Rare Prototype Pre-Production International Harvester Tractors from Fall 1985
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- Machinery Pete video interview with Danny Anderson (Dirt Boyz) of Pine Island, MN, well known International Harvester tractor historian/collector/restoration expert highlighting pair of rare prototype pre-production model International Harvester tractors from Fall of 1985. Anderson restored two of these rare IHC tractors which are headed to a collector in Austria. We also visit with Anderson's son Alex, the next generation with his Proving Grounds Repair business in Pine Island, MN. www.MachineryPete.com
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You should get FSC trucking to haul those tractors to Port of Bmore, then he can post video of the trip for us to enjoy them some more, he lives in Wisconsin
I have five International tractors , built between 1970 and 1993 in the German factory.
Type 423 ,644 , 745XL , 845XLA and 856XLA.
Three of them with the perfect "XL" cabin.
Between 9400 and 16600 problem-free hardworking hours on the clock.
Stil fully operational on my farm
High quality tractors !
Greetings from Holland.
I’m a case/case ih/international fan, I honestly wish these tractors would have came into production.
Those 85 series tractors would have been absolutely gorgeous to have on a farm as a utility tractor. The 88 series were probably best looking Internationals of all time. Thanks for sharing the history.
When I was a student at UW-River Falls, I happened to be at Lab Farm 1 where the 885 was being stored for a dairy club project. There was something I had to grab from the shed where it was stored and another IH enthusiast student and I gave it good looking over. We didn't know exactly what it was at the time but I'm glad we decided to be nosey and put our hands on a piece of history and dream about what could've been.
Lucky you!
Makes me wish even more that IH would have been able to stay a stand alone company.
Case was the best thing that ever happened to IH tractors. Combines are where IH had it
@@zackguth963 The merger was good because of fresh money. But it also lead to an inconsistent overall tractor program. The different series did not have much in common in point of cab and control design. Compare that to John Deere, where the operation logic and design ran like a common thread between all series.
IH would have had the same without Case.
@zackguth963 uh no case didn't sell anything close to the numbers ih did, ih was talking to tenaco in the 70s abt buying ji case they was just cheap hp
IH was the king of the heap hands down, if they could have survived the 80's the sky would have been the limit.
Got to demo a magnum when they first rolled out, Wow what an improvement! Were having a hard time selling the case look to the red crowd, until you made one pass across the field. 80s were a decade of great improvements
You're doing such a great job at showing everyone the way you see the world! Thank you for this!
We had the 85 series tractors here in uk. The 885 in your video was the biggest from memory in the series. They had the option of the same cab in video and called the XL cab. There was also a low profile cab option a far more basic cab with reduced hight for low sheds ect. It was the L cab. We had a 685 L and we replaced it a few years later with the 795 L The 95 series replaced the 85 in early nineties. The XL cab was fantastic and way ahead of its time. Great basic tractors though. Our 685 was one of very first case ih and had an ih front grill. They changed them to a case front grill from the 94 series shortly after and it did look smarter than the ih ones. I was around 11 years old when we got that 685 and it was my pride and joy
It would have been nice to see the 56 series over here get these bonnets too
Always great getn a lookin at Danny's shop!
Very cool shop thank you for your tour
amazing history right here great video Pete
Thanks so much for sharing the video.
Have a 5488, 4100 original hours super nice shape, love it and great power 😏 nice and quiet with forward air flow system too
Pretty cool tractors. That 5388 has some neat history behind it. It is a shame that IH could not survive the tough times in the 80's. The Magnum tractors in the late 80's early 90's are workhorses for sure. My uncle's tried out a 7120 in the early 90's and ended of getting one around 1995.
Brilliant stuff thanks
Hello from Australia, we had 484 & 684 on the farm when i was young. Dad traded up to a 685 4wd FEL & a 385 4wd. The 484 was beautiful little tractor, very nimble & the right power. Unfortunately the 385 was a right piece of junk. I guess you live & learn.
The 485X looks great! Would have loved to have one!
Love the video. would been great to see the inside the cabs
Wow some good looking tractors 😊
Very interesting video. It was good to see Danny. I was awake at 3:00 this morning and decided to get on You Tube and this video came up first thing. I am also from Danny's hometown. I was a year ahead of him in school and grew up on Chicken Ridge and my last name starts with a B. So hello Danny. It looks like you are doing well. I enjoy your knowledge.
I wish ih was still around i wish i could have a 7488
Interessting history behind these machines always really liked the 88 series style design, shame it wasnt used. Curious to know that these will be coming over here, greetings from Austria.
I enjoy these videos and listening to the interviews, I'm a fan of IH, however not indepth as many followers. My reason for commenting is based upon what Dan said about bad times in the 80's we are facing that reality again just worse, unfortunately what's occuring now would make you wish you were in the 80's again.
The guy knows his shit no doubt about that beautiful old iron
They ran those tractors (the former 84 series) in the lineup until they came out with the 5100 series Maxxum??
No. 5100 Maxxums were bigger tractors, both physically larger and more powerful than the 84/85 series tractors. The Maxxum line was from Case lineage. 5100 series replaced the 1594, 1896, and 2096.
The IH 74/84 series also lived on much longer than the 1990 introduction of the Maxxums. They remained in the CaseIH line all the way until the merger with New Holland, when the Doncaster plant was required to be sold, and those tractors then became McCormicks post CNH.
Between the two mergers, as CaseIH tractors... The 84 became the 85 series in 1985, then 95 series in 1991, then 3200/4200 series in 1994, then C/CX series in 1998-2002. They even kept the same old IH 4 cylinder engines through 1997, until being replaced by Perkins engines in the C series.
If IH had not spent so much on the 2+2's, and put same $ into the mid size cab utility tractors, they may have survived. Other companies went to MFWA/D all the way through their entire line, and didn't spend on full time 4wd in a narrow market range. I'm not a Red guy, but I hated when they went to CaseIH
They also spent a ton on the axial flow narrow market especially back then. I was red but never could get behind caseih.
@@derrickzenner9300 so true
In the UK back in 83/4/5 the farm I grew up on had a 2wd 5288 with a western cab and all the top indicators painted Black and not wired up.I was told by it's current owner that it was possibly a cab safety test version..I drove it a lot as a teen,it was joined by a 4wd version with a Black interior that never felt as special..G Dixon of Sunk Island owned them
Talking about finding old family tractors, I've been trying to find the serial number off an old 826 German Diesel Non-Hydro we used to have. Grandpa is getting to where he can't remember alot. I'm pretty sure it got traded to the Case dealer in Dillon SC but don't know for sure. Hope I can find it one day.
We had a 5488 fwd we put duals up front. we farm south of ft Wayne. Tractor came from hull bros
The 88's look more like a Case than an International anyway.
Allis had better cabs with the 8000 series.
Cool!
It would be cool to make a mold to reproduce these hoods to make clones for the 85-95 series tractors
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Would love to have that 485x cab and hood on my BELARUS 250as. Probably looked to much like a sportilized BELARUS for IHC. Love my repowered 1942 Case SC
If those tractors take I70 to Bmore, they should go right past my house, I live about 30mi west of Bmore on south side , just B&O old mainline between my house and I70
When the merger happened the engineers at Case were jealous of the IH engineers. Case knew their tractors were crude and outdated comparatively.
Have read ‘A Corporate Tragedy’ and all of the Crain’s Business Journals covering the sale multiple times. IH could have declared chapter 11 and survived. But Brooks McCormick choose otherwise.
Lastly for the Case people the 94 series tractor was so far behind the 88 series. Additionally at the time of the merger Case was only producing a few pieces of tillage, no planting and no harvesting equipment.
All the case tractors very effectively dropped. The 5100 series came from David Brown. Afaik, after the merger, the 5100 was sent over to the IH engineers to go through it, modify and fix any issues as they saw fit. So it looks like it was recognised internally how good the IH engineers were.
Correct, Tenneco purchased the ag division of IH so they could have a complete equipment line. When the CASE people walked thru Hinsdale to see what they purchased and saw the new farmall 18 speed powershift sitting there. CASE took them to racine and re-engineered them into a magnum partly cause they had there CDC to use and partly cause the 466 went to Navistar. Tooling to build the Magnum all got moved from farmallworks to racine to build the magnum.
@65882Plus2 is there any documentary on this with interviews with employees such as the engineers etc. It would be a fascinating watch. IH was such an iconic American brand. There is a magazine in the UK called classic tractor that carried interviews with former employees for David Brown etc. whom were interviewed about that time. The change rippled through all aspects of both companies and dealerships etc.
have you ever sat in a 94 series verses a n 88? a 94 is miles ahead in comfort and ergonomics. there is a reason the magnum got the 94's dash.
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Nice looking units, 😅
I live in Europe and often spend my vacation in Austria.. Do you have any information on the new owner, if he has a museum or something? Or maybe are willing to show his collection to a selected few? We dont have many American build IH tractors, so I would love to see some in person
are those 2 small ones, left hand shifters?
As someone that knows absolutely nothing about tractors...they look like any other tractor to me lol. But cool none the less to see prototypes of anything
Got a nice 4wd 1655 oliver they all sold there technology from oliver they were way ahead of deere and ih
Nice try
I want to see inside the cab of the 5388 with you pete
Its just a 7140 cab
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Greg, if you could mic your guest and yourself that would eliminate the echo. Fascinating topic. I gave up at a quarter way in because I wasn’t enjoying the sound.
I thought the sound was just fine.
What’s the story on the faded out magnum in the shop?
Maxxum
If it's not Red it stays in the shed!
I thought ih was goin to put cummins in their tractors, it was gonna be called the new farmall
Case 94 series were better than any ih at that time. Ih people were so used to crude outdated crap if they would have entirely developed the magnum it would have been a clunky rattle box just like the rest of there shit. Always thought that company was very hillbilly.. they did 100 things mostly like shit
I really want to paint a 7150 white black and orange like a 94 series case. That would look so much better.
Hate to say it, but International made the worst cab on the market.
The little ones look like the Allis 6000, but changed just enough to not be a direct copy.
The 6000 Allis were awesome, from the flywheel forward.