Give the step a try and let me know if it works for you! Timestamps for the lesson: 0:49 - Why do musicians change the timing (the 1 and 5)? 1:46 - Why you're not wrong if you're breaking on the opposite count as normal 2:45 - How to switch timing (front half of basic) 6:07 - How to switch timing (side basic) 6:50 - How to switch timing (back half of basic) 8:22 - How to switch timing with a partner
@@thedancedojo I have in several salsa music hear the change ,,,and people ask why the change in step ,,,they don't hear it but I do,,,any way thanks from Baja California
Excellent video! I love how your videos touch on stuff that so few people talk about. Would've been better to demo with a live partner plus music though. 🙂
Corona virus my man. no partners around! It was getting long so I felt most people should be able to figure it out to music since yiu have the count. challenge yourself and see how it goes. thanks for the kind words and watching! -Robin
Omg, I did not know about this music change ! I was always convinced that I was making my step mistake at some stage during shadow dance training at home with salsa music. So now I am very happy to know that I was right with my steps and musicality. Thank you Robin, you saved me again!! By the way, I would like you to demonstrate this correction step concretely together with your dance partner when you have such a chance one day.
It's always hard having all these un-answered questions in your head hey? Glad we could cross one off :) I'll see I can fit a timing switch in next time i have a partner around. -Robin
Thanks Robin! Funny thing, when I saw the title I felt the answer in my body as 'just repeat the half of the phrase'. However, hearing you explain it, break it down and give so many variations, that gave it more color. Great job again. 👍🏽
I never thought anything so technical could be so interesting! Thank you. Apart from anything else, I at last have seen what the rock step is , a term I've often heard used , but never really understood. I do hope we can get back to the dancefloor in the next year or so- and this is an old git talking, for whom time is very precious and is running out!
HA glad you enjoyed it Terry! Hope I didn't ramble too much. Keep in mind people might call the "rock step" something different. Everyone uses words in a different way. What i'm calling the "break step" some might actually call the "rock step" but it will definitely NEVER be the other way around - that you can be sure of :) -Robin
I actually use a crossbody lead to adjust to timing changes. I think what I do is a type of dancing in place waiting for the proper time to lead my partner through the slot. It means I only have my right hand touching my partner and in this open position my partner does whatever it is she does given that I haven’t started the lead yet. I obviously haven’t analyzed it to closely. It seems to work, my partner has never appeared confused.
I always feel when I have jacked up the 1 and 5. The dance still works, but the flow is def off. It is like the rhythm is backward, probably because it is :-D That is always my cue to shake my shoulders or do some styling move to let the rhythm catch back up with me moving to fast 🤣
There is absolutely no way to predict the music change unless you know the song and you know it's coming. As you get more comfortable with music and hearing the timing, you will start to become faster at recognizing when the music/timing changes happy. It's a process so be patient. Thanks for watching! -Robin
Thanks! The solution is all right, but the description of the "problem" lacks understanding. From musical point of view, of course the two bars of a 2-bar-phrase are different to the musician - there is a first and a second bar. It doesn't matter if they counted both 1 to 4, they know that the second "1" is different to the first "1". Secondly, to the dancers, it's not purely about "convention", it's about the dynamics of the figures corresponding to the dynamics of the music. So if a figure has kind of an opening and a closing part, then it makes sense to lay it out according to a first and a second bar of a musical phrase. Doing the opposite feels weird for this reason. You're still right when it's just about the steps - the music doesn't care whether you step forward or backward nor with which foot you do it. That's a freedom and actually it would be wise to use that in teaching...
Give the step a try and let me know if it works for you! Timestamps for the lesson:
0:49 - Why do musicians change the timing (the 1 and 5)?
1:46 - Why you're not wrong if you're breaking on the opposite count as normal
2:45 - How to switch timing (front half of basic)
6:07 - How to switch timing (side basic)
6:50 - How to switch timing (back half of basic)
8:22 - How to switch timing with a partner
Bravo
Man...you have been the only instructor to mention this ,,,thanks
Thanks a lot Raul. Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching man! -Robin
@@thedancedojo I have in several salsa music hear the change ,,,and people ask why the change in step ,,,they don't hear it but I do,,,any way thanks from Baja California
Excellent video! I love how your videos touch on stuff that so few people talk about.
Would've been better to demo with a live partner plus music though. 🙂
Corona virus my man. no partners around! It was getting long so I felt most people should be able to figure it out to music since yiu have the count. challenge yourself and see how it goes. thanks for the kind words and watching! -Robin
Omg, I did not know about this music change ! I was always convinced that I was making my step mistake at some stage during shadow dance training at home with salsa music. So now I am very happy to know that I was right with my steps and musicality. Thank you Robin, you saved me again!! By the way, I would like you to demonstrate this correction step concretely together with your dance partner when you have such a chance one day.
It's always hard having all these un-answered questions in your head hey? Glad we could cross one off :) I'll see I can fit a timing switch in next time i have a partner around. -Robin
@@thedancedojo Thanks Robin, you are great ;)
Nice simple ways to get back on time. Bravo
Thanks!
Thanks Robin! Funny thing, when I saw the title I felt the answer in my body as 'just repeat the half of the phrase'. However, hearing you explain it, break it down and give so many variations, that gave it more color. Great job again. 👍🏽
Your intuition is strong Marcus! Hope I didn't ramble on too long haha -Robin
Tha clarity with which you explain makes learning dance online possible and fun. Thank you, Robin!
Wow thanks Divya, that means a lot! So glad you're finding value in the videos :) -Robin
I wish you have played a particular music that demonstrate the timing change.
I have to leave some off the work to you ;) -Robin
I never thought anything so technical could be so interesting! Thank you. Apart from anything else, I at last have seen what the rock step is , a term I've often heard used , but never really understood. I do hope we can get back to the dancefloor in the next year or so- and this is an old git talking, for whom time is very precious and is running out!
HA glad you enjoyed it Terry! Hope I didn't ramble too much. Keep in mind people might call the "rock step" something different. Everyone uses words in a different way. What i'm calling the "break step" some might actually call the "rock step" but it will definitely NEVER be the other way around - that you can be sure of :) -Robin
Muy buenos consejos. Se ven sencillos, pero debo practicarlos.
Dale! con practica todo sale :) -Robin
Muy bueno....al fin encontré un video que habla de este tema....!!! Hubiera estado mejor un ejemplo con música..
Gracias Adrian! tal vez en otro video puedo agregar un ejemplo con música. Hablé mucho y fue un video largo >_< -Robin
I actually use a crossbody lead to adjust to timing changes. I think what I do is a type of dancing in place waiting for the proper time to lead my partner through the slot. It means I only have my right hand touching my partner and in this open position my partner does whatever it is she does given that I haven’t started the lead yet. I obviously haven’t analyzed it to closely. It seems to work, my partner has never appeared confused.
Definitey more options than what I just showed you, as you clearly know! Thanks for sharing Martin. Keep up the exploring :) -Robin
I always feel when I have jacked up the 1 and 5. The dance still works, but the flow is def off. It is like the rhythm is backward, probably because it is :-D That is always my cue to shake my shoulders or do some styling move to let the rhythm catch back up with me moving to fast 🤣
Haha yea, if you're always used to the 1 it will feel off for sure, but it's not wrong timing wise - still all good! -Robin
Gracias!
Con gusto! -Robin
nice video. What I do not understand is, do I have to know when the music change happen? Is there a way of predict the time change?
There is absolutely no way to predict the music change unless you know the song and you know it's coming. As you get more comfortable with music and hearing the timing, you will start to become faster at recognizing when the music/timing changes happy. It's a process so be patient. Thanks for watching! -Robin
Thanks! The solution is all right, but the description of the "problem" lacks understanding. From musical point of view, of course the two bars of a 2-bar-phrase are different to the musician - there is a first and a second bar. It doesn't matter if they counted both 1 to 4, they know that the second "1" is different to the first "1". Secondly, to the dancers, it's not purely about "convention", it's about the dynamics of the figures corresponding to the dynamics of the music. So if a figure has kind of an opening and a closing part, then it makes sense to lay it out according to a first and a second bar of a musical phrase. Doing the opposite feels weird for this reason. You're still right when it's just about the steps - the music doesn't care whether you step forward or backward nor with which foot you do it. That's a freedom and actually it would be wise to use that in teaching...
Great addition and well said, thanks a lot! -Robin
@@thedancedojo Thank you!