8 Things you need to know when you start collecting knives!
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
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My tip for beginners is…. DONT BEGIN 😂
😂😂😂
Trust this man, your wallet will thank you heavily.
I’m pretty sure my collection is worth thousands of dollars….
Truest words ever said. A very slippery slope indeed
He who seeks to make a small fortune from collecting & selling knives should first start with a large fortune….
Been collecting budget knives for about 4 years and have over 100 of them with zero regrets. Yeah, I got a few duds over the years, but I still keep them as a reminder of my past bad judgement. Other than that, I love all my knives and rotate them as much as possible so most of them see at least some daily use. But I agree with you, if a new collector wants to use their money the most effectively, then they shouldn't go crazy buying up budget knives like I did.
Budget knives are the collector's foundation. Through budget knives a collector can decide if there is a designer, lock type, or even blade steel they like. Most knife guys are far more willing to thrash a budget knife before a premium knife. Budget knives allow you to attempt mods on before you try it on a premium knife. I have sen guys with budget knife collections and these are the golden days of budget knives.
I agree, budget knives definitely have their place. I’m just saying be selective is all.
I give old knives away and try to get other people into using knives more
Same here!
I am so glad I skipped the Budget knives in my collecting Journey and just started grabbing the USA classics, BM, MT, CRK, HINDERER, SPY, STRIDER and when I figured out what I liked about all those I was able to sell them and recoup my money or trade for other MID-techs that have features I have learned are important to me.
Nice man you avoided a lot of hassle and saved a lot of money!
id argue modern budget knives are good enough that you could collect only budget knives and be totally fine w it. it’s all personal preference, some people like budget knives, some people don’t. i personally mainly stay with spydercos lol
@@acid6urns There is a difference in collecting and buying to use imo. A person who just buys the knives to use and abuse, you are 100% correct. But for collectors, that'd be a waste of money.
Personally I only buy to use and abuse. That is my collection. Buying some ridiculously overpriced ($1,000+) piece of art has absolutely zero interest to me. I do not purchase to just keep it in a safe or resell. Buy a well built USA Made knife and it will last you a lifetime +.
To each their own but I've never understood the hype around just buying a knife to say you own it lol
Totally agree with your definition of a warn cliff and a sheep's foot. Good advice on the strop, I use a steel. It does the same thing but doesn't remove material from the edge. Strop after the steel doesn't work anymore. Break-in is a must. My Manix 2 was so stiff, kept on operating it, and it's breaking in well. Good video, Doody, thanks.
Suggestion for saving up for higher end knives: every time you're sorely tempted to drop $50-80 on the budget knife de jour, put the cash you would have spent on that soon-to-be-forgotten knife in a box. Before you know it, you'll have $300+ in cash to use on a better knife that will stand the test of time.
Yes! Great advice
Great vid as usual! Just a slight difference of opinion. Agree with the basic sentiment that buying heaps of budget knives is not a good idea. But I believe that buying a few quality knives to start with is a great idea as they provide context that enable you to appreciate the more expensive knives you'll buy later on. The quality budget knives also give you experience and help you decide what you do and don't like in a knife and which types of knives best suite your needs (for those who are knive users rather than purely collectors)..Also, my small collection extends from $30 kives to $250 knives, including some US made Spyserco's which I love, but my favourite EDC by some margin remains a $100 Kizer Drop Bear with Micarta scales and 154cm blade. It is such a fantastic EDC knife for my needs that I bought 2 more Drop Bears in different steel/ handle material. 'Premium' or more expensive is not always better.
I agree. I’ve purged my whole collection and only kept a few premium knives. This is the way to go.
Yeah man I’m pretty close to doing that too
@@doodysdaggers it’s nice because you got a good set and everything gets pocket time and appreciation!
I'm guilty of buying alot of budget knifes 😂. Yet I rotate them on my daily carry. Thanks for the video. Enjoy your content 🤙🏻
Great advice great video brother
Too late, already bought a bunch of budget knives. Your previous beginners video really changed my knife collecting. Kevin I really appreciate you and sharing your experience. It has helped me a lot. Thank you.
That’s great to hear man, glad you’ve been enjoying the channel 🤠
Solid tips 👌. Kinda wish I had seen this earlier in my knife journey, but learning the hard way has been part of it. Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic Points & GREAT Advice .. Thanks Dood For The Leveling .. 💜✌🏼
Although I've had an interest in knives since being gifted one at age 12, I live in the UK where our archaic laws have hindered any real chance of collecting them.
Hence, I've only just really started collecting in the last couple of years at age 60...and I have also recently come to the point where I've stopped buying crappy cheap folders and clones with a view to upping my game... hence, i bought a Bestech Junzi slipjoint and a CJRB Pyrite and the difference is huge, even at that level! No more clones or "gas station knives" for me!
So, as a newbie, just about everything you've said in this video makes perfect sense ...
That said, it'll still be a while, and a few more 'budget' knives, before I go up to the next level coz I'm poor.... 😅
Great video!
You have a new subscriber...
I dont know about saying Dont buy a bunch of budget knives... I think its a process that ppl may go through and then instead of getting like 5 budgets you can just get 1 premium knife.... but I think its not a waste... cuz theyll have gone through that and had a feel for all the different kinds....
Some people are into the budget knives... thats theyre version of collecting... also its sorta anti for the knive industry to tell people to stay away from budgets... In saying that I bought 2 budgets and a few counterfeits before I jumped into the deep end... but thats not to say that budget knives dont have a place in my collecting... I just havent found one that i like more than what Ive got
I agree with your opinion on this subject. I always bought quality tools as in auto, welding, pneumatic and electric. A cheap tool to get that one time only job done is fine with me too. Quality tools will be with you for a long time so its worth the cost.
Yes great comparison!
Good simple thoughtful video mate.
If you can, check out the Kizer Klipper in 154cm.
Great budget slicer
Thanks for this
Good tips my dude. Thanks for the video
I really wish I would have watched this when I was first starting out. I have way to many budget knives that at this point I have given to my 16 year old daughter who enjoys them and likes having her own collection but like u said I'm looking at American made knives and in order to budget for one I have to go around 3-4 months without buying any other knives. Then I can afford to buy it. The biggest mistake I make is the need and desire to have a new item every week or sooner in some instances and that leads me to buy cheaper models just to have that it's new moment and or the thing people r talking about that week and then when a big nice knife rolls out I don't have the funds for it. I try to budget x amount of money towards this hobby every week and not go over my limit. Really nice video I always enjoy ur candid attitude towards CZcams and knives.
Yep I know exactly what you’re talking about. If a week or two goes by and I haven’t bought a knife, I start getting the itch haha
Thanks bro, for the advice.
I got 5 budget knives travelling in my direction, and I'm sick of it. I have bought myself a Padre for my birthday, and it is 🔥. I will save up my money from now on. ❤
Right on! Padre is super badass
Good advise.
Great tips! I just stopped (for the most part) picking up budget knives maybe 6 months ago, and it was the right call. I sold 15 in a garage sale a few months back and don’t miss them at all. Great advice DD 👍🤘🔥
Great tips...
Worncliff or Sheepfoot: CRK Insingo, Kershaw Belair, Pro-Tech Malibu, Karbon Buckhorn, or Spyderco PERA 2 & 3.
This is great man thanks
Dude! That was some very good advice!
I made a bunch of those mistakes when I started and quickly learned how much money I had spent on a bunch of budget knives that I could never get back on my investment.
I learned all the tips you gave on my own and learned the hard way!
Yep me too! I made all those mistakes as well. Live and learn
Finally, someone on CZcams’s gives great knife info. China companies are ruining the US knife market introducing 5 new knives a day.
I love your channel because of your content and it keeps getting better. Just stay the course!!!
China knives are one fad after another and they’re not forcing CRK and other great US knife makers to do anything different than they’ve done for the past 30 years.
Great video! When I started buying more expensive knives, budget knives became less attractive. I wish I had started buying US made knives sooner.
Good advice I don't make anything yet maybe one day but I do it for the love of collecting but one is super accurate and said well
Dove into getting some knives this year and have some nicer, some budget knives (two reate gravity knives, a custom magnacut, white river knives, kansept) - I like them all for all different reasons. Maybe as I use them I will gravitate towards more certain types.
Nice content dude. Just started collecting in November of last year. I now have 30 ish knives. 4 hinders, ad20/20.5(with o.g.scales), 2 vargas, james brand, a few spydercos and some civivis/kizers mixed in. I'm hooked lmao.
Sounds like you’re starting out well!
All true 💯! Get a Sebenza first. And it will save you thousands you won’t want anything else. Trust.
I mean civivi vision fg.. its a "budget" knife and i am kinda new to the knife world.. I think its actually one of the best knifes i own and i own some 300 - 400 euro knifes.
Solid advise. The best thing is talking knives with people and getting to nerd out. I'm actually looking forward to the Knife Makers Syndicate in Indy so that I can hopefully get a chance at buying a grail or two, but also to meet some people that I see or talk to online!
Lucky!! That would be a blast, have fun!
@@doodysdaggers Thanks, Dood!
Good video, wholeheartedly agree. Just bought a bestech knife that was a "good budget knife". I got it and... yeah, it was a knife. Buyers remorse literally 5 minutes after opening it
Yep I’ve done that way too many times haha
I’m done
Those budget knives make great gifts down the road for non knife collectors, or even stingy knife collectors. And they also are great practice if you wanna get into knife sharpening. A few years ago, I was a bit reluctant to buy a kubey on sale for $40, now I want to save up for a Herman and also a Cortex XL. Grail knives are so worth it!
Very true!
This is the way! Like so many, I wish I’d seen this video when I began my knife journey. Another good piece of advice- join many groups and buy used! Currently a buyers market, so get vouches and buy a more premium knife for the price of a few budget!
Yes! Thats a great one
I agree with everything u said. I started off with a small sebenza 31 micarta with magnacut. I figured if I am going to spend my money on a gud knife y not go for a knife that's many would say is one of the best knife to have if they can choose one. I can honestly say I luv this knife and don't plan on getting a bunch of knives. Lol plus I can pass this knife down to my son etc... 👍🏿 great video
That’s an amazing starter!!
Grade A advice! Obviously go with your budget and if collecting means having 10 knives and you refuse to pay over 100 bucks then so be it. But by and large most people will make the leap I did it on my 4th knife, spent 30 bucks on two knives, then 50, then I jumped right into the Demko AD20.5 for $325. I think I popped that cherry too soon but I am glad I did because I buy knives ranging from 30 to 450 and I use them all and I only sell things I don’t ever carry. Sometimes it’s the 200 dollar knife and sometimes it’s the 60 dollar knife it all depends. Sorry for the story book but it is excellent advice and definitely anyone reading this but a Doody Strop!!!
@@danpennella yeah exactly, premium means different things to different people. Always enjoy your comments dood 🤘
@@doodysdaggers hell yeah man you touch on a lot of topics people don’t usually talk about and I think it’s a huge help. These are pearls of wisdom you are spreading
Thanks for the video! New sub
Welcome buddy!
👍🏼good vid Dood.
I’m all budget tho. I just can’t justify hundreds of dollars for a small mass produced factory machine made knife/tool.
You should send me a premium knife to change my mind😆😁
Lots of great advice from my dude doody!
This channel and others like yours are what is so good about the knife community. Keep up the good work. ✌️
You are so on point here. I look at all my budget (sub-$100) knives and can't wait to unload them. It took me 6 months or so to figure out what I like. I think my biggest mistake was buying more affordable versions of some knives. I thought I was saving by getting models with injection-molded / FRN scales. Turns out I hate that plastic, lightweight, toy-like feel. Then I discovered OG scales and the mod life, and that's a whole different discussion....
Yep exactly! Plastic sucks
thanks for the info- I want to get one of your strops
Hit me up on IG or email
@@doodysdaggers I dont know why there arent more full width strops like yours... I understand its prob more expensive... but it makes stropping so much easier especially for newbies...
I've sold a shit ton of budget knives on knife swap and I concur you barely get your money back you actually lose a lot of money lol. I only buy one budget knife once in a while now and focus more on premium knives. Great advice bro I been collecting since early 2020.
Yes, best advice walk away don't start. It doesn't matter what price point you are at.
Man, describing me. Budget knives, mostly staples feldspar, penguin, ruike, then slight step up sage 5, ad20.5, back down to ekko (total user) and now, dammit I really want a compression raccoon. Endless cycle lol
Haha yep
Haha watched this one 10 years to late! Great video
Haha yep I made those mistakes too
Every now and then I buy a budget knife that has a unique trait that stands out but yea you definitely don’t want a bunch of budget knives at once.
Great video with some solid suggestions. However personally, I would strongly discourage anyone from going over the $250 price point for any knife that you're actually going to use. High end collectors are a different story but I believe once you get to that price you pretty much won't see any functionality improvements from any knife out there. There might be 1 or 2 exceptions but that's about it in my experience.
Edit: I take that back. $300 would be my limit.
I disagree, I’d rather use my $800 Rosie over almost any other knife I own. It’s built perfectly for use, I don’t own another knife that cuts like it
There's definitely more than a few knife reviewers/unboxers that ride that line of being too much of a hype machine and click-baity.. I gravitate towards you and LeftyEDC cause I tend to hear the genuine gripes about a knife more so than the too overly positive reviewers.
Yeah I know exactly what you mean about not having people to talk to I have over 50 knives and no one to talk to about them with and it sucks.
Get a few very nice folders and a few very nice fixies (all USA made) and call it a day.
Instead of trying to scratch the itch and buying knives you like just save up for your grails. After buying my CRK and Hinderer i haven't bought another. Same thing goes for watches.
Amen brother
Forgot one in the debate....sheepsfoot, wharncliffe or reverse Tanto lol, its funny how many list them wrong or they just call it a "modified" sheepsfoot/wharnie etc.
Oh yea the reverse tanto debacle
Quality over quantity most definitely.
I shapen my knives at 20 degres and a microbevel at 25 . But when i just strop is it better at 20 or 25 ?
I don’t get that precise with it. Just guesstimate what angle your bevel is and strop away
Doody’s Definitive Beginner’s Guide: How I Became a Cool Dood and Learned to Love the Knife
Sounds like my new book title!
@@doodysdaggers 😆 really though, this is a great video 🤘
I need a good strop, still available ?
I have four spots left. Hit me up on IG or email
I think a big piece of advice I'd give to new people, is prepare for a lot of disappointment. More so when you get into higher end knives. Not with the knives themselves, but with your ability to actually get them. I still see people angry that they can't just go buy something when they want it. It's just the nature of the game. You'll be hard pressed to find a knife collector that doesn't have at least one white whale that they've been chasing for years.
Very true! For me that’s part of the excitement. If every knife I wanted was just sitting on a website waiting for me, you wouldn’t get the excitement of the hunt!
My tip is don’t pay full price for Medford, Heretic, Hinderer, Strider or Microtech. Their resell is crap. I paid $200 for a $600 Heretic Medusa on KnifeSwap.
That’s a good one!
Hey bro how much for the strop?
$65
@@doodysdaggers can u put me down for 1..i get paid next thursday..can i buy 1 then?
Also- celebrate the stuff you DON’T like! I don’t like Bowie blades and I’m thankful for it! 😂
How much do you charge for a strop?
$65
@@doodysdaggers how do I get on the list
Dear Doody, I have an Arthur Wright and sons Barlow. The knife is unused because I cannot get it to open and close. I tried to give it away to Thifty Kaniffy online but he asked me to send him a email message. I don’t know how to do that. I am an 58 year old man who does not know anything about these new cell phones. I cannot even give this knife away. Do you know of any knife guys who would trust me with their name and address so I can find a new home for this Barlow? If I can’t give the knife away I will just toss it in the trash. Yours sincerely James Luther from North Carolina 😊
Well you’re going to have to figure out how to send a receive an email. Nobody is going to give you their address in a public comment section 🙂
@@doodysdaggers I will just toss it in the trash
@@jamesluther3506hey yo! I don’t know that brand but I hate to hear your gonna throw it away. I think some CZcamsrs have a PO Box address in their video descriptions. I think 2ndchancegeorge receives a lot of old knives from different people. Try that guy maybe.
I totally understand the anti technology thing.
@@andrewfett142 I have the hardest time with using these new cell phones. You can’t even give something away. Everyone thinks you’re a thief.
@@andrewfett142 I will try to find 2nd. Chance George. Thank you
As others said, don’t begin, used to be fun, now knives are so mass produced that they are not collectable like they used to be. The collectable knives are so rediculous in price that it is not even worth it. Fix up your car, buy a golf cart, fix up your house,
Hey what's going on Kevin! Hey I thought you had quit your welding job to do CZcams full time?? But I see that you are still working a 9 to 5
Nope I never quit my job
@@doodysdaggers ohh ok well maybe misunderstood what you were saying about leaving your job to do CZcams full time on one of your videos a couple of months ago ..
my tip for beginners..as a knife user/collector for 7 years. call me what you want
but chinese clones. yes chinese clones. 1/5 1/9th the price, 98.5 percent of the quality. you're welcome
Dood good advice for any stage of knife collector.
My tip is more money you spend the happier you will be