WHY I QUIT PALEO KETOGENIC DIET & WENT PLANT-BASED - Dr. Lim
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- Plant Based News recently sat down with Dr. Lim, Director at the McDougall Health & Medical Centre. The interview was conducted at the Physician's Committee's 2017 Nutrition in Medicine conference. We also interviewed Dr Barnard and Dr Greger at the event about health myths, weight loss, veganism and plant-based nutrition. Stay tuned.
Anthony Lim, MD, JD, Medical Director: Anthony Lim, MD, JDAs Medical Director, Dr. Lim oversees the medical care of participants in the McDougall Program. Dr. Lim is a board-certified family physician, and enjoys working closely with patients to help them adopt healthier habits that can significantly improve their overall health. He is a graduate of Stanford University with a degree in Human Biology, and subsequently obtained his law degree from Harvard Law School and his medical degree from Boston University. He completed his residency training at Santa Rosa Family Medicine Residency and has a busy career combining patient care, teaching, and community advocacy focused on whole food, plant-based nutrition. He has a special interest in the role of diet and lifestyle medicine in both preventing and treating chronic illnesses such as obesity, diabetes, cancer, autoimmune conditions, and heart disease. Dr. Lim lives in Santa Rosa, CA and is happily married to his college sweetheart, Jean. Together they have a son and daughter who bring them endless joy and laughter. Outside interests of his include hiking, biking, playing tennis, cooking healthy meals and learning guitar.
Get in touch with Dr. Lim via the McDougall Health Centre: www.drmcdougall.com/
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For a doctor to admit he was wrong and aiming for more knowledge, is a gift to society 🥰 This guy will help save our world.
Professor Tim Noakes admitted he was wrong in advocating a high carb diet. Type 2 diabetes numbers are crippling our health care systems. This is clearly a debate which will most likely not go away soon! Who is right?... time will tell but at theis moment sugar - regardless of where it comes from and under what label - appears to be causing havoc on health.
I’m on the keto diet. Lost 200 pounds. I was 170 initially. I’m off all my medication and wasn’t even on any when I started. I have transcended my human form and have become Jesus.
True! I am in awe!
@@klowther247 - Based off my experience, I would say that keto is not good long term. It could be used as a short-term way to lose weight fast, but it's unsustainable long-term. I can't believe anyone who says they've been keto for super long and still feel great, as I followed the diet to the T. Made sure I had the right supplements, did the things that were supposed to "fix issues" if I started feeling off (like having salt/magnesium if I couldn't sleep - yeah, that didn't work). I ate all organic/grass finished high quality animal foods as well. I just had nowhere near the energy as I do now as mostly plant based - when I had taken an extended break from gyming, then went back, me on vegan on the first/worst day could do what I couldn't do at my best on keto.
Profressor Tim Noakes can say what he says, but there are no large long term studies on keto. There are for a vegan/vegetarian diets though (study on adventists) and they have the longest lives and lowest mortality rates. Sugar IS really bad for you, btw. But with vegan diets or any diet, you shouldn't be eating a lot of sugar (most sugar isn't vegan anyway, since it's processed with bone char).
Dr Lim: I'm plant based too just like you!
I've been plant based for over a year now. And at 55 I feel better and am healthier than I was when I was in my 20's
Do did I when I changed from plant based to Paleo. Change creates health. I am not for or against either, just for finding what is best for oneself and that too changes with age, location, having children, etc. But to know which diet is best for a particular person, we need at least 30 years. One year is still a reaction to change. Clean diet or organic real foods makes one feel good right there regardless of plant based or not.
Are you athletic? What are your testosterone and growth hormone levels in plant based diet?
I have been on a keto diet, lost 55 lbs, went from pre- diabetic to normal A1c. I think more clear, more energy.
@@rebeccaw68 , Once you're done losing weight you wont need keto anymore as it's not good for longevity.
@@ccoodd26 Why do you say that?
Dam! That’s a big bowl of salad in the background.
😂😂😂
If only those were artichokes!
Holy crap I didn’t even notice it was a bowl of salad until I read your comment- thought it was the bottom of a tree.
It isnt salat, its succulent - or whatever it's called. Its some kind of plant 🤣🤣
It's quite a "succulent" looking lunch 😼
The CZcams algorithm really wants me to go vegan.
Go vegan
😅
CZcams is not biased & knows all. Always do what CZcams wants you to do & think the way it wants you to think. We are not supposed to think, research or find the truth for ourselves. It’s so much easier to rely on CZcams to think for us.
did u went vegan? still?
You got this!
It takes a lot to admit that you were wrong. Mad respect to this doctor!
Except he wasn't..until he went plant based.
Sam Motiram I was also impressed with T Collin Campbell, who was led by his own research, to realize he needed to change directions and embrace, and promote the plant based diet.💚
when you're wrong, admitting you're wrong.
donlapcam I agree
Sam Motiram Dr your twisting the truth about ketogenic diet buddy.
It’s low carb 20-50 grams a day. Moderate healthy organic protein of 3-6 Ounce per meal with high amount of salad and veggies equaling 4700mg of potassium and 400mg of magnesium. Healthy Fats recommended are avocado and coconut mostly. butter in moderation.
Dr Berg has a lot of success with diabetes autoimmune blood pressure and cholesterol & weight loss
I’m vegan whole plant based, and a Naturopathic Dr myself, these Drs don’t understand that different people require different diets and like my wife vegan doesn’t help her at all. She needs eggs and Buffalo dairy feta cheese and yogurt.
Metabolic typing is individual biochemistry.
I test my patients in the clinic and some thrive on organic meat fish eggs and others thrive on cheese
I don’t believe anyone Dr has all the answers.
This dr stating on ketogenic diet you can eat fried chicken and as much protein as you like is misinforming the public.
High protein intake will spike insulin as much as high carb diet. Fat is the only thing that doesn’t spike insulin
Get your facts right Dr or get off CZcams
I absolutely love how he went from zero nutritional training to spreading a plant based diet to all of the world for the rest of his life
Yes…poor scholarship.
His opinion should be considered irrelevant since he doesn’t have any nutritional training, or am I missing something ?
And doing so after binge watching Netflix
@@benoitconley1126 He's an MD and now has more nutritional knowledge than most MD's due to his study of science of nutrition with confirmation via personal experience. Most MD's have little to no training in nutrition. Are you listening to them? Or are you listening to low carb proponents who make a mint off their books while harming the long term health of their followers.
I met him recently and am so grateful he is out spreading the good information along with all the other doctors he mentioned. I am a nurse and I quit working for the VA because it didn’t make sense to me that my patients would come in with bags of medications and just seemed fatter and sicker and more inflamed. Nutrition in the most basic sense was rarely discussed. Unbelievable that doctors or nurses are not taught about the healing properties of nutrition. That’s big pharma.
Your grandma will know more about nutrition than most MD’s.
There is no scientific consensus yet on "nutrition". Doctors are scientists, but most of what people "know" is BS, including your grandma
thats not true, grandams only know what they were taught down by their family which as is evident is not proper nutrition UNLESS she studied hehe. i love my Grandma but Jesus Christ if i ate what she gave me i wouldn't be here today lol.
@Delta Fox shit man, stay away from grandams! They are pure evil 😂. No I kid hehe, meant grandma*
I’m thinking of my mom, who is my son’s grandmother. Nope. The woman loved white food and fat. Is an 8 Oz block of cheddar and a half bottle of brandy before bed “nutrition?”
Now, my grandkids will be able to say that.
I have to disagree. My grandma cooked & baked with a lot of fat from meat & butter & both my grandma & grandpa died from heart disease.
started vegan 2 weeks ago 235 pounds already lost 8 pounds. Feel so good with alot of energy will be my lifestyle from now on. Depression is gone.
Did you eat freely of vegan foods, or restrict your calories ? Please clarify for us the ignorant.
YES! going on 5 months with a fully compliant whole foods plant based diet. My Cholesterol went from 225 to 120! I have lost 65 Lbs.. Very little exercise just walking a few times a week.
Ray J congrats!
Ray J beautiful!!!!!! :D
I was eating the SAD standard american diet meat refined carbohydrates alcohol, in short I abused my body for many years. I can now see the answer clearly, believe me I tried many other tactics Adkins, heavy exercise but the whole food plant based diet is the only one based on overwhelming scientific evidence. Exercise is great but you have to feed the body the correct fuel. I am certain I will hit my perfect weight in the next several months somewhere around 185 Lbs. I also watched Forks over Knives... I look at cows differently now:)
Ray J Congratulations!! That's amazing!
Ray J congratulations! That makes me so exited to hear! Can't wait to see the change in my numbers, six months out. In only a week, my overall cholesterol has already dropped 20 points and my triglycerides have dropped 60 points...results like this make me want to keep going even more!
You are amazing. Brave enough to confess that you were wrong professionally. Awesome! Not everyone can do that.
He's still wrong. Wonder if he made his next video yet.
He tells us he was converted by a couple of videos. And he’s doing it at a time with global leaders have decided to take away and control our food supply to a large degree. No meat for you! This can and will cause many people to sicken and die after an unhealthy life. All the people who suffer from high oxalate load, and the people who cannot feel healthy and free from arthritis and other inflammatory diseases if they eat anything but meat… They will be toast, back into full on symptoms and living no quality of life at all. I agree, we need more doctors to wake up to the fact that they have not been educated How to heal people with diet. But he has only taken one baby step. He has yet to figure out that there are many, many more factors involved outside of what he was trained in.
He has yet to figure out that a high cholesterol number is not a disease. It may, or it may not be, a sign of another process in the body that wants corrected. And sometimes the only way you can fix the underlying problem is worth animal protein. Animal fats.
@@bitrudder3792 If we are going to use his patient case study as an example I would look at the fact that a plant based diet allowed an overweight man to get to a normal weight, get off of high blood pressure medication, and stop needing to use an asthma inhaler as a much more important point than cholesterol since that's what you want to focus on.
I get your argument on "he basically said he was converted by a couple of videos". I agree, that does not sound like convincing evidence and comes across more as "I can be easily swayed". However at the same time we shouldn't just cherry pick around the discussion such as only focusing on whether or not cholesterol is bad while ignoring larger points like getting off of an inhaler or getting to a healthy blood pressure.
I also do not agree that "sometimes the only way you can fix the underlying problem is worth animal protein. Animal fats". You may have an argument as to perhaps saturated fats are not as bad as we make them out to be. You are definitely incorrect though if you think some type of magic happens within an animal. Saturated fats are harder to get in a plant-based diet but your body does not give a damn if that saturated fat came from a coconut or from a cow. Now of course if your body has reactions to other compounds in coconuts that's a different story.
At the same time too though, do you understand just how absolutely massive the plant kingdom is? While not every plant is consumable by humans there is still a plethora that is. A person may have an issue with peanuts or tree nuts or wheat or some other type of plant(s) but that is where allergy tests are important and consulting with a doctor who DOES have a specialization in nutrition: a dietician. They can better work through creating a meal plan that targets all the nutrients and recommend supplements where things would be harder (e.g. B12, omega-3s like DHA/EPA, etc).
don't worry @@johnnypenso9574you are one of those masses who eventually die terribly due to animal fat induced heart & organ complications and mostly your own stubborn stupidity and it's really sad that there's no hell for people like you to go to
I've been plant based user for 40 years, it's the best for me..everyone is different, but 💪 works... I'm 60 now!🤗👍💕🍄🍄🥦🥒🥬🌽🫑🍒🥜🧅
... and full of shit!
You are an MD and have humility! I'm impressed with you. Thanks for the video.
When your overweight and eating the SAD menu, both keto and vegan diets will improve your health. Vegan does not have a monopoly on improving your health coming off the SAD diet.
True however I found that a plant based diet was easier for me to maintain than a keto diet I felt better and that I could make permanent changes to my life not just a temporary one keto seemed very temporary I still watch carbs and don’t load them however not as restricting and it’s working
And that is why I tell people that you can't believe everything a doctor or vet tells you. Just because someone is a doctor does not mean they know truth or are properly educated. Thank you for your testimony.
That is so true!
I have been saying that for years..ans nutritionist are the worst..they do almost 0 research...and claim they know more that doctors who have 30+ years of study and research that they have done personally
Including This doctor.. right?
@@theoneandonly668 Vegans don't think that far ahead
@@user-cj6te2oj4m they are the kings of contradictions and hypocrisy
Great to see a new doctor giving fresh advice on the movement!
Mad respect to this doc. Sharing this everywhere
Maaaaaaaaaaaad
coza10 Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
he sounds disingenuous and manipulative...
Romania I'd like to see you compete in a megathon against vegan Rich Roll
what, like the meat and dairy industries?
Lovely man, so eloquent, articulate and humble. I believe he has a shining future in this war on the devastating way most people are "eating".
keep teaching Dr Lim. we need an army of doctors like you around the world.
Awesome. Great job. Keep going! Thank you for your thoughts and dedication.
I've had experience with several diets: macrobiotic, lacto vegetarian, paleo. All were beneficial. What they have in common is reliance on whole, unprocessed foods and avoidance of sugar. To me that's key.
g0me3 I totally agree. Balance is the key. Mainly plants with a smattering of meat I think is a more sensible way staying away from white carbs and the poison, sugar.
@@Noor-jw2tn I agree! This seems to be the answer I've come too as well. A lot of veggies, fruits for blood circulation and sugar, and a bit of meat here and there for protein.
i really liked the talk that shows the healthy limits of eating meat and dairy. IIRC we can keep animal produce within 5% of total calories and we'll be ok. personally, i don't want the slew of bad chemistry that comes with animal produce so i went WFPB (i was already 90% there).
When you objectively study the paleo diet in how it is practiced by most well known advocates, it is essentially a Mediterranean diet minus the grains. The dairy issue is a point of debate with some paleo types being more accepting of it.
Few paleoists are trying to re-create an actual paleolithic diet but to mimic it's nutritional profile and health qualities. Some paleoists tend back toward a broader traditional foods approached, as informed by Weston A. Price and Sally Fallon Morrell. But others prefer to keep it more strict.
Still, what they all share is a strong plant-based approach. I've never met a group of people who eat more vegetables than paleoists. I know many vegetarians and vegans who don't come close to eating so many vegetables, often instead preferring a grain-based diet along with rice and legumes.
Ben Steele so can I get your option cause I’ve been researching paleo diet. is it basically a diet of a healthy mix of fruit vegetable, meat like poultry and fish along with seed and grain and diary depending on your preference?
It is not about vegan. It is about plant-base diet.
Two different things
Exactly
Please explain the difference. They both mean the same thing, especially since you did not mention whole food.
Vegan can be used to 'blanket' if you will a better diet than eating meat. I myself do a more 'transition' vegan diet, better than the ASD, but not the best you can do. WFPB is the best. You can sit on the couch and eat oreos all day long and say you're vegan. Vegan-yes. Healthy-absolutely not. WFPB is straight up is what is actually is: whole grains, the produce isle- pretty much stay in that area- legumes. Look up T. Colin Campbell... he can better explain it. He cant stand people calling WFPB vegan, because he knows the difference. Hope this helps.
@@bryonrice8616 WFPB is vegan. The issue is people think vegan means healthy.
Vegan has always meant the same thing, which is a plant based diet. It's that simple. What they should be using is the term whole food vegan. I don't get why people are trying to make the term vegan mean anything other than 100% plant based diet.
If that were the case, then you would never hear of people leaving a plant based lifestyle for animal based and getting healthier but alas, there are a shit ton. All this video does is confirm that not all diets are for everybody. It comes down to eating clean food that is optimal for each individual. So many people go full carnivore and get super frickin healthy because of it. You will never be able to argue that away. It just is what it is so it will be what it will be.
Went from plant-based to low-carb. This did wonders to me. Do whatever feels good for your health
Right. Keto along with IF works for me. My body is definitely hunter-gather
Isn't it annoying that the medical community can't seem to have a definitive answer. I'm Keto which I converted from 20+ years of vegetarianism from February this year. They come up with research papers debunking one or the other. I don't have any health issues (🤞) just big spinal and muscle degradation. Maybe one day the researchers will come together and give us a firm decision. Cheers Rosemary Perth Western Australia (71 yrs)
Rosemary Butcher the only definitive answer so far that all diets and science can agree on is intermittent fasting
I’m sorry but to be in 2014 and say that plant based diet is revolutionary and think that paleo is the old way makes him seem very hard to believe.
@@johnhenson4054 and Paleo believes man ate oh so much meat which is a complete joke and not even remotely possible.
What shocked me most is the fact that he’s 40. Please tell me I’m not the only one who is shocked bout this 😲😲😲😲😲😲
You are.
He looks much more younger!! 😳😳
Looks about 40 to me.
Excellent video and testimony! I'm sharing this everywhere! :D
Incredible, we need more doctors like him!
My dr went wfpb after he had a heart attack back in 2007. He tells patients to make the transition to improve their overall health. Living proof
What an amazing and humble speaker!
This dude went to both Stanford and Harvard, has both a medical and law degree, and he's a vegan? Bruh he's ticking all the boxes of a two decades from now Asian parent's dreams lol
Every vegan girl worldwide is messaging him.
Gurpreet Singh Disgusting to talk about woman like that! You have problems.
Going vegan would be a HUGE disappointment for most parents. MOST parents wouldn't want their kids to become malnourished.
Linda, that is perhaps the most ignorant comment imaginable regarding nutrition. @@avashnea
Shepard Bros Films are you?
Dr. Lim, you are an inspiration. I really enjoy your presentations and how you present the science, as well as the powerful personal stories.
LOVE this guy. So glad to have a medical doctor who wants to spread the truth and help his patients to have good health through nutrition.
One of my favorite health inspirations, him and Dr. Mcdougall! What an awesome interview & advice, I’m way more learned and knowledgeable now than ever before and that’s because of help like these guys and this CZcams service. I been looking for a healthy diet for years now and even working at a grocery store I can tell you, there are so many counterfeit foods it is beyond my comprehension! You are almost at a must to make your own food in order to be healthy and no it’s not easy working 40 hours a week, I still struggle with this, but if you want to be healthy you have to work for it!
I am glad to read that you feel you have hit the jack pot with whole food plant based eating and the more you can eat like that and crowd out the rest of the rubbish the better. Dr McDougall is an absolute legend and so is Dr Colin Campbell - do read his book "whole" really interesting read. My top tip for cooking is double if not tripple batch your food when you do cook and freeze portions. Do the same with your lunch. Pick up Limes on you tube and website gives some excellent ideas even for breakfast. I do her breakfast burittos and freeze them. Although be careful with some of her amazing recipes as she does use oil when I personally think she doesn't need to and I am surprised as she is a vegan dietician but I have done lots of her recipes and tweaked them only slightly. Her refried beans are awesome along with her nutella. with her nutella swap out the coconut oil for a bit of plant based milk. I combine her recipe with Plantiful Kikis nutella recipe and to make it as healthy as possible. Good luck. Oh and do consume a good portion of raw fruit and veggies a day whether that be in a smoothie or a salad as the enzymes in uncooked food are highly beneficial when not cooked. Mix and match. You got this!
It good to see more and more MD's are beginning to focus on nutrition as well. Thank you for the inspiration.
Love this. I have just recently made a drastic change to my eating habits and lifestyle, switching to a plant based diet in an effort to control my Multiple Sclerosis symptoms and overall health. Love that resources and videos like this are available for me to watch. Thank you for your channel.
My sis in law has MS. Curious if you've been able to control symptoms.
Please seek a LYME LITERATE MEDICAL DOCTOR. Most MS are from Borrelia which is from a tick, deer, bear and dog tick all can carry a bacteria called Borrelia. Once I was treated I was 76 percent better had it for 40 some years. Eliminating dairy, meats, sugar does help but it does not eliminate the symptoms all the way. If you get symptoms every 21 days that is a sign the you may have it because the spirochetes reproduce every 2 1 days.
This doctor is so balanced yet very convincing in presenting the information. Also, he sounds very genuine.
and still wrong lol. who said you can eat as much steak and butter on keto diet??? we still count calories
Love this! His open mind to a whole new approach and the fact that he actually acknowledges nutrition as a way to treat patients is amazing!
It takes a VERY large person to admit mistake. Gigantic... My pen to you, sir.
Sean Lumly Dr your twisting the truth about ketogenic diet buddy.
It’s low carb 20-50 grams a day. Moderate healthy organic protein of 3-6 Ounce per meal with high amount of salad and veggies equaling 4700mg of potassium and 400mg of magnesium. Healthy Fats recommended are avocado and coconut mostly. butter in moderation.
Dr Berg has a lot of success with diabetes autoimmune blood pressure and cholesterol & weight loss
I’m vegan whole plant based, and a Naturopathic Dr myself, these Drs don’t understand that different people require different diets and like my wife vegan doesn’t help her at all. She needs eggs and Buffalo dairy feta cheese and yogurt.
Metabolic typing is individual biochemistry.
I test my patients in the clinic and some thrive on organic meat fish eggs and others thrive on cheese
I don’t believe anyone Dr has all the answers.
This dr stating on ketogenic diet you can eat fried chicken and as much protein as you like is misinforming the public.
High protein intake will spike insulin as much as high carb diet. Fat is the only thing that doesn’t spike insulin
Get your facts right Dr or get off CZcams
Everytime I watch one of these, I'm left realising - the truth and answers are all there - we just need to help spread the message.
spread the false dogma?
does this means that muslims also spread the message when bombing other religions?
@Romania de azi ..how did you make this connection ? You could also say: the American army bombing a third of the world... how does this prejudice sound ?
maverabs i do not agree with america bombing the rest of the world either...
How did i reach the muslim conclusion? Well mualims are not right in what they say. The are using fear and propaganda to recruit retards... Just like veganism does
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU NOT EATING MEAT, what I do give a fuck is you spreading lies about how nutrition diets and the human body works...
please , if you know, tell me, where where and how does the human body digest fiber efficiently and enough of them to sustain our body's needs in calories( all herbivores can do it) tell me that. and I will accept your premise of humans doing bad things when eating animals....
how many times does somebody has to tell a vegan that nobody cares about what they eat?
how many times?
answer... they cannot hear because absence of fat cholesterol vitamins and proteins make you unable to understand logic and science.
you simply cannot understand that nobody cares about your diet and what you eat , can you?
the spreading of lies, taht is what is wrong about veganism..
PETA your beloved vegan group has killed over 90% of all animals they "Rescue", c'mon, get real...
veganism is a cult and a religion, not a science based fact. you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you do not misinform others.
40 years from now he will STILL LOOK LIKE THAT 😍😍
I wonder how old he is here!
@@denisebutkus3901 he mentioned in this video that he is 40 .
40+ years vegetarian. I'm 74 1/2 years old, I feel great !
Dr Lim. One of my favorites. 💖 So glad I transitioned to a whole-food plant-based diet. Worth a billion bucks.
After What The Health was seen by me and then family members, they went totally vegan-even returning a weeks worth of meat for meals and grilling-die hard meat eaters. I went from 24 year vegetarian to total vegan. My few health issues are almost gone. This is true-in three weeks. Can't believe it myself. I always think maybe a few are bluffing but it is for real. My eye disorder and the autoimmune dosorder/disease has disappeared, meds gone -and the other ways it was effecting my body and life-and few other family members, close friends and neighbors getting stronger too...Just quit eggs and dairy for us and added a lot of juicing. It is phenomenal.
Julie Hopson awesome. I went vegan couple of years ago and cleared my chronic acne.
Hopefully you inspire more people around you to consider going vegan. All the best.
Julie Hopson That is wonderful to hear Julie.
i had acne on my back for over 10 years, after i went vegan (whole foods, HCLF) it just disappeared one day i looked in the mirror and realized it was gone about 90% down
Awesome! I hope you continue to share your story. I feel like we should all share our vegan story, & hopefully inspire others.
you were not a vegetarian, you were a SAD dieter
God bless you Dr. Lim! ❤️
He switched from being an enthusiastic Paleo advocate to an enthusiastic Plant Based Food Advocate in just one day?
It would seem that radically changing one's view on something as important as human nutrition should take a little more than 24 hours. Especially if your advising other people. And especially if those people are patients.
It spoke to him, and clearly it works. The studies are there, people are changing their lives. Don't be blind, don't let your ego get in the way of doing what's right for yourself. I will raise my children plant based until they are old enough to choose for themselves, not the other way around. We are all sick! Do you ever wonder why? How is it possible? Why is it the norm for people to be on chronic medications? Our bodies are amazing machines, but if we are feeding them wrong our entire lives things are going to go wrong, and it shows in the modern western way of living. Please watch these documentaries that he is talking about, hopefully they will speak to you as they did for him, me and I'm sure 1000s of others.
@@heidirachaelpieterse5109
It was a rhetorical question.
And you didn't even come close to answering it.
If it was a rhetorical question then surely you weren't expecting an answer?😊 Just trying to make a point? He's been on the diet himself and seen its effectiveness, he's seeing the transformation in his patients lives for himself...I'm not sure what else I can say. There is nothing I can say to convince you if you've already got your mind set on disagreeing. I'm not sure why people are so defensive, if there was any chance that this was helping people (and it is, the proof is there) then I'm not sure why you are so opposed to the idea? Either the idea of such a radical life change is scary to you do you reject it outright, or you work in the dairy/meat/egg/pharmaceutical industry. Those are the only reasons I can think of.perhaps you could enlighten me?
Glad you have seen the light - welcome to the team Doctor. Glad to have you on our team!!
Kevin Byars Dr your twisting the truth about ketogenic diet buddy.
It’s low carb 20-50 grams a day. Moderate healthy organic protein of 3-6 Ounce per meal with high amount of salad and veggies equaling 4700mg of potassium and 400mg of magnesium. Healthy Fats recommended are avocado and coconut mostly. butter in moderation.
Dr Berg has a lot of success with diabetes autoimmune blood pressure and cholesterol & weight loss
I’m vegan whole plant based, and a Naturopathic Dr myself, these Drs don’t understand that different people require different diets and like my wife vegan doesn’t help her at all. She needs eggs and Buffalo dairy feta cheese and yogurt.
Metabolic typing is individual biochemistry.
I test my patients in the clinic and some thrive on organic meat fish eggs and others thrive on cheese
I don’t believe anyone Dr has all the answers.
This dr stating on ketogenic diet you can eat fried chicken and as much protein as you like is misinforming the public.
High protein intake will spike insulin as much as high carb diet. Fat is the only thing that doesn’t spike insulin
Get your facts right Dr or get off CZcams
Yaassss omg Dr.Lim is awesome!!! I'm so happy and thankful I had him as my doctor last year xoxoxox. Much love to him and his family. He is a brilliant guy!! And I cherish those classes/lectures so very much
I find he is a wonderful speaker, ambassador, and emits wisdom and trust.
I find this to be an interesting dichotomy. I have essentially had the same revelation about this exact subject, in a very similar process, back in 2011. I am not a medical professional with his education, training, and knowledge. He is a medical doctor. I appreciate his candidness. What it highlights for me, is the nature of the medical profession as being more of a factory, and less as being about practitioners of healthcare.
I'm glad you found your diet! Thanks for posting and trying to help others!
THIS doctor brings hope for all in the medical field! Thank you for sharing a very inspiring man's story!
Please back what you say with pier reviewed science. A healthy ketogenic diet does not include as much fried chicken and butter as you want! Just like you said in a WFPB diet, you shouldn’t over eat bread and sugar. If you are addicted to carbs, it’s very hard to moderate them, thus fails every diet I’ve ever tried before going keto and getting them out of my system. Now I am in control of my cravings and chose intermittent fasting along with a low(simple) carbs, a moderate amount of grass fed protein and higher healthy fats which keep me satiated and able to fast without crashing or feeling hungry! I’ve kept 60lbs off for over 3 years and all my blood work is perfect. I eat tasty healthy food and never feel the need to cheat and never feel like I’m dieting.
I’m 60yo and post menopausal. I have tried everything. This has worked amazingly well for me.
Wow what a concept! Eating real food, who would have thought?
I am proud to call Dr. Lim "my doctor"! I saw him for a consultation recently and came out with an action plan. I am really motivated. Dr. Lim is so smart and understanding, and he has my HIGHEST recommendation!
flyshacker 🙌 that's awesome.
I'm not on this exact type of diet (I still eat some dairy and eggs), but watching Dr John. McDougall has inspired me to try eating more fresh fruits, something I believed for years was "too much sugar". The result has been that I've finally managed to lose over 10 lbs and am no longer overweight.
Watch "Dairy is Scary" and "What's Wrong with Eggs" by Erin Janus.
Dr's are watching the same documentaries and reading the same articles like we are to get nutrition training. Smh. I'm disturbed to hear this.
I really need a vegan doctor because whenever I say I'm vegan they always ask wether I'm getting enough of some sort of nutrient or just generally get judged .
That’s really frustrating. Imma be a dietitian one day and do my part in making the world better. (I’m only 18 right now and still in high school)
Vegan diets exclude many essential nutrients, its a real concern
@@poopymcgee which nutrients?
@@samgreeneggs8101 cobalamin, lutein, choline, active forms of fat soluble vitamins... the list is endless
@am py 100 calories of broccoli is a mountain of broccoli. Cobalamin is produced in the gut of many animals, most notably cows, where it is passed on to their milk.
You can be a vegan and still be on a ketogenic diet. It's not a high protein diet, that's a common misconception. You still eat a ton of veggies, whether you eat meat or not.
Steve H you tell them.. there is a lot of narrow minded people out there (sad)
I don't think it's possible to be on a vegan ketogenic diet. The point of the diet is to force your body into ketosis mode by not ingesting carbs. There aren't any plant foods with low enough carbs and high enough calories to make a vegan ketogenic diet viable. Maybe avocados, but even them have around 17g of carbs per piece that would potentially prevent you from enter completely into ketosis. If, as vegans, we want the benefits of ketosis, fasting is the only way to go.
Yeah no, I'd rather not just drink olive oil. :p
"I don't think it's possible to be on a vegan ketogenic diet"
Never heard of nuts or avocado?
Anyway I think vegan diets are idiotic. One can not like CAFOs and the slaughters houses without being vegan. Eat insect protein( vegan food of course kills insect en mass anyway, not to mention rodents). Mussel and oyster farms are the most sustainable farms there are. It also provides everything a vegan diet doesn't do very well like iron, zinc, EPA, DHA and b12. Not sure what the problem with sardines is either. Vegans sure must hate whales and dolphins.
Yeah you'd basically be living off of nuts and tofu
Dr. Lim. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Keep up the good work. We need more docs like you who want to break the patterns of their training and go above a beyond of what is expected to help truly heal people. Much respect to you. 🙏🏻
I needed to hear this. A vegan yotuber I've been following and supporting for years just revealed she's no longer plant-based and I'm quite disappointed. She said to feel free to unfollow if she no longer aligns with her followers values. And so I did. I feel sad but in my heart I know I can't continue watching her. Really just wanna air that out.
Because her menstrual cycle stopped etc & hormones were out of whack not consuming animal products
This is really crazy, I already knew this, but when I hear the stories, it's just crazy
If everyone had this man's personality ( more important his ideology on Life in general ) the World would be such a lovely place to reside!
I smell a paradigm shift in "health" 😊😀
Great: an honest doctor who treats a multitude of patients every day, reverses serious diseases consistently and helps the environment regenerate and avoids animal-suffering. Perfect!
He is an active license lawyer and Dr! That is one smart man.
High natural fat low carbohydrate heavy fiber (plants) and low protein completely cured my diabetes in 6 months. I've only exercised lightly but have much more energy without the insulin serge. In fact I went from being a fat guy to riding in the Tour de Cure for diabetes for a 50 mile ride.
You did not reverse your diabetes. All you are doing is controlling the amount of sugar that is in your bloodstream. With type 2, the CAUSE is insulin resistance--NOT too much sugar. The sugar cannot get into your cells (for energy) because you are insulin resistant and instead stays in your bloodstream. You are simply keeping the sugar in your bloodstream low but you are still insulin resistant. Insulin resistance is caused by a high fat diet. So you are still type 2 diabetic. Eventually, as you age, it will catch up with you since you are not curing the base cause of type 2 diabetes--insulin resistance. The only way to do that is to get your fat calories down to about 10% of total calories. The only way to do that is to go whole foods, plant based, no added oil, sugar or salt. What you are doing is kind of like an immune deficient person avoiding most germs. They may not get sick very often, but they are still immune deficient. Don't forget that Dr. Walter Kempner cured type 2 diabetes with a rice, fruit and sugar (0 cholesterol) diet! Loads of sugar but almost no fat. Insulin resistance was eliminated and their cells were able to use the sugar instead of it staying in their bloodstream. Strange diet but he actually CURED type 2 diabetes, didn't just control it. If you are eating high fat, you are still insulin resistant and therefore still type 2 diabetic.
Here is the actual main cause of type 2 diabetes. czcams.com/video/MonwPt4LIN0/video.html Don't forget that Dr. Walter Kempner cured type 2 diabetes by putting his patients on a white rice, sugar and fruit diet at the beginning--very low fat and zero cholesterol--very high sugar and carbs. It also cured hypertension. We are not talking about exceptions, we are talking about the rule. It nearly ALWAYS works. Those few who have another cause have something unusual going on--they are not the rule, they are the exception! Trying to tell people to do what they do is just like telling everyone to smoke heavily because there is an occasional person who makes it to age 100 while heavily smoking. We know that this is the exception, not the rule. The same goes for type 2 diabetes. The RULE is a high fat diet is the cause of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. There are exceptions but we don't treat everyone as though they are an exception. We treat them as the rule. We do 7-day rescues (have done about 7 of them now in our group). We work consistently with people. Getting their fat down to 10% (Blue Zone population studies) works consistently. We EXPECT people to be cured by going plant-based, no added oil, salt or sugar. It happens almost every single time. It is the rule, NOT the exception. And what is with the name calling? That is what my kids did when they were young! When they matured they no longer did that--they learned to treat EVERYONE with respect.
Actually, Diabetes II is both! Eating foods high in Carbs...high glycemic foods ...raises Blood sugar which activates Insulin levels. I turned my diabetes around too. A1C of 8.2 to 5's....by Ketone/low carb high fat diet. I am a believer. The only ting that has worked for me. Sugar is the HUGE culprit along with processed horrid foods; the foods that turn into sugar as well; all grains, sugar; process foods. And no, Plant based is not the way for me even though I do add Low Glycemic foods; lots of greens, and small amounts of plant based; cruciferous veggies' broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower..and I am an RN who has studied this for the last 10 years.
Msdiane Whitedove not only sugar. High protein act similar to high carb, and all the studies that vegan doctors ground on against keto involved high protein food. It's no surprise that insulin kept high
I was diagnosed pre-diabetic and after 4 mths of almost WFPB diet, I had another blood test. I'm no longer pre-diabetic! I also lost 4 inches around my waist; not sure about loss in terms of weight as I'm not sure what my initial weight was, but I weighed 128 lbs at the doctor's office (prob around 12 lbs loss). No exercise or sports during those 4 mths. I was so confused about the controversy surrounding the low carb high fat vs the low fat high carb and was worried I needed to do Keto vegan, which I find super restrictive! Now I know I can enjoy bread, pasta and potatoes :)
This makes me feel better as a physician. I’ve only been 18 months in the whole food plant-based. Adkins/keto had me for 20 years.
Do you "feel" better on a plant based diet?
damn, it had me for 2 years 🥲
Lovely, humble guy with a passion to help. Great interview.
In 2019, I went on a low carb regiment, inspired by videos from What I've Learned. I was pounding down the eggs, the cheese, and all the fatty cuts of meat, you name it, and I was on it. I don't think adopting a low carb style of eating did me much good. I may have even suffered slightly. I'm pretty sure I net gained a few pounds of belly fat over the year, although my weight has never been an issue. I think my cognition was negatively impacted also, if only slightly.
I got inspired to try a plant based diet out strictly for environmental reasons in 2020, expecting to feel like garbage, constantly be hungry, have less energy, and things like that. I can say that I absolutely do not miss the low carb way of eating whatsoever, and I am fully content adopting my whole food, plant based, high carb, low fat (circa 65C/20F/15P) diet. I feel better in every way, and I can feel slightly sick after eating a lot of peanut butter, coconut oil, or too much of any fat in general.
I'm not looking back, and I will stick to this way of eating for life. It's not only better for the environment, but it's better for health, and that's what the real science says. I just wish I knew about all this earlier! I actually have MORE energy, LESS hunger, and I genuinely don't miss any of the junk I used to eat, because plant foods are delicious when you eat them all the time!
regimen*
There actually won't be any issues if the low carb / keto or other diet macro guidelines had been followed. I had lost weight on a mid / low carb diet.
If you gained weight u didn’t cut your carbs low enough
If I were you, I would substantially cut the consumption of foods high in fats. It is no coincidence that you feel sick after eating them. Fats should account for no more than 10 per cent of daily calorie intake. Also, oils are no good, in any amounts. Try to avoid them.
Cheers.
absolutely fabulous! great video :D
I went almost vegan for awhiled.. still ate small amounts of fish and chicken only in the evening (no cheese no gluten or little gluten, but did eat sugar and have a treat once and awhile) i lost fucking 20 pounds in 2 weeks.... its all inflammation of the shit we eat. I started eating bad again and now im up 30 pounds so im going back to a vegan whole food diet, i cant stand to eat animals much longer everytime i do the guilt tremendous.
inflammation is the new buzzword.........is it all lower calories in the end that helps?
What an inspiring story! Keep up the great work! Thank you for what you do!!!! 😎😎😎
I love the clarity of his mind. 40 years in the usa, first time someone is so sincere, not afraid of telling the truth. Bravo! If people follow you, we are not going to have overweights ,and big companies like weight watchers will hate you!😂😂😂😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
How about eating moderately? A little bit of everything, just avoid crap, a processed and refined foods, and stay active, don't drink, don't smoke, sleep earlier and wake up earlier.
I have heard people have amazing health results on vegan, keto and paleo. The common thing among them all is avoid just what you say and picking high quality, nutrient-dense food.
That is what I miss..it is either Keto or Plant based diet. I eat a mix and i lost 5,6kilo this year alone ( in total about 19 kilo)
those are some insane succulents
Samuel Lockshin omg I was thinking the exact same thing 😂 we are too funny!
I thought it was lettuce at first.
Lol!
:)
Wonder if they’re real.
My gallbladder burst! No more keto . High fat no meat . Now I eat a plant based diet and I feel so good.
Admitting you were wrong is something only great people do! Well done, Dr. Lim!
Both of the guys in Fat Sick and nearly dead put the weight back on and couldn’t sustain the weight loss. Watch all those documentaries which is someone’s opinion in the moment and you’ll get hooked. Documentaries are meant to be convincing. I reversed my fatty liver, High cholesterol, and reduced my inflammation level using low carb/Keto. It’s not a one size fits all it’s what works best for the individual.
Exactly. I was going to post a similar comment but you said it first and said it well. I’ve seen all of those documentaries and more. Clean vegetarianism took my health down in less than six months. Naturally occurring plant toxins are real and no joke. Salicylates, oxalates, phytates, lectins, etc.
@Kristin Ro when you say took your health down WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? i've always been in great shape and ate plenty of veggies and grains back in 2014 I started eating eggs and cheese for breakfast to supposedly raise my HDL boy did that backfire on me my total cholesterol went up to 235 and my LDL to 129 I dropped all the dairy and most land meat except bison occasionally one thing I noticed is that after incorporating bison my HDL went high as its ever been it's 55 my highest was 52 my total is under 200 now the only meat I eat every day is a can of sardines in water along with a whole foods diet just ilke you said it's clearly not a one size fits all as you can see by my blend of meat along with whole foods and plant based i'm 42 years old 5'9" 145 and not on any medication for chronic conditions.
Humans are not meant to eat grains. Science has proved low carb diet benefits. Speaking about vegan / meat debate is another issue but first is to minimise carbs.
@@jeffwatson151 You have to be in ketosis though if you choose to eat high fat. If you're not in ketosis and you're eating high fat, that's pretty bad for your health..
I’ve been inspired to eat a plant based diet, but my husband was successful to reversing is type II diabetes switching to a paleo diet in about 30 days. He’s does eat some grains now but not nearly as much as before.
Excellent! Thank you Dr. Lim!
The same results are achieved in keto and paleo diets vs. plant based diets. The key isn't the diet, it's getting rid of processed foods and eating whole foods. Do that and you'll improve dramatically. Some people have metabolic issues and will do better on keto, some on paleo, some plant based etc. Find what works for you.
Love this! I just want to add that when I was my thinnest I included dried fruit and nuts everyday. I would take it out with me to have as a snack whenever I got hungry. So I support eating them!
I am entering my third year low carb / keto. But it was within weeks of starting this that I got off all the Type 2 Diabetes drugs and high blood pressure drugs prescribed by my doctor. I had been on high blood pressure medicine for more than 5 years. My method of eating i whole food: meat, vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, and Aged cheese. All of my health issues are reversed, healed, totally controlled, whatever you want to call it. Meat has been wrongly vilified for half a century. It is not the issue. The issue is sugar, processed carbs, factory foods, junk food, manufactured seed oils. I eat none of those.
I totally agree with you and I don't think he's doing justice in this video by explaining it like how you explained it. I get my food all natural pasture raised meat from a farm and my fruits and vegetables are completely organic. Thank you for clarifying the difference.
Are you guys listening to what he is saying really?
@@TheKEprince Yes I understand what he is saying, I just prefer my lifestyle that's all. If people want to be plant based that's fine, it's not for me
Read the China study.
Bingo.
Wow, thanks for this video!
It takes great courage and humility to admit one was wrong.
Very exciting times. I immediately went to WFPB after watching What the Health. I try to encourage others to watch the documentary.
Forks Over Knives is a much better film.
www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/what-the-health/
I totally get this. Plant-based worked so much better than me than Keto in so many ways. I’m not saying Keto is wrong, as everyone is different, but it worked for me. I have autoimmune disease and finally feel healthier and more energetic. I love that this doctor is always trying to learn and better his practice.
So happy to see this comment
Wow same here. Plant based changed my life and energy levels
Just goes to show doctors aren't immune to the next big food craze.
Doctors don’t get training on nutrition
Dr Lim is very inspiring and just awesome human being!
On the Paleo diet, you eat a lot of Paleo bars, just like the ones our paleo ancestors collected from the forest floors.
OmegaMale hahahahahahahaha touché!
paleo is shit they tell stupid crosfit clients to workout in a garage ith almsot no equipment for 120 a month
No you don't. If we take paleo is eating bars, than plant base do eat vegan bars. The comparison is of whole foods and best is to respect and let each person find what is best for them. I have seen people's lives saved by plant base diet, and I have seem lives saved by paleo... and I was both for long periods (I am old). We are best of being tolerant and eating whole organic foods of whatever kind is best for us. He says he will never change... that's because he is young. With time we learn to never say never.
I have been Paleo for 2 years and I have never had one of those kinds of bars. 🙄. The closest thing I might have once or twice a month as a quick snack at work is a Lara bar.
Fair play to him for admitting that he adviced a deadly diet to his patients but fantastic that he realised plant based is the way to go.
His level of ignorance and arrogance is still deadly. He described a ketogenic diet as "eat as much butter, steak and fried chicken as you want". This is wrong. Why would anyone trust a doctor who cannot even understand something as simple as a ketogenic diet?
Why do you think it is a fad?
Simply not true. Man is not meant to eat only plants...fact. It is a personal choice as long as you supplement. This doctor admitted he knew nothing about nutrition and I already know Dr. Barnard is a crazy person and things he says are not correct or based in real science.
AMEN DR. LIM! KEEP IT UP DOC, WERE PROUD OF YOU!
Great vid. Thx for your honesty. Many of us have had to do our own research. I know more than my doctor about eating healthily. I was in a wound healing process - once i changed my diet my wound began to heal.
He looks good for 40!
He looks good period
Rory Woodvine Asian
He looks 40. That is what people who are not fat look like at 40.
gwynedd1 haha so well put
Imagine! Looking good at 40!!
Me too... messed with getting 'into ketosis' for almost 2 year's. I did lose weight, but there have been some unfavorable side effect's. I also think that the weight loss was actually just calorie restriction induced by the 'intermittent fasting' that's always paired with the keto diet info. I still IF however it's all plant based now, and I feel great. I'm also no added sugar, no added oil's, no dairy....No more cheese was the only hard part. No oil takes some new recipe thinking. Do have a ton of fruits, with my delicious veggies, and I'm still loosing weight towards my goal, and I feel great!
It's really refreshing to hear a physician speak about the benefits of a plant based diet. I work with physicians daily and they and clueless about true nutrition. I'm glad to see that you have found the truth as you put it. I've been a plant based eater for 5-6 years now, however, I eat most of my food in it's raw from. Doing this has taken me to another level of detoxification and healing. Just passing along some truth as you say.
Why is it that when I watch and listen to vegan and other plant based advocates, and study their faces, that the word 'malnutrion' generally comes to mind?
The science behind a ketogenic diet has a specific and measurable goal - to switch the body’s fuel source from short-term carbs to more long-term fat stores. Even complex carbs are short-term in comparison to fat.
Once someone has been gone Keto for a good amount of time they can and usually do ‘carb up’ by adding a wider range of whole foods (like fruit) and other nutrient dense carbohydrates.
The extremely low-carb phase is mainly used in the beginning, in order to train the body to look to fat for fuel instead of carbs. They do not seek to eliminate them all or permanently, but rather steer dieters to better sources (vegetables for example).
There is not a one size fits all diet. All of these diets have one thing in common, if done correctly...they all cut out high processed foods. You can read/listen to all of these doctor/experts on any one of these diets, and you'll be convinced that it is the "right diet.
Totally agree. People are DIFFERENT. Have to figure out what is beneficial for you individual body system.
Not true. Talk to a doctor who has worked with patients for many decades. Dr. E works with many sick patients. He has found only one diet to work to prevent and reverse disease--full plant-based, no added oil, salt or sugar With all other diets, his patients die. No better testimonial than seeing if patients live or die.
Thank you, Msdiane. THRIVE is such a good word! SOME people thrive and excel on a vegetarian or vegan diet. I do NOT. I feel very sick on a plan like that. HOWEVER... when I have whole, plant foods, add MODERATE protein (NOT high! ) and high fats, my brain finally works. BUT that is just me! I feel like it's irresponsible and downright mean of ppl to assume their one idea or plan works for every body. "Forks Over Knives" touted VERY selective research...forgot entire people systems! Bizarre. I'm thrilled vegetarian works for some friends, and agree that adding vegetables as my only carbs works for me. BUT, my brain needs some protein and FAT! yes!
Critical thinking folks! Critical thinking! I continue to be amazed at how little critical thinking goes on in these discussions. For instance, Dr. Lim. The comments I have seen about him show that some believe he is a simple family physician who ate one way and changed his mind and decided to eat a different way. Few appear to have done research on him BEFORE making statements. If they had they would have found he is the Medical Director of the McDougall Program. He works all day long, every day, with thousands of people, helping them reverse chronic disease and achieve good health. He sees the results every day. He knows what he is talking about. In my group in our 7-day rescue programs, we see universal results. Everyone has improvement--not some. And lets look at Forks Over Knives--touting a very selective research claim. Now if I had seen Forks Over Knives for the first time I would see who Dr. Esselstyn is first. I would quickly find out he is 83 and has been working with thousands and thousands of patients for many decades. I would find out he has a 99.6% success rate. I would look for the study referred to in Forks Over Knives. I would notice it started in 1985 and the study was published in 1995. That was quite a LONG time ago. I would go to a medical library and see that since then there have been thousands of studies done! Not a single study ever negated his claims. I would find out why Dr. Esselstyn (who was first trying to help breast cancer women avoid breast cancer--he is a general surgeon) kept changing diets and tweaking them until he found what worked. I would find that he eventually stumbled upon The China Study (the Blue Zone population studies were later added). He started with that information and continued tweaking his diet until he achieved his 99.6% success rate. When your success rate is that high, working with thousands of patients of ALL kinds, you know you have found the correct diet! I would also look to see how widespread his program is. For instance my girlfriend's husband had a heart attack. Once he was partially recovered they sent him to rehab (actually they sent her as well). It was Dr. Esselstyn's program. I have another friend whose husband recently had a very serious heart issue. They live in the Chicago area. Again--they were sent to rehab--the Dr. Esselstyn program. He does seminars around the world (he is very trim, healthy and active for 83) and doctors everywhere are using his program. Someone who joined our nutrition group had a stroke and type 2 diabetes--severely restricted blood flow in one leg--they almost had to amputate his food. He was given Dr. Esselstyn's book to read. It was ignored until they said amputation was their only option. Came across the book and called Dr. Esselstyn and joined his program. 10 years later he is off all meds, reversed all his diseases, never had to amputate, has full function of that leg now. Forks Over Knives did NOT tout very selective research. Decades later tons more research has been done, physicians all over the world are using his program. There has not been a single incidence of it not working in regards to chronic disease. Please do some research BEFORE replying to a video.
Cheryl Rice no, high processed foods and animal products are bad for everyone.
This was a great video. Thank you
This is amazing. Good to hear. I only have one question, did he find that patient he counceled wrongly and put things right? Just curious. I am not entirely wholefood Plant based yet but getting there.... It just can't happen soon enough but still struggling.