Conduit Bending: Rolling Offset, How to Measure and Layout
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2020
- In This Video I will show you how to Measure for the rolling Offset. One of the most used offsets is the rolling offset therefore it's imperative that you learn how to accurately measure and layout the rolling offset.
TABLE OF CONTENT
Chapter 1 - How to take the Measurement
1:20
Chapter 2 - Using the Calculator to solve the formula
6:14
Chapter 3 - Alternate Method (No Calculator)
10:25
Chapter 4 - Example on the Computer Screen
14:40
Chapter 5 - The Layout on Conduit
16:26
Chapter 6 - Bending the Conduit
18:06
Chapter 7 - The Layout on The Screen
21:31
Chapter 8 - Helpful tip on using lasers for conduit bending
25:15
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Once again you save the day thanks bro
Thats wassup. I want pics bro. Dont care how small the job is.
He is but teachers don’t get paid lots depends on contract but I love CZcams this is helpful
Was talking to my supervisor today and he ask me did I know how to bend a rolling offset. I ask him whats the difference between a rolling offset and a regular offset he told me to go to CZcams. Thanks again. This video really help me understand.
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my guy, you should be teaching classes on this and getting paid, you are a very good teacher!!!
he needs to join the local union where he is and get paid a legitimate wage for his skill and knowledge! He said he was going to check into it a couple of weeks ago, so I hope he did. He deserves to get paid more than what open shops are paying electricians!
100% I agree . The professor . Man start a school
Dude, my rolling offsets are ALWAYS off. Now I know why. I was just adding the vertical and horizontal without using the formula. Thanks man. Gonna use this to roll a set of pipes off of a wall onto a rack today. I wish I could post a pic when I’m done. Excited to get to work!
Yea its just like a regular offset but you need to find the diagonal distance first. I gave you 2 ways one is with math and the other is in case you don't have a scientific calculator. Thanks for watching please sub and check out my new videos.
You do a great job of explaining what I like to call the process. Keep it up!
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You never cease to amaze me Mel !!
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Thanks my friend.
Excellent video Bro. You’re very clear and descriptive with your details. This joint helped prepare me for an upcoming test, so thanks! Keep up the good work fam
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Video was exactly what I needed thanks a lot Holmes
Thanks again for anorher home run my bro Mel, I've been trying to match my apprenticeship notes up and this really helped me remembering how very important it is to get it right. Thanks again I and Family 😊
I don't know how i missed your comment but anyway you're very welcome my brother.
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Thanks for your videos, probably the best conduit explanations you can find on the internet.
Wow, thanks!
Best video explaining on using the formula been working with rigid conduit just gotta add shrinkage now 👌🏽👌🏽
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Thank you 🙏 very much Holmz Law 👨 man! You making me sharp brother!
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Great video, gotta do one tomorrow so this helps a lot, very thorough
What's up yolk'z! Lol great video man. You were recommended to me by a co-worker and he indeed was right. You cleared up a lot for me. Now to watch the rest of your bending videos.
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I couldn’t get it until I saw your video… sir you are a legend
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Keep up the good work I enjoy the video they helping me out a lot
I did this by accident on a job haha luckily I didn’t have to land it in a fitting. This helped out a lot though. I feel the more I watch your videos it will help because they are giving me a lot of useful information that I am definitely going to use while on the job
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Keep doing what you're doing 👌 thanks for tricks of the trade some people in trade like to keep secrets
Don't I know it... That's what I'm here for. Trust me i get enough hate messages telling me I shouldn't be doing what I'm doing. Thanks for watching and most of all for the comment.
Damn I just had to use a rolling offset to clear some ducting today and I literally had almost these exact measurements. Mine was 7” up and 12” over. Pretty crazy. Great video.
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Excellent demonstration!
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Great video my man! Helps a lot
Thanks for watching and most important for the comment I for one really appreciate it. Please share the video with your co-workers and Friends thanks again.
Very nice thanks a lot brother ... been doing for a while always forget this shit mann ... love the way u break it down
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thank you very much. It took a lot studying on my part. Im also on podcasts now too... To see which podcasts Im on go to this site... Anchor.fm/holmz-law thanks.
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Very helpful! The textbook I had made the bend seem like the pipe was bent a special way.
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Great vid i get now you explained it well
Im glad you think so
Hey brother thanks for the videos they are a great help. You think you can the a video on rolling parallel offsets. Thank you for taking the time to teach other electricians out there.
I can but it's the same as the parallel offsets video that i have posted already. rolling offset is the same as regular offset when it comes to making them parallel. Check out this link: czcams.com/video/nV4eL6WSbd4/video.html
I’m doing a rack today with 8 or 9 pipes off a wall onto a rack. I was gonna ask the same thing. BTW, I have an App called QuickBend that is actually dead on but I try to stay off of my phone at work like he said. But, that app has really helped working solo. Only been in commercial a few years
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Buen video amigo, good video brother
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I think your manual example would be extremely accurate, to within a 1/16th of an inch, if a person used a square to mark out the rise and horizontal marks, but I think it is a great method in a pinch if a person just tried to carry a speed square on them or a framing square or anything to get a good 90 degree angle for their marks!
Yes your right if you want to be accurate a speed square works best. Again I should've mentioned that. Some times all the words don't come out as I'm thinking it. When I re-record the video I will have to mention that it's a great point.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending it's not easy making videos. Maybe make notes for yourself and make a short list of items to mention for the video you are doing so you remember to touch on each one. It's easy to pass over things as you get to doing examples.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending you can always just edit it and put it in as a title scroll in that part
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Thank you brother...
Awesome video man. You explain very well on all you lessons. I had a question bro. Is there a way to get this “roll” effect on a 3 point saddle? Like if your pipe is running Parallel to another pipe and you need to get across it but continue parallel to it just on the opposite side.
You are the second person to ask me that. Now you got me interested. I dont know of any way you can make a saddle roll. I mean after bending a saddle if you want you can turn the saddle any which way you want to make it look like its rolling but to any electrician it would look like someone was just to lazy to straighten out the pipe. Honestly what you explain i cant seem to picture it. Is there some way you could draw it out or kind of find a way to explain it to me better with a drawing. I would love to answer this for you but i need to understand what you're asking. You can drop the question again in my Instagram@Holmzlaw
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First of all I want to thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I have asked several people this before and they just look at me like I’m crazy, but I know my professor once spoke to me about not only how to roll saddles but also that you can make rounded offsets that look like snakes curving. I will see what I can do to give you a visual
Great video bro
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21:15 I knew I heard a bird in the background that's awesome
I just tried it with a speed square and it is within a 1/16 of the calculator and quick bend app
Thank you
Welcome. And thanks for watching.
I did the paper method forever, even just sticking a dummy pipe out past wherever I was trying roll into - box or whatever, or catch some strut ... But for real, doing the trig is perfect every time. Just do the math, it's worth not having to tweek pipe.
I agree totally.
I have a quick bend app I bought off Apple store, and it gives me the same diagonal measurement from the rise and horizontal measurement, but the space in between for a 45 degree bend is different by a 1/4". It gives me 19 7/8" instead of 20 1/8" and it gives me the shrink of 5 and 7/16" your example is the only one that gives a good formula for a rolling offset. I think the difference is because you use 1.414 instead of 1.4 for the multiplier! If you take 14.25 (1.4) it comes out as 19.95"
Yes quite a few people have told me the same thing
Quick bend app isn't that bad though it's the only one I actually vouch for and I did a couple videos on it as well.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending I like your formula though. Because being on your phone to access it is sort of frowned on!
@@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 yes your right. That's how I try to teach all of my helpers/apprentices
@@TheArtOfConduitBending I hope you have been looking into union work. I would like to see you paid better for you skill and knowledge! You could lead a lot of electricians to better pay and benefits for themselves and their families!
I have a question 🙋♂️ when you do parallel rolling offset do you add the shrink or not?
its more to it than just that. I will be coming out with a video soon. I apologize but I can't explain it over message. parallel rolling offsets is a lot different than just regular parallel offsets. sorry buddy but i'm working on the video. stay tuned
Great video 5:40
Thanks I really appreciate it.
Pathagorean theory, also here is an easy way , find up and over measurement. Then find a perfect 90 degree edge somewhere, make your marks, over and up,measure diagonal that's your roll. Then decide your degree of bends, use your multipler.
yes that's a great way to do it too. i get into that towards the end of the video too.
Can you show how to do multiple rolling offset?
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So you measured 7 1/4 up but then on your pipe you measured 6. Where did you get the 6? Are you using the deduct for the 3/4 ?
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Is there a rofht way to measure for the box. I know you said your measurement is for bottom of the knockout. Is ce ter correct or is it all the same
sorry i missed this comment. but i'm not understanding what you are asking. can you write the comment again.
My boss tells me to hurry up I don't have time for math and calculators
yeah well he's an idiot. Electrical is all Math.
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You did good on the calculating travel and the angle for the offset, but you did not explain what the rolling angle is, how did you calculate that?
Maybe you didn't understand. Anyhow, I'll explain it briefly here. The rolling angle is what you want it to be for example 30, 45, 60 degrees. What you are trying to figure out is the diagonal measurement which is what I show you how to find. The method you are thinking of is totally different and you would have to use trigonometry to solve the problem. I have a playlist full of video's using this method called Advanced conduit bending. However I'm still haven't released the rolling offset video for this method. It will be out soon though. Thanks for the comment.
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So I guess you could say “Yosh had a birds eye view” on the whole thing?!? 😂
Yea that's right
He was supervising.
How do you make a rolling offset like his but with a one and a half inch box offset on the end of the pipe. I had the hardest time getting them to be in a straight plane. Unreal the frustration I had with something I thought would take no more than ten minutes.
I'll have to make a video on that. Believe me you are not the only one that has a hard time with this.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending I would appreciate that. Thanks brotha.
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Bro what brand laser do you use?
Bosch , Milwaukee, whatever I have at the moment
you can just measure diagonal with your tape as well, its just like measuring the rise of an obstacle.
Yes that is true but sometimes you need accuracy and also there are times where you just cant measure diagonal because there are no surfaces to take your measurements. But yes you can just measure diagonal but it isnt the best way especially when precision is needed.
Yes i know. Thank you
I’d like to be an apprentice for this dude, shit I’d kick u 10% of my paychecks
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Nice video, but you didn't explain why you made mark A at 6 inches
So that's another video which I've actually recorded already. I should've mentioned it. In this video Mark A can be placed any where you decide. Only when you have to do a pre-determined offset is when mark A matters. Either way you can watch my pre-determined offset video for more on the topic.
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And they said we'd never use the pythagorean theorem lol
We’re do I send to bro . Doo ok you have a what’s up
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why cant you just measure on an angle? from the white line to the knock out? So the t BOTTOM of the pipe, to the SAME location on that knock out. . Why cant that work? so lets say, the 5 oclock location of the pipe, to the 5 oclock position of the knock out? why cant that work?
Yes that will work some what. I do it when I don't have to be precise and bring square doesn't matter., I also do it when I'm trying to save time.
Wait, why for the roll, or horizontal measurement you went center to edge ?? Why not edge to edge or center to center?? Isn’t that a little off?? Just asking bro
Maybe it doesn’t matter for 3/4”?? But I’m doing 4” conduit, can I still pull my marks the same way??
you need to give me a time stamp on the part of the video you are talking about
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you asked if I could send you some pictures of the work
Yeah definitely of course no problem. Yes of course I did ask for pics. I just forgot
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Why not just measure c2 to begin with???
because in most cases it wont be accurate
You know you can make the offset depth what you need and then just roll the pipe. This takes way too long and I would not want my guys working on that math. I'd want them working on electrical work and bending conduit. Take the depth or as you said rise in this case make your offset according to that with whatever angles you want on it or need for the job most of the time you just use 30ﾟ angles and then you simply stuff it in yourAnd roll the whole offset over till it reaches that Box.
I understand what you are saying. But this is the problem that we are having. The math is a part of the job. Doesn't take long. It might feel long because you're micro-managing your workers. It doesn't take long to do a bit of math. And the outcome is rewarding two fold. 1). You get to practice the formula
2). You gain confidence everytime you install your conduit and it fits perfectly.
This is just my opinion, of course.
It took 27 minutes to explain how to do a rolling offset?
I respect what you do but it should not take this long to explain it.
Sorry brother. Ill try better next time.
To answer you a little better. I'm not into the quick video's. Most of my video's are long and detailed. I cater to the apprentices that need the details. Again I do apologize if you are some one with lots more experience then i'm sure you can find other channels that will give you a quick fix. But with this channel I'm am trying to set myself apart from the others. You can't teach pipe bending in 10 minutes. You can only give someone the formulas in 10 minutes. And if someone is looking for formulas well i'm sure you can find that on the internet with out watching video's. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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I meant no disrespect.
I just don't have enough hours in the day with my busy schedule.
None taken my brother 🙏🙏 ill keep what you said in mind. Trust me i know what you mean. Not enough hours in a day. Full time job, work weekends and doing videos. Trust me i know what you mean.
You write in graffiti font.
I guess so.
so hard to understand what you're saying. For future videos please make the audio clearer man.
I apologize. I am working on redo all the videos with better quality. Again I do apologize.
You need to be more straight to the point 👉..... I know how to do it, it's a good thing because you would confuse the shit out of someone just learning 😮😮😮
Thanks for the advice.