactly 134cc. You must be using hp2 oil mixed precisely at 36:1. The jump must be a table top 11 feet 3 inches across with the take off at 25 degrees, and the landing at 20 degrees. This will only work with Dunlop sand tires inflated 1 pound less than manufacturers recommendations. The red plastics kit works the best, but some people have even had success with a black plastics kit. Make sure your rear brake is worn down to about 30% so you dont accidently lock the tire after landing. Do not attempt this if you have an aftermarket clutch perch, it will not work unless it is oem. Spray paint your left footpeg blue and the right one green, then go out and buy yourself a renthal sprocket, they are lightweight and wont throw your balance off in air. And finally, keep the bike at bike at EXACTLY 2789 RPMs at takeoff. There, is that specific enough for you?
I appreciate the video. All this stuff happens at speed. Getting comfortable and starting small is key. If you think too much, that's a problem. My opinion is that the head position is key, yes the body will follow. The faster you ride the more your head is above or in line with the bars. Throttle control is key as well. For beginners. 👍
Thanks man, I know see where I'm going wrong. I'm one of those old codgers you describe, just started riding again in my mid 50s, haven't been on MX bike for about 25 years. In photos I'm just as you describe, arms stretched weight well back, looking like I'm about to crash. Gonna try and get my weight forward and hopefully I will improve. Cheer.
Guys I have a question about that position in the take off... To incline your body forward in the take off I should loosen my knees and slide to the tank and for that, squeezing with the boots ?
3rd gear. Rule of thumb: Try to be in a gear that does not rev the engine too much. It's a lot easier to control when the motor "is at rest" so to speak... especially when you practice a technique like this.
Great vid. I used to race around a field when I was a teenager. Now in my forties I'm on my bike again and am taking it to the track. I've only been on the track four times and am trying to use the techniques in this clip to try and head off bad habits before I get into them. I really feel these tips have helped me - moving forward at jumps I feel like a part of the bike rather than like I'm fighting it. Feels good! Question: I ride tracks where it's mainly deep sand. I understand it's best to keep the weight back on the bike in sand. So do I still move as far forward at the jumps? Thanks.
no. in deep sand you don't move as far forward because you don't want the front wheel to sink in before take off. Be more neutral in deep sand. good luck!
I used to race MX back in the 70s & 80s. Back then you would land on the rear wheel off the jumps because the front suspension could not take it. When I tried to jump a modern bike using that same technique I almost looped it out. Your Vid was very helpful in understanding what I was doing wrong. Thank you #688b
dreamstarusa Had a friend watch me as I practiced this technique. After a few attempts I finally got comfortable landing on the front wheel. Forward on the face then staying with the bike "Centered" in the air. Making adjustments to my landing angle by moving my weight either froward or aft. Thanks again. "Over The Hill Gang" member #688b
Limoman7 Just saw this... YT comments are hard to find thru all the crap... Anyways... good job!. Yeah, it takes time to find the proper weight placement. When you find it, it feel "perfectly centered" even though you are leaning a little forward! Keep it up!
Ok so my name is Dustin I'm on my grandpas CZcams but anyhow this is a great vid I'm 12 and I starters ridding dirt bikes at around 10 years old and stuff I can't ride that often but I race and sometimes I'm so anxious that I kinda get scared to jump and stuff but when I jump I almost fall all the time I norm catch myself but when I loose control I realized that's it's because keep leaning back to far and I hit that throttle when I do I make it uneven. So yeah. Well next time I ride my Kawasaki 85cc I'll try this. I got a really big feeling this will work. Thnx dreamstarusa!!!
Thanks dreamstarusa this technique helped me improve in about 10 minutes of ridding. If you have any more tips on motocross please share them on CZcams.Thanks
Great video, I do have a question about accelerating, do you accelerate all the way through the face of the jump and let off when the back wheel is in the air? I've heard you blip the gas on the lip of the jump too, I'm just confused how that bit works and why it does.
Great video? Did you watch it? If you don't know a stupid put on when you see one, just keep your stupid opinion to yourself. You don't have to be a nice guy just to be a nice guy. All I see is stupid people everywhere............help me.......
first you have to do it on really really small jumps to get the feel for it. The answer is, you let the bike ride underneath you as you hit the face... it's done really suttle .. good luck
How I use the clatch and the gas in the take off of a jump ? Do I just need to let the gas off ? And also, how the gears work while we are on the air? If I jump with the 4th gear, should I change into the 2th gear just before the landing?
iaso dim regarding your "gas and clutch" comment.... Don't use the clutch on the face of the jump. You should have your speed already once you hit the face. Use a small jump, and i recommend 3rd gear - come in with your speed already, and MAINTAIN the throtlle constant til you leave. Regarding your "gear" comment. You could go from 4th to 3rd in the air - yes. or from 3rd to 2rd in the air, but that will slow you down a little at landing, so perfect for a corner. In some case, yes from 4th to 2nd is fine. good luck
It's a good video, leaning that far forward means you're probably a bigger fan of accelerating in the air than braking to correct your position huh? Anybody know any good videos on how to correct the other way? I'm having problems getting the front end to come down.
dreamstarusa Well, I CAN do it, as a last ditch effort, but I have a nasty habit of not getting the clutch in in time and stalling the bike, it all comes down to pretty close timing in the air. I'm just wondering if you might have any tips for keeping the front down off the lip, because I can make pretty large corrections in the other end.
so simple yet briliant, every time i jumped it felt like the bike would almost leave me, like im going up and the bike is going forward which is what would happen if i had ever tried a big jump, thanks
Someone help me, I have been riding for almost 8 years now, but I never rode on a track, ever before. I have never even set foot on one up until this past weekend. I rode my 16 CRF150F around the track a few times, and it was very fun. Since I was a beginner, I didn't do any of the jumps, I just rolled over them. Keep in mind I was on the youth track, so the highest jump was about 5 feet high. My friend kept encouraging me to try the jump, so I finally said I would do it. There was some CR85s, CRF150Rs, and even the CRF125F trail bike was hitting the jump like a race bike, and he did pretty good. So I got set up, and I gunned it when I was about to hit it, and as soon as I hit it, I barely even got any air because my front wheel immediately came down first, then I lost control and crashed. Is it my bike or is it me?
Buy a new 250 four stroke tho. A used one will have an engine that's a time bomb. Four strokes are expensive to rebuild if the previous owner didn't do his 30 hr maintenance regularly.
im new to MX, and have a KX 125.. im pretty confident around the track, and cornering seams to be where i am best, But jumping is an issue.. Where i ride, there are some big jumps, 25ft+ table tops etc. I find that every jump i do, i seam to endo in mid air, really badly.. my body weight isnt forward like on this video.. if i had my body that far forward, id be thrown over the bars.. I have to physically lean over the rear mud guard just to keep my bike level in mid air! Anyone help??
Lol I must be doing it wrong my first jump was a hella big tabletop with a wall for a face and I caught like 20 feet of air when I jump I just jump and hope to god I land straight and level and I am 7\10 times
yes, very much. You should be standing the whole time, and make sure you are not standing at the last minute.... come in already standing up so you are not rushed. Sitting (or seat bouncing) is an advanced technique and should not be attempted by beginners.
I stand for the take off and landing but when I'm in the air I start to sit down if I don't under stand what I mean watch the video on my Chanel of me jumping
your neutral position will be ahead of the bike to counter acceleration forces. This video is correct in that sense. Depending on how you hit the jump and what you want to get out of it, you need to adjust your body to stay "neutral"
Also keep in mind.... for the sake of making my point, and making people understand, I have slightly exaggerated my body position. But the concept is the same.
joshjamesguitar sorry I just saw this.... jumps with little runs are not good choices for practice. When you practice, you want a very "easy setup" so you can concentrate on the technique at hand. That being said, if you don't have anything else, you could try if the face is not steep. The key is to start small. Good luck!
I agree with the OP. Every pro video says you should specifically not do this. Go watch ANY video from jeremey mcgrath or ricky or any of the pros. I think ill take their advice over yours
First, you HAVE to stand when you hit the ramp. It's necessary, because if not, you will fall on your face. Jumping while sitting on the bike is another technique.
You realize that every single pro technique video says to NOT DO what you are telling people to do in this video? Look at any of the Jeremy mcgrath tips from a pro videos and he specifically goes over a neutral body position for jumps
Actually Jeremy is the king of riding forward.. even while jumping. He's my ultimate idol, and I have watched and analyzed him in slo-motion over and over again... the thing is... this technique is done so quickly that it doesn't look like you're doing it when you watch from the side line. The reason you see it here is because the footage is stopped... if you slow down footage of Jeremy on the faces... it usually looks like this as well... but feel free to try and report
dreamstarusa Wrong, it depends on the jump. Not all tracks have jumps that give you enough time to set up, like coming out of a corner and so on. And some jumps are just easier to seat bounce. It depends on your riding style and the rhythm you have going through that section.
Keep in mind this is beginner tutorial... so we're talking about jumps with a long run before them... I'm trying to keep it simple for beginners... seat bouncing is fairly advanced and it is not covered here.
I'm 6'2 and I feel your pain ! Like jaeden said , you can get handlebar risers. I personally don't have them , but what I do is try to stand right before my front wheel goes over ( obviously not fully standing lol ) , and I keep myself at a height where I am off the seat but my knees are still bent . Also try to keep yourself centered , if you're too forward u could nosedive , or if you're too far back you could wheelie.
independent thinker716 you can still stand but it wont look like me. you don't have to be straight. you just need to have most of your weight forward. start slow please.
The basic way to hit a jump is to understand balance. Position focused advice like this simplifies too much, and leads to poor understanding. If you are accelerating very hard, you should be forward (head out past the clamps even). If you have a BTL clutch, and coast into and off a jump...or coast off on a 2 stroke...you will be more neutral. If you are coasting with a 4 stroke (engine braking) or on the brakes, then your body will be back (head still over the clamps...but hips back). The basic way to approach is to be in balance such that you are not pushing or pulling on the bars. If you are in this degree of balance, the remaining adjustments can be made by doing what Ty says. As the front wheel leaves...you FEEL the bike pitching forward (endo) or back (nose high). Then you react by shifting your body and using the throttle to get the attitude right just BEFORE the rear wheel leaves the face. It is a split second...but in that time period as the bike unloads...you can make a lot of adjustments. When you learn balance, position becomes a RESULT of you feeling where you need to be. Instruction that tells you to 'hold' a certain position is wrong, simplistic, and dangerous.
The position taught in this tutorial will teach the students about balance. Over time and repetition, he will learn what the perfect body position is for each instance you have mentioned.
My 1st thoughts is that , This over-weight novice dude made a successful jump without breaking his freakin neck and is now trying to teach! Notice that the word “momentum” is never or even uttered.
Meanwhile all MX schools insist on jumps being taught after a few to several lessons.... well for the men at least. Seen women getting to learn jumps their first time at an MX school with only street riding under their belt (the guys with riding experience still have to take a few lessons or more just to get to jumping). this is why I'm against riding schools if they're gonna pull this double standards BS.
I would have to say that this video helped me a lot. Keeping the sensation that your body is leading (pulling) the bike was a perfect analogy for me. I really concentrated on being forward (over) the bike as I was accelerating up the face. The only time I would stay back is if I was decelerating up the face. I cleared my fist tabletop on Saturday and man...what a great feeling. I will say that if you are starting out and only going half way on the table top jump be sure you accelerate off the face...have your head over or in front of the bars and give it some throttle on the landing. When landing on any flat surface really work on accelerating just before landing. It keeps the bike from rebounding once you land and drives the energy forward instead of right back up into your feet and hands. The difference in feel is really incredible.
+Robert Snyder Thanks for the update. Good job!
Good comments man.. Im ALWAYS feeling like im hanging on for dear life when the bike pulls me over a jump.. This weekend im going to try this exact stance. Oh, i also land with the gas completely off because im frozen in the air from the bike already pulling away from me.
Robert Snyder of
proper way to learn a jump.
pick a table top with mild take off angle.
Ride it standing up knee bit bent a few times without jumping.
Once you feel comfortable, and ready for the jump. Maintain a constant throttle which you are accelerating. Not the constant throttle that you are coasting.
DO NOT close or abruptly squeez the throttle along the way. Maintain the throttle is the key.
Start by a small yet accelerating throttle. slowly increase your take off speed once you are comfortable with it. Little by little. Don't get greedy, the track will bite back.
If you are athletic, 3 days you can clear a simple table top.
double take months or year to master. It is unforgiving. One mistake = broken bones.
+golferchin76 I agree with everything you said 100%. thanks!
went to a track for the first time yesterday, never jumped on a bike before. i cleared a table top, my motto is just hold on nigga lmao
golferchin76
I should have red this comment 4 months ago :(
Top comment mate,One mistake=broken bones..
These videos really helped I went to milestones mx in riverside California today and noticed a huge a difference
Thanks for this instructive video i've been wanting to do motocross and this video really helped me with jumping.
Thanks for this description! Im going to apply thia to my riding!
This one video explains so much. I always feel like im haning on for dear life when i jump. Im also always ass down in the rear of the bike when im in the air. Can not WAIT to try this.
I was really fortunate to have tape every indoor an out door AMA motocross race from 1989 to 2001 on and had a vcr that had super slow motion so i could memorize body position frame by it really helped much like ur showing....faith helped
This video helped me a lot. Thank you
Thanks a lot man. Much appreciated
Grill vid but in Wales their ent meny supercross tracks there is most endo track but apart from that its brilliant idea how to do it
Thanks a lot! Starwest, Perris, CA
thank you, enjoyed your video. i have great trouble achieving height and distance to clear jumps. i follow other riders and often i approach faster than them, yet they easily make the down ramp or make the double. i dont, often not even close! i keep the throttle even on the face so i dont have a front high problem, maybe i am not accelerating on the face enough? thanks Peter
One of the best explanations I've seen so far! This looks like this is the track in Perris?
Great video
Nice work i started racing in 1987 road racing then motocross in 1988 even then jumping was really 5 guys were the elite...mcgrath henry lusk...larocco emig..these few guys were the only ones who had all covered...may be a one or 2 others but of the top 100 national riders 6 guys had there act together i flag AMA supercross for 10 years so i got to see it up close i was shocked when i figured out the body position that mcgrath used...an the trick to coming up short...how to handle it...thanks well done good slow motion an talk...most older riders jump like a boat anger moving back on the bike actually kills the jump distance....an is bad for landing short
this help me alot
Yes you do... however it will feel like you are less forward because the bike comes up from underneath you a little bit, and so from the side (if someone looks at you), you will look more centered - but you as the rider, you maintain that position. Please start on super small jumps because it's really easy to endo practicing this. You have to feel it, and work your way up.
Thank you. I've finally found something useful to start with. This helped me understand the kinetics of the thing, and I appreciate the fact the video didn't just tell me to pin it in 3rd and try not to fuck it up.
Anytime!
Love your videos dude, very easy to understand and straight forward, by far the best online! \m/
+Adam Howes thanks for the continued support
man.... you are fucking stupid......
Great!
I had my first race today at riverdalems and yesterday was first time on a track and hadnt ever jumped before but i was sending it
hi guyz, what proper gear should engage when jumping.
what speed to have a high jump level
thanks.
In my opinion, you shouldn't need to lean before you hit a jump, what you need to do is work on controlling the wheels, if you ride up to a jump and let off the gas as your front wheel goes over, your back will slow down and you will land on the front wheel, if you drive up to a jump and after your front wheel is over you give it more gas, this will make your front end come up, do this until you get a feel for how much gas you need, this is how I learned, if I would keep it in 3rd gear and go about 30, then give it more gas as I was leaving the jump, I found u would land more smoothly than just leaning
"3rd gear and go about 30" idiot. Im sure you ride well, but your comment stunk when I got to this part. 3rd gear on what bike? what setup? what cc? What size fucking jump? c'mon dude. To anybody who read this horrible comment, hes right about the gas off the lip. keep a smooth acceleration. To learn a jump, try and pace a rider who doesn't do anything fancy in the air off the jump and just hits it naturally. Match your speed to them as you approach and you know that at very least you and your bike is going to clear to the landing. What happens in the air as you attempt it is up to you, and you alone. Be safe, have fun, and keep that bike un-scuffed.
***** actually my 3rd gear comment is good for ALL bikes. Why? because that's the gear that will be using the "neutral' part of the powerband of your engine. that's just a reference... don;t get too carried away. go about 1/4 throttle in 3rd gear whatever bike and it should be a pretty slow speed. thats' good.
dreamstarusa anyone who listens to you is in for an ambulance ride.
"3rd gear on what bike? What setup? What cc? What size fucking jump?"
Fine, if all your concerned about is the exact specifics... this will only work on a 1992 cr125 that has bored out to exactly 134cc. You must be using hp2 oil mixed precisely at 36:1. The jump must be a table top 11 feet 3 inches across with the take off at 25 degrees, and the landing at 20 degrees. This will only work with Dunlop sand tires inflated 1 pound less than manufacturers recommendations. The red plastics kit works the best, but some people have even had success with a black plastics kit. Make sure your rear brake is worn down to about 30% so you dont accidently lock the tire after landing. Do not attempt this if you have an aftermarket clutch perch, it will not work unless it is oem. Spray paint your left footpeg blue and the right one green, then go out and buy yourself a renthal sprocket, they are lightweight and wont throw your balance off in air. And finally, keep the bike at bike at EXACTLY 2789 RPMs at takeoff. There, is that specific enough for you?
Ty Schmidt you make an ass out of yourself that was awesome. You also made my point knuckle dragger.
stand up, do not sit.
Will this keep you from going now heavy
Thank you saved me and my bike some pain in learning that he hard way. Again thank you sir.
+James Paz great news. thanks for letting me know
I appreciate the video. All this stuff happens at speed. Getting comfortable and starting small is key. If you think too much, that's a problem. My opinion is that the head position is key, yes the body will follow. The faster you ride the more your head is above or in line with the bars. Throttle control is key as well. For beginners. 👍
How you making out now?
Wow !!! It worked for me ,I watched this video probably 40 times 👍🏻
Thank you
Thanks man, I know see where I'm going wrong. I'm one of those old codgers you describe, just started riding again in my mid 50s, haven't been on MX bike for about 25 years. In photos I'm just as you describe, arms stretched weight well back, looking like I'm about to crash. Gonna try and get my weight forward and hopefully I will improve. Cheer.
How you making out on jumps now?
@@bunnyman6321unfortunately he passed away from the very bad endo
thanks
thanks.
I just sit on my dbike regularly and it usually makes me stand up and I rap fine, is that the right way to jump
Good video but I’m really scared to try to clear one. I can get a little bit more than half way. Could someone help me out please
Guys I have a question about that position in the take off... To incline your body forward in the take off I should loosen my knees and slide to the tank and for that, squeezing with the boots ?
3rd gear. Rule of thumb: Try to be in a gear that does not rev the engine too much. It's a lot easier to control when the motor "is at rest" so to speak... especially when you practice a technique like this.
Good videos (1+2) dude and well explained....will be trying it out soon ! Cheers.
+Rob Mcwilliam Thanks. I appreciate that!
it all depends on the jump, if its a triple then a higher gear if its a very small table top or double not such a high gear.
Great vid. I used to race around a field when I was a teenager. Now in my forties I'm on my bike again and am taking it to the track. I've only been on the track four times and am trying to use the techniques in this clip to try and head off bad habits before I get into them. I really feel these tips have helped me - moving forward at jumps I feel like a part of the bike rather than like I'm fighting it. Feels good! Question: I ride tracks where it's mainly deep sand. I understand it's best to keep the weight back on the bike in sand. So do I still move as far forward at the jumps? Thanks.
no. in deep sand you don't move as far forward because you don't want the front wheel to sink in before take off. Be more neutral in deep sand. good luck!
How you making out now?
cool
I used to race MX back in the 70s & 80s. Back then you would land on the rear wheel off the jumps because the front suspension could not take it. When I tried to jump a modern bike using that same technique I almost looped it out. Your Vid was very helpful in understanding what I was doing wrong. Thank you #688b
Thanks, and keep us posted with your progress!!
dreamstarusa Had a friend watch me as I practiced this technique. After a few attempts I finally got comfortable landing on the front wheel. Forward on the face then staying with the bike "Centered" in the air. Making adjustments to my landing angle by moving my weight either froward or aft.
Thanks again. "Over The Hill Gang" member #688b
Limoman7 Just saw this... YT comments are hard to find thru all the crap... Anyways... good job!. Yeah, it takes time to find the proper weight placement. When you find it, it feel "perfectly centered" even though you are leaning a little forward! Keep it up!
im pretty sure any gear can rev the engine if you are going fast enough.
I don't understand your question. "I rap fine"... what does that mean? please clarify
Ok so my name is Dustin I'm on my grandpas CZcams but anyhow this is a great vid I'm 12 and I starters ridding dirt bikes at around 10 years old and stuff I can't ride that often but I race and sometimes I'm so anxious that I kinda get scared to jump and stuff but when I jump I almost fall all the time I norm catch myself but when I loose control I realized that's it's because keep leaning back to far and I hit that throttle when I do I make it uneven. So yeah. Well next time I ride my Kawasaki 85cc I'll try this. I got a really big feeling this will work. Thnx dreamstarusa!!!
+Chris Cummings thanks for the comment. please follow up
thanx buddy spot on i get it simple , i'll still crash but its all funn :)
Thanks dreamstarusa this technique helped me improve in about 10 minutes of ridding. If you have any more tips on motocross please share them on CZcams.Thanks
+Hawkes Bay Moto thanks for the positive comments
Great video, I do have a question about accelerating, do you accelerate all the way through the face of the jump and let off when the back wheel is in the air? I've heard you blip the gas on the lip of the jump too, I'm just confused how that bit works and why it does.
Great video? Did you watch it? If you don't know a stupid put on when you see one, just keep your stupid opinion to yourself. You don't have to be a nice guy just to be a nice guy. All I see is stupid people everywhere............help me.......
Wait, so don't lean forward approaching the jump?
When leaning foreward like that, how do you keep the bike from doing a nose dive when it leaves the ramp?
first you have to do it on really really small jumps to get the feel for it. The answer is, you let the bike ride underneath you as you hit the face... it's done really suttle .. good luck
Thank you so much for this video! Now i see why I'm like "what the hell am i doing" when taking off on the big jumps.
very good xplanation
michael joe Awesome! Glad you enjoyed. I have another one called PART 2. In my opinion, it's much better but it has less views .
ur welcome I'll be glad to share it..
FUCK THIS IM JUST GONNA COPY WHAT RONNIE MAC DOES
mr.impulse lmao fucking send it
hahaha could you imagine bogging out at a fucking 90 degree angle....guys fucking crazy
mr.impulse he’s insane and it’s great 😂
How I use the clatch and the gas in the take off of a jump ? Do I just need to let the gas off ? And also, how the gears work while we are on the air? If I jump with the 4th gear, should I change into the 2th gear just before the landing?
iaso dim regarding your "gas and clutch" comment.... Don't use the clutch on the face of the jump. You should have your speed already once you hit the face. Use a small jump, and i recommend 3rd gear - come in with your speed already, and MAINTAIN the throtlle constant til you leave. Regarding your "gear" comment. You could go from 4th to 3rd in the air - yes. or from 3rd to 2rd in the air, but that will slow you down a little at landing, so perfect for a corner. In some case, yes from 4th to 2nd is fine. good luck
It's a good video, leaning that far forward means you're probably a bigger fan of accelerating in the air than braking to correct your position huh? Anybody know any good videos on how to correct the other way? I'm having problems getting the front end to come down.
Does air braking not work for you? It's a good technique. I personally only keep it as "plan B" but it's used a lot! Good luck!
dreamstarusa Well, I CAN do it, as a last ditch effort, but I have a nasty habit of not getting the clutch in in time and stalling the bike, it all comes down to pretty close timing in the air. I'm just wondering if you might have any tips for keeping the front down off the lip, because I can make pretty large corrections in the other end.
so simple yet briliant, every time i jumped it felt like the bike would almost leave me, like im going up and the bike is going forward which is what would happen if i had ever tried a big jump, thanks
yeah it's a nice feeling once you get it right!
Wow
I tried to ride a wr400 like a sports bike, I very quickly learnt it's not a road bike nor does it handle or brake like one.
+Oldman pup be careful with such bikes
This is the track right outside of Denver right? 70&470. Private track? Wanna ride there
no. this is STARWEST MX PARK in s Perris, CA.. now called Lucas Oil MX PArk
Someone help me, I have been riding for almost 8 years now, but I never rode on a track, ever before. I have never even set foot on one up until this past weekend. I rode my 16 CRF150F around the track a few times, and it was very fun. Since I was a beginner, I didn't do any of the jumps, I just rolled over them. Keep in mind I was on the youth track, so the highest jump was about 5 feet high. My friend kept encouraging me to try the jump, so I finally said I would do it. There was some CR85s, CRF150Rs, and even the CRF125F trail bike was hitting the jump like a race bike, and he did pretty good. So I got set up, and I gunned it when I was about to hit it, and as soon as I hit it, I barely even got any air because my front wheel immediately came down first, then I lost control and crashed. Is it my bike or is it me?
Its you try pulling up or jumping like this guy said
you probably let off the throttle just before you jumped
618 Kicks Thanks, yeah that was the problem. I have a jump at my house now and I hit it every day like nothing
I have no pit crew for tomorrow's race at Milestone MX park 9-29-13. If you live in the LA area and want to be "it", pm me.
I'm 32 5'8 205 pounds what would be best for me for my first dirt bike and have in mind I had street bikes
Ignoring brands, I would agree that a 250 four stroke would be a good fit for you.
Buy a new 250 four stroke tho. A used one will have an engine that's a time bomb. Four strokes are expensive to rebuild if the previous owner didn't do his 30 hr maintenance regularly.
be safe is the word , my friend broke his neck 3 weeks ago , on a little jump .. he did the scorpion ... be safe guys , go step by step
The first time I ever rode a dirtbike I hit a jump and I wish i knew this earlier, i held the gas and leant back...
do you have to be in a certain gear?
i would start in 3rd
im new to MX, and have a KX 125.. im pretty confident around the track, and cornering seams to be where i am best, But jumping is an issue..
Where i ride, there are some big jumps, 25ft+ table tops etc.
I find that every jump i do, i seam to endo in mid air, really badly..
my body weight isnt forward like on this video.. if i had my body that far forward, id be thrown over the bars..
I have to physically lean over the rear mud guard just to keep my bike level in mid air!
Anyone help??
You're probably closing the throttle before you jump
yeah i do, i roll off the throttle.
i thought it was only 4 strokes that you have to keep throttle applied a little, due to engine braking?
cheers
gamerdude1989 ye wait till your back wheel is about to take of then let of the throttle
Lol I must be doing it wrong my first jump was a hella big tabletop with a wall for a face and I caught like 20 feet of air when I jump I just jump and hope to god I land straight and level and I am 7\10 times
+SICK BRO hey now!!! relax buddy! Remember what I said... you need to start super small... barely getting off the ground to get a feel for it.
Thank you I think I got it now lol I hadn't watched this video yet so I just went at it wide open and hoped for the best thank you lol
@DontTreadOnMe give it a little throttle, and the front wheel will go up.
for now, just focus on your body position... but you're right.
Does it matter if u stand or sit in the air after the Take off?
yes, very much.
You should be standing the whole time, and make sure you are not standing at the last minute.... come in already standing up so you are not rushed.
Sitting (or seat bouncing) is an advanced technique and should not be attempted by beginners.
I stand for the take off and landing but when I'm in the air I start to sit down if I don't under stand what I mean watch the video on my Chanel of me jumping
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Hey. I'm 5'6 and im 136 pounds, and 17 years old. What bike would fit me?
(I'm up for both 2-stroke and 4-stroke)
All dirt bikes are the same size 125 and up.
yz 125
Fun or speed?
riding a twostroke is more fun!
but a 250f gets you faster with less effort!
Yamaha DT 125 or YZ 125/250F
I love to jump but broke my foot on my dirt bike
Every other video i watch they Said have à neutral position om the bike wen you leave the jump
alright then.... let me know what works for you Naakeri!
your neutral position will be ahead of the bike to counter acceleration forces. This video is correct in that sense. Depending on how you hit the jump and what you want to get out of it, you need to adjust your body to stay "neutral"
Also keep in mind.... for the sake of making my point, and making people understand, I have slightly exaggerated my body position. But the concept is the same.
joshjamesguitar sorry I just saw this.... jumps with little runs are not good choices for practice. When you practice, you want a very "easy setup" so you can concentrate on the technique at hand. That being said, if you don't have anything else, you could try if the face is not steep. The key is to start small. Good luck!
I agree with the OP. Every pro video says you should specifically not do this. Go watch ANY video from jeremey mcgrath or ricky or any of the pros. I think ill take their advice over yours
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First, you HAVE to stand when you hit the ramp. It's necessary, because if not, you will fall on your face. Jumping while sitting on the bike is another technique.
ktmriki7 you are correct. sit bouncing is advanced only
Seat hop .... May be required if there's not enough run up to the jump .... just sayin
what is endo?
+Erik iSkogen it means landing front wheel first... potentially going over the bars
Moval in the house...
Watch how Ronnie Mac jumps and do what he do
Starwest? In Perris?
Sarwest!
It looks like you either sat down or let the bike come up to you once you left the takeoff. comments on this?
I'm 13 5,6 130 pounds what bike should I take into consideration
It depends what do you want a 2-stroke or 4- stroke??
lol no it doesnt get a 125
I’m about to hit my first jump today it’s a 20 foot jump with a face like a wall I’m just gonna Russian roulette it. If i fall I fall.
Thus video
You realize that every single pro technique video says to NOT DO what you are telling people to do in this video? Look at any of the Jeremy mcgrath tips from a pro videos and he specifically goes over a neutral body position for jumps
Actually Jeremy is the king of riding forward.. even while jumping. He's my ultimate idol, and I have watched and analyzed him in slo-motion over and over again... the thing is... this technique is done so quickly that it doesn't look like you're doing it when you watch from the side line. The reason you see it here is because the footage is stopped... if you slow down footage of Jeremy on the faces... it usually looks like this as well... but feel free to try and report
Check front tire pressure LOL
omg I wish I have a bike and compleate gear
michael joe thanks for commenting.
you lay to mucth forword
I feel like I’m going to go over the back like I did one time and almost crashed
How you making out now?
Who are you referring to as "older guys" who jump wrong? Most of the older guys have great technique.
Is it better to sit or stand during the takeoff?
Stand.. absolutely!
dreamstarusa Wrong, it depends on the jump. Not all tracks have jumps that give you enough time to set up, like coming out of a corner and so on. And some jumps are just easier to seat bounce. It depends on your riding style and the rhythm you have going through that section.
Keep in mind this is beginner tutorial... so we're talking about jumps with a long run before them... I'm trying to keep it simple for beginners... seat bouncing is fairly advanced and it is not covered here.
Mike Nechvatal well seat bounces are not something you can do on big jumps.. so for jumping you should be standing
Does it matter in air if u stand?
Dang my number is 219 as well😂 and I thought I was unique
Mine is 612 had my first race to day
I see it took one person to say the wrong thing about this video and it all went to hell after that. Lol
apsghostseeker glad you guys are talking! see you at the track...
Ok.. what do you do if youre 6'1". I cant stand straight up like that
Handle bar risers my friend.
you want to be in the attack position, never want to be standing straight on a motocross bike
I'm 6'2 and I feel your pain ! Like jaeden said , you can get handlebar risers. I personally don't have them , but what I do is try to stand right before my front wheel goes over ( obviously not fully standing lol ) , and I keep myself at a height where I am off the seat but my knees are still bent . Also try to keep yourself centered , if you're too forward u could nosedive , or if you're too far back you could wheelie.
independent thinker716 you can still stand but it wont look like me. you don't have to be straight. you just need to have most of your weight forward. start slow please.
Ha thats funny my house is in the background
+Matt Post hey now!
I made like an actual kind of good Jump..... By a mistake. xD
The basic way to hit a jump is to understand balance. Position focused advice like this simplifies too much, and leads to poor understanding. If you are accelerating very hard, you should be forward (head out past the clamps even). If you have a BTL clutch, and coast into and off a jump...or coast off on a 2 stroke...you will be more neutral. If you are coasting with a 4 stroke (engine braking) or on the brakes, then your body will be back (head still over the clamps...but hips back). The basic way to approach is to be in balance such that you are not pushing or pulling on the bars.
If you are in this degree of balance, the remaining adjustments can be made by doing what Ty says. As the front wheel leaves...you FEEL the bike pitching forward (endo) or back (nose high). Then you react by shifting your body and using the throttle to get the attitude right just BEFORE the rear wheel leaves the face. It is a split second...but in that time period as the bike unloads...you can make a lot of adjustments.
When you learn balance, position becomes a RESULT of you feeling where you need to be. Instruction that tells you to 'hold' a certain position is wrong, simplistic, and dangerous.
The position taught in this tutorial will teach the students about balance. Over time and repetition, he will learn what the perfect body position is for each instance you have mentioned.
My 1st thoughts is that , This over-weight novice dude made a successful jump without breaking his freakin neck and is now trying to teach! Notice that the word “momentum” is never or even uttered.
don't be dissin old guys, i noticed you don't grip your bike with your knees, bowinkle
wtf
Don't be so mean to this guy I did it i crashes but I got back up and did it again then I would nail it so don't be mean
Adan Cisneros Adan, thanks for the support. see you at the track!
Best way to learn to jump a motor bike.
Watch a different channel......
I can’t believe you are actually proud of that footage
Meanwhile all MX schools insist on jumps being taught after a few to several lessons.... well for the men at least. Seen women getting to learn jumps their first time at an MX school with only street riding under their belt (the guys with riding experience still have to take a few lessons or more just to get to jumping). this is why I'm against riding schools if they're gonna pull this double standards BS.