Actually Satanists and Cannibal were the same candidate. Jair Bolsonaro was caught on camera in a masonary house (which conservative brasilians deemed as satanists) and talking about eating an indegenous man (which is plain cannibalism), he also gave an interview saying that he felt a spark between him and a 13 years old colombian girl (which makes him a paedophile).
I dream of the day when devil worshippers and cannibals can put aside their differences and focus on important issues like alien abduction and werewolves...
You forgot to mention that Lula was convicted by a judge that months later would become Bolsonaro's minister of justice. The same judge was briefly running for president this year.
Sergio Moro (the judge) sentenced Lula in july 2017. Bolsonaro invited Moro to government after he won the election in oct 2018, mainly by popular aclamation because the then judge, as a Minister, could do more against corruption. This refutes that the judge had political intentions at the time of the trial.
Latin America is, as a whole, in a crazy pendulum politically. Every country seemingly hates its current government, then elects the opposition, and they hate them too. And Congresses almost everywhere have no mayority. It's depressing. Here in Chile people looooved Boric in his campaign and whilst he was preparing for the presidency, but now he's unpopular. I think things will go alike in Brazil with Lula. We're up to deadlock in every country (only Uruguay seems to be well) and that is terrifying for democracy
Quick question: What's your opinion on what happened in Chile 3 years ago with the constitution and all that? I always thought Chile was doing fine, but then that happened and now things seem to be going down hill. Is there some context I'm missing?
I think that says more about the circles you run in. Nobody I know in Chile liked, much less loved, Boric. They were all tearing their hair out when he won. Just like most of Brazil is tearing its hair out now.
Brazil is a different case altogether. Lula had been in power before and he was particularly popular then. Even when he was wrongfully jailed, the people still loved him. Sure, with the rise of the far-rightoid in Bolzie's regime, he would get tougher opposition, but in terms of popularity, he's no match with Boric.
@@santiago451 uhm, that speaks to YOUR circles actually. Boric around 60% approval in Jan-Feb this year, and he had won the presidency with 55%. He was popular indeed. So your friends were in the minority. Of course I was doing an hyperbole with "loooved", is not like everyone was head over heels with him, but most people liked him and had high hopes
@@interregionalapricot1312 I know, countries are not totally comparable. Lula is more like Ricardo Lagos had won here (which he would never do, lol). But still, the pattern repeats; high hopes, then rapid descend. This has happened in Chile, Perú, Argentina, Colombia, etc. There's a pattern for sure
TLDR: *holds a race to deliver the 10.000th order, show up at the destination cameras in hand* Random person who just wanted a pin of their country: 👁👄👁
His party is the only one that didn’t use this years election 5 billion reals (increased from 2 billion from the last by Lula’s party over Bolsonaro’s veto btw) of public money to run bloody ads and political campaigns while Lula’s “30 million starving Brazilians” could have gotten that money. Turns out principles don’t win you votes here.
The guy made a coalition with center right the first time he was elected, he is not much of a socialist. The political spectrum has moved so much to the right that social-democracy is assimilated to socialism. Same with Bernie Sanders. And using the term socialist to describe them contribute to the problem instead of fixing it, it normalize the far right and disqualify the left (often now called far-left).
☝️ This. The Overton window is so much to the right that someone who actually cares about people and working class and wants to return to Keynesian style economy, will be called a communist somehow. Typo: people and working class instead of government.
An average warmongering liberals in the states are called alt-right in Germany, and the average conservative christian-socialist in Germany are called communist in the states.
his first term was pretty liberal, but it’s up to debate how much of it was pragmatism. he’s not a socialist in practice but his party still has a pretty interventionist and nationalizing agenda which goes quite a bit beyond what europeans would call “social democracy”. we just don’t know to what degree the establishment and political allies will be able to dictate his policy choices - probably enough that Brazil doesn’t change a lot.
You know they can see how many orders they have had at any time. Nothing is stopping them from telling one of their grandmothers to put in ten orders at exactly the right time :). Not that I think they will actually do something like that.
"Hand deliver to anywhere in the world..." - careful with that, my lack of money is battling with the amusing idea of TLDR scrambling to personally deliver a pin-badge to me in Lusaka...
@@lucascarvalho7195 Exactly. It must be fun to pretend you're a leftist liberal after you've moved to a capitalist country looking for better opportunities. These hypocrites vote for Lula, thinking they're supporting the people's cause, then go vacation in New York or Paris.
@@wanderingthewastes6159 Exactly! The only reason he didn't stay in jail was because of the corruption and incompetence that led to those charges being overturned.
The context which Bolsonaro's "cannibalism" history came, was in a event that a young man died in a tribe they were visiting and in the tribe there was a rite to every tribesman to consume the young's man dead body and they were invited to participate. Bolsonaro said that if everyone in his retinue agreed, he would joins too. Nothing really happened, but i think it's a pretty terrifying story.
Esse ritual nem existe, os yonomami negaram, disseram que nem entre seus ancestrais existiu qualquer tipo de ritual antropofágico. Essa história não passa de mais uma mentira escabrosa do Bolsonaro pra pagar de corajoso
There are people saying its "out of context" but im surprised no one is talking about how the context makes it all worse since the interview was about sexual exploitation in haiti, and that haitian women offered themselves to him but he would never "eat" one because they are too dirty, and he bridged the conversation to literal cannibalism.
Thanks for this guys! Lots of scandals involving Bolsonaro, his family and supporters to come. It would be awesome if you could cover them as well. Let's wait for Lula to take office in January next year
This channel is one of the only world news channels I enjoy watching. I have a hard time paying attention to other channels. And you cover so much that it makes it easier to stay informed. For example I am American but thanks to you I have an ok understanding of everything the UK is facing in these recent months with Truss resigning and what have you.
@@altobonifacio8936 Quick search says 2/3 of their senate would need to vote for that (theres probably more to that), which is unlikely with the new 50/50 split, my guess is Joe would need to have a stroke or something on live camera for things to get moving, but even then its unlikely, demorats won't budge.
I think it's important to point out that Lula is not a socialist, he was quite hard-left during the 90s but as time went on he moved more and more towards the center, because (as he said it himself) he was tired of losing. Nowadays he's a center-leftist who has good relations with Cuba and Venezuela. Nothing really beyond that.
He was wearing a CPX hat and had a presentation in Morro do Alemão (Germans hill, it’s a place) which is controlled by a highly dangerous mafia, comando vermelho (the red command). When he won, videos of jail inmates started celebrating non-stop and videos of slum thugs shooting up the sky celebrating his victory. Pretty much shows what he is going to do: let them run free and do as they want. No justice, for they are just “victims of society”. Look up how Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina are like now. Hundreds of Venezuelan refugees are here escaping from dictator Maduro because they will be shot if they say a word against him, and guess who Maduro celebrated? Lula.
He was given a retrial over some technical flaws, and because of his advanced age some of the accusations expired due to time limits. This divided the country with tons of voters thinking he is still guilty and supporters that think he’s innocent.
It's not really, it might be unpopular, but jurists from accross the world agree with the supreme court (which didn't scraped his jugdings, but sent them to competent judges, who, mostly, anulled the sentence due to lack of evidence. He's been declared innocent not from the supreme court itself but from many judges from Brasilia, São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro as of today)
its a rabbit hole of weird stuff. Lula was prosecuted by an "anti-corruption" organization (Car wash) that after Lula's arrest was disbanded when they probed into Bolsonaro's family.
@@matheusd.rodrigues429 they don’t tho. International Transparency praises the Car Wash operation, but condemns the misconduct of Moro. It is a highly controversial case as Mani Pulite was in Italy (which had a similar outcome).
Im Chilean, and here a friend of mine said a quote that describes latin american politics right now: " i don't hate the left and i don't hate the right; i just hate whoever is in power currently." Both sides of the political spectrum have dissapointed us so much throughout the years that no matter who gets elected, they will get like, 70% disapproval ratings in their first year, end their term completely screwed, the people choose the exact opposite candidate, hate him too and start to miss the old one, and the cycle continues. We go from blue to red to blue to red to blue to red. People also here take identity politics to heart and create social divisions based on what party or which side are you on aswell. God i hate it here.
The fact that children aged 10 were talking about politics was disturbing enough to me to get nightmares, oh yeah and i was a political kid 6 years ago, i was so dumb back then
How about a criminal that a judge pardoned who may or may not still be a criminal. If I kill someone or steal a hundred million dollars and a judge declares me innocent that doesn't make me innocent, I'm still a criminal and the judge who said I was innocent was either stupid or on the take.
@@saimaberrii what are you on, Lula was horrendous with tons of scandals. Not to mention his approval rating tanked from beginning to end. Starting in the 80ish% to 8%. Why did it fall? Because he is a corrupt piece of shit which would do anything for money.
Bolsonaro was a fascist who tried to revive the military dictatorship, you all in the west hate lula because the usa is making up crap about him, hes great!😂 his laws literally helped my state so much.
@@courier6932 você é brasileiro? Qualquer das opções tem problemas e apresentam ameaça. Tomar um partido nessa disputa é ser um tanto fraco intelectualmente, digamos, para ser educado. Por isso fiz meu comentário. Então repito, é brasileiro? Votou no bolsomito pelo jeito.
@@realperson6713 Sim, sou brasileiro. Isso eu irei concordar, porém, acredito que há um lado onde os riscos e problemas são maiores que outro, por isso votei em determinado candidato, já que, em meu pensamento, não votar irá apenas deixar outra pessoa escolher ações futuras sobre mim. Mas isso eu discordo, não concordo que uma pessoa tomar algum lado nessa discussão o faz se “fraco, intelectualmente”, já que, como mencionei anteriormente, a terceira opção seria não votar, e deixar outra pessoa escolher ações futuras que irão me afetar. Além do mais, desculpe-me se me enganei, mas o seu comentário parecia que você tomou um lado nessa discussão, dizendo que seria “triste” ter o cérebro de alguém que considera a situação presidencial atual “triste”. Novamente, sim, sou brasileiro. E não, eu não votei no “Bolsomito”, mas sim no Bolsonaro.
@@MrShadowThief it means there was a clear and proven plot to get him out of the 2018 elections in a illegal trial, which makes him innocent by default, our law works with the accusers being responsible for giving the proof, if it doesn’t hold up for any reason then he’s innocent
I am honestly happy that both bolsonaro and lula took no side on this war. and its not because of "who is good or bad here", but because (1)as a mostly commodity base country, (2)with a gdp of a single country of the EU, (3)whom doesn't dependend on gas neither for our energy or for our heat/baths, (4)that is on the other side of the planet, (5)doesn't have nukes, (6)has historically being a purelly defensive nation and (7)has good relation with about everyone; this war GENUINELLY isn't our problem.
Estes fdps só olham para o próprio umbigo. "Estudam" a situação do Brasil, fazem seu vídeo para ganhar dinheiro, mas o que lhes interessa afinal é se haverá mais uma voz contra o Putin. As consequências disso para nós, terceiro mundistas brasileiros miseráveis? Não interessa.
They won't kill Bolsonaro only his supporters. The rest will just starve to death in a few years when his party runs the country into the ground. I wish there were a put option for Brazil because that sucker is going down!
The federal pact here in Brazil is a joke, most of the states don't have a relevant autonomy to do their things, now 50% of the population will have to endure this person in the presidence, if atleast our states haved the autonomy like in the US maybe the situation in our country would be better
tbh I don't think the clean slate law was ever applied, Lula was kept from running because they asked the supreme court if someone who was at the time in jail could run and they said no
the american south has closed over a 1200 polling places. an action significantly more indicative of voting fraud than ambigious rumors of mail-in-ballots. And thats without mentioning constant re-districting. fuck electoral college.
cult of personality fucking sucks in politics, and we who just want to get things done and be pragmatical have to deal with this and with ideologies :(
as braziian that never stand foot on brazil and understand nothing about its politics this is the only thing that i understand. i hate this cultish politics
That's what I say for people, just looking in this comment section filled with a bunch of foreigners that don't have a clue of what is happening here in Brazil makes me cringe a little bit
It's shocking how close Bolsonaro came to winning. This is a terrifying playbook from the Bolsonaro/Trump school, though: If they win, it's fair, if they lose, it's cheating. It's a fascinating divide as well, in the US and UK, wealthier and urban areas tend to vote for Dems/Labour, while poorer/rural areas go for the more conservative candidate, but in Brazil it was the opposite. Would love to know more about the dynamics here.
It's really not that shocking. Lula has made actively pro-Putin and anti-NATO statements, plus he has a good amount of scandals for corruption behind his back already. I mean, his prior issues are precisely the reason why Bolsonaro rose to power. Don't get me wrong, Bolsonaro is a corrupt, machiavelian person, certainly not someone I'd vote. But point is, Brazil was put into a loose loose situation the second these 2 were the only options. So it's not really that surprising they had issues picking what brand of poison they wanted to swallow. If I had lived there and saw this election coming, my vote would be with my feet, by which I mean doing whatever is in my power to emigrate somewhere with a less terrible political landscape. As for the left/right issue, it's actually very simple to explain. Just follow the money. In US/UK You have a right wing that pushes towards low density regulations and against help for urban poor, and a left wing that pushes for aid towards the urban poor, and against low density regulations that help the rural poor. Meanwhile in other areas you have left wings that push for aid to the farmers which help the rural poor and against aid towards small businesses which help the urban poor, and a right wing that pushes against "protectionist measures" designed to help the rural poor and in favor of lowering trade controls which helps the urban poor. At the end of the day, 90% of the time people don't actually vote for ideological reasons, they vote for who helps them the most. It really is that simple, look for the money flows, governments that enrich certain areas are likely to get their vote, governments that impoverish them will very rarely come to power. Look for example at UK. The "red wall" turned blue when Bojo promised them measures that would enrich them. And now everyone is quickly turning red or at least yellow since Brexit has heavily harmed the economy. It was never about ideology. All that sovereign speak crap was just an excuse. They voted for what they thought was best for them. They were simply wrong. This is indeed best seen on heavily stratified/federalized/decentralized systems, like for example Spain. As in those you can see how regionalist parties supposedly of the same "political side" push for completely different measures and ally with the "political enemy" precisely because of this. And certain regions just vote for completely different sides of the spectrum at each level. For example, during the latest elections Cadiz Capital voted for Kichi (Far Left) at the municipal level, PP (moderate right) at the autonomic level and PSOE (moderate left) at the national level. Why? Well, simple. National PSOE is federalist, so it gives more power to the autonomies, while PP is unitarian (they want more power to the central gov/madrid). But Andalusian PSOE is autonomic centralist (they want to focus the money on the autonomic capital, Seville) while PP is cantonalist (they would rather decentralize), as for Kichi, he first came to power as a joke/protest vote and yet he managed to drastically reduce our debt, so he earned the moderate vote. It's that simple!
@@pierre-charlesleonhart8357 well that's how socialism works in reality. Politicians stealing your stuff and then claim that they will use it for common good, when it actually ends up in their own pockets.
Just one minor addendum: The biggest commodity boom in the last 100 years or so is happening right now. Prices for oil, ores and lumber have skyrocketed since 2020.
@@Salarat but for how long was the spike? what matters is the trade volume over a longer period, i'd rather earn 50 dollars for 30 days than 500 dollars in 1 day for the price to crash thereafter...
The price of oil doesn't benefit Brazil, by the contrary, we still need to import it (especially since bolsonaro sold our refineries). It's agricultural and mineral goods that make the bulk of Brazilian exports.
The fact that your assessment of this situation is so skewed and ignorant of the facts makes me re-evaluate what else you may be misinformed or ignorant about. I appreciated TLDR as a news source because I found it concise and seemingly accurate in its coverage. But if you can cover this story without talking about the excesses of the Brazilian Supreme Court and its justices (particularly Alexandre de Moraes) and how they manipulated Brazil's justice system to overturn Lula's convictions on a technicality, to intimidate, coerce and often arrest conservative media figures, to censor speech which offended Lula (while letting the media and Lula's campaign call Bolsonaro everything from racist to genocidal to pedophile), and to overlook inequalities in the way campaign spots we played on the radio (supposedly guaranteed equal time by electoral laws), you're missing the forest for the trees. The truth is the most powerful man in Brazil is not Bolsonaro or Lula: it is Alexandre de Moraes. And the truth is the Worker's Party's previous terms in power corrupted every single part of the state of Brazil, every ministry, every branch of government. EVERYTHING worked on the basis of bribes and extortion. It took courage and hard work to remove this octopus (literally and figuratively) from our government before, and now it's back, like a thief returning to the crime scene. It's a sad day for Brazil and for the future of our children.
I never loved Lula or anything, but I was glad to vote for him after 4 years of madness under Bolsonaro. It’s a pity that people became fanatics, there are many asking for a coup right now 😢
It's called Socialism. You use money to buy votes and political support and pocket the rest and eventually the country runs out of money, the currency becomes worthless and the economy dies followed by the people who depend on it. Venezuela did that and it led to thousands starving to death or getting shot by gangs. I guess Brazil is next.
@@shadowreaver1851 i just want you to know that what happened in Venezuela is much more simple to understand than economic corruption. >Nationalized oil industry >Used money from oil industry to fund large social programs and subsidized other sectors of the economy >Price of oil went down >Nation went bankrupt And of course you have the dictator and corruption problem but the more practical moral to learn is "don't hedge your entire economy on one export product". A lesson that Russia is currently learning.
@@tazzioboca my sweet inocent child.... Dont fool yourself. The money will come (if he follows trough) from debt and inflation. Keep believing socialist propaganda...
@@theunchosenone4610 lula lifted millions out of poverty, but eventually the party he was representing started to do things wrong, he has publicly recognized their mistake, the more people are pulled outside of poverty the better in my opinion.
@@theunchosenone4610 Corruption or not, Lula's last presidency seems to have greatly benefited Brazil and the Brazilian people. Not saying it excuses anything, but compared to Bolsanoro's disastrous presidency, I don't think the choice should have been hard to make. Interestingly enough, we've had a similar case in France. Some mayor and his family went to trial for corruption. Despite the accusations being proven true, their policies were so popular that they gained a lot of support from their community. Don't remember how the trial ended though.
@@theunchosenone4610 From what I've read, wasn't the judge who sentenced Lula to prison time, later on a part of Bolsonaro's cabinet while he was in office? I don't think there's any way to say for sure without a 3d party investigation by someone truly unaffiliated with either side.
Yeah, just like Venezuela. People really respect a failed socialist state where the citizens eat their pets because they ran out of food because they printed too much money because they overspent because they voted for a socialist who said I will give you everything and it will cost you nothing and you were too stupid to question it! Congregations, Klaus Swab and the World Economic Forum respect you now. Now you have their permission to die so they can build back better. When your economy fails and your society fragments, the IMF will come in and offer to bail you out after you privatize all your industries and let foreign companies come in and loot and rape what's left of your desiccated courpse. R.I.P. Brazil.
The video is full of incomplete information, which lead to erroneous conclusions about what happens in Brazil and brings some dubious veracity information. The most important fact is that Lula was accused and convicted of several crimes, such as receiving bribes and concealing assets. The first scandal, still in the first Lula Government, was the "Mensalão", where Lula's party - the Workers' Party(PT) - passed money on to congressmen to approve their agendas and nominations to the other powers. Several party members, ministers of state and his political allies were arrested, but Lula was not accused of anything at the time. In Lula's second term, Brazil benefited from a boom of commodities and, due to the credit storm to contain the subprime crisis, he greatly increased credit for all, but most of it was banks and rich people, their current political allies and greater enthusiasts. Despite having had 80% popularity, and made his successor, Dilma, in few years the country went into economic and moral crisis when corruption, mismanagement of public companies and unfinished works reached its peak. The popular housing program, which generated a bubble on houses market, became constructions of stadiums for FIFA World Cup and Olympics, some of these projects were either abandoned, or had no use after the Games. "Mensalão" became "Petrolão", and the largest Public Oil Company had almost US$ 200 billion in losses. Only one of the company's chief operating officer returned about $20 million to the public coffers. Some of that money financed pharaonic projects for foreign warlords. Brazil's GDP, with Lula's successor, fell half a trillion dollars in a year, while the planet grew in 2014. We get record unemployment, debt and bankruptcies. The president was impeached for budgetary irregularities, but a nominee by Lula in the supreme court decided to keep her political rights, in a reinterpretation of the Impeachment Law. After the departure of his successor, who was protecting Lula from investigations, he was charged and tried in three instances, but those appointed to the Supreme Court by Lula began to act. First, they made it illegal for a person to be arrested without trial in a Supreme Court (in Brazil there would be 4 trials), when the court itself, a few years earlier, had already decided that arrests after 2 trails were legal. Then, five years after the operation that arrested Lula, another minister appointed to the Supreme Court by Lula's group, and who had campaigned for his party, said that Lula had been judged in the wrong place, in the first trail, and ordered to judge again all the cases he had suffered. However, as in Brazil, for people over 70 years of age, the processes have a shorter prescription period, many of the most advanced cases have automatically prescribed. Thus, Lula was once again eligible, as pure as a baby.
I wish there was space for a reject vote on ballots where there is an option to reject all of the candidates on the ballot and if the rejections win (majority), a new election would be held where the rejected candidates were no longer on a ballot for the new election. This would help reduce the candidate tendencies to run negative campaigns by negotiating with the competition to avoid a general rejection.
I believe what you are refering to is a blank vote, which does exist in some countries voting procedures. But in this case it was a runoff, a 2nd round between the most voted candidates from the 1st round. It would have no effect other than chaos to do that on the 2nd round, because you can always use the difference of the 1st round of voting in case of tie or the bank votes winning.
in brazil, we have something called the blank vote. you can vote blank whenever you want. But it doesn't mean the election will be canceled if people reject every single candidate
Lula isn't a socialist by any account - so the title is not only clickbait-y, but false information. It also makes TL;DR News look very biased, which I know you guys aren't. So the title should be changed.
So wierd that people are excited about this guy getting back into office.. He ruled for 7 years and the country clearly stagnated despite these grand claims of "immense success"
@@juanranger4214 let's not get carried away here.. The best candidate was clearly elected as his opponent was either an idiot or intentionally malicious. My point is that the bar is extremely low if we pic leaders just because they are not Trump like. We can't afford to have more of the same.. We need better than career politicians.
We say here in Brazil that love is like gasoline, it's expensive, it's short-lived, and you can replace it with alcohol. Now that the truckers are gone, get ready for fuel stations to run out of gas, etanol and diesel soon, prices will skyrocket like the last time truckers gone on strike. 4 years of Bolsonaro making diesel prices more and more expensive, and truckers never went on strike like they done before.
NO he was a criminal before that. I'm sure that makes a difference. The World Economic Forum doesn't seem to care they just want him there to wreak the country so it can be pillaged and raped by the west after it collapses as a result of socialist policies.
It would have been useful if you could have included Bolsanaro's proposed manifesto, and also speak about Brasil's Supreme Court authoritarian senior judge Moraes who seems to wield more power than the president, acting as a unilateral accuser, judge, jury and sentencer of journalists.
Lula is the furthest thing from a socialist. Oh, he identifies as a leftist for politics but his actual policies are anything but socialist. DUring his previous presidency, he liberalized the Brazilian economy, cut taxes for businesses and banks, made several trade deals that made Brazilian exports cheap and very lucrative, and he attracted foreign investment to Brazil. Lula is not stupid like most South American politicians. He may identify as a leftist to sway the largely political and culturally left-leaning Brazilian urban populous, but he is not willing to destroy his country's economy with *actual socialist policies.*
He is as left as Joe Biden is left in a sense that everybody that is not a fascist is left. Lula was a leftist in the 90s but then he leaned to a center-left to be elected. Still when compared to Bolsonaro, Elon Musk is a leftist.
@@soundscape26 Exactly. Socialist in name only and thank God for that! Last thing any South American country needs is another Peron to destroy their economy and society.
Yeh he's not a socialist, just socialist-lite. He's just a criminal parasite that will suck Brazil dry so the Western Elite can come in and loot the place. Your standard of living is going to plummet, mark my words! you will soon see the error of your ways when he says your country out and sucks you dry!
Not exactly anulated. The supreme court just ruled that his trial happend in the wrong place and so it should start all over again but them his convction expired. The analogus would be if I killed someone in Rio moved to São Paulo was tried in Rio but them the supreme court ruled I should have been tried in São Paulo but the crim happened 30 years ago so now I cant be convicted by it.
Epstein was never convicted either. Neither was Stalin or Fidel Castro or Kim Jung Il or Mao. Communists and Socialists rarely ever get convicted but they often convict a lot of people they don't like so I'll be keeping my eye out for how many Bolsonaro supporters get disappeared or lose their bank accounts because that's democracy!
The thing people don’t talk about Lula enough is how unpredictable his governments are. When he was first elected Lula was the leader of the left, of the social liberal agenda but had a lot of right leaning economic policies, continuing the monetary policy from FHC government, increasing even higher the interest rate and reducing drastically the public debt. He started his 3rd government in a huge war against the president of Brazil’s Central Bank accusing him of keeping the interest rate way above the necessary and Lula gave lots of interviews saying that his not prioritizing policies to control the public debt because the government needs to pay for all the current policies plus policies with the purpose of fighting poverty and starvation, which I think is REALLY FAIR even though there are ways of doing it without disrespecting Brazil’s debt control policies. On the other hand, Lula appointed Fernando Haddad as the Minister of Economy, and Haddad is consider by Brazilian media as “the most toucan of the worker’s party” (making reference to PT traditional opponent in the pools PSDB a center right party) due to Haddad’s efforts to reduce the public debt, having a good relationship with Roberto Campos Neto (Central Bank president), his good relationship with moderate right wingers and his recent support from Faria Lima (Brazil equivalent of Wall Street). I hate Bolsonaro with my whole heart and would never give him my vote by I always tend to look carefully at Lula because I really don’t know what to expect from him.
It's like those who claim women who get raped are to blame because they dressed a certain way. Russia is just an incel that didn't get it's way because their attitude drives people away from them. Rather than change themselves they'd rather try to force others.
It's how he stays neutral with people that are hardliners for BRICS, eventually he will force Russia & China out as they are intent on erasing Brazil's tourism & plundering their resources.
@@AmirSatt There is no blame for an invaded country when the only reason the invading country comes is to annex regions. There is a reason why people say "partially" but never reference any reason for that. Because there isn't.
Just FYI, Lula's conviction being annuled doesn't mean he was found not guilty, his criminal record was still an impediment for him running for office. There was a vote to reinstate his political rights and, thanks to Bolsonaro's purposeful inaction, Lula was allowed to run. Bolsonaro was counting on anti-Lula sentiment for an easy win.
A few mistakes: during the 1960s and 70s Brasil used to grow 10% a year, with 1971 growing 15%. So the economy didn’t grow at the fastest rate under Lula
I think he meant 21st century by modern history (Brazil's democracy didn't start under fhc). Besides, the economic growth under Medici/Geisel is heavily misleading because inflation was much higher at the time. That is why, despite growing so much, the minimum wage (which was frozen during the whole period) lost much of its purchasing power under the economic 'miracle'.
Lula is not even close to be a communist politician. He is a center to center-left politician, in his government the banks had a rise of 700% in their profits. There were three real communists running for president (Sofia Manzano, Léo Péricles e Vera Lucia), but they didn't get even 0,2% of the votes combined.
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In the 1990s, there was a referendum here in Brazil where it was asked if it would be better to return to Monarchy, to go to a Parliamentary Republic or to a Presidential Republic. The Presidential Republic won with over 70% of the votes, and now this discussion practically don't exist anymore
@@ninnes_3881 ouch! but presidential systems are almost always full of corruption, wannabe dictators, dictators that seize power and of really inefficient government.
In Brazil there is a Law that people convicted twice (first by a 1st degree judge then by a collegiate of 3 judges in the 2nd degree) cannot run. Lula appealed and lost unanimous in all 3 degrees of the Brazilian justice. A Supreme Court Justice appointed by his Party and who campaigned for his Party in previous elections cancelled all Lulas convictions claiming some files were submitted to the wrong court
@@diegovivo You forgot to mention that the judge that condemned Lula became a politician, supported Bolsonaro and leaked messages showed he was collaborating with the prosecution during the trial.
5:25 Bolsonaro actually improved the ''Bolsa Família'' and created the ''Auxílio Brasil'' which is superior in both value and acessibility. He also supported the creation of PIx which allows fast and tax less transactions improving the People's economic situation.
Quando o pix foi criado pelo banco central Bolsonaro nem era presidente, e com o auxílio Brasil (que ele nem queria pagar pra começo de conversa, só implementou porque o congresso obrigou) ele basicamente pegou o bolsa família e mudou de nome como ele fez com o "minha casa, minha vida" que mudou o nome pra "casa verde amarela", Bolsonaro não fez praticamente nada em quatro anos. E quanto a melhorar a situação econômica do povo, conta outra, o salário mínimo ficou esses quatros anos sem aumento real, o brasileiro perdeu poder de compra, onde que isso é melhorar a situação econômica do povo? O pessoal comprando pele de frango e na fila do osso por causa da alta dos alimentos e a situação econômica tava boa? Kkkkkk
People voted on this election by choosing the side that they hated the least, because at the end of the day both Bolsonaro and Lula have a negative track record with governing Brazil
@DoubtingThomas I agree with some of the points you made but we need to take into consideration that Operation Car Wash forever tainted Lula's career, and exposed to the whole world to see how corrupt and rotten Brazil's government really was.
@@tauceti8060 Yeah, but people knew that if they voted for any of these other candidates they would be throwing away their vote, the same way that people here in the US vote either democrat or republican because they know if they vote independent they will be wasting their vote
@@tauceti8060 And yet these candidates barely got any track in the polls. All the other candidates combined represented a meager 8% of valid votes in the first round, which shows you how polarized the political landscape of our country is currently. I am absolutely sure a lot of those votes were more compelled by rejection of the main candidates rather than actually believing they might be the best leader for the nation.
Bolsonaro used the state apparatus to basically buy the vote. Massive money handouts, artificial price cuts on fuel, subsidies to truckers, 33% increase in teacher's pay (without considering if the states can pay this increase), and a massive increase in propaganda spending (while, ironically, saying he ended the spending with propaganda)
There is a actual conspiracy theory that Bolsonaro throwed cards to make Lula be his competitor becase he was the only other person unpopular enought to make Bolsonaro have a shot.
I’m not a Brazilian so I can’t speak to what is good or bad for their country, but lula’s foreign policy seems to be pretty out of touch on the world stage. Especially in democratic countries.
I am, all I can say is that my family and other millions only got good life conditions because of his social politics that was about distributing money and chances to the poor people, and now we still live better because of him, besides Bolsonaro destroying our economy and exporting a lot of food to the exterior, at the same time our hungry has doubled the size the last 5 years. I just hope the world it's in our side now 😊
@@rafaellima5432 with Lula being pro China, pro Venezuela, pro Cuba, pro Russia (after Ukrainian invasion). We know what anti democracy and anti freedom policies to expect.
@@reggievonramstein lmao, Bolsonaro government is literally full of apology of dictatorships, including our dictatorship of 1964 that United States backed, as an former Minister of Culture of him spoke a speech that comes from Hitler in 2020. Lula is in favor of the people, it doesn't matter if it's Cuban people or Chinese people. Thats the point.
@@alvaroludolf idk bro he looks like josé Sócrates for me. So yea, you will see brazil go to a shit hole and probably be like Venezuela full of money laundering
@@sidious69 Money laundering is more of the business of one of the Bolsonaro's sons, the elder. The second sun is the homophobic gay, the third one is the fake news lunatic and the forth one is the ticktocker... so you see, in his family crime is very organised. Lula was president in 2002 and we are fine... it was actually Bolsonaro who said many praises to Hugo Chaves at that time.
In my humble opinion you should have much, but much more knowledge about brazilian culture, history and politics to comment this process. My only ask is for you to observe what’s going to happen to Brazil in the next new years during the administration of this person, who has already been president for two consecutive terms and was responsible for the biggest corruption scandal in the history of the mankind. Now this same criminal is back in power supposedly by popular vote. It’s a sad state of affairs and unfortunately, the only one losing will be the brazilian population. I hope I’m wrong. All the best
@@afgor1088 so, in your mind there were no crimes? How do you explain the money return by the ones involved to have their sentences reduced? Just wait and see what this thief os going to do. Wait and see.
And there’s another interesting miss conception by your part: he was sentenced by a judge, appealed and was sentenced by a college of judges, appealed to the Supreme Court and lost for the third time, so, he was not judged and sentenced by only one individual. More than 8000 pieces of evidence. Billionaire losses to Petrobras and other state owned companies, dozens sent to prison. Stop believing in narratives and stick to the facts!
As a brazilian I must say, I am deeply relieved that I won't have Bolsonazi as a president anymore. Last years have been embarassing for Brasil, hopefully things will change in the near future.
I'm indian. I feel like you guys going to experience much worse under second coming of this man than your previous guy. Usually my intuition regarding geopolitics not gonna wrong.
@@syhuhjk Lula wants censorship. Most of the judges of the Supreme Court were elected by his party (workers party) and are ALREADY CENSORING many right wing politicians and workers, already arrested people who spoke against their ways, congress and senate are completely silent and freedom of protest and speech is dead! How is a censorship department any better than Bolsonaro. Saying that we the right wing are fascists is a lie created by the left wing mainstream media! We didn’t arrest or silence anyone who spoke against us!
honestly, we don’t *need* him to concede to anything lol while he waited in silence like a child for nearly three days, the rest of government got on without him, preparing transition. he only said something because it was getting ridiculous
We are seeing the end of nationalism. Our world will now be run entirely by scumbags who work for the World Economic Forum and they will wreak our countries so they can be built back worse!
Yep, now is time to sell all stocks from brazil. Its about to be massive starvation and record level human rights violations. But remember... even this time it won't be "true socialism"
@@alvaroludolf Are you saying that right wing government increased wellfare spending and crippled the economy to the point that economy can't handle both of these extremes same time?
@@alvaroludolf between us two... only I'm the one acting like adult. You see adults focus on arguments instead of trying to insult and demean their opponents without providing any arguments to the table. You however... act like some 9-year old kid on playfield.
Brazilian top level politics:
"You are a Satanist!"
"No, you are a Cannibal!"
im sad to see there is no cthulhu worshipping candidate.
Actually Satanists and Cannibal were the same candidate. Jair Bolsonaro was caught on camera in a masonary house (which conservative brasilians deemed as satanists) and talking about eating an indegenous man (which is plain cannibalism), he also gave an interview saying that he felt a spark between him and a 13 years old colombian girl (which makes him a paedophile).
Any candidate got flak for participating in a jungle voodoo orgy with the cast of Deep Space Nine? (Dilbert reference)
I mean the guy did say he would be willing to eat people.
@@TheVoiceOfReason93 sadly, no, no one did 😭
I dream of the day when devil worshippers and cannibals can put aside their differences and focus on important issues like alien abduction and werewolves...
Yes, because if they don't... Vampires will win... again...
We had a former president (Temer) here in Brazil that we refer as Dracula
😂
That day arrived 40 years ago. In the US Congress.
And don't forget the 5G towers, they mean business!
You forgot to mention that Lula was convicted by a judge that months later would become Bolsonaro's minister of justice. The same judge was briefly running for president this year.
Exactly that was huge John Oliver covered that.
Exactly! I think the fact that it was overturned by the supreme court under a bolsonaro administration says it all
Supreme court isn’t friendly with Bolsonaro anyway
Sergio Moro (the judge) sentenced Lula in july 2017. Bolsonaro invited Moro to government after he won the election in oct 2018, mainly by popular aclamation because the then judge, as a Minister, could do more against corruption. This refutes that the judge had political intentions at the time of the trial.
@@KazimirQ7G Is "you scrach my back i scratch yours" unknown to you?
Why not sent one by next day international post and one hand delivered and see which one reaches first?
It could be an entire competition.
Reminds me of top gear
@@spritemon98 *guitar riff plays*
TONIGHT ON TOP GEAR
Clarkson sends out fan merch
Latin America is, as a whole, in a crazy pendulum politically. Every country seemingly hates its current government, then elects the opposition, and they hate them too. And Congresses almost everywhere have no mayority. It's depressing. Here in Chile people looooved Boric in his campaign and whilst he was preparing for the presidency, but now he's unpopular. I think things will go alike in Brazil with Lula. We're up to deadlock in every country (only Uruguay seems to be well) and that is terrifying for democracy
Quick question: What's your opinion on what happened in Chile 3 years ago with the constitution and all that? I always thought Chile was doing fine, but then that happened and now things seem to be going down hill. Is there some context I'm missing?
I think that says more about the circles you run in. Nobody I know in Chile liked, much less loved, Boric. They were all tearing their hair out when he won. Just like most of Brazil is tearing its hair out now.
Brazil is a different case altogether. Lula had been in power before and he was particularly popular then. Even when he was wrongfully jailed, the people still loved him. Sure, with the rise of the far-rightoid in Bolzie's regime, he would get tougher opposition, but in terms of popularity, he's no match with Boric.
@@santiago451 uhm, that speaks to YOUR circles actually. Boric around 60% approval in Jan-Feb this year, and he had won the presidency with 55%. He was popular indeed. So your friends were in the minority. Of course I was doing an hyperbole with "loooved", is not like everyone was head over heels with him, but most people liked him and had high hopes
@@interregionalapricot1312 I know, countries are not totally comparable. Lula is more like Ricardo Lagos had won here (which he would never do, lol). But still, the pattern repeats; high hopes, then rapid descend. This has happened in Chile, Perú, Argentina, Colombia, etc. There's a pattern for sure
A small correction: on 0:12 the date in the video is "Oct 20th", but the election runoff was actually on October 30th.
I was going to say the same thing
TLDR: *holds a race to deliver the 10.000th order, show up at the destination cameras in hand*
Random person who just wanted a pin of their country: 👁👄👁
1:49 When you are so unpopular candidate you don't deserve a precentage sign.
0.47 votes
His party is the only one that didn’t use this years election 5 billion reals (increased from 2 billion from the last by Lula’s party over Bolsonaro’s veto btw) of public money to run bloody ads and political campaigns while Lula’s “30 million starving Brazilians” could have gotten that money. Turns out principles don’t win you votes here.
not even half of a person lol
@@pizzahut2236 bruh...
Sorry it was my arm, I cut my arm and quickly went to vote for him
The guy made a coalition with center right the first time he was elected, he is not much of a socialist. The political spectrum has moved so much to the right that social-democracy is assimilated to socialism. Same with Bernie Sanders. And using the term socialist to describe them contribute to the problem instead of fixing it, it normalize the far right and disqualify the left (often now called far-left).
☝️ This. The Overton window is so much to the right that someone who actually cares about people and working class and wants to return to Keynesian style economy, will be called a communist somehow.
Typo: people and working class instead of government.
An average warmongering liberals in the states are called alt-right in Germany, and the average conservative christian-socialist in Germany are called communist in the states.
his first term was pretty liberal, but it’s up to debate how much of it was pragmatism. he’s not a socialist in practice but his party still has a pretty interventionist and nationalizing agenda which goes quite a bit beyond what europeans would call “social democracy”. we just don’t know to what degree the establishment and political allies will be able to dictate his policy choices - probably enough that Brazil doesn’t change a lot.
Lulu's support of Venezuela's Maduro shows approval of the country's socialist policies.
@@bachvandals3259 AfD are not liberals
Imagine the 10000th order just being some bloke in Brighton or something close like that
You know they can see how many orders they have had at any time. Nothing is stopping them from telling one of their grandmothers to put in ten orders at exactly the right time :). Not that I think they will actually do something like that.
@@postron5649 Tax write-off.. quality assurance.
Thomas Simons you won't get away with this!!!!!
Sir, I need to commend your Brazilian-Portuguese pronunciation. Kudos and obrigado.
Hope your English is up to par, it’s Facebook not FacebookEEE
@@dennisestradda9746 errou, é feicibuqui msm
Now if only the same can be done for Russian/Ukrainian words... Pronunciation of Kherson makes me faint everytime.
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 if only English people didn't ignore the h in Kherson... I'm guessing the K is there to represent a hard "h" sound (х).
"Hand deliver to anywhere in the world..." - careful with that, my lack of money is battling with the amusing idea of TLDR scrambling to personally deliver a pin-badge to me in Lusaka...
“Around the world in 80 days!”
I excitedly went and told my Brazilian friend... only to find out she was a Bolsanaro supporter
that was awkward
Two Brazilian Americans I know supported bolsonaro originally but now said they're glad he lost, he was bad for their country
I mean what can I say
_It was a 50/50 chance_
@Gabriel Henrique or to lose touch on whats really happening
@@lucascarvalho7195 Exactly. It must be fun to pretend you're a leftist liberal after you've moved to a capitalist country looking for better opportunities. These hypocrites vote for Lula, thinking they're supporting the people's cause, then go vacation in New York or Paris.
@Gabriel Henrique only not in Japan
Brazil:
I don’t like this corrupt politician. I know! I’m going to elect a different corrupt politician
Gotta pick the lesser of evils sadly
@M3X guilty on second and third instances by different judges. Please stop with this delusions that he is innocent.
The system is corrupt. It is childish to not understand this.
This is called "idolatry"
@@wanderingthewastes6159 Exactly! The only reason he didn't stay in jail was because of the corruption and incompetence that led to those charges being overturned.
Ever since the privately funded American coup of Haiti, I keep thinking that global politics is about to get really bad
As if it wasn't really bad already
The context which Bolsonaro's "cannibalism" history came, was in a event that a young man died in a tribe they were visiting and in the tribe there was a rite to every tribesman to consume the young's man dead body and they were invited to participate. Bolsonaro said that if everyone in his retinue agreed, he would joins too. Nothing really happened, but i think it's a pretty terrifying story.
Don't forget his motivation was "wanting to see a native getting baked".
Esse ritual nem existe, os yonomami negaram, disseram que nem entre seus ancestrais existiu qualquer tipo de ritual antropofágico. Essa história não passa de mais uma mentira escabrosa do Bolsonaro pra pagar de corajoso
There are people saying its "out of context" but im surprised no one is talking about how the context makes it all worse since the interview was about sexual exploitation in haiti, and that haitian women offered themselves to him but he would never "eat" one because they are too dirty, and he bridged the conversation to literal cannibalism.
Thanks for this guys! Lots of scandals involving Bolsonaro, his family and supporters to come. It would be awesome if you could cover them as well. Let's wait for Lula to take office in January next year
Likely yes... just you wait for Bolsonaro to lose his immunity.
That makes all the criminal corruption of LULu ok 🤣🇺🇸
@@tnickknight Who said that?
Awesome? So brazil will become another Venezuela
@@Tespri Just like last time he was president right? Because that went soooo horribly 🤣
And Brazil goes down the crappier once again.
Fora miliciano !!!
This channel is one of the only world news channels I enjoy watching. I have a hard time paying attention to other channels. And you cover so much that it makes it easier to stay informed. For example I am American but thanks to you I have an ok understanding of everything the UK is facing in these recent months with Truss resigning and what have you.
How is America's politics doing? I heard about Joe Biden's possible impeachment is that true?
@@altobonifacio8936 Quick search says 2/3 of their senate would need to vote for that (theres probably more to that), which is unlikely with the new 50/50 split, my guess is Joe would need to have a stroke or something on live camera for things to get moving, but even then its unlikely, demorats won't budge.
I think it's important to point out that Lula is not a socialist, he was quite hard-left during the 90s but as time went on he moved more and more towards the center, because (as he said it himself) he was tired of losing. Nowadays he's a center-leftist who has good relations with Cuba and Venezuela. Nothing really beyond that.
He was wearing a CPX hat and had a presentation in Morro do Alemão (Germans hill, it’s a place) which is controlled by a highly dangerous mafia, comando vermelho (the red command). When he won, videos of jail inmates started celebrating non-stop and videos of slum thugs shooting up the sky celebrating his victory. Pretty much shows what he is going to do: let them run free and do as they want. No justice, for they are just “victims of society”. Look up how Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina are like now. Hundreds of Venezuelan refugees are here escaping from dictator Maduro because they will be shot if they say a word against him, and guess who Maduro celebrated? Lula.
@@juanranger4214 XDDDD
Now days stay corrupt.
Not only is he a socialist, he also financed the dictatorship of Cuba and Venezuela.
@@juanranger4214 you got to be kidding me
TLDR guys all hoping someone in the Seychelles wins the competition!
Also please remind people that the reversal of Lula’s sentence is itself highly controversial too. That explains a ton of the divisiveness there.
He was given a retrial over some technical flaws, and because of his advanced age some of the accusations expired due to time limits. This divided the country with tons of voters thinking he is still guilty and supporters that think he’s innocent.
It's not really, it might be unpopular, but jurists from accross the world agree with the supreme court (which didn't scraped his jugdings, but sent them to competent judges, who, mostly, anulled the sentence due to lack of evidence. He's been declared innocent not from the supreme court itself but from many judges from Brasilia, São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro as of today)
its a rabbit hole of weird stuff.
Lula was prosecuted by an "anti-corruption" organization (Car wash) that after Lula's arrest was disbanded when they probed into Bolsonaro's family.
@@matheusd.rodrigues429 they don’t tho. International Transparency praises the Car Wash operation, but condemns the misconduct of Moro. It is a highly controversial case as Mani Pulite was in Italy (which had a similar outcome).
@@matheusd.rodrigues429 the sentence wasn’t put down on grounds of lack of evidence, but instead time limits. Please read the retrial.
As a Brazilian, thank you
Presidentialist politics are clearly entertainment.
No-one can say first
Third
@@neonpowar3766 good
@@Idk-ys7rt I am defeated
@@Idk-ys7rt no
@@Idk-ys7rt I'm just fucking with you brah, quote me if you want
Im Chilean, and here a friend of mine said a quote that describes latin american politics right now: " i don't hate the left and i don't hate the right; i just hate whoever is in power currently."
Both sides of the political spectrum have dissapointed us so much throughout the years that no matter who gets elected, they will get like, 70% disapproval ratings in their first year, end their term completely screwed, the people choose the exact opposite candidate, hate him too and start to miss the old one, and the cycle continues. We go from blue to red to blue to red to blue to red.
People also here take identity politics to heart and create social divisions based on what party or which side are you on aswell.
God i hate it here.
The fact that children aged 10 were talking about politics was disturbing enough to me to get nightmares, oh yeah and i was a political kid 6 years ago, i was so dumb back then
Good video. Howerver, as a Brazilian, I would not categorize Lula as a "socialist". He is more of a moderate left-wing politician nowadays.
How about a criminal that a judge pardoned who may or may not still be a criminal. If I kill someone or steal a hundred million dollars and a judge declares me innocent that doesn't make me innocent, I'm still a criminal and the judge who said I was innocent was either stupid or on the take.
I feel bad for Brazil 🇧🇷 future
Lula was a good president, high approval. Apparently bolsonaro was not
Dont waste your time, continue living your miserable life thinking that you're much better than the Brazilians. Spoiler: you're not.
@@saimaberrii what are you on, Lula was horrendous with tons of scandals. Not to mention his approval rating tanked from beginning to end. Starting in the 80ish% to 8%. Why did it fall? Because he is a corrupt piece of shit which would do anything for money.
@@orange6259 he's kind of vindicated by the judge convicting him of those scandals being a bolsominion
Bolsonaro was a fascist who tried to revive the military dictatorship, you all in the west hate lula because the usa is making up crap about him, hes great!😂 his laws literally helped my state so much.
A sad day in Brazil indeed
The real definition of "sad" is a life with your brain.
@@realperson6713 The real definition of “sad” would be a single day with your opinions.
@@courier6932 você é brasileiro? Qualquer das opções tem problemas e apresentam ameaça. Tomar um partido nessa disputa é ser um tanto fraco intelectualmente, digamos, para ser educado. Por isso fiz meu comentário. Então repito, é brasileiro? Votou no bolsomito pelo jeito.
@@realperson6713 Sim, sou brasileiro.
Isso eu irei concordar, porém, acredito que há um lado onde os riscos e problemas são maiores que outro, por isso votei em determinado candidato, já que, em meu pensamento, não votar irá apenas deixar outra pessoa escolher ações futuras sobre mim.
Mas isso eu discordo, não concordo que uma pessoa tomar algum lado nessa discussão o faz se “fraco, intelectualmente”, já que, como mencionei anteriormente, a terceira opção seria não votar, e deixar outra pessoa escolher ações futuras que irão me afetar.
Além do mais, desculpe-me se me enganei, mas o seu comentário parecia que você tomou um lado nessa discussão, dizendo que seria “triste” ter o cérebro de alguém que considera a situação presidencial atual “triste”.
Novamente, sim, sou brasileiro. E não, eu não votei no “Bolsomito”, mas sim no Bolsonaro.
@@courier6932 quis dizer que triste é viver com a mentalidade de um idólatra. Pelos mesmos motivos que você eu votei no Lula.
0:50 controversial trial: judged in the "wrong" tribunal, but not proved innocent...
Had his process nulled because of clear juridical bias, proved by audio recordings, this tribunal wanted to condemn him regardless
@@DonLM98 That doesn't mean he was "proven" innocent. Just that his condemnation was upheld.
@@MrShadowThief it means there was a clear and proven plot to get him out of the 2018 elections in a illegal trial, which makes him innocent by default, our law works with the accusers being responsible for giving the proof, if it doesn’t hold up for any reason then he’s innocent
I am honestly happy that both bolsonaro and lula took no side on this war. and its not because of "who is good or bad here", but because (1)as a mostly commodity base country, (2)with a gdp of a single country of the EU, (3)whom doesn't dependend on gas neither for our energy or for our heat/baths, (4)that is on the other side of the planet, (5)doesn't have nukes, (6)has historically being a purelly defensive nation and (7)has good relation with about everyone; this war GENUINELLY isn't our problem.
Estes fdps só olham para o próprio umbigo. "Estudam" a situação do Brasil, fazem seu vídeo para ganhar dinheiro, mas o que lhes interessa afinal é se haverá mais uma voz contra o Putin. As consequências disso para nós, terceiro mundistas brasileiros miseráveis? Não interessa.
4:40 "At time of writing Bolsonaro is still alive..."
[This just in -- Bolsonaro *still* alive!]
They won't kill Bolsonaro only his supporters. The rest will just starve to death in a few years when his party runs the country into the ground. I wish there were a put option for Brazil because that sucker is going down!
As a Brazilian, old boss sucked, new boss sucks, we are fucked.
The federal pact here in Brazil is a joke, most of the states don't have a relevant autonomy to do their things, now 50% of the population will have to endure this person in the presidence, if atleast our states haved the autonomy like in the US maybe the situation in our country would be better
Choro impresso
@@joaomarcoscardosodasilva2877 os estados possuem liberdade de terem maior autonomia. Sempre terá regiões mais conservadoras e outras não.
Chora mais, vai com teu presidente generalissimo franco e bolsonaro pra miami
Lula's policies were not succesful, the economy grew because of the commodities boom, in fact it led to the crysis faced in Dilma's government.
tbh I don't think the clean slate law was ever applied, Lula was kept from running because they asked the supreme court if someone who was at the time in jail could run and they said no
I am always aghast at how the right always try to find ways to delay and trick the left from voting.
I find it other way around. But you do you.
In my country it's the left, the former Communists who are doing that.
It's not about left or right, it's about who the most corrupt party is.
So Nicaragua, Venezuela are from the right now??? lol
In India its always the liberal party saying this.
the american south has closed over a 1200 polling places. an action significantly more indicative of voting fraud than ambigious rumors of mail-in-ballots.
And thats without mentioning constant re-districting. fuck electoral college.
Elections were on Sunday 30th October
*Brazilian politics survival guide:*
Never trust a word said by Lula or Bolsonaro supporters
THIS .
cult of personality fucking sucks in politics, and we who just want to get things done and be pragmatical have to deal with this and with ideologies :(
as braziian that never stand foot on brazil and understand nothing about its politics this is the only thing that i understand.
i hate this cultish politics
That's what I say for people, just looking in this comment section filled with a bunch of foreigners that don't have a clue of what is happening here in Brazil makes me cringe a little bit
This
The choice was between an admirer of military dictatorship and a supporter of Venezuelan and Cuban dictatorships
It's shocking how close Bolsonaro came to winning. This is a terrifying playbook from the Bolsonaro/Trump school, though: If they win, it's fair, if they lose, it's cheating.
It's a fascinating divide as well, in the US and UK, wealthier and urban areas tend to vote for Dems/Labour, while poorer/rural areas go for the more conservative candidate, but in Brazil it was the opposite. Would love to know more about the dynamics here.
The dynamics are, people with money wanna hold onto it. Socialism in Latin America is associated with having the government take your shit.
@@pierre-charlesleonhart8357 Like in Venezuela
It's really not that shocking. Lula has made actively pro-Putin and anti-NATO statements, plus he has a good amount of scandals for corruption behind his back already. I mean, his prior issues are precisely the reason why Bolsonaro rose to power.
Don't get me wrong, Bolsonaro is a corrupt, machiavelian person, certainly not someone I'd vote. But point is, Brazil was put into a loose loose situation the second these 2 were the only options. So it's not really that surprising they had issues picking what brand of poison they wanted to swallow. If I had lived there and saw this election coming, my vote would be with my feet, by which I mean doing whatever is in my power to emigrate somewhere with a less terrible political landscape.
As for the left/right issue, it's actually very simple to explain. Just follow the money. In US/UK You have a right wing that pushes towards low density regulations and against help for urban poor, and a left wing that pushes for aid towards the urban poor, and against low density regulations that help the rural poor. Meanwhile in other areas you have left wings that push for aid to the farmers which help the rural poor and against aid towards small businesses which help the urban poor, and a right wing that pushes against "protectionist measures" designed to help the rural poor and in favor of lowering trade controls which helps the urban poor.
At the end of the day, 90% of the time people don't actually vote for ideological reasons, they vote for who helps them the most. It really is that simple, look for the money flows, governments that enrich certain areas are likely to get their vote, governments that impoverish them will very rarely come to power. Look for example at UK. The "red wall" turned blue when Bojo promised them measures that would enrich them. And now everyone is quickly turning red or at least yellow since Brexit has heavily harmed the economy. It was never about ideology. All that sovereign speak crap was just an excuse. They voted for what they thought was best for them. They were simply wrong.
This is indeed best seen on heavily stratified/federalized/decentralized systems, like for example Spain. As in those you can see how regionalist parties supposedly of the same "political side" push for completely different measures and ally with the "political enemy" precisely because of this. And certain regions just vote for completely different sides of the spectrum at each level. For example, during the latest elections Cadiz Capital voted for Kichi (Far Left) at the municipal level, PP (moderate right) at the autonomic level and PSOE (moderate left) at the national level. Why? Well, simple. National PSOE is federalist, so it gives more power to the autonomies, while PP is unitarian (they want more power to the central gov/madrid). But Andalusian PSOE is autonomic centralist (they want to focus the money on the autonomic capital, Seville) while PP is cantonalist (they would rather decentralize), as for Kichi, he first came to power as a joke/protest vote and yet he managed to drastically reduce our debt, so he earned the moderate vote. It's that simple!
@@pierre-charlesleonhart8357 well that's how socialism works in reality. Politicians stealing your stuff and then claim that they will use it for common good, when it actually ends up in their own pockets.
@@Jay_in_Japan Yes.
Lula looks so much like the motorbike instructor I just had lol
was he chill as well?
@@piedrablanca1942 was proper chill, took me for a tour round a part of my town that I haven't seen
XD
Just one minor addendum: The biggest commodity boom in the last 100 years or so is happening right now. Prices for oil, ores and lumber have skyrocketed since 2020.
@@Salarat but for how long was the spike? what matters is the trade volume over a longer period, i'd rather earn 50 dollars for 30 days than 500 dollars in 1 day for the price to crash thereafter...
The price of oil doesn't benefit Brazil, by the contrary, we still need to import it (especially since bolsonaro sold our refineries). It's agricultural and mineral goods that make the bulk of Brazilian exports.
@@hoppingrabbit9849 So so true that's just common sense wich a lot of people in this world to day lack verry much!!
@@AmmonRRa We import gasoline but export oil.
The fact that your assessment of this situation is so skewed and ignorant of the facts makes me re-evaluate what else you may be misinformed or ignorant about. I appreciated TLDR as a news source because I found it concise and seemingly accurate in its coverage. But if you can cover this story without talking about the excesses of the Brazilian Supreme Court and its justices (particularly Alexandre de Moraes) and how they manipulated Brazil's justice system to overturn Lula's convictions on a technicality, to intimidate, coerce and often arrest conservative media figures, to censor speech which offended Lula (while letting the media and Lula's campaign call Bolsonaro everything from racist to genocidal to pedophile), and to overlook inequalities in the way campaign spots we played on the radio (supposedly guaranteed equal time by electoral laws), you're missing the forest for the trees.
The truth is the most powerful man in Brazil is not Bolsonaro or Lula: it is Alexandre de Moraes. And the truth is the Worker's Party's previous terms in power corrupted every single part of the state of Brazil, every ministry, every branch of government. EVERYTHING worked on the basis of bribes and extortion. It took courage and hard work to remove this octopus (literally and figuratively) from our government before, and now it's back, like a thief returning to the crime scene. It's a sad day for Brazil and for the future of our children.
I never loved Lula or anything, but I was glad to vote for him after 4 years of madness under Bolsonaro. It’s a pity that people became fanatics, there are many asking for a coup right now 😢
Lula e pior
sleaze in jail? they should roll that out in more [all] countries.
I'm hearing a lot of public spending proposals but no way to fund that spending. I can understand why some would feel sceptical.
He plans to raise income tax for the rich and tax financial profits.
It's called Socialism. You use money to buy votes and political support and pocket the rest and eventually the country runs out of money, the currency becomes worthless and the economy dies followed by the people who depend on it. Venezuela did that and it led to thousands starving to death or getting shot by gangs. I guess Brazil is next.
@@shadowreaver1851 i just want you to know that what happened in Venezuela is much more simple to understand than economic corruption.
>Nationalized oil industry
>Used money from oil industry to fund large social programs and subsidized other sectors of the economy
>Price of oil went down
>Nation went bankrupt
And of course you have the dictator and corruption problem but the more practical moral to learn is "don't hedge your entire economy on one export product". A lesson that Russia is currently learning.
@@him_That_is_me Good point. Thanks.
@@tazzioboca my sweet inocent child.... Dont fool yourself. The money will come (if he follows trough) from debt and inflation. Keep believing socialist propaganda...
Hopefully TLDR won’t appear at your door like James Corden in a rat suit on a crosswalk.
How this was so close is mind-boggling to me...but anyway, congrats Lula!
Most of the people on the crazy train, boarded at "misinformation station" ...
Isn't he and his party like super corrupt, not saying bolsanoro is better but this outcome seems not really worth celebrating.
@@theunchosenone4610 lula lifted millions out of poverty, but eventually the party he was representing started to do things wrong, he has publicly recognized their mistake, the more people are pulled outside of poverty the better in my opinion.
@@theunchosenone4610 Corruption or not, Lula's last presidency seems to have greatly benefited Brazil and the Brazilian people. Not saying it excuses anything, but compared to Bolsanoro's disastrous presidency, I don't think the choice should have been hard to make.
Interestingly enough, we've had a similar case in France. Some mayor and his family went to trial for corruption. Despite the accusations being proven true, their policies were so popular that they gained a lot of support from their community. Don't remember how the trial ended though.
@@theunchosenone4610 From what I've read, wasn't the judge who sentenced Lula to prison time, later on a part of Bolsonaro's cabinet while he was in office? I don't think there's any way to say for sure without a 3d party investigation by someone truly unaffiliated with either side.
This will need a complete revisit soon considering how things have turned out.
This was so hard and took so long... But we won! 🇧🇷🌟 The government will change and we will be respected again.
They will laugh at us internationally and unfortunately I would have to agree with them.
@@nomenomeha30anosatras33 Nobody cares about your idiotic politics.
Yeah, just like Venezuela. People really respect a failed socialist state where the citizens eat their pets because they ran out of food because they printed too much money because they overspent because they voted for a socialist who said I will give you everything and it will cost you nothing and you were too stupid to question it! Congregations, Klaus Swab and the World Economic Forum respect you now. Now you have their permission to die so they can build back better. When your economy fails and your society fragments, the IMF will come in and offer to bail you out after you privatize all your industries and let foreign companies come in and loot and rape what's left of your desiccated courpse. R.I.P. Brazil.
Comments that aged like milk.
@@MrShadowThief it is happening, honey
Interesting that you’ve raised the price in the sale, happy I ordered mine when I did. 20 random pins for £10
Don't let your joy show too much tldr
Everyone on earth benefits from getting bolsonaro out of office and stopping his campaign to destroy the Amazon. They should be happy.
@@elijahculper5522 you talk of humanity, but this left is only fueled by anti-humanism. Your happiness is self harm and mental illness
@@penzorphallos3199 yes. Wanting to preserve biodiversity is self harm. You figured it out. Good job.
The video is full of incomplete information, which lead to erroneous conclusions about what happens in Brazil and brings some dubious veracity information. The most important fact is that Lula was accused and convicted of several crimes, such as receiving bribes and concealing assets.
The first scandal, still in the first Lula Government, was the "Mensalão", where Lula's party - the Workers' Party(PT) - passed money on to congressmen to approve their agendas and nominations to the other powers. Several party members, ministers of state and his political allies were arrested, but Lula was not accused of anything at the time.
In Lula's second term, Brazil benefited from a boom of commodities and, due to the credit storm to contain the subprime crisis, he greatly increased credit for all, but most of it was banks and rich people, their current political allies and greater enthusiasts.
Despite having had 80% popularity, and made his successor, Dilma, in few years the country went into economic and moral crisis when corruption, mismanagement of public companies and unfinished works reached its peak. The popular housing program, which generated a bubble on houses market, became constructions of stadiums for FIFA World Cup and Olympics, some of these projects were either abandoned, or had no use after the Games.
"Mensalão" became "Petrolão", and the largest Public Oil Company had almost US$ 200 billion in losses. Only one of the company's chief operating officer returned about $20 million to the public coffers. Some of that money financed pharaonic projects for foreign warlords. Brazil's GDP, with Lula's successor, fell half a trillion dollars in a year, while the planet grew in 2014. We get record unemployment, debt and bankruptcies. The president was impeached for budgetary irregularities, but a nominee by Lula in the supreme court decided to keep her political rights, in a reinterpretation of the Impeachment Law.
After the departure of his successor, who was protecting Lula from investigations, he was charged and tried in three instances, but those appointed to the Supreme Court by Lula began to act. First, they made it illegal for a person to be arrested without trial in a Supreme Court (in Brazil there would be 4 trials), when the court itself, a few years earlier, had already decided that arrests after 2 trails were legal. Then, five years after the operation that arrested Lula, another minister appointed to the Supreme Court by Lula's group, and who had campaigned for his party, said that Lula had been judged in the wrong place, in the first trail, and ordered to judge again all the cases he had suffered. However, as in Brazil, for people over 70 years of age, the processes have a shorter prescription period, many of the most advanced cases have automatically prescribed. Thus, Lula was once again eligible, as pure as a baby.
I wish there was space for a reject vote on ballots where there is an option to reject all of the candidates on the ballot and if the rejections win (majority), a new election would be held where the rejected candidates were no longer on a ballot for the new election. This would help reduce the candidate tendencies to run negative campaigns by negotiating with the competition to avoid a general rejection.
Reject in the second ballot? Sounds like a terrible idea
That would draw out elections to unacceptable lengths and increase the opportunities for fraud.
I believe what you are refering to is a blank vote, which does exist in some countries voting procedures. But in this case it was a runoff, a 2nd round between the most voted candidates from the 1st round. It would have no effect other than chaos to do that on the 2nd round, because you can always use the difference of the 1st round of voting in case of tie or the bank votes winning.
in brazil, we have something called the blank vote. you can vote blank whenever you want. But it doesn't mean the election will be canceled if people reject every single candidate
@@logangrifo brazil has the blank vote on both rounds
Lula isn't a socialist by any account - so the title is not only clickbait-y, but false information. It also makes TL;DR News look very biased, which I know you guys aren't. So the title should be changed.
So wierd that people are excited about this guy getting back into office.. He ruled for 7 years and the country clearly stagnated despite these grand claims of "immense success"
Let's face it.. He was elected because the alternative is garbage..
That’s the censorship department and the magic of mainstream media for you! It will call the truth a lie and persecute anyone who says otherwise!
@@juanranger4214 let's not get carried away here.. The best candidate was clearly elected as his opponent was either an idiot or intentionally malicious.
My point is that the bar is extremely low if we pic leaders just because they are not Trump like. We can't afford to have more of the same.. We need better than career politicians.
@@kasper7203 Dude I live here. Having thugs and criminals celebrate his win already shows he is way worse than Bolsonaro.
@@juanranger4214.. Yeah.. Sure he is buddy.. Whatever helps you sleep at night
We say here in Brazil that love is like gasoline, it's expensive, it's short-lived, and you can replace it with alcohol.
Now that the truckers are gone, get ready for fuel stations to run out of gas, etanol and diesel soon, prices will skyrocket like the last time truckers gone on strike.
4 years of Bolsonaro making diesel prices more and more expensive, and truckers never went on strike like they done before.
You should have noted that he wasn’t president when he was arrested and convicted (and later had his conviction annulled).
NO he was a criminal before that. I'm sure that makes a difference. The World Economic Forum doesn't seem to care they just want him there to wreak the country so it can be pillaged and raped by the west after it collapses as a result of socialist policies.
It would have been useful if you could have included Bolsanaro's proposed manifesto, and also speak about Brasil's Supreme Court authoritarian senior judge Moraes who seems to wield more power than the president, acting as a unilateral accuser, judge, jury and sentencer of journalists.
Lula is the furthest thing from a socialist. Oh, he identifies as a leftist for politics but his actual policies are anything but socialist. DUring his previous presidency, he liberalized the Brazilian economy, cut taxes for businesses and banks, made several trade deals that made Brazilian exports cheap and very lucrative, and he attracted foreign investment to Brazil. Lula is not stupid like most South American politicians. He may identify as a leftist to sway the largely political and culturally left-leaning Brazilian urban populous, but he is not willing to destroy his country's economy with *actual socialist policies.*
He's a social democrat basically.
He is as left as Joe Biden is left in a sense that everybody that is not a fascist is left. Lula was a leftist in the 90s but then he leaned to a center-left to be elected. Still when compared to Bolsonaro, Elon Musk is a leftist.
@@soundscape26 Exactly. Socialist in name only and thank God for that! Last thing any South American country needs is another Peron to destroy their economy and society.
@@soundscape26 yeah but because social is also in socialism, all the idiots who don't understand ideologies will call him a communist
Still better than bolsanaro
I think the title of this is pretty misleading. You can argue Lula was a socialist like 40-30 years ago, but, today, he is centre/centre-left
Yeh he's not a socialist, just socialist-lite. He's just a criminal parasite that will suck Brazil dry so the Western Elite can come in and loot the place. Your standard of living is going to plummet, mark my words! you will soon see the error of your ways when he says your country out and sucks you dry!
No.
1:04 It was actually annulled meaning for all intents and purposes he was never convicted.
never *convicted
@@ackbooh9032 I hate autocorrect.
Not exactly anulated. The supreme court just ruled that his trial happend in the wrong place and so it should start all over again but them his convction expired.
The analogus would be if I killed someone in Rio moved to São Paulo was tried in Rio but them the supreme court ruled I should have been tried in São Paulo but the crim happened 30 years ago so now I cant be convicted by it.
Epstein was never convicted either. Neither was Stalin or Fidel Castro or Kim Jung Il or Mao. Communists and Socialists rarely ever get convicted but they often convict a lot of people they don't like so I'll be keeping my eye out for how many Bolsonaro supporters get disappeared or lose their bank accounts because that's democracy!
@@shadowreaver1851 American?
The thing people don’t talk about Lula enough is how unpredictable his governments are. When he was first elected Lula was the leader of the left, of the social liberal agenda but had a lot of right leaning economic policies, continuing the monetary policy from FHC government, increasing even higher the interest rate and reducing drastically the public debt. He started his 3rd government in a huge war against the president of Brazil’s Central Bank accusing him of keeping the interest rate way above the necessary and Lula gave lots of interviews saying that his not prioritizing policies to control the public debt because the government needs to pay for all the current policies plus policies with the purpose of fighting poverty and starvation, which I think is REALLY FAIR even though there are ways of doing it without disrespecting Brazil’s debt control policies. On the other hand, Lula appointed Fernando Haddad as the Minister of Economy, and Haddad is consider by Brazilian media as “the most toucan of the worker’s party” (making reference to PT traditional opponent in the pools PSDB a center right party) due to Haddad’s efforts to reduce the public debt, having a good relationship with Roberto Campos Neto (Central Bank president), his good relationship with moderate right wingers and his recent support from Faria Lima (Brazil equivalent of Wall Street).
I hate Bolsonaro with my whole heart and would never give him my vote by I always tend to look carefully at Lula because I really don’t know what to expect from him.
"Zekenksy is partially to blame" is a really dumb take though.
It's like those who claim women who get raped are to blame because they dressed a certain way.
Russia is just an incel that didn't get it's way because their attitude drives people away from them. Rather than change themselves they'd rather try to force others.
It's how he stays neutral with people that are hardliners for BRICS, eventually he will force Russia & China out as they are intent on erasing Brazil's tourism & plundering their resources.
His successor Dilma Rousseff, from the same party, actually sided completely with Russia.
Yes you can argue that previous Ukrainian government can share some blame but Zelensky had nothing to do with it
@@AmirSatt There is no blame for an invaded country when the only reason the invading country comes is to annex regions. There is a reason why people say "partially" but never reference any reason for that. Because there isn't.
Just FYI, Lula's conviction being annuled doesn't mean he was found not guilty, his criminal record was still an impediment for him running for office. There was a vote to reinstate his political rights and, thanks to Bolsonaro's purposeful inaction, Lula was allowed to run. Bolsonaro was counting on anti-Lula sentiment for an easy win.
A few mistakes: during the 1960s and 70s Brasil used to grow 10% a year, with 1971 growing 15%. So the economy didn’t grow at the fastest rate under Lula
This time was during the military dictatorship, it is worth mentioning
only because the economy had collapsed before that...
I think he meant 21st century by modern history (Brazil's democracy didn't start under fhc). Besides, the economic growth under Medici/Geisel is heavily misleading because inflation was much higher at the time. That is why, despite growing so much, the minimum wage (which was frozen during the whole period) lost much of its purchasing power under the economic 'miracle'.
@@Javra88 also is good to metion the chaos that came after, the 80s were knew as the lost decade.
I feel truly sorry for the people of Brazil, having to choose between a communist and a fascist. What happened to moderation in politics?
Lula is not even close to be a communist politician. He is a center to center-left politician, in his government the banks had a rise of 700% in their profits. There were three real communists running for president (Sofia Manzano, Léo Péricles e Vera Lucia), but they didn't get even 0,2% of the votes combined.
Ah yes, anything remotely left of center is communist. Dude's a literal capitalist lmao
@@prim16 ah, yes anything right of center is fascism. Looks familiar?
the centre right was called as facist by years and years, so people from right choose an oposition stronger to protect themselves from left.
@@lucascarvalho7195neofascism is a thing, and liberal institutions try to hide it. You’ve been a subject of liberal brainwashing.
“we will have relations with everyone”
what a fantastic quote
It's terrible and weak!
@@freeman10000 what?
He lost cause he was “Trump of Brazil”
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Relieved Bolsonaro lost but does anyone else think that Brazil needs to do away with the Presidential system and have a Prime minister?
In the 1990s, there was a referendum here in Brazil where it was asked if it would be better to return to Monarchy, to go to a Parliamentary Republic or to a Presidential Republic. The Presidential Republic won with over 70% of the votes, and now this discussion practically don't exist anymore
@@ninnes_3881 well be voting semi-presidencialism in the next election to take effect on 2030. It's already in congress
@@ninnes_3881 ouch! but presidential systems are almost always full of corruption, wannabe dictators, dictators that seize power and of really inefficient government.
actually has a proposal in congress, parlamentarism for 2030. I support.
Parlamentarism is the best model dor brazil
I thought they tried to ban him from running?
that happened in 2018, which is why bolsonaro won
In Brazil there is a Law that people convicted twice (first by a 1st degree judge then by a collegiate of 3 judges in the 2nd degree) cannot run. Lula appealed and lost unanimous in all 3 degrees of the Brazilian justice.
A Supreme Court Justice appointed by his Party and who campaigned for his Party in previous elections cancelled all Lulas convictions claiming some files were submitted to the wrong court
they did... and failed. Brazil have somewhat strong institutions so it may takes some time, but eventually justice seeps in.
@@diegovivo You forgot to mention that the judge that condemned Lula became a politician, supported Bolsonaro and leaked messages showed he was collaborating with the prosecution during the trial.
@@diegovivo are we gonna ignore that the Justice that convincted him was actually a pro-Bolsonaro guy
Thanks
5:25 Bolsonaro actually improved the ''Bolsa Família'' and created the ''Auxílio Brasil'' which is superior in both value and acessibility. He also supported the creation of PIx which allows fast and tax less transactions improving the People's economic situation.
Bolsonaro não tem nada a ver com o pix
Quando o pix foi criado pelo banco central Bolsonaro nem era presidente, e com o auxílio Brasil (que ele nem queria pagar pra começo de conversa, só implementou porque o congresso obrigou) ele basicamente pegou o bolsa família e mudou de nome como ele fez com o "minha casa, minha vida" que mudou o nome pra "casa verde amarela", Bolsonaro não fez praticamente nada em quatro anos. E quanto a melhorar a situação econômica do povo, conta outra, o salário mínimo ficou esses quatros anos sem aumento real, o brasileiro perdeu poder de compra, onde que isso é melhorar a situação econômica do povo? O pessoal comprando pele de frango e na fila do osso por causa da alta dos alimentos e a situação econômica tava boa? Kkkkkk
Why bother with a two round process? Just make it a preferential system first time around, because that's all this is in the end! So inefficient!
People voted on this election by choosing the side that they hated the least, because at the end of the day both Bolsonaro and Lula have a negative track record with governing Brazil
There were several other presidential candidates in the first round so that isn't true.
@DoubtingThomas I agree with some of the points you made but we need to take into consideration that Operation Car Wash forever tainted Lula's career, and exposed to the whole world to see how corrupt and rotten Brazil's government really was.
@@tauceti8060 Yeah, but people knew that if they voted for any of these other candidates they would be throwing away their vote, the same way that people here in the US vote either democrat or republican because they know if they vote independent they will be wasting their vote
@@tauceti8060 And yet these candidates barely got any track in the polls. All the other candidates combined represented a meager 8% of valid votes in the first round, which shows you how polarized the political landscape of our country is currently. I am absolutely sure a lot of those votes were more compelled by rejection of the main candidates rather than actually believing they might be the best leader for the nation.
One word "fraud" there 8 minute save
The real story is why he won by such a small margin
Police and Bolsonaro supporters blocked roads to stations in poorer areas and areas likely to vote Lula
it's because the government was buying votes, more than any other. Lula would win with 60% of the total votes
because he's a thief and everybody knows it... despite this youtube propaganda
Bolsonaro used the state apparatus to basically buy the vote. Massive money handouts, artificial price cuts on fuel, subsidies to truckers, 33% increase in teacher's pay (without considering if the states can pay this increase), and a massive increase in propaganda spending (while, ironically, saying he ended the spending with propaganda)
There is a actual conspiracy theory that Bolsonaro throwed cards to make Lula be his competitor becase he was the only other person unpopular enought to make Bolsonaro have a shot.
If socialist = communist for English speakers? Because it is, Lula is no socialist, just left lining
I’m not a Brazilian so I can’t speak to what is good or bad for their country, but lula’s foreign policy seems to be pretty out of touch on the world stage. Especially in democratic countries.
I am, all I can say is that my family and other millions only got good life conditions because of his social politics that was about distributing money and chances to the poor people, and now we still live better because of him, besides Bolsonaro destroying our economy and exporting a lot of food to the exterior, at the same time our hungry has doubled the size the last 5 years. I just hope the world it's in our side now 😊
@@rafaellima5432 with Lula being pro China, pro Venezuela, pro Cuba, pro Russia (after Ukrainian invasion). We know what anti democracy and anti freedom policies to expect.
@@reggievonramstein lmao, Bolsonaro government is literally full of apology of dictatorships, including our dictatorship of 1964 that United States backed, as an former Minister of Culture of him spoke a speech that comes from Hitler in 2020. Lula is in favor of the people, it doesn't matter if it's Cuban people or Chinese people. Thats the point.
@@reggievonramstein Lula isnt pro russian, He is neutral about this case, he crtictized the invasion but also critictizdd the U.S inavsion of iraq
Of course, he's a socialist
Trump of the Tropics
LMFAOOOOOO
Bolsonaro: If you count the legal votes I easily win
Yup.
2:54 is that CNP logo just a ripoff of Canada's CTV logo?
Lula the criminal lmao
Yeah! He stole my heart!
@@alvaroludolf idk bro he looks like josé Sócrates for me. So yea, you will see brazil go to a shit hole and probably be like Venezuela full of money laundering
@@sidious69 Money laundering is more of the business of one of the Bolsonaro's sons, the elder. The second sun is the homophobic gay, the third one is the fake news lunatic and the forth one is the ticktocker... so you see, in his family crime is very organised.
Lula was president in 2002 and we are fine... it was actually Bolsonaro who said many praises to Hugo Chaves at that time.
@@alvaroludolf still lula went to prison, for money laundrying and other stuff, like the Portuguese president: josé Sócrates
The video you guys showed at 3.08 is the one where Bolsonaro adresses a masonry temple
In my humble opinion you should have much, but much more knowledge about brazilian culture, history and politics to comment this process.
My only ask is for you to observe what’s going to happen to Brazil in the next new years during the administration of this person, who has already been president for two consecutive terms and was responsible for the biggest corruption scandal in the history of the mankind. Now this same criminal is back in power supposedly by popular vote.
It’s a sad state of affairs and unfortunately, the only one losing will be the brazilian population.
I hope I’m wrong.
All the best
the only corruption was the fascist judge who put him in jail not themselves being thrown in jail after it was found the ruled incorrectly
@@afgor1088 so, in your mind there were no crimes? How do you explain the money return by the ones involved to have their sentences reduced?
Just wait and see what this thief os going to do. Wait and see.
And there’s another interesting miss conception by your part: he was sentenced by a judge, appealed and was sentenced by a college of judges, appealed to the Supreme Court and lost for the third time, so, he was not judged and sentenced by only one individual. More than 8000 pieces of evidence. Billionaire losses to Petrobras and other state owned companies, dozens sent to prison.
Stop believing in narratives and stick to the facts!
World economic forum controlling Countries needs to end. I hope Brazil can overcome this.
As a brazilian I must say, I am deeply relieved that I won't have Bolsonazi as a president anymore. Last years have been embarassing for Brasil, hopefully things will change in the near future.
I'm indian. I feel like you guys going to experience much worse under second coming of this man than your previous guy. Usually my intuition regarding geopolitics not gonna wrong.
@@syhuhjk I don't like him either, but it's not fascism
@@Sanscripter prove that he is a fascist.
@@syhuhjk Lula wants censorship. Most of the judges of the Supreme Court were elected by his party (workers party) and are ALREADY CENSORING many right wing politicians and workers, already arrested people who spoke against their ways, congress and senate are completely silent and freedom of protest and speech is dead! How is a censorship department any better than Bolsonaro. Saying that we the right wing are fascists is a lie created by the left wing mainstream media! We didn’t arrest or silence anyone who spoke against us!
@@Sanscripter ask cuba how much better is communism
There is no hunger in Brazil. Bolsonaro gives the greatest handouts to anyone who needs, higher than Lula's bolsa família.
honestly, we don’t *need* him to concede to anything lol while he waited in silence like a child for nearly three days, the rest of government got on without him, preparing transition. he only said something because it was getting ridiculous
Lula is not a socialist.
And here I thought Brazil couldn't get anymore worse.
2 pounds of feathers? or what.
Despite the slandering of Lula, he won anyways. That's pretty amazing.
it's not a slander to point out that socialists are monsters.
@@Tespri It's also not slander to point out that right-wingers are monsters
@@darthplagueis13 rofl, objectively speaking left-wingers have done more atrocious actions and more actions against humanity than right-wing
@@Tespri lifting people out of poverty and hunger doesn't sound "monster" for me brother
@@reasonvoiceof facts
Would be embarrassing if your 10000th was your next-door neighbour XD.
So much for Great Value Trump.
Even that feels like romanticizing him
We are seeing the end of nationalism. Our world will now be run entirely by scumbags who work for the World Economic Forum and they will wreak our countries so they can be built back worse!
by having extensive help from international actors like the WEF (which is behind Alexandre de Moraes / Michel Temer). end of discussion.
The new Venezuela.
Yep, now is time to sell all stocks from brazil. Its about to be massive starvation and record level human rights violations. But remember... even this time it won't be "true socialism"
Yeah, Brazil almost became the new Venezuela... but everything will be fine now.
@@alvaroludolf Are you saying that right wing government increased wellfare spending and crippled the economy to the point that economy can't handle both of these extremes same time?
@@Tespri Shoo... I told you already that the adults are talking... go play somewhere else or I ll tell you dad when he gets home.
@@alvaroludolf between us two... only I'm the one acting like adult. You see adults focus on arguments instead of trying to insult and demean their opponents without providing any arguments to the table.
You however... act like some 9-year old kid on playfield.
(with regards to the contest) Lol, someone has been watching Jetlagged The Game