Does Pharrell’s Louis Vuitton Suck?
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2024
- Let’s have the Pharrell at Louis Vuitton discussion, cause it’s a lot more nuanced than most other fashion brands, because historically, it’s not actually a fashion brand!
#fashion #style #louisvuitton #pharrellwilliams #lv
But I lowkey like the clothes tho.. especially that white suit number with that pink bag
Yeah I really like how Pharrell pairs beige clothing with the bright coloured accessories
yes!! the clothes aren’t bad people just take a few not great looks and run with them, most i think are good tho
Pharell makes clothes for people who say " low-key " in youtube comments
@@alde1611ok there’s nothing wrong with that 💀
But the jacket was a carhartt knockoff, ironically
Thankyou for explaining to ppl who dont know that the main focus is the bags & trunks. Some of the men's clothing are fine. Others are very limited and meant for only certain people & collectors.
Then they shouldn’t have held a fashion show that’s about clothes
Does this fact make the clothing less ugly?
@@johndeere3486 the fashion show is one of their main ways to advertise the goods they are going to sell each season.
you could say it isn't the best way but it could have been rooted in the big part of the traditional way which fashion brands use to present their items to the media and the masses.
or you could say "it is an advertisement"
oh fun fact : LV sells every time they do these runways. but mostly their accessories are sold.
PS.(even tho no one has reacted to my comment yet but here is more information) the fashion show is also an investment. if it worked out then the critic (often get paid to say good things) will rule out their thoughts and with the teams help they will make it sellable to the masses aka. publish it to normal everyday people life to get more engagement in order to lure more costumer.
Lol this was the most ignorant fashion philosophy I’ve heard and you agree with it makes you look just as dumb and ignorant.lmao
@@BroadConceptur right but that’s not his point 😅
They really put the Minecraft cow texture on a trunk lmao
And you still can't afford even to touch it.
That pattern is used in all branches of American military uniforms lol
@@tinachristine4573 neither can you babe 😂
@@abandonablesnowmansince when is the military sending ppl out in minecraft skins 💀be so serious
@sybill123ful but I'm not here dry hating. I'm full of admiration. Losers attack what they can't have, winners admire greatness coz it's familiar to them.
That red leather cowboy fit just does something to me 🤠
Its giving formula one and im here for it!
They should have used Chance. He's a Black cowboy too. He raises horses
Does it bug me that Louis Vuitton does not have its own design language? Yes.
Did I like this collection a lot? YESSS!
I think the clothes were cool, the accessories were also really nice and the bags I found to be great as well. I loved the turquoise bag, it’s tacky and I am here for it.
Agree 👍🏽 This collection was meant to honor much of the west, southwest and native American Heritage.
I’ll say this Pharrell and Virgil are the only ones that have made me interested in buying a LV bag. They create pieces that people will ask you about and comment on for better or worse
Neither of them did anything as important as Murakami, Monogramoflage, or the still-best-seller Neverfull bag. All were the invention of Marc Jacobs
@@peterlangendorff9846precisely
As an Indigenous American I have been seeing from the Internet community of Indigenous Peoples, the collection is not being perceived well. Tokenism is a word highly used to describe this collection.
Is this not also appropriation and commodification of indigenous craftsmanship? Is any of the jewllery made by indigenous craftspeople? Are they benefited by this collection? These are questions that come to mind when I see fashion houses engaging in similar behavior. Of course, it's not just LV but many houses including Dior, that constantly copy and appropriate patterns or entire garments, jewllery etc from cultures that they give no credit or monetary compensation to. I would like people to instead directly support local and indigenous artisans rather than give their money away to large fashion houses.
@BlueStarBurns if you read articles on this collection, you would know that he actually used native American designers do recreate native American imagery. People just love to jump on concepts that they have not fully researched.
@@tinachristine4573 I have read that the creative director "worked with indigenous artists". The extent of their contributions was not mentioned and they were unnamed. I specifically asked if the jewllery was made by indigenous artisans, I have not found relevant information on that. What are the concepts that "people" love to jump on? Appropriation? Commercialisation of indigenous heritage? Capitalism? Colonialism? I have in fact done research on those topics at a postgraduate level. Do indigenous people have a right to say that they didn't like the tokenistic approach of this collection, or have they not done sufficient research to appease you?
@@BlueStarBurns do you want me to send you the relevant article? I'm very happy to do that.
Tokenism: the practice of making only a perfunctory or symbolic effort to do a particular thing, especially by recruiting a small number of people from underrepresented groups in order to give the appearance of sexual or racial equality within a workforce.
At best this is Tokenism..
I love this collection.. and Pharrell did a great job as a creative director of menswear of Louis Vuitton..
Thankyou, I agree
Totally agree. It brings a Ralph Lauren inspired Vibe into New Frontiers! 🩵
I agree
He should have used Chance. He's a Black cowboy too. He raises horses
The red leather cowboy suit with decals is so low effort its hilarious
Once you explained it, I got it.
Pharrell's appointment was for publicity not based on the fact he's a good designer from the very start ..... :P
didnt know the turquoise thing omg cool
i honestly love pharrell’s bags despite having no desire to own them.
Why do you let Pharrell off this easy when you used to give Virgil hell? At least Virgil made exciting clothes that helped to sell the accessories too. That's how it's supposed to work.
🫢 tea
Because she isn’t black I guess
exciting is subjective because i think this runway is better than any of virgils, Ges the best fashion writer EVER but his runways weren’t very interesting it was more of his materials used then the actual clothing
Virgil was shit true and true.
I loved the show. The collection is not for the faint-hearted, but who cares for them? The clothes, the casting and the music were amazing.
The teal bag could of been done in a marble pattern to look more like the actual turquoise stone
yeah I can say (some of) the bags are nice but the clothes suck. Virgil was able to do both, at least get somebody in there to make it respectable cause this collection was rough.
We need a full video on this 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
There is a full video. I enjoyed it and the music was nice. CZcams has a video regarding Pharrell's Louis Vuitton Menswear collection 2024. Not sure of the exact title.
the turquoise bag looks so cheap to me 💀 idk what it is about it exactly, but it looks like something i’ve seen my grandmother look at in a kohl’s or jcpenney. the pink one is cute i guess, but it’s just overall so boring and screams “run down department store” TO ME lol
I totally get that vibe too 😅
@@paolabuesolike tacky things can be cute, but not when it costs thousands of dollars 😅 tacky doesn’t always mean cheap, and boy these bags *look* cheap as hell
it's not an excuse to use fabric that looks cheap and like plastic that becomes stinky. the jeans in the beginning are a crime, they look like fabric that is used for primark.
It’s terrible. I’ve been slowly getting rid of the LV purses that I’ve been collecting since the early 90s
Why? They already are vintage or on the way there, if they are in good shape. You aparently liked them, why getting rid of now?
That turquoise Speedy made my jaw drop! Its so beautiful.
It was tacky asf
That’s what all big Fashion brands are about ! Selling accessories, perfumes, make up etc ……… the fashion shows are used as a marketing spin
All of the designs look like stuff you’d find at wal mart . No exaggeration
Dude if I could afford one of those pink or turquoise speedy bags, then I would definitely get one. He’s doing something right for real!
I actually like the clothes. But its not just about the clothes with Pharrell he makes the whole show a spectacle by releasing new music, great set design and locations, interesting themes
that last jacket with the little turquoise details is stunnin
The show can be overwhelming to some who don’t like the theme but if you go and touch these clothes and view them as separates there’s tons to love. Plus I rarely see anyone in RTW especially people who hand out judgement. The accessories and bags and trunks are absolutely knockout and that IS LV’s core business. The rest is a cultural connection.
I think a lot of the clothes work as pieces, not the full look. Like the white leather jacket was beautiful as well as the cut of a lot of the pants were very classic and could be worn more than one season.
omggg brows on fleeeek
The issue is though you could claim every house is an accessories brand because they all make most of their sales through accessories and perfumes etc. LV isn’t special
Mojang better be getting royalties for that Minecraft cow skin XD
I don’t hate the clothes. They aren’t super dumb or ugly like some other clothing I’ve seen, but you’re 100% right
I actually like the collections, yet I absolutely hate maximalism, but I’m loving the expansion of the damier prints and the leather too. The other brands have been pretty toned down in design so it’s nice to see this deviation.
I love everything Pharell wears he’s always been iconic we need game changers like him in fashion 😊❤❤❤❤
Omg this collection is soooo good one of my favorites tbh
Thank you. Honestly, the clothing isn't mich worse than lots of other brands, and people can pick and choose looks and pieces to style how they want.
Those jackets look like carhartt jackets tho.
Turquoise bag omg I am in love
I like the bags and the red/black pattern
No matter what’s being said about Pharrell the clothes are gonna sell remember he has a big influence on the Asian community and he also has a big impact on the celebrities as well and they all we continue to BUY!!!
I think those are amazing items!! Good for Pharell!!!
Pharrell's first show on the Pont Neuf was enough explanation. Just, wow
This collection is growing on me. I kinda want that red jacket. 😏
Fantasy products is a great description
If done correctly, both the clothing and the accessories sell each other. Virgil did that. He made the clothing desirable, which sold the bags and vice versa. Pharrell is failing, and there's no way to polish this turd.
This is my view on the "issue" too. If Virgil could do it, why shouldn't we expect the same from other designers? It's a lame excuse for a shitty collection.
Absolute agreed! To come up with the excuse that LV is a bag and trunk company and the clothing comes second is so weak. If this is the case then stop doing clothes in the first place..
Right. But even the bags are off. LV bags always had shape and strong structure. This liquid speedy bags he's turning them to is just not it. They looks like bags for vegetable markets.
@@mbr4797 that was the dumbest and most uninformed opinion I have ever heard from someone, nevermind a “fashion critic”.lmao like literally that is the whole point of all high end fashion houses. Accessories or cosmetics almost always comes first in terms of market share. The clothes and the fashion show is supposed to be what makes the people buy the bags, shoes and perfumes. So it’s not an excuse that Pharrell has been churning out trash for the runways.
@@mbr4797 Where have you been? LV was first known for luggage, bags and trunks and still is. The clothing came later especially with designers like Virgil. BTW, the collection was not "shitty" like one person commented.
I thought that it was good! It also helped in its own way, just as Ralph Lauren's collections have been to move away from ideas of cultural appropriation and more towards ideas of cultural representation and appreciation. Yes it could have been a bit more heavy on the design aspect of the clothing, but the majority are actually something one could wear. A lot of fashion isn't. I think it was not done too badly. Not perfectly but not too badly at all.
It all just looks like stuff Pharrell would wear/has worn lol. He styled himself.
They hate it now and will EAT IT later!
I may be the only one who loved the WHOLE show. The bags were the star of the show but I Loved the long coats especially the ones with the fringe at the bottom. I found it to be very entertaining.
Pharrell made Louis Vuitton look way better in my opinion.
Thanks for explaining. The collection, well, was a bit much or maybe not enough. It seems like looks put together fom a merchandiser and not designer. Is that a fair read? But I do love the pink Speedy and the dress/pant set.
Well if that’s the case, all the models should be walking with an accessory. Because the clothes fall flat.
Brnad like Burberry and lv the logo is really fuckign important for clothes to sell .
These clothes are so good
As somebody who loves western fashion I think this collection is great
Diplo got his tour wardrobe
This collection adds nothing to the conversation surrounding native americans and is a subpar copy of Chanel's Paris-Dallas collection at best. It pushes no boundaries and adds no social commentary towards the conversation that we haven't seen or heard before. And don't get me started about the (lack of ) design and the borderline offensive and tacky way he used that band
The jacket looks like Carhartt with an LV logo.
A lot of what was shown on that runway was awful. But I loved the show and the choir / composition Pharrel wrote. Some of the accessories are dope.
I like the pink bag 👜
Pharrell is doing a good job! Only thing is lower prices (highly doubt that would happen )
Good Lord that red leather get up 😳
The men's suits are actually so cute
Dear Virgil, return if possible 😭
I’m not mad at the nascar logo leather suit. Every millennial trend has seen a resurgence and this was also a big deal in the late 90s/early 00s. He just elevated a hood look by making a moto jacket western and interpreting as a suit.
I thought it was well done. Pharrell is a kitschy, campy guy and that definitely comes through in this collection. The jackets, coats and some of the suiting were really well done in my opinion. Loved the subtle touches of turquoise in rivets and buttons. I fucking loved it, sorry.
The selection was actually extremely commercial which is a good thing. I’m not sure what elevated perspective people wanted for a menswear collection from a street wear designers.
Everybody saying all fashion houses are "accesories" focused...No? Lol Dior, Lanvin, Chanel, Yves Saint Laurent? Ringing any bells? Those all started as couture clothing brands. Louis Vuitton started as a *luggage* company. That's what Luke is saying.
This is a problem with big /formerly/ couture brands which are now owned by greedy corporate guys - they have stopped to create a new fashion, they just follow the wind where the money are. And if the money crowd likes and knows nothing but hoodies and joggers - they just do exactly this, just put their logo on it and a huge price tag. After all H&M starts looking more posh and sophisticated than LV with such designs.
They say it because it’s true. If they wanted a black designer, there are many qualified candidates who are actual, trained designers. Just because someone is talented in one artistic area it doesn’t mean they are qualified to perform every creative job.
The pink carry-all is so barbie
I'd buy the pink keep all and teal speedy.
WHAT!!! Pharell is doing an amazing job with the men's wear ! It's so my style !!
everything is fire, the clothes and the baggage
We need a full video analysis
Yes. We. Do.
Some people argue that the look is too stereotypical and on the nose, but i actually liked it. I kinda hate when a designer have a big theme but only implemented a miniscule of it into each pieces.. Like, gurl.. You're doing a big stretch, no one can see what you're trying to say
Fashion is business 💵 Goods need to sell so the company can pay their workers and continue existing 🤔
Appreciate your perspective. For me the accessories were good, the clothes were so basic and boring. Really hoped for more creativity with the clothes.
The show was amazing
Its very costume-esque in a cheesy way. At a top tier price point that comes off as ridiculous.
Hey luke can you do a video on kpop fashion brand ambassadors?
Off to thrift shoelace ties, cowboy boots & vintage denim... enjoyed the show overall, the bags/accessories however your going to have to pony up & get those silver dollars out
A lot of pieces in the collection is wearable its not trash.
i think the clothes look awesome
From a business perspective is a great collection
I like it. People are off base saying it sucks.
I thought everything LV made was ugly until Felix became an LV model and everything he wears looks amazing
Louis Vuitton was always a travel brand. That’s what it was build off from. I used to work for the brand so I know the history
It’s clean. Never seen western wear like this before
People wear the hell out of LV clothing😂!
Pharrell is doing a fantastic job . People just love to complain about everything all the time .
Agree, a lot of them are just trolls who go from place to place complaining, lol
OK even discounting the clothes - can we talk price points for the bags? Because HONNNNEEEYYYYYYY
As someone from Texas I’m sorry but yeah the collection itself was tacky 🫤. Props to whoever can pull off the yeehaw fit tho. 🤷🏻♂️
He got them men up there looking like The Village People. 😂
I like it. It' doesn't wow me but those are a pretty collection
so they try to operate as fast fashion and focus primarily on cash grabs and not on timeless designs?
It’s cute but not cute at LV prices - this is Target fast fashion.
Pharrell did a great job...I loved the show 👍👍👍👍