It's hard to shoot in the wind... My range is literally located by a windfarm (there's 10+ wind turbines around the range) and it's a good day when the wind is less than 10mph I'm sure the rifle would perform better on a quiet day, although if your range is like mine those are few are far between
sure is - especially when it's variable and these light .223 bullets. So much so, that I put some ballistics info in description of a later video. I was a bit shocked when I found out how much 100 yard groups can be affected. And is why I don't bother with groups at 200 or 300 yards like I would prefer to do. I've walked out to the target and wind is going opposite direction than it was when I was at the bench. czcams.com/video/lHqPamROlnk/video.html It's funny for me to watch these older videos; sitting on boxes, brass flying to the ground, no summary at the end, targets sideways, and much more. Live & learn. This Savage is actually a great shooter, even with most factory-loads. The loose-nut behind the trigger? Not so much.
For me, it's not that precise and just testing and tracking results. I can't sit there all day to shoot a few rounds. I shoot a couple of groups, and then switch to a different rifle and rotate. My rifles are cheap factory budget models. It's not that important for me. I don't get it red-hot. I don't know a whole lot about competition precision shooting, but I do believe they have to shoot with a warm barrel because there's not enough time to let it cool. So they shoot fouling-shot(s) to ensure they don't have a very different 1st shot and then the rest grouped elsewhere. Hunters (at distance), on the other hand...need to know very well where their cold-bore shot is going to hit, and if needed a 2nd or more shot.
Where did you get the rest? Looking for one a little bit more stable than the one I have. On another note: I upgraded my Axis 223 with a Desh bolt lift kit, a Glades Armory bolt sleeve and bolt. Total $175. I also cut all but one coil off of the cocking spring that holds the cocking pin in. Play with this a bit to get it to hold the pin in place. Used new Star Line brass. Best group shot at 100 yds. was .39 inches, 5 shots with 25 grains of military #846, (civilian # BL-C2) and a 55 gr Hornady FB bullet. Av velocity about 3150 FPS. Most of the groups hovered around .5 to .63 inches. Next is developing a load for my 40 gr Sierra BT for chuck hunting. Expect 3500 FPS + or -.
the DFT 2 I got thru basspro...it was $160 back in 2022...looks like $220 today. yikes. When it comes to mods...I'm still an infant. The only thing I've messed with is the trigger adjustment on the two Compass rifles. I did watch a couple of vids about the Desh, and sounds interesting. My level of understanding doesn't even really allow for me to understand how that kit would affect accuracy, but I don't doubt it does. I am looking to spend some more time on the .223 loads in the coming weeks, and you reminded me to order up some 40gr, so hopefully I can get somewhere in the neighborhood where you are at. The rifle sure does seem to have potential.
@@ShastaBean The Desh kit improves the action of the bolt. As from the factory it is quite stiiff. The bearing set in the kit helps reduce this.As for accuracy, the gun is very accurate but needs ammo to obtain that goal. Are you anywhere near North Carolina?
@@richardbernier1402 Arizona. Just ordered some 40 gr projectiles to try a few loads with, but what I really plan to do is try some 5.7 x 28 loads with them. It drives me crazy that the available ammo for that is so nerf'd and really like that caliber. I'll be taking the .223 out and run a few factory 40gr through the chrono and see how they group. One of my .338s (the CA) is driving me crazy so I'll be putting some time into that as well as the XPR .30-06. I do really want to work out some good 40gr varmint loads for the AR & the bolt .223 but that won't likely be for a couple of weeks once I get them shipped here. I eventually want to do the same for .308 and some varmint loads. There aren't a lot of videos that really go into it, but I actually think that could be one of the best defense rounds at with a 110 or 125 gr projectile. People discuss it in the 5.56, but not the AR-10. I can't find a single gel test for it.
@@ShastaBean Have friends that live in Pheonix. We travel thru sometimes on our way to Missoula Mt for the long range matches there. About a 5500 mile round trip. I shoot Black powder rifles, Sharps, Hi-walls etc in competition up to 1000 yards. I also do some wood chuck shooting here. I like the .223 and it is good to 500 or 600 yards. Most of the shots here are in the area of 300. I also have 4 AR's in 223, so the dies etc go a long way. I only asked where you are located because we have some very good shooters here. Bill Pasco, my shooting buddy was a long range shooting champion, therefor I thought if you were close enough we could help if you needed/wanted it. If you have any questions or we can help, it does not hurt to ask.
@@richardbernier1402 I only bought my first rifle (.30-06) back in late 2019, so obviously I only have a couple (almost few) years of getting into the recreation. Had no desire to make it a hobby. Until I started getting some knowledge, then hit by realization that it's right up my alley...being overly-analytical and all. My first handloads (.338 LM) were fired in June of '21. Point is, I'm nowhere near any competitive shooting. I'm just looking to get some consistency at 100 yards so I can dial the turrets to the exact number and hit some steel on my 1st try @ 1000 yards. Once I accomplish that, I'll be looking to tighten things up or go out further, or who knows... But I'm always open for learning new things. Considering the short time I've been shooting & loading, I have taken in a TON of info from others, and come a long way, in a fairly short time. But I don't over estimate what I know, because there is a whole to take in. I would have needed to start 40 years ago to even think I know much...and even then, probably much more to take in.
When it comes to factory ammo, the two best grouping rifles I have are both of the Savages. I have only spent a short time with load development on this one, so I don't know how good it can get, yet. Mine both have the Accu-trigger, which I like. I suppose after-market triggers might be superior. I haven't tried any. I also don't know what the other Savage triggers that aren't Accu-trigger are like, but I'd look to make sure it has one unless a person plans to replace it.
@@ShastaBean I don't reload and use factory ammo. My reading is that factory is good as reload but can't buy in powder increments. I just want an all around factory shooting 223 with out spending an arm and leg
It's hard to shoot in the wind... My range is literally located by a windfarm (there's 10+ wind turbines around the range) and it's a good day when the wind is less than 10mph
I'm sure the rifle would perform better on a quiet day, although if your range is like mine those are few are far between
sure is - especially when it's variable and these light .223 bullets. So much so, that I put some ballistics info in description of a later video. I was a bit shocked when I found out how much 100 yard groups can be affected. And is why I don't bother with groups at 200 or 300 yards like I would prefer to do. I've walked out to the target and wind is going opposite direction than it was when I was at the bench.
czcams.com/video/lHqPamROlnk/video.html
It's funny for me to watch these older videos; sitting on boxes, brass flying to the ground, no summary at the end, targets sideways, and much more. Live & learn.
This Savage is actually a great shooter, even with most factory-loads.
The loose-nut behind the trigger? Not so much.
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For me, it's not that precise and just testing and tracking results. I can't sit there all day to shoot a few rounds. I shoot a couple of groups, and then switch to a different rifle and rotate. My rifles are cheap factory budget models. It's not that important for me. I don't get it red-hot.
I don't know a whole lot about competition precision shooting, but I do believe they have to shoot with a warm barrel because there's not enough time to let it cool. So they shoot fouling-shot(s) to ensure they don't have a very different 1st shot and then the rest grouped elsewhere.
Hunters (at distance), on the other hand...need to know very well where their cold-bore shot is going to hit, and if needed a 2nd or more shot.
Where did you get the rest? Looking for one a little bit more stable than the one I have. On another note:
I upgraded my Axis 223 with a Desh bolt lift kit, a Glades Armory bolt sleeve and bolt. Total $175. I also cut all but one coil off of the cocking spring that holds the cocking pin in. Play with this a bit to get it to hold the pin in place. Used new Star Line brass. Best group shot at 100 yds. was .39 inches, 5 shots with 25 grains of military #846, (civilian # BL-C2) and a 55 gr Hornady FB bullet. Av velocity about 3150 FPS. Most of the groups hovered around .5 to .63 inches. Next is developing a load for my 40 gr Sierra BT for chuck hunting. Expect 3500 FPS + or -.
the DFT 2 I got thru basspro...it was $160 back in 2022...looks like $220 today. yikes.
When it comes to mods...I'm still an infant. The only thing I've messed with is the trigger adjustment on the two Compass rifles. I did watch a couple of vids about the Desh, and sounds interesting. My level of understanding doesn't even really allow for me to understand how that kit would affect accuracy, but I don't doubt it does. I am looking to spend some more time on the .223 loads in the coming weeks, and you reminded me to order up some 40gr, so hopefully I can get somewhere in the neighborhood where you are at. The rifle sure does seem to have potential.
@@ShastaBean The Desh kit improves the action of the bolt. As from the factory it is quite stiiff. The bearing set in the kit helps reduce this.As for accuracy, the gun is very accurate but needs ammo to obtain that goal. Are you anywhere near North Carolina?
@@richardbernier1402 Arizona. Just ordered some 40 gr projectiles to try a few loads with, but what I really plan to do is try some 5.7 x 28 loads with them. It drives me crazy that the available ammo for that is so nerf'd and really like that caliber.
I'll be taking the .223 out and run a few factory 40gr through the chrono and see how they group. One of my .338s (the CA) is driving me crazy so I'll be putting some time into that as well as the XPR .30-06. I do really want to work out some good 40gr varmint loads for the AR & the bolt .223 but that won't likely be for a couple of weeks once I get them shipped here. I eventually want to do the same for .308 and some varmint loads. There aren't a lot of videos that really go into it, but I actually think that could be one of the best defense rounds at with a 110 or 125 gr projectile. People discuss it in the 5.56, but not the AR-10. I can't find a single gel test for it.
@@ShastaBean Have friends that live in Pheonix. We travel thru sometimes on our way to Missoula Mt for the long range matches there. About a 5500 mile round trip. I shoot Black powder rifles, Sharps, Hi-walls etc in competition up to 1000 yards. I also do some wood chuck shooting here. I like the .223 and it is good to 500 or 600 yards. Most of the shots here are in the area of 300. I also have 4 AR's in 223, so the dies etc go a long way.
I only asked where you are located because we have some very good shooters here. Bill Pasco, my shooting buddy was a long range shooting champion, therefor I thought if you were close enough we could help if you needed/wanted it. If you have any questions or we can help, it does not hurt to ask.
@@richardbernier1402 I only bought my first rifle (.30-06) back in late 2019, so obviously I only have a couple (almost few) years of getting into the recreation. Had no desire to make it a hobby. Until I started getting some knowledge, then hit by realization that it's right up my alley...being overly-analytical and all. My first handloads (.338 LM) were fired in June of '21. Point is, I'm nowhere near any competitive shooting. I'm just looking to get some consistency at 100 yards so I can dial the turrets to the exact number and hit some steel on my 1st try @ 1000 yards. Once I accomplish that, I'll be looking to tighten things up or go out further, or who knows... But I'm always open for learning new things. Considering the short time I've been shooting & loading, I have taken in a TON of info from others, and come a long way, in a fairly short time. But I don't over estimate what I know, because there is a whole to take in. I would have needed to start 40 years ago to even think I know much...and even then, probably much more to take in.
I'm looking for a 223. Do you like this rifle
When it comes to factory ammo, the two best grouping rifles I have are both of the Savages. I have only spent a short time with load development on this one, so I don't know how good it can get, yet. Mine both have the Accu-trigger, which I like. I suppose after-market triggers might be superior. I haven't tried any. I also don't know what the other Savage triggers that aren't Accu-trigger are like, but I'd look to make sure it has one unless a person plans to replace it.
@@ShastaBean I don't reload and use factory ammo. My reading is that factory is good as reload but can't buy in powder increments. I just want an all around factory shooting 223 with out spending an arm and leg
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