not really ,no adc cant get 5s out of combat while they have to keep pushing lane and evade being poked by enemies skills @@ btw varus is a hyper carry in mid and late game so lethal tempo still better( he can use Q to active it 1.5s before really get in to combat)
This new keystone will not be use often due to some keystones that overlaps it like lethal tempo. I guess they will make so the cd does not need to be out of combat.
In my opinion *Grasp* is still the best rune on Gnar. Getting your permanent hp, bonus damage and free sustain in lane is just to effective. Not to mention, he's range, so you can abuse that quite easy.
lethal tempo takes something like 2 second to proc, this rune is actually the opposite, so it's should be the better option for jungle twitch, adc twitch want to sit back and farm anyway so probably pta or lt since fleet fotwork is DEAD
LolClass Agreed, but I feel like you are also giving up a lot by taking a domination keystone on an adc. Because you probably have to take precision secondary for attack speed, which means you give up gathering storm and either coup de grace, triumph, or over shield because alacrity is a must. I guess it really depends how strong it actually is during lane. Guess we will find out.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying. The main reason why we included Twitch was because we felt like we should include an ADC of some sort in this vidoe (even if it's not entirely practical in the long run). This video isn't meant to be a full guide, just an intro to the rune. Our use on HoB on the PBE with Twitch was decent enough to warrant it but you're right, it may not be the most reliable. We'll include both rune pages on runeforge.gg
I think this rune would be gr8 on Rek sai. She already goes domination so the switch in keystone would not matter. As for the effectivness of the rune on her, She would get her 3 q of super fast , meaning She could get her Rage bar full super quick , só that She can use her true damage e super quick as well. She'll be super Bursty And probably one of the best duelers in the early game
It's always funny seeing some Bronze guy in the CZcams section giving a rundown of what they think is the best or what have you. This rune wouldn't help Rek'sai at all.
Read her new abilities, ever since her rework her E doesnt do true damage at all. If shes at full rage her E deals double damage. "Furious Bite now does flat damage in addition to scaling off of Rek’Sai’s bonus attack damage. Fury no longer adds to the damage of Furious Bite. That being said, Furious Bite will do double-damage if Rek’Sai is at full fury"
Everyone is thinking of Tahm kench but think of the potential for Aatrox. Build Guinsoo and like a Bork u got some serious burst with his w. The amount of sustain in lane too that he will get I think will be huge
not really, you want the attackspeed once you are at full stacks not before that, generally you want to stack your rageblade and then go for fights not stack it up in the fight
As a kled main who tried it, it fucking sucks. It sounds good indeed but the missed damage from precision keystones is very noticeable. And in a trade you'll get your 4 autos off anyway. Early the keystone feels insignificant and as a laner, 5 seconds of out of combat is more than you'd think
HoB is extremely negligible when mounted in comparison to the DPS of electrocute and conqueror in mid, jg, and top and honestly shouldn't be opted for. Taking bone plating + HoB and going all in at low HP unmounted and getting mount back in 2 seconds with Titanic is pretty hilarious though and feels extremely good. However, it drops off really quickly and becomes even more useless. Tilts the fuck out of the enemy though.
So they added a new gameplay mechanic where you can equip to a hero that allows you to have a free Echo Sabre from Dota from start to finish? That's nice.
I understand what it does but autoattackers NEED the attack speed from the Precision tree. If they go domination first they WILL need to go precision second. That is not really optimal for most AD Dps champions. I can see a few exceptions like Xin and others who gain benefits if they land their autos fast but still. On an ADC going Domination means a lot of wasted runes. Currently almost all AD Carries go Precison + Sorcery.
Alonso de Hojeda Yep, but that's the thing: it's only optimal for certain ad dps champs depending on your strategy, which is the whole point of runes. I can also see some champs like Teemo or Diana using them.
Code: Zwei this better than Electrocute because your get damage form three AA but you need some small CC or some thing to help you keep AA to get this full Active
He doesnt need this keystone cuz he already has an aa reset and relys more on phase rush to stick on to people. This seems like an odd rune for very few champs in the game.
A wild potato appeared Sorry I meant jungle jax. With hail of blades you can finish them quick after stunning them. I dont think you'll ever activate conqueror when ganking
Champs who REALLY NEED to get off their 3 hit passives....I could really only think of Xin....All that aside, its a Tahm kench rune..goodbye glacial augment.
If you try full lethality assassin vayne and how kindred is played now its alot better to pick but its like predator now its only good on like 3 diffrent champions
in that case every champion r strong lmao :v kindred,vayne,..(most of adc) r seem as DPS not assasin so no need for a keystone to brust damage and especially for oly first 3 atk (need 5s out of combat too -_-) so it 's completely the worst keystone for adc. Moreover, most champ which main dmg deal from basic atk like jax,Yi can use it from beginning cause they r junglers and need to brust dmg as much as possible but in late game,conqueror or lethal tempo still take place
Jhin exists man, plus 24 ad at 1 min into the game, and now it last for 3 seconds and the cooldown is 8 s econds in and out of battle, pretty strong for him.
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I'm happy kindred finally has a keystone they synergies more with than press the attack
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Work perfectly on xinzhao,will make him maintain s+ jungler for this patch
Can you make a video that compares lethal tempo and hail of blades?
Just asking when will this update will come to the garena cuz I've been waiting for 3 weeks
Varus is pretty decent with it as well you can easily get 3 stacks on people pretty fast early on which is very strong
not really ,no adc cant get 5s out of combat while they have to keep pushing lane and evade being poked by enemies skills @@ btw varus is a hyper carry in mid and late game so lethal tempo still better( he can use Q to active it 1.5s before really get in to combat)
This new keystone will not be use often due to some keystones that overlaps it like lethal tempo. I guess they will make so the cd does not need to be out of combat.
They forgot tahm Kench
Since Tahm Kench main purpose as support not focus on attack or q, so Guardian is better choice for him
Gamber63 Top lane tahm can use this keystone even tho I prefer grasp
Mauto Zlief This keystone is less preferable for top Tahm Kench, got Grasp is better for him
If you dont think its good then u have never ever played on hit tahm kench...
Alex Nawrath I know, I play that before, but I'm more prefer play as tanky bruiser
Can yasuo take the keystone? Is he good with it? I don't really know
In my opinion *Grasp* is still the best rune on Gnar.
Getting your permanent hp, bonus damage and free sustain in lane is just to effective.
Not to mention, he's range, so you can abuse that quite easy.
BIUEPiXEL but summon aery or fleet footwork still better
Aren't u dovahs editor?
Not his editor, his artist, doing all the photoshop stuff, in the new guide he released I made the Intro, Outro and transitions as well.
BIUEPiXEL You are doing a very good job :D. Just under us did u crack Photoshop cc?
First of all, thank you!
they didn't even show the real reason it would be good on kindred
jesus this editing is good
is this work with diana???
i use this with mord and shen and it's pretty good
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Tahm is so broken with this
It works pretty well with Quinn
Lethal tempo sounds 10x better on Twitch than this keystone. I would still probably go PTA over either of them due to the fleet nerf.
Lethal Tempo is definitely a better scaling rune without a doubt.
lethal tempo takes something like 2 second to proc, this rune is actually the opposite, so it's should be the better option for jungle twitch, adc twitch want to sit back and farm anyway so probably pta or lt since fleet fotwork is DEAD
LolClass Agreed, but I feel like you are also giving up a lot by taking a domination keystone on an adc. Because you probably have to take precision secondary for attack speed, which means you give up gathering storm and either coup de grace, triumph, or over shield because alacrity is a must. I guess it really depends how strong it actually is during lane. Guess we will find out.
houeah Thanks. Didn’t know it took time to proc.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying. The main reason why we included Twitch was because we felt like we should include an ADC of some sort in this vidoe (even if it's not entirely practical in the long run). This video isn't meant to be a full guide, just an intro to the rune. Our use on HoB on the PBE with Twitch was decent enough to warrant it but you're right, it may not be the most reliable. We'll include both rune pages on runeforge.gg
Is that pyke's theme? 😍
Hey I just start using this as Pyke, what a coincidence.
Can anyone tell me if Hail of blades is good for Lucian?
I think this rune would be gr8 on Rek sai. She already goes domination so the switch in keystone would not matter. As for the effectivness of the rune on her, She would get her 3 q of super fast , meaning She could get her Rage bar full super quick , só that She can use her true damage e super quick as well. She'll be super Bursty And probably one of the best duelers in the early game
Mauro Cruz i really hope so
It's always funny seeing some Bronze guy in the CZcams section giving a rundown of what they think is the best or what have you. This rune wouldn't help Rek'sai at all.
Reksais e doesn't interact with her rage bar, hasn't for a while lmao. They changed it in her rework
Koji the damage on her E increases base on the rage and if the rage bar is fully charged it deals true damage
Read her new abilities, ever since her rework her E doesnt do true damage at all. If shes at full rage her E deals double damage. "Furious Bite now does flat damage in addition to scaling off of Rek’Sai’s bonus attack damage. Fury no longer adds to the damage of Furious Bite. That being said, Furious Bite will do double-damage if Rek’Sai is at full fury"
Everyone is thinking of Tahm kench but think of the potential for Aatrox. Build Guinsoo and like a Bork u got some serious burst with his w. The amount of sustain in lane too that he will get I think will be huge
tempo is much better and everything on percision aatrox needs attackspeed not burst
Compared to conquerer? This rune doesn't compare on Aatrox. Even Dark Harvest is better than this rune on Aatrox.
what about mordekaiser? already forgotten lol
had an irelia use this and she went 0/11 lmao
lmao
I test dis rune in braum have dood synergy with passive
isnt this rune good on every rageblade champ? the faster u get auto´s off, the faster u get stacks so u can stack the rest faster
not really, you want the attackspeed once you are at full stacks not before that, generally you want to stack your rageblade and then go for fights not stack it up in the fight
I think lethal tempo would be better. You get 2 of them at the same time, and deal tons of damage when full stacked.
When i was reading your comment i had an idea does urgot w stack rageblade??? If yes then i think it might be a very good item on him
holy fuck, it does stack rageblade! tho onhit effects does 1/3 dmg while using W.
Its so bad that when I tried it out the game literally switched my rune into electrocute instead of this lol. I'm not kidding is this a bug?
I feel like it doesn't have effect on Yi lol
Mangyeko Sharingan!!
keystone looks like mangekyo sharingan
i'ts good on darius!!
How about kled ?
*cough* Kled *cough*
Vanros Sfen omg that's 1 second burst tradeoff
As a kled main who tried it, it fucking sucks. It sounds good indeed but the missed damage from precision keystones is very noticeable. And in a trade you'll get your 4 autos off anyway.
Early the keystone feels insignificant and as a laner, 5 seconds of out of combat is more than you'd think
Kled main : all about the conqueror rune
HoB is extremely negligible when mounted in comparison to the DPS of electrocute and conqueror in mid, jg, and top and honestly shouldn't be opted for.
Taking bone plating + HoB and going all in at low HP unmounted and getting mount back in 2 seconds with Titanic is pretty hilarious though and feels extremely good. However, it drops off really quickly and becomes even more useless. Tilts the fuck out of the enemy though.
A rune literally made for Xin and Xin only
update
cooldown is now 4 seconds
Precision tree works better for most of these champions
Riot really needs to balance alpha strike
So they added a new gameplay mechanic where you can equip to a hero that allows you to have a free Echo Sabre from Dota from start to finish? That's nice.
I prefer to use Diana with this keystone , looks useful for her passive
Run this on any champ in ranked and i will flame ur ass tho
Clearly aimed at autoattackers...so why is this in the domination tree?
It add a somewhat new playstyle and gives different rune page options to champions than just sticking with precision
Because the Precision tree is not so much aimed at auto-attackers, but to AD DPS champs, and this is a more bursty rune.
Well it does make autoattackers more *bursty* which is what Domination is about. This is *not* a sustained damage node.
I understand what it does but autoattackers NEED the attack speed from the Precision tree. If they go domination first they WILL need to go precision second. That is not really optimal for most AD Dps champions. I can see a few exceptions like Xin and others who gain benefits if they land their autos fast but still. On an ADC going Domination means a lot of wasted runes. Currently almost all AD Carries go Precison + Sorcery.
Alonso de Hojeda Yep, but that's the thing: it's only optimal for certain ad dps champs depending on your strategy, which is the whole point of runes. I can also see some champs like Teemo or Diana using them.
Kled yes?
will this be good on kai sa?
I will report you if go this rune on any champ
Ain’t this lethal tempo?
for rengar top is so broken
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just faced a Xin Zhao support with this. Got rekt (0 9 9)
Could be cool on Diana but Electrocute will always be better tbh
Code: Zwei this better than Electrocute because your get damage form three AA but you need some small CC or some thing to help you keep AA to get this full Active
Yes, 'cause Xin needed more AS
He doesnt need this keystone cuz he already has an aa reset and relys more on phase rush to stick on to people. This seems like an odd rune for very few champs in the game.
They showcase it with Xin??
Where's Kalista?
i take pta on gnar tho wot
Diana can be good with this rune too, faster to proc empowered third auto.
Wander Lust Diana is not suitable for this since she mainly needs to land those ability to deal damage, the attack is only just add-up
But I'm talking about mage-bruiser like build. e.g. ROA, Nashors, etc.. Tanky + sustained damage from auto procs
That build for my opinion, is for laning, which is not suitable for jungling
But then wtf is the point if Phase got buffed.
Beasted GG Sorcery's Phase? This is suitable for quick ability casting champ like Ryze, Ahri, Taliyah, in this case this rune is rarely used
Tham Kench.
Broken af on Jax with his passive
Zenvious conqueror is still better unless your playing assassin jax?
A wild potato appeared Sorry I meant jungle jax. With hail of blades you can finish them quick after stunning them. I dont think you'll ever activate conqueror when ganking
This rune is usless on Jax, 'cause ur aleays building Titanic Hydra
That means: aa > w > TH active
Where i am
This keystone is useless, it gives too little for being a keystone and it's in domination tree, no adc wants domination tree
YukiPaw its a keystone thats only good for like 3 diffrent champions and it isnt for adcs only exception to kindred
It's usless
But i wish they would ad something like a scaling onhit effect on these 3 autos tho
Champs who REALLY NEED to get off their 3 hit passives....I could really only think of Xin....All that aside, its a Tahm kench rune..goodbye glacial augment.
Domination with kindred? Lol Letal tempo with E is much better
hmmmm... Lethal tempo?
This keystone is rly weak
If you try full lethality assassin vayne and how kindred is played now its alot better to pick but its like predator now its only good on like 3 diffrent champions
in that case every champion r strong lmao :v kindred,vayne,..(most of adc) r seem as DPS not assasin so no need for a keystone to brust damage and especially for oly first 3 atk (need 5s out of combat too -_-) so it 's completely the worst keystone for adc. Moreover, most champ which main dmg deal from basic atk like jax,Yi can use it from beginning cause they r junglers and need to brust dmg as much as possible but in late game,conqueror or lethal tempo still take place
Jhin exists man, plus 24 ad at 1 min into the game, and now it last for 3 seconds and the cooldown is 8 s econds in and out of battle, pretty strong for him.
@@felougabular2652 the new one is viable
@@ValExp543 true, before it was almost worthless, the 5 s econds out of combat made it so
Kled the best
xin op
and I should take this over conquerer, why?
meybe on a champ who need more from domination than precision
where's diana
Ima gonna report you if you run this on diana
Dont play this on yi ...
Does Jhin ok with this rune?
It works but
Just go comet or fleet instead of this troll rune
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Teemo
It’s great on Vi, QpowEpowpowE dead
Broken
What, did people forget about Diana? My girl doesn't get the attention she deserves. smh
100% ban xin
Phase Rush still better tho
The rune is absolute dogshite - if you use it under blind it is consumed so effectively gives you absolutely nothing. Nice mechanics
EliteGi U definitely an ADC keep blinds by enemy Teemo sp
third
This is kinda what I was afraid of. This is gonna be strongest on champs with a 3 hit passive. ADCs are just gonna get stronger.
Stoneheart its dog shit its not as good as it sounds