Triumph Bonneville T120 Review
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2016
- At last I get to ride the highly anticipated and critically acclaimed Triumph Bonneville T120 - The new liquid called 1200cc "classic" complete with ride by wire, riding modes, traction control, etc...this is my first impressions type review.
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this is my dream bike and i now have one
love it
Livin' the dream Jake - good man!
Yes true. Sadly I haven't got much leisure time lately as my two year old son Thomas was diagnosed with a condition called NF1 since January and doctors also found tumours in his brain and also in his optic nerve. His right eye bulged out quite a bit due to one tumour growing so much. He's been on chemotherapy since and had with MRIs. Hope this ends well. Most of my time is obviously spent with him. Thank god for your uploads. They keep my spirit a bit lifted. looking forward for the Thruxton R video.
+stephen spiteri Oh dear Stephen, that is awful news - my thoughts are with you friend. There is nothing worse than having a child ill and I can't imagine what you must all be going through.....best wishes to you and your family, really sorry that you are all having to deal with this and here's hoping for a positive outcome...all the best - TMF
Good review Andy.
Thanks 👍
Nice review sir!!! Planning to have one very soon... Your review made me clear all my doubts... Cheers from India :)
You'll love it, fab machine - enjoy!
Looks fun and looks quick looking to may get one
nice review pal, was considering one next year if I have a test ride this year and like it.
+DropaGear Thank you DropaGear, go get yourself a go on one, if you've ridden the old Bonnie you'll love this, better in every way....thanks for watching - all the best - TMF
Thank You for the review. Can't wait till you get to the new 2016 Explorer 1200
Cheers, Craig
+Craig Warden Thanks for watching once again Craig!
Man, that bike is screaming for either low profile or bar-end mirrors! I'd also get rid of the cat and use Tec's X pipe, and some V&H slip-ons, a K&H filter, and some of those micro LED indicators. Other than that I'd just add a clear, half height windscreen. Then it would be, for me anyway, just about the perfect general purpose bike.
I love the mix of retro styling and modern technology combined with Triumph's beautiful engineering and quality build.
You sir, do an excellent job of producing your videos. The camera angles are just right and you've even got the mics placed perfectly. Fine editing as well. Hats of for a well done job, sir.
I was about to pick up a 2018 T120 Black from my dealer however, I just stumbled across a slightly used 2017 a few towns away for only $8500 U.S. money.
Is there anything in particular that I should be looking for on a slightly used bike with hardly any miles? The bike looks factory new, but are there any common wear spots I should be careful of? Thanks. You make very well done films.
The only thing I’d look out for is corrosion/tarnishing on any chromed areas (not an issue on the black of course!). Other than that a great solid machine as far as I can tell....
Thank you for the excellent review! I ordered my 2017 T120 last week and should have it soon. Just sold my Harley and have also owned sport bikes ( 2012 Kawasaki ninja 1000). I was looking for something different and I think the t120 fits the bill! Should be a bit easier to maneuver around New York streets. Loved your 2017 Speed a Triple review! I also subscribed! Excellent reviews sir!
Great stuff, nice to hear of a Triumph fan in the US! I'm intrigued by your handle and avatar - tell me more???
Very nice bike, I have a T100 '19, it's a great ride
beautiful bike and a great review .thanks.what have you heard ,your thoughts ,on recalls and gearbox issues please.just trying to get info before buying a bike,
I do love the look of the bike. I appreciate the torque figures are good however I don't think I could bring myself to buy a bike with such low H.P. Great review, thank you TMF.
+ewanoffshore Well figures on paper aren't everything and the bike feels plenty powerful to me from 0-70mph (i.e. where it counts)...and I'm coming as a Panigale rider! If you are at all tempted then best to have a go on one. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for stopping by once again - all the best - TMF
Good review, thanks
+Jeff Cee you're welcome!
nice bike and good review!
+allen Henry Thanks Allen - and cheers for watching!
I am a retired Police Officer on Long Island, New York. I spent some of my time on the job flying the Police Helicopter and now enjoying my time flying my own plane and of course riding my motorcycles! The 4202 is my Police badge number. My new T120 should get to the dealership sometime this week and I will send you some pics! This will be my first Triumph!! Can't wait
Great stuff, what aeroplane do you fly? I used to have a TB-10 but am a PA28 jockey these days....
Flew an Aronica Champ for years.
Good thorough review, they've done a good job of not making the fork reflectors look daft! Honda could learn a thing or two from the Triumph design team 😉
+DervMan I think everyone can learn from the Triumph designers, those guys are on fire at the moment!!
very good review!!
+Lee Grattan Thank you Lee - much appreciated...
Another interesting review - Triumph Fan.
Thanks - appreciate your kind words :0)
Very good and objective review, it made me want one these even more!, the Bonnie´s are not very usual in Mexico, everyone wants a HD so bad, not me in this case. I might sell my 2010 1600 Thunderbird and get a T120 hoping to keep it in my garage for at least 10 years, cheers.
Nice one Armando - for me a Triumph trumps a Harley anytime! Thanks for watching and for the kind words - TMF
On Harleys..They are pug nowadays
pug???
Yes, excellent level headed report. I had an 865 Bonneville and never really understood what it was for. Sounds as if you might be wondering the same here. Hopefully the Thruxton might raise your heart rate a bit! Hard to know what to replace the Street with.
+Stephen Binns Thanks Stephen - I do like the bike, I'm just not convinced it gives me anything over and above what I get from the Street Triple....not that I'm in any rush to change it to be fair....thanks for watching and for dropping by once again - all the best - TMF
I visited my local(ish) Triumph dealer on Saturday for the 'T Fest 2016' - basically an open day showing off the 2016 MY range, with a hog roast and free drinks and I made the mistake of sitting on the new T120 Black. Felt instantly at home on it, whereas I felt the Street Twin was a bit of a 'toy' bike, the T120 felt a mature, grown up product, with some fantastic detailing, such as the brass on the look-a-like amal carbs. I can certainly see myself buying one as an addition to the Explorer, once I've got my man cave sorted out. Another enjoyable, informative review MF. 👍😊
+Mark Smith Thanks Mark - and yes I entirely agree, the T120 is a much more substantial offering.....
HA! I've seen tons of your videos - I believe this is the first where I saw sunshine! ;-)
Doesn’t happen very often!
That's a great review. The Buckinghamshire roads seems to be the right environment for the bike .... Ehh it might actually also fit onto my Danish back roads :-)
+Wielandt MC Touring Thanks for that...and I'm sure it would - but with your taxation an expensive option!
Beautiful
+Richy B Well, certainly a nice looking machine...note sure it's quite beautiful but everyone to their own, eh? Unless you're referring to me?
one of the bikes I want in my future collection lolz
+TheHappyRider I reckon one of these would look good in any collection!
I want one so bad. The more they go back to the classic looks of the 1950's and 60's models, the more I like them. What's that sticker on the left top part of the gas tank?
Yes they are lovely machines....the sticker is just an advisory one that comes on all new Triumphs telling you about the running in procedure and what fuel to use if I recall correctly. First thing that most people remove!
Did you get one?
everywhere i read that 120 have central stand but can´t see it in any review or on the bike.
No disrespect. I do love your reviews. Very informative.
Well MF, you'll probably think I'm mad but after 3 months of ownership the S1000R has got to go. A very quick bike - I often found myself doing faster speeds that I thought. You're review of the T120 motivated me to test one, and I loved it! Picking one up soon! More suited to me and a perfect partner to the GS. Yet again one of your reviews has been useful! Regards, Jon.
Great stuff Jon - and I entirely get where you're coming from, what colour T120 are you getting?? Exciting times waiting for a new bike eh?
It's silver and cranberry red with lots of chrome! Don't like the black version.It really did feel like an "old" bike but modern as well. It was so relaxing riding it - got few looks from other motorists. Been very lucky, normal delivery if ordered now is in March 2017, they had a cancelled order just as I walked into showroom for test ride. Picking it up this Friday!!!! Getting it from Pure Triumph in Wellingborough, bit smaller than Herts Triumph but they are very good. Cheers for now. Jon
JLO Staff I did exactly this. Sold my s1000r for t120. Crazy I know but I just loved t120 and it serves my commuting better. Though I loved every bit of my s1000r. If I could keep 2 bikes; s1000r would be my second. I hope you are enjoying your t120.
Hi Siraj, still loving the T120. I'm lucky enough to have just bought a BMW S1000XR as well - a GS version of the S1000R! Glad to hear your T120 is right for the job.
JLO Staff hey how did the t120 hold up?
Hi Flyer,
Thanks for the prompt reply. Your videos and reviews are quite informative , entertaining and honest. thats the reason why I wanted to know your choice of machine if you had to select between these 2016 models T120 and T100. Hope you did ride the T100 too.. If so what would you prefer? The T120 or T100 [ only between these two ] [ otherwise I know your obvious choice is the street triple ]
Cheers
Well I quite favour the T100 due it's lightness, it has all the quality and style of the T120 but isn't quite so much of a lump (same reason as I prefer the Street Triple over the Speed Triple)....more cc's doesn't always mean more fun!
great video, I also think bar end mirrors would be more fitting :)
+George Illing Luckily an easy and relatively cheap mod - thanks for stopping by once again George, good hearing from you....TMF
Interesting review again thanks. Looks like a nice toy and I'd love one as a second bike, but I agree...... those mirror stalks are awful and dominate the riders view! Might look a little better in chrome.... or in the bin!!
+mars0030 LOL - yes I'd go with your second option! At least it's an issue that can be very easily resolved....thanks for stopping by, all the best - TMF
Hi TMF, thanks for the video and the review. I had a Bonneville T100 before my Tiger and enjoyed it; however, it wasn't particularly good as an all year round commuter, especially in the darkness of winter. I agree with you though that Triumph have done a very good job with their new range of retro bikes; are you going to test the Thruxton? Cheers, Andy
+Andrew Tofts Stay tuned Andy...the video is in the can!
I test rode the T120 last week found the fueling very poor when cold, super view of my elbows & suspension very harsh. Nice bit of poke from the engine, but the sound was very quiet not what I expected. came away disappointed after looking forward to riding the T120. The Tiger Sport 1050 on the other hand I would buy, a lot more fun & more comfortable.
+vince halls Yeah I must give one of them a go some time, I loved my old Tiger 1050 and they've come a long way since my 2009 model - I love the looks of the thing too....all the best - TMF
Great review, the mirrors were not good for me when I test rode, I could not seem to get them into an adequate position for good views behind for me im approx 6ft 1, but with a bit more playing around they might be ok? Or the barends may be better but not cheap from the triumph catalogue!. On all other points with the bike I like it a lot very diffeent from my previous bikes so there may need to be some adaptaion, but that is true of most bikes.
Im actually getting my new T120 Black next week but with the Graphite paint option which im very much looking forward to, Happy Riding
+chris bolwell Exciting times ahead Chris! Enjoy the new bike.....
Very good first impression review and a very good looking machine. The mirrors look very similar to the ones on my '02 TBA. While I agree they do look like Mickey Mouse ears (something I've said about mine for 14 years) they are very good if you want to know what's going on behind you.
+ratjaw75 Yes that is true, those fugly mirrors do seem to work well! Sadly when it comes to motorcycles form over function sometimes wins for me though! Thanks for watching and for stopping by....all the best - TMF
I've hired this bike on a trip to Belfast, never ridden a big bike before only geared 125cc would you consider it to be beginner friendly... Don't particularly want my arms ripped off 🙄
Hi Flyer,
Fantastic Job with your reviews. A request --- >
Very interesting reviewT120, but would appreciate if you could consolidate and compare your experience with both these machines [ T120 and T100 - 2016 models]. And your personal preferences..
hehe, what a larf, if only I had the power and contacts to make these things happen, thanks for the idea though all the same.....
Any issues with the squealing brakes? Seems to come up often.
I wan t the T120 but am thinking of the T100 as an option.
+Nelson Figueiredo No no issues at all...
Good Review! I'm planning on trading my Thruxton for it soon! Do you think it would make a good touring bike as well?!!
+Donavan Thanks Donovan - and yes, I'm sure it would be ideal if you could solve the luggage issue (i.e. get some fitted) - Cheers for stopping by, all the best - TMF
And also you look to have nice riding conditions down there. In Lancashire we are suffering frost and therefore salt on the roads, at the end of April. My bike doesn't see salt so therefore I'm not able to ride in the midst of Spring!!
+jmcphee7 Actually we had a very hard frost this morning and it snowed here about an hour ago!!
+jmcphee7 And here I am wondering if I will have to run the air conditioner this afternoon...Here in the southwest U.S. it's prime bike weather, mid 80's F for the high and wall to wall sunshine... Jealous yet? HA! I just got my RT back after the "run-in" maintenance and I'm ready to hit the road(s).
I'm sure they'll sell them by the shed load. I was trying to remember if you had ever reviewed either of the current Tigers, particularly by way of comparison, as "adventure" bikes, with the R1200GS. I don't think you have, have you?
+Len Scapoff Nope I haven't - I would like to ride one of the 800's though - I'll add it to my list :0) Cheers Len - good to hear from you again.....
nice review again TMF, I had a t120 bonneville albeit in 1975 ha, it does look good, went to performance triumph open weekend, they are certainly churning out some good bikes, giving the public what they want, by the way any luck with the panigale chain?.
+Peter Gunton Yes these will no doubt sell by the truck load.....chain gets sorted tomorrow I hope Peter...stay tuned!
Great review... Liked it thoroughly. A few queries... I live in India, in the district, with poor, potholed roads and massive speed-breakers erected to stop buses and other behemoths. Will the T120 muster these massive erections (pun intended!)? I was thinking about the ground clearance. Secondly, I am over 6 feet tall and weight about 130kgs. I also suffer from a bad back brought about by motorcycling. Been off the bike for over eighteen months. I was wondering if you could comment on the comfort factor of the ride - you've already mentioned it during the review - especially the seat, foot-peg, handlebar ratio. Thanks. Sudev Pratim Basu.
+Sudev Basu Hi Sudev, very comfy bike with soft suspension, I would think it would cope with potholed roads very well (and the erections!) - enjoy! All the best - TMF
Always loved this bike and wish I could test ride one but I'm only 16 in the UK the bike sounds very quite is it that quite in person
No, it has a lovely rumble....hang in there, your time will come!
I'm a bit confused. I love the triumph bikes. The street twin...t100 t1200 but struggle to see the differences. Are the t range bigger?
Nope - just slightly different spec/styling all very similar bikes......
Hello from Texas! I know my question doesn't directly apply to this bike but it's the closest for comparison. I'm looking to get a bike next year. I was going for a Africa Twin but with the new Bonneville Bobber out I'm not sure. I would be riding it daily, 100ish miles a day, all highway. Do you think the triumph would be a good bike to ride daily like that, rain and cold included. Thanks!
Hi Ted, I don't see why not as these retro Triumph's these days are very modern and in my experience very reliable - I guess the only question might be that seat and I guess for that you'll have to wait and have a try on one...amazing looking machine though eh?
yes they are. it's gonna be a tough decision. thanks for the response.
Good lines... Plenty of low down grunt... Looks like a big bonnie... It'll sell no dought about that.... Id keep the triple tho!
Good first thoughts vid bud. Rsmf
+WEGGY zx12r Yes, no plans to swap out the STR just yet....I've another video coming on that very subject soon...cheers - TMF
I've only done 270 miles and am changing the rear shock absorbers for Hagon 2810s because I can feel every bump in the road through my upper body. Very disappointed with the quality of the ride and hope the new shocks revives the bike in my eyes. It is a thing of beauty, but looks aren't everything.
Very true!
I would add a screen and the cruise options. Wonder if they do luggage for it.
+Boodieman72 ...if they don't, I'm sure the after market boys soon will......
You've got great universal bags from Wolfman (if think) which you can find at revzilla!
Had to check if I was right..
www.revzilla.com/wolfman
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Mr Flyer, I've noticed that you, Phil480, and Capt Rambunctious seem, on occasion, to cross the same small bridge when you come to it. Are you all three located down in the same south coast area? What are the odds that my three faves would be so closely colocated.
I’m not sure where Phil is based but yes, me and Captain R are within 15 miles of each other...
Another suggestion that I would love to see in your 15 min riding "Bike reviews" is
1. add atleast a 3 min video of you riding the bike from another 2 angles.
a. Maybe from another camera fixed at a particular point
b. or from a camera of another biker following you.
cheers
Yeah that would be great - do you want to come along with me and volunteer as that second biker/cameraman? ....these things are quite hard to do when you're a one man/one camera production! But thanks for the suggestion, maybe one day when I have a crew ;0)
I am creeping up on the 25k mile mark on my 2018 T120. Judging from a visual inspection it looks like it's time for a new chain and sprocket. Any suggestions for a high quality brand for replacement?
thanks for the video!
No not really - sorry!
good video :)
+The Mad Scouse Thank you...
Any idea how to reset the little wrench/spanner icon on the speedo once you hit the 500 mile mark?
I suspect take it to a dealer for the first service and have it reset ;0)
Obviously. I was asking on behalf of the DIY maintenance folks out there. Hoping you had ownership experience with it.
Contender to replace your street triple... nah don't think so.
The Triumph Thruxton R though... Any chance of giving that bike a go?
+stephen spiteri Stay tuned Stephen - I rode the Thruxton, video will be up in a few days :0) Good to hear from you again, it's been ages!
I am torn between getting a T120 Black and a BMW R Nine T Pure. Same price but which of the two do you recommend???
Both great - get which one you like the looks of most (I’d have the R9T I think)....
TheMissendenFlyer I love the vintage classic look of the T120. But I feel the R9T has more performance. I’m planning on keeping this choice for a long time. I’m afraid I might make the wrong decision.
Great best of both worlds bike; modern convenience and for the non bikers, when they glance at it, they all think it's an old classic. LOL. The bike won't sit at low speed in higher gears (it stutters and coughs when you do this) you do have to change down otherwise it doesn't like it. The switch gear and features are all easy to use. It does what it says on the tin and the tin says: ''classic, retro Bonneville with modern bits added for fuller flavour''. I am a mature biker and the 80 bhp is more than enough on British crowded potholed third world roads. The suspension IS on a budget but ridden within the bikes design brief it's all good. The new Speed Twin or Thruxton will give you more ponies if you wish. The engine is superb; I'm at 24,000 miles and it still sounds like new. If you want a nice colour the ''Cinder red'' version looks lovely She's a good looking gal and you get plenty of attention. I believe the Bonnevilles are all built in Thailand factories now but that's fine as far as I am concerned because the quality is very very good as Missenden Flyer says the ''fit and finish'' is really superb. I came from a Kawasaki W 800 a retro bike too, (2014 model) and although I loved the classic retro Kwacker the Bonneville does have a certain little extra ''something'' 9 out of 10 for me. Only let down by the suspension on a budget springs and forks but don't let that stop you buying this wonderful machine. A really lovely lady (all my bikes are women LOL ).I love her.
Great stuff - thanks for watching and for stopping by....
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks and keep up the great reviews; when are you doing a Spitfire (the aeroplane that is) review ? LOL.
....now wouldn't that be something!
Nice one! The bike really looks nice. Especially like the dual dynos. They look much better then the one on the previous model. Why would you replace the STR in case you got the new Bonnie? Are they not very different bikes? Or would you then rather use the Panigale for the faster afternoon rounds?
+lookert ..they are indeed different bikes but for me they would fulfil a similar mission, that of "Summer evening blatting about B Roads" - so if I had both I'm not sure if I'd use them both enough (if you follow my logic)....no plans to get rid of the STR yet though :0)
+TheMissendenFlyer Ah okay, yeah that makes sense. I wouldn't be able to give the bikes enough attention if I had as many as you do!
+lookert ...I'm not complaining - it's a good problem to have (but does make me realise that any more than 4 at one time would be silly if I actually want to ride 'em)...cheers - TMF
You need to take the thruxton R out for a spin, I had a test ride on Monday, it's a completely different animal
+Ben 1022 ...what makes you think I didn't ;0) ...stay tuned...
There seems to be a lot of sky reflection within the gauges making them hard to read. Is this so? The gauges do look to be very shallowly set.
It is a very nice looking bike but has it got that 'must have' attribute? I'm not sure it quite reaches that level especially if it turns out to be more popular than a T100 where every Tom, Dick and Harry's got one or had one.
Some very Harley-ish additions to this model with the association to Vance & Hines, monogram headlights, retro styling and a plethera of aftermarket parts options.
Very nice to look at but...and there lies the rub. tcrs.
+Hepcat Harley Hi HH - I didn't notice a particular problem reading the gauges, but then I am used to squinting at the GS dials!! It is a nice bike but I'm with you, didn't slap me around the face as a "must have" machine like my other bikes have...I'm sure it will be a huge seller for Triumph though, there is nothing wrong with the bike, it is very nice....
i would bet at certain times of the day these will glare at you very badly just as the previous models do. triumph would do well to add a dial visor and maybe curved or anti glare glass.
Nice review. You said you wanted to compare between the T120 & your Street Triple? Totally different everything, not really a fair comparison don't ya think?
+colblimp1882 Yes I agree they are different types of bike but for me they both fulfil the "blatting about the lanes on a Summer's evening" role - hence my comparison comment, not really meant as in lets compare the bikes, more lets compare how good they each are at the mission in question - not sure I put that very well but hope it makes sense. Thanks for stopping by, all the best - TMF
Hi MF. Great review again. Taking one out myself in next few weeks so we can "compare notes!" My guess is I will like it but not as much as a street triple. I think the only possible replacement is a speed triple so I am going to refrain from testing one!! Regards, Jon.
+JLO Staff ....have you ever ridden a Speed Triple before? I've not ridden the new one but certainly on the older versions the additional weight trumped (for me) the extra oomph - and so the Street Triple won. Maybe the real replacement will be the new 800cc Street Triple when its released :0)
Hi MF, no I haven't ridden the Speed - thanks for the heads up on the 800cc Street, I wasn't aware one was coming. Regards, Jon
+JLO Staff Well a test bike has been spotted by the biking press so it'll be a while until we see it...but I can wait!
With a GS and street triple to play with in the interim - so can I! :)
Last week I had a Test Ride with the T120 - and for me there where some drawbacks I had not expected: In the mirrors I don't see very much. The fueling was bad, especially in combination with the very light throttle grip. Often I rode more than I drove.- In rain mode it is a little better. With drive by wire you have no real connection to the engine. The throttle feeling is vague. And for me the sound is also a bit disappointing: The engine itself is very quite, there is no mechanical sound (like on a Harley or even on the W800). You only hear the exhaust - and for my ears the exhaust was too loud. The position of the brake pedal was too deep - perhaps that can be corrected. Before I had the Test Drive the T120 was my favorite - now I'm thrown back in my search for the ideal bike - and perhaps will drive my (soft an smooth) W800 further more...
+Toni R Yeah, I've not ridden the W800, certainly looks like a nice bike - and agree with you about the stock noise of the T120, but had no issues with fuelling or throttle "feel" - Thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF
Any changes for 2018? Regardless, this beaut will be under the Christmas this December! :)
I don't know, Triumph haven't released any 2018 bikes yet (normally get announced around September time with first UK showings at the NEC show in November)...
Wait... the heated grips were STANDARD? ugh thats reallly nice. Can't tell you how many winters on my street triple i could have used that.
+Triumph Babe I 100% share your enthusiasm as a fellow winter Street Triple rider - in fact I could have done with them on the ride into the dealers on my STR this morning, hands were freezin'! ...and yes, they are standard on the T120 (but oddly not the Thruxton). Thanks for watching and stopping by, such a thrill to have a female make a comment for a change!!
Haha what do females normally do? Post only and only reply to comments on their own? Selfish bitches :p jk I'm just starting to really use this account and I figured whats the point of following others if i'm not going to watch their videos too? Discourteous to request followers if you don't watch peoples.
It's never mattered what gloves or how many layers of liners i wear on my hands, always freeze in the winter and its usually really mild here with maybe 26 degree F temps at the lowest i've ridden in.
+Triumph Babe ...well it's not what females normally do that's the issue, it's the fact that I have very few female viewers - 5% if You Tube stats are to be believed :0( ...and yes, the old battle to keep the hands warm is the eternal bikers dilemma...I've tried heated gloves, liners, warmer gloves, heated patches, only thing that helps really is heated grips....toasty!
Hi all,
Anyone has tried the sound of the v&h pipes so far?? Would be interested but have not found any video/sound yet also considering the price....thanks all
+Tommaso Tini Yes good call - I'd like to hear those too (though it's never as good on YT as "in the flesh")....cheers - TMF
How are you pulling away in 5th gear 30mph, mine need 3rd gear for that even then it's not smooth I get judder
+Dave Eastwood Seemed to work for me!
Can you do a review of the Africa Twin? In comparison to the GS...
+Dan Merralls Love to Dan, do you know anyone who can lend me one? ;0)
Your local Honda garage might ;) failing that, some kind of bizarre crossover with The Crumble?
+Dan Merralls hehe - sadly my local Honda dealer is a fair distance away (inconveniently so) - which is a shame as id love a go on the big CRF....
Good afternoon, like your vids, but i do have a question. In your last vid on the Triumph street twin, you said that you are a fan, yet in this in this vid you state you are not a fan, but like them, still good vids like.
Whaaat inconsistency, I can't have that!!! Let me put the record straight, I am a huge fan of Triumph motorcycles :0) Thanks for watching and for stopping by - all the best - TMF
Thats what i thought, had to be clear never know who's watching, new sub.
Thanks and welcome along!
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Have you done a video comparing this with a speed twin?
Not yet - but good idea!
@@TheMissendenFlyer nice one! Theres definitely parts from each bike i love
What`s the top MPH and the average MPG do you know?
Don't know I'm afraid....
I love my retro 2012 Bonnie but the weight is really to much to just haul around. if only they could make it with the same weight as an FZ-07. It would be a first go to bike and easier to live with.
Have you tried one o the new T100's or the Street Twin? I've only ridden the latter but it feels very light compared to the older air cooled models...your prayers may have been answered!
No not yet. The dealer here stop selling Triumph so I will have to take a 100 mile ride to test ride one this summer.
Oh dear :0(
What does it weigh wet, about 525 pounds? I ride a 754 pound Honda GL1800c and needless to say, the Bonnie felt very light to me on my test ride.
Hmmm don’t can’t see you parting with the street triple for this 🤔 speed twin maybe 😎
I have a Speed Twin as it happens! (and my Street Triple)
OMG. You got speed controls all over the place. Is that now all over Britain like that?
Yup!
Peter Lustig coming soon to USA 🇺🇸
Top job MF thanks
Hopefully gonna test ride in a couple of weeks as I didn't get on with street twin , too low. I hope I don't like this one too much it take some explaining why I'm chopping in a T100 for a T120 ( if I get one same colour she might not notice ! )
+andy blackburn ...liking your plan Andy! Don't get too excited though as this felt about the same height as the Street Twin to me...
Nice one - the only deal breaker for me is the silly fake carburetor.
+panzach Shame for it to be a deal breaker for you - but I'm with you on the general point, most reviewers seem to like it, but to me it smacks of fakery (in the same way a Ferrari replica based on a Mazda MR2 chassis does). I feel a similar way about the "screw on " (yet lockable) fuel cap....but funnilt enough not about the air-cooling fins - which I like to think are at least partially functional....
I have a new 2020 black, I love it ...only problem is the slight downslope of the seat is pushing my balls into the inseam of my jeans. Every once in a while I have to move back on the seat, but always end up close to the tank.😤😂
That’s typical of most motorcycles but fortunately you can purchase an aftermarket seat and problem solved
@@professorvoluck9311 oh, thanks for replying...after having the bike for 5 months and riding a lot , before it got snowy, i started getting comfortable sitting a few more inches back...also i been wearing pants with a longer inseam. Both moves helped greatly.
that's my kinda bike. 👍
+inquisitor 717 Yep - these new Trumpets seem to have struck it just right don't they....
+TheMissendenFlyer
for sure..kept the look too. very nice bikes.
Now I've had my Cinder Red T120 for a couple of weeks and I can say I really happy with it except for a couple of points. The general overall quality is very good. However, there are a couple of things that look so cheap they wouldn't be out of place on a Chinese bike. The quality of rear lights cluster is pretty awful as the plastics are cheap and naff. Also the plastics for the speedo binnacle look very cheap. That to me spoils an otherwise quality motorcycle.
+wozza59 interesting, I suppose the rear light cluster is easily replaced with something from the Accesories catalogue - speedo binnacle more tricky though! Enjoy your new bike this Summer - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Yep I am really looking forward to a good Summer (fingers crossed). Yep I will definitely be looking at changing out the rear light cluster even if I have to take it to a custom shop. Cheap flimsy plastics should not be compatible with this machine. After all Triumph made the rear mudguard and chain guard in metal and then used the cheapest plastics available for the rear light cluster - shame on you Triumph.
I was cringing when you got back on the road. "He's driving on the WRONG- wait..." I would struggle to remind myself to drive on the left lol Thanks for the great videos.
Cheers from the States
+BrennMan I have done that for real when riding in France - not funny when you think about it (especially as I was on a left hand bend!).....it's fine when other traffic is around but if it's clear and you are distracted by something else it's easily done. I have a few more videos in the can and on my list so stay tuned! Cheers from Blighty....TMF (P.S. Where in the US???)
Great to hear. I especially enjoy your GS content.
Baton Rouge/New Orleans, Louisiana
Look at youtube connecting people the world over. haha
+BrennMan Nice...and yes, isn't it great that a bloke on a motorbike here (me) can share my hobby with you all the way over there in another world...gotta love the internet!
It’s funny hearing him call this bike a big bike.
Isn't it just - what a tulip"!
Lost count of the number of times the word 'nice' was used. Damned with faint praise? Is 'nice' good enough?
I liked it!
Why is this bike £500 more expensive here in the UK as against for example in France?
Good question - Rip off Britain or the EU's fault??
My message is do your research and if you like the bike after a test ride then only offer what the rest of the EU pay or walk away. What is skewing our UK prices is the push for paying for anything from a sofa to a house on credit. Most people do not realize how credit inflates prices, simply as there is more money available. The French, as an example, are not so keen for credit as us in the UK.
Well, French like motorcyclists..maybe why.
How would you rate this for taking the wife for a weekend ride? I have been looking at bike for me to ride to work during the week but also go for rides with wife on weekends. Shes not a fan of bikes that look like crotch rockets :( but that aside, I am also looking at the tiger800, honda vfr800, , bmwF800 GT.. How would you rate the T120 with regard to suitability for me, against these bikes?
Regards
+Jeff Cee Hi Jeff I think the T120 would be great for taking a pillion, a comfy seat and nice and low so easy for you to manoeuvre at slow speeds etc two up, if you like the retro looks then go for it. I think any of the bikes you mention would also be fine but just comes down to personal taste, probably best to go test ride a few with the Mrs (if she'll come along).....start with the T120 though. Thanks for stopping by - TMF
Jeff Cee I Have a Thruxton R and my friend has vfr800, I prefer the look on the Thruxton. That said, his vfr is way better for pillion and top end power. I don't think you could go wrong with either, T120 or vfr, but your wife may find the vfr much more comfortable.
You think this would be too much bike for a newbie/first bike?
Personally yes but you know you better than I do! There are more hairy less suitable first bikes.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for your opinion. What reasons would you say yes for? I'm a new rider so I wonder what experienced riders mean specifically when they say a bike might be too much for a newbie. Is it the throttle response? Cornering difficulty? Jerkiness? I am also looking into the Street Twin but I supposed I'm just confused on what features of the bike that makes it less suitable for a noob
Dont try the new Speed Triple R.................you will want one!
+Neil Cole (Smoothound675) That's what I'm afraid of!
Hi Flyer,
Bothering you again ; about your preferences..
If you had to pick between T100 and Street Triple, for the follwoing usage
a. Mostly City Riding.. 70% of the time
b. Long Rides - 3 times a year.. as long as 400kms.
If I need to pick between T100 and Street Triple...your advice
Cheers!!
Well I've yet to ride the T100 so can't really comment - at this point I'd say Street Triple, I'm hoping to ride the T100 soon so may revise my advice!
406th. :-)
Quite a big old lump!
Very, very good point about the quality of the switchgear... BMW's really is crap!
...agreed on that! Thanks for watching and for stopping by once again - TMF
Good Moaning David. Don't get me started, Mate... I'm grumpy enough with the weather! Two new cams and three new switches on my RR and the ignition switch is now playing up. Had a K1200GT for two years... SEVEN warranty jobs, including the steering-head ball-joints (which don't last on duolever models because they, like the latest switches, are cheap and nasty). New timing cover (the paint comes off because they are machined AFTER painting), two new gear-change indicator sensors, new clutch after a mere 18,000 miles, new fuel pump relay and new ignition relay (complete loss of power while doing 70+ in lane 3 on a wet, windy and very busy M1) on my GS. "The Ultimate Riding Machine": My Arse!
Seriously , I could write a book on the subject, I have a number of friends with similar horror stories. K1600 owner ( £18000) now on his 3rd bike in 18 months ( gearbox failure +electronics ). GS owners with immobiliser failure ,a problem BMW covered up by secretly replacing at 1st service instead of having proper re-call. R nine T owner with oil leaks after 270 miles .. complete engine strip to replace gaskets .. now happening again less than 30 miles later !! The truth is the bikes are full of Chinese made parts ... but its not just the bikes !!!! ...
I used to buy into the myth of German quality , until I worked selling BMW cars for a living in the mid 90's.
Camshafts knocking because of oil starvation, crunching gearboxes the list was endless . Then my son bought a 3 series coupe from a main dealer a couple of years ago ( I did warn him) . Within weeks the alloys (£900 each) were found to have cracks in them , which the dealer admitted was a "common problem".
How they manage to keep the press from revealing the truth about BMW quality is another story !!!
Spoke to a BMW mechanic not so long ago who told me that he'd brought up the quality issue at a conference only to be told that it was cheaper to pay out on warrantees than to improve said quality!
Also spoke to a guy recently who's on his THIRD engine in a new GS, because the paint kept falling off!
Why isn't there a social media shit-storm? The ignition relay failure on my GS could have killed me...
Well, fellow riders, sorry to hear of these problems. I ride a '97 Blackbird, and it's never had a problem...I do need a new battery though.
Any bloke wishing to post a review should study your videos and learn how high quality reviews are done
Very kind of you Ron!
In my opinion the only place Triumph should appear is the tank, which they do beautifully.
All the rest are like cake decorating - horrible on a bike.
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those mirrors would have to be swapped out, they are just wrong imho.
+Paul Duhig ah I just got to your comment re mirrors!
+Paul Duhig Agreed!
what is the point of giving a bikes 'dry weight'? I don't mean you personally because it is given on most all the mfg's web sites for all their bikes as well as 'wet weight'. I understand the difference of course but can't see why anyone would care or want to know (other than the shipping company) what the dry weight of a bike is. It seems like a meaningless number to any rider. Any insight to offer? Thanks for the video
I find it useful when you get on them at the dealerships so that you can get an idea of how much it's going to weigh when "wet", you know, to consider whether if the seat height and weight is comfortable for you
+Joe Strother Yes I completely agree with you Joe - it's not like you can ride a "dry" bike, so quoting dry weight is a bit odd - I guess it stops there being a perceived marketing disadvantage to manufacturers of machines with big fuel tanks if "wet" has to mean a full tank of fuel as well as oil and coolant...doesn't make a lot of sense. Thanks for watching anyway, all the best - TMF.
thanks guys. wouldn't it be nice if it were traded for some useful information such as marking the center of gravity like on an airplane... wet of course.
+Joe Strother that would actually be much better
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+jmcphee7 Congratulations!
I just deposited on this bike today. However, terrible review. The bike most certainly is flickable.
Thanks for that Pete! ...it's only my opinion, one mans lardy is another mans agile!! Congratulations and enjoy your new bike...all the best - TMF
So tired of black bikes.
commie !