A walk down Cockburn Street | Edinburgh

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2019
  • In this weeks Edinburgh Scotland Vlog we explore Cockburn street. This streets joins the Royal mile and the old town to The new town of Edinburgh. We find cafe's Bistros, Pubs and a weird Owl and Cat. We also show moults of places to eat in Edinburgh.
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Komentáře • 134

  • @annieharmon8564
    @annieharmon8564 Před 4 lety +2

    I love Edinburgh and the people of Scotland!! One can wander and gawk at the architecture for days on end!! And the wee bits and bobs shops, bistros and such are fun to explore always a smiling face to greet ya!!

  • @andreataylor6823
    @andreataylor6823 Před 5 lety +4

    One of my favourite streets in Edinburgh. Love all the independent shops and cafes on Cockburn street.

  • @susancripps6076
    @susancripps6076 Před rokem

    I started watching about 9 weeks before we traveled to Edinburgh this summer. It was a good primer for the trip. Thank you for showing me which places I've have to go back and see.

  • @petenoseworthy2939
    @petenoseworthy2939 Před 2 lety +1

    My wife and myself love your videos using it to plan our trips to Edinborough March 17th of this year 2022 we hope to see you filming an episode that would be great have to apologize I forgot to like the videos but I'm sure I'll run through would like just one day sit down and like them all to help you out thank you for being a great Aid proclaiming our holiday

  • @claudi3020
    @claudi3020 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm German, and I miss my beloved Edinburgh. Three month left til I see it again ❤. Thanks a Lot for your Videos.

  • @davidmitchell7181
    @davidmitchell7181 Před 2 měsíci

    Worked in Waverley Station back in the late 70’s til 1989, the Malt Shovel was my local after finishing work , nice wee street indeed

  • @claudiasalas2349
    @claudiasalas2349 Před 2 lety

    Perfect videos to get to know the place that you have not visited yet

  • @eddiegrogan
    @eddiegrogan Před rokem +1

    As an American planning on visiting and staying on this street. This video is extremely helpful just for the pronunciation of "Cockburn". That could have gone poorly. Cheers for that!

  • @laurifoutz7477
    @laurifoutz7477 Před 5 lety +4

    LOVE all of your videos. Husband and I are planning our first trip to Edinburgh. Very helpful and well done. Thank you!!

  • @mikecrean8849
    @mikecrean8849 Před 3 lety

    Great video man. I was born and raised in Edinburgh but live in Surrey now. Cockburn st famous in the 70s for its jeans and punk shops. Lots of flair jeans and brushed denim jackets. So nostalgic. 🙋‍♂️👍

  • @slydermartin6008
    @slydermartin6008 Před 5 lety +3

    Arrrrrgggggg!!! Happy/Sad. As always I love and appreciate your videos Tony. Just got back to the States on the 3rd after 15 days in Scotland. Happy to be in my own bed......sad that it's not in Edinburgh.
    I WILL be back. I have unfinished business with the Botanical Gardens and there MAY have been a few single malts that I missed ;-].

  • @arejaycee5704
    @arejaycee5704 Před rokem

    Used to love the record shop at the top of the street many great albums were bought there.Ahh the Toddle Inn so miss that place 😢

  • @MagicFerret69
    @MagicFerret69 Před 4 lety +1

    I have lived I. Edinburgh my whole 43 years of my life and you have opened my eyes to places I never knew existed. Thanks so much I would love to meet you

  • @zelmoy
    @zelmoy Před 5 lety +1

    Ill be travelling there in 2 weeks. I cant wait! Thanks for the videos!

  • @toffeepopzzz
    @toffeepopzzz Před 5 lety +1

    Great video! I've been up Cockburn Street a few times, been to the record shop, Eden and Pie in the Sky (great little pin badges and art cards in there). I'll deffo look out for the face of Lord Cockburn and the owl and the pussycat next time and am gutted I didn't visit there in August as I was collecting photos of Oor Wullie and I see there were two I missed on Cockburn Street! ☺

  • @susanpatton1748
    @susanpatton1748 Před 5 lety

    Love the artwork. The boys look great. Another great video. Can’t wait to come back.

  • @jinnjones3801
    @jinnjones3801 Před 5 lety +3

    The artwork turned out great! It suits y'all.

  • @liv1117
    @liv1117 Před 3 lety

    We are actually planning a trip there hopefully in the next 2 years
    And we are planning on staying on cockburn street! Thanx for the video what an awesome tour 🤗

  • @sannybaldy
    @sannybaldy Před 3 lety

    Superb Victorian and Edwardian Scots Baronial Architecture in Cockburn St. love walking on each side and looking above to the other side. Fantastic stonework and detailing. And in the closes and Wynds,

  • @hibee2k11
    @hibee2k11 Před 2 lety

    I used to drink in The Arcade on Cockburn St yrs ago 😊

  • @Zamode68
    @Zamode68 Před 5 lety

    Nicely detailed video of that wee street. Love the gradient of the street. The new artwork/logo is terrific!

  • @richardscott9840
    @richardscott9840 Před 3 lety

    From the Scotts of Buccleuch...My first exposure to your videos and I really enjoyed it. On Cockburn St tour I loved the Scott Brother store at #40 Cockburn..my football jersey number!

  • @blancaamador2705
    @blancaamador2705 Před 5 lety

    🥰 loved the video & the art 👍🏼

  • @andrewcockburn9193
    @andrewcockburn9193 Před 3 lety

    Love this great video thank you.

  • @mariacandidaalbuquerque9661

    I xe been there! This video is a must for those that don t know hoe to get tthe Royal Mile . I miss the Old Town. Its beauty never ends.

  • @mapesdhs597
    @mapesdhs597 Před 5 lety +7

    There are still side streets off that road I've yet to explore. :D I remember in the late 80s Cockburn St. was the place to be as a student, low-price t-shirt shops and suchlike. It's gone upmarket since then but still a fascinating area.

    • @lilyofthevalley5586
      @lilyofthevalley5586 Před 5 lety +1

      Yup, I would buy t shirts there too.

    • @thatswhatisaidCA
      @thatswhatisaidCA Před 4 lety +1

      I was there in Sept 2019 and there is still a "cheap" t-shirt shop inside of that arcade, if you're looking.

  • @jenniferkupay9701
    @jenniferkupay9701 Před 5 lety

    Love the new art work! Great walk down Cockburn Street. Thank you!

  • @M0m0plata
    @M0m0plata Před 5 lety

    Thank you soooooo much for this video. I will be in Edinburgh at the end of the month. This really helped me get an idea of where everything is.

  • @sandybutton243
    @sandybutton243 Před 5 lety +1

    Yeah!! First!! Happy Weekend!!

  • @wendyluvsbooks1580
    @wendyluvsbooks1580 Před 5 lety

    I enjoyed walking down that street when I was over there loved seeing it again

  • @MargieFord
    @MargieFord Před 4 lety

    Really enjoyed this video, haven’t been to Cockburn Street 😍

  • @tucacipriani1659
    @tucacipriani1659 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi Tony, I've been there! I loved the art...and with the dogs! Thank you, now I know who is that man, Mr. Cockburn. 🤩

  • @claired3764
    @claired3764 Před 5 lety

    Fab artwork, still haven’t been to the Haggis Box!! I love the ghost writing on old buildings, i always look for it

  • @summersonic1846
    @summersonic1846 Před 5 lety

    Love your videos Tony ! I'll be there mid-late November. Can't wait to explore this city.

  • @josh0g
    @josh0g Před 4 měsíci

    Tony, I'd love for you to cover recommendations of souvenirs that aren't just cheap bits and bobs. Like, if I wanted to get something proper that I could only get in Scotland that wasn't just a cheap tourist thing. Proper local makers and such.

  • @anthonyhind1308
    @anthonyhind1308 Před 5 lety

    That brought back a lot of memories.I love Cockburn Street.Spent manys a night in the Malt Shovel.Haven't been to Edinburgh since 2007-I must remedy that.

  • @Redfox-1984
    @Redfox-1984 Před rokem

    We are staying at the backpackers hostel in July. Thanks for the tour

    • @arejaycee5704
      @arejaycee5704 Před rokem

      Amazing city So much to see So much history Enjoy your stay. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @slydermartin6008
    @slydermartin6008 Před 3 lety

    From the future into the past......love Cockburn (hee hee haa haa) BUT...you skip right past the Southern Cross Cafe with nary a glance. Lovely food. Lovely atmosphere...a bit "crunchy" but lovely and really good food.

  • @sawillie1680
    @sawillie1680 Před 5 lety

    Very nice artwork! Everyone looks so great!

  • @jcfh19981
    @jcfh19981 Před 5 lety +1

    Using Cockburn Street was a big relief after finishing up at the Christmas Market one night last November. My knees really appreciated the slope instead of the stairs as I made my way back to Hamilton’s Mews. I took the closes down however. Much quicker. I’ll check out more of the shops this next trip. The Military Tattoo gift shop was lovely and many items in there support the Military Tattoo and charities.

  • @norcaljennifer
    @norcaljennifer Před 5 lety +2

    I am bringing my 2 teenage sons to Edinburgh in 2 weeks. Surely Cockburn will illicit a chuckle. :)

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety

      👍

    • @deanward3445
      @deanward3445 Před 5 lety +1

      Lucky!! I’ll be there in 3 weeks. Took our youngest there 2 years ago. He loved it.

    • @norcaljennifer
      @norcaljennifer Před 5 lety

      @@deanward3445 lucky you - you will be there for Fringe. I was not savvy about it when I booked our flights.

    • @deanward3445
      @deanward3445 Před 5 lety

      Sorry, I don’t know what the Fringe is.

    • @norcaljennifer
      @norcaljennifer Před 5 lety

      @@deanward3445 if you will be in Edinburgh in 3 weeks, I recommend you watch The Broonfords videos about the Fringe Festival. Cheers!

  • @Likesyurp
    @Likesyurp Před 3 lety

    Shared on Facebook

  • @karenwhite7023
    @karenwhite7023 Před 5 lety

    Love the history

  • @dorothyclarke5683
    @dorothyclarke5683 Před 5 lety

    I’ve just ordered from natural skincare and I am going to the shop when we visit my family soon , so thanks for confirming where it is 👍🏼 I’ve never been on that street before

  • @kevinroberts7365
    @kevinroberts7365 Před 5 lety +1

    Gah! I should've watched this video this morning! I was right there this afternoon and chose to go up Advocate's Close. And, I didn't get any food, but I can attest that Devil's Advocate does have some tasty drinks! Oh, and loving the new artwork.

  • @mariannejones7172
    @mariannejones7172 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for your walks all over the city. Just returned last week from Edinburgh, and the potato restaurant was wonderful.

  • @alanco608
    @alanco608 Před 4 lety

    A fabulous video Tony... Walked down Cockburn Street a couple of times and loved the quaint little shops. Thank you for pointing out the owl and the pussy cat... Will be great to point that out next time I'm back in Edinburgh, like so many other things from previous videos. Great stuff once again.

  • @donnacoburn9655
    @donnacoburn9655 Před 3 lety

    What a wonderful video! This is the first one of yours that I’ve watched, and have just subscribed. I’ve been doing a good bit of research on my husband’s surname - Coburn - and found this to be so helpful 😊

  • @deborahwhibley5215
    @deborahwhibley5215 Před 3 lety

    Love your voice x

  • @hayoway2000
    @hayoway2000 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for your interesting video's! Me and my wife planed a short holiday to Edinburgh ( for the first time ) at the end of november this year and we just know were to go because of your video's. Mabey we'll see you walking around at the christmas market or somewhere else, we would definitely come over to say hello!! keep up the good work! Greetz, your fans from Holland

  • @davidscott2225
    @davidscott2225 Před 5 lety

    Great vids . Im edinburgh born and bread and dont know anything about my home town. Thanks for making me look and sound inteligent to my english girlfriend. Will be back there in august to show her more of edinburgh

  • @roderickscott7429
    @roderickscott7429 Před 3 lety

    shared onto my FB.

  • @actionseed
    @actionseed Před 5 lety +1

    I love the new graphic! Your videos have been super helpful. We’re definitely going to the haggis box and a few other spots you’ve recommended. Maybe my wife, Jorja, and I will see you around the streets later this month on our honeymoon. We’re staying near the royal mile the 21st to 26rh. Thanks again.

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety

      Congratulations. Hope you guys have a great honeymoon. If you see us about,come up and say hi.

  • @MrsSunshine27
    @MrsSunshine27 Před 5 lety

    This just made me miss Edinburgh even more. Def need to come back soon. Greetings from Germany.

  • @wayneblanchard97
    @wayneblanchard97 Před 4 lety

    When I worked on Cockburn St. in the mid-to-late 70s, it was all clothing shops...jeans and casual, funky clothes. The place at the top left of lower Fleshmarket Close was a health food store (and later Avalanche Records); there was an antique jewellery place or two (still one there). And there was Cockburn St. Market near the bottom...clothes, jewellery, incense...stuff! The was also Hot Licks, the record shop located across from where I worked, Silver Star, a jeans shop now occupied by Viva Mexico. And yes, the Toddle In, with Lois, Irene and Robin at the counter - I hated to see them go. And the Malt Shovel is still there.
    I really appreciated this 'tour'. Whenever I'm on Cockburn Street I'm more intent on getting to where I'm going than actually taking the time to absorb what's actually happening on the street. Next time I'll slow down and have a look. The owl and pussycat, Lord Coburn, and the Mary Queen's Close entrance are all new to me, so thank you for that.

  • @jays2035
    @jays2035 Před 5 lety

    we love Cockburn st. We always rent a flat located at hunter sq ( the blue door ). My favorite antique shop is on that street!

  • @matildamartin2811
    @matildamartin2811 Před 3 lety

    Hello, I am 87 years old and when I was first married I worked in a restaurant named Ritchies at the bottom of Cockburn street opposite the rear of the council house. I used to serve Sean Connery with spaghetti bolognese. He was a friend of the owners son. It was before his James Bond days. He had been in a television show at the time as a boxer.

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 3 lety

      Oh that’s amazing. Are you still in Edinburgh?

    • @matildamartin2811
      @matildamartin2811 Před 3 lety

      No I live in a village outside Rugby I left Edinburgh 54 years ago but have gone back home many times

    • @matildamartin2811
      @matildamartin2811 Před 3 lety

      I was born in Blackfriars Street

  • @teresaharris-travelbybooks5564

    Cockburn is an interesting street; not least because it's so incredibly steep.

  • @alexanderkleinschmidt9944

    Just wanted to say hi and thank you. I am currently preparing a trip for my dad and me to Edinburgh and your videos are so helpful and unique... Just became a patron as well. Keep up the fantastic work (but maybe invest some of that patreon money in better equipment :D)

  • @ghostlyMostly1
    @ghostlyMostly1 Před 5 lety

    So, I'm juvenile and giggled when I read the title. Thanks for the vlog tho :)

  • @ryanchimilar2691
    @ryanchimilar2691 Před 5 lety

    We were there on July 1st. Beautiful ❤️ I guess we were that close to actually meeting you 👍

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety +1

      Maybe next time you are in town you will catch me.

    • @ryanchimilar2691
      @ryanchimilar2691 Před 5 lety

      @@ClanBroonford we met Andy at the Haggis Box. The Haggis was amazing. We tried to find Davey, and wanted to give him a pound but couldn't find him. We were blown away by your lovely historical city and because of you we were able to know what to look for and knew what we wanted to experience. Thank you. All the best😀
      Ryan and Coral

  • @jmcfarling1
    @jmcfarling1 Před 5 lety +1

    On our recent visit to Edinburgh we met the owners of Viva Mexico. Great food and authentic Mexican. So good. Thank you for the nice comments. I forwarded them on.

  • @clarashoe9504
    @clarashoe9504 Před 5 lety +2

    In America, we call shops/ restaurants that are not national chains ," mom and pop shops/restaurants."
    -Clara from Florida

  • @nataliemay415
    @nataliemay415 Před 3 lety

    It still boggles me that they didn't know Mary Kings Close was there.

  • @jbmett1361
    @jbmett1361 Před 5 lety

    I've been to the Loch Fyne Whiskies shop in Inveraray. Had a marvelous hour discussing and sampling beautiful whiskies from all over Scotland, with real whisky experts.
    Can we have a revisit to the Loch Fyne Whiskies shop on Cockburn Street? Interview the proprietors and highlight the different styles of single malts, talk about the distilling process and give some examples of quality and affordable as well as some of the mad unaffordable. I'm sure a whisky oriented vid would go down very well with some members of your audience. The shop would likely be up for it, free advertising for 30 minutes of their time and all that.
    Cheers, great channel by the way Embra's a lovely place and you showcase it well.

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety +1

      Hopefully will do a whisky video with the help of some kind company.

  • @dreamcaster1969
    @dreamcaster1969 Před 5 lety +1

    Yum yum yum Haggis box

  • @thatswhatisaidCA
    @thatswhatisaidCA Před 5 lety +1

    SO GOOD! Thank you. Coming mid Sept and "studying up" with your videos. The artwork is great! Perhaps you (or someone in comments?) could recommend less expensive places to go, as we have a terrible exchange rate... (Thanks!)

    • @nats_tor_444
      @nats_tor_444 Před 5 lety

      That's What "i" Said We are coming again in mid September as well! Edinburgh has a lot of great food in different price ranges. Are you looking for restaurants in a particular area? A few recommendations- We loved Piemaker on South Bridge! Delicious and so inexpensive! If you like pulled pork, Oink has several locations, and really reasonable. If you like soup, try Union of Genius! Also recommend Social Bite; love all their efforts in behalf of the homeless! We’ve been to Edinburgh before, but I’ve been doing a lot of research for this trip as well. Let me know if you’re looking for anything in specific, and I can tell you what I’ve found. Have a fabulous trip! Cheers!

  • @jennifercrouse
    @jennifercrouse Před 5 lety

    Love your videos! Coming for a visit in October and your videos are so friendly and interesting, makes me feel really informed but excited to see for myself! I plan on doing a lot of shopping while I'm there, can the shops ship things to my home or will I need to find a postal service for things that won't fit in my suitcase?

  • @thatswhatisaidCA
    @thatswhatisaidCA Před 4 lety

    Psst! We (heart) Scotland is read "We Love Scotland". The heart means Love. ;) Thanks for the vid! Fond memories from last Sept... I miss it and want to get back! And Tony, how did you get over carrying a camera around and talking to it in public? I guess it's a little easier now, cuz it's not so uncommon now, but i still can't manage to do it. (Hi from Vancouver Canada)

  • @hedgewitchvlogs9796
    @hedgewitchvlogs9796 Před 3 lety

    Sad whiplash trash shut down lol. Would ya have filmed it lol? I loved it for the body piercing 👌

  • @pollywog7318
    @pollywog7318 Před 5 lety

    I LOVE the artwork! You all look great and it looks like you (love the dogs especially!) When can we get t-shirts with this design or bumper stickers? I love Edinburgh, I can't wait till I can go back.

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety

      Don't know if we will be doing t-shirts anytime soon. Didn't think we were a big enough channel to have merch.

  • @teresaharris-travelbybooks5564

    Mabe you can answer my question. On Victoria St. there is a second level balcony that has tables and I've seen people sitting out there. Heading down Victoria; it's on the right. Do you know what establishment that is?

  • @victoriaprouty1841
    @victoriaprouty1841 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Tony, was wondering how we would go to the Grass Mkt/Edmonton close without so many stairs.

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety

      Other side of the royal mole. But you can head down Victoria street just off George 4th bridge, which is just off the royal mile.

    • @victoriaprouty1841
      @victoriaprouty1841 Před 5 lety

      Thank you, I'm getting to old for stairs like them! LOL My daughter wants me to go up Arthur's seat. Hope there is a easy way. Saw your video on that.
      @@ClanBroonford

  • @suzanne8284
    @suzanne8284 Před 5 lety

    Hi Tony! Love these OTRM (Off The Royal Mile) streets. I find myself wondering what all those upper windows above the shops represent - are they flats?

  • @pennycooperider6234
    @pennycooperider6234 Před 5 lety

    I was glad to see video of Cockburn street- my hotel The Inn Place is listed on that street but didn’t see it in the video. Help!

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety

      Hi, its there don't worry. If you got to @12:08 on the video you will see a green/grey door with red writing in the middle. You can't really read the writing, but that is the entrance to it.

  • @thatscottishcouple1006

    That 'pussy cat' is absolutely terrifying ha 😂
    Great video, we always love walking down Cockburn street, it's a great place to relax with a coffee

  • @anne-marieroy9086
    @anne-marieroy9086 Před 5 lety

    This brings back memories. We stayed at the Motel10 on the corner of Market and Cockburn so we went up that street many times. Thank you!

  • @ericbrighteyes9180
    @ericbrighteyes9180 Před 8 měsíci

    Do you know what the name is on top of one of the spires looks like Young Hotel or something?

  • @paulina4331
    @paulina4331 Před 2 lety

    What about a walk on Portobello streets and beach? :)

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 2 lety

      Done it. czcams.com/video/3Np-vm77O6I/video.html

  • @steviekirkpatrick4608
    @steviekirkpatrick4608 Před 3 lety

    Nice tour of Cockburn street.If you look at the Cockburn steps down the bottom, next to Mary Kings close exit the steps actually covered another building and in that building the encyclopedia Brittanica was written, well sterted anyway. Just sayin.

  • @Cheezsoup
    @Cheezsoup Před 4 lety

    I worked in the Scotsman's lounge mid 80s and it was NOT a nice wee pub then it was a bit of a 'Gangstas paradise'.
    I only lasted six months or so. I couldn't put up with the constant fear of agro from the punters

  • @rebeccasiegal7824
    @rebeccasiegal7824 Před 5 lety

    Tony, how about some advice on cell phones while in Scotland? Coming there this Fall and spending time in Edinburgh and Inverness. My US carrier costs a fortune to use internationally. Suggestions on maybe prepaid phones that can make intl calls and have internet capabilities for things like Uber?

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety

      Oh i have no idea. I might have to check.

    • @rebeccasiegal7824
      @rebeccasiegal7824 Před 5 lety

      Would be so appreciative of any help with that. It's actually turning out to be the most complicated part of the trip.

  • @trevalondon5580
    @trevalondon5580 Před 5 lety

    My daughter wants to start a CZcams channel too......do you mind me asking what kind of camera you use?

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety

      We use a canon sx730 hs. I am sure there is a newer version of this, as I have had it for over a year.

    • @trevalondon5580
      @trevalondon5580 Před 5 lety

      @@ClanBroonford Thanks so much. I am glad I found your channel and I really appreciate being able to see Scotland in depth. CZcams is the better than any TV program I have watched!!

  • @suneelgaur5246
    @suneelgaur5246 Před 4 lety

    Scotsman's Lounge used to be a real dive....lacking character and frequented by seasoned alchies...maybe it's changed and gone up-market like the rest of the street🤔

  • @technodiscolovers9050
    @technodiscolovers9050 Před 5 lety +3

    Up until a few years ago I always thought Cockburn street was pronounced the way it is spelt 😂 I’m quite disappointed that it’s not

  • @teresaharris-travelbybooks5564

    I'd rather climb the steps than walk back up the street.

  • @deanward3445
    @deanward3445 Před 5 lety

    Do you wear a pedometer. Would be interesting to see how many miles you walk when you do these videos. And what brand of shoes do you wear? I want to invest in that brand. LOL.

  • @tracco
    @tracco Před 5 lety +1

    Pie in the Sky: None of their stuff is locally made. It's mostly rebranded Chinese crap.
    Eden: Barely anything there is locally made.
    Cookie and Mysa: Not handmade or local.
    Look elsewhere for genuine local and handmade goods.

    • @ClanBroonford
      @ClanBroonford  Před 5 lety +2

      Thanks for the info. I did not know that. Appreciate you clarifying this.