Salmon Fishing Tip - Dipsy Diver Mod - S Spring Clip Dipsy - NFN's SW Dipsy
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2018
- This is an alternative method to running a Dipsy Diver. It allows you to use longer leads for catching boat shy fish. I call it a Secret Weapon Dipsy (SW Dipsy). The hollow Dacron from the leadcore is more for going over braid line. It will help open the loop for you.
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Your how to videos are fantastic thx Nick
We tried this technique over on lake Ontario this past summer with great success . Thank you for this invaluable tip . Can't wait to use it again next season .
Thanks for the positive feedback. Glad it worked for you.
rigged one of my dipsy rods this way an finally got a Salmon to hit it1 worked great and makes it easier to fight the fish at the boat with the dipsy removed Thanks Nick for the info
Love your videos Nick !
Nice job NIck. Also a great picture.
I used this on the Michigan side of Lake Michigan. I had great success on this set up . Hardly used my wire divers. Love this set up. Going to try and set my wire up this way.
I never tried this with wire but I use it as a high diver above the regular wire setup. Good luck and thanks for the feedback.
Nick, I just rigged this up tonight and instead of an S-Clip, I used a small carabiner. Thank you so much for showing me this, I'm heading out of Algoma tomorrow and I hope this set up replaces my problematic slide divers.
I tried slide divers in the past and like this set up a lot more. Good Luck bud.
What a great idea with the clip and loop, hope that was your Dad you had with you, Enjoy him, and great salmon,
Neat trick. I've also seen guys use Offshore clips to attach the dipsey to the main line. I run slide divers, so I can change lead length and I don't have to monkey with removing anything from the line and risk losing the fish that way.
Great idea. I took some tubing from some trailer hooks I had around. Cut a 1/4” piece and slid it on to the curves put the s spring on the dipsy and pushed the tubing over the spring on both ends to there is no chance of the dipsy coming off or the s spring coming off the loop on the main line.
Hi Nick great tip. Love your videos. quick question instead of swivels could you use a double uni-knot. Thanks Mike.
Great idea. I'm going to try something like that this year. But I think by putting that loop in the mono you reduced the breaking strength by about 1/2. Keep posting, you put out some pretty interesting videos!
I caught up to 29# salmon with this set up. Caught probably 20 set up on this. No failures. One using 30# floro and one 40# mono.
Nice vid NFN and thanks for sharing this technique. Do you find that the diver still dives to the same depths according to the chart, without any pull or resistance attached to the back (terminal end) of the diver?
I believe it to be slightly less just because of the added resistance from the clip and extra knots going through the water.
Look at that SOB, that was funny. Nice fish. Get your gear back to normal yet? After the accident. We fished two rivers last week. It was slow, but caught some very big steelhead and Lakers. STILL have yet to boat a king.
Great video as always. Question on the Fluorokote line. I cannot find the 50lb anywhere that you said you use as your leader material.
The heaviest that seems to exist is 30 lb. Any idea where a person might get the 50 lb?
I get mine from Amazon but only 20 and 25# not sure about 50. Good luck.
I'll give it a try with the super clear water where I am running my program it could be a game changer. Any experience with "O" size divers. Thanks for the help!
Would a double uni knot work also instead of using the double swivel so you don’t have to worry about the swivels coming through the eyelids a reel?
Yes any knot that works for joining two lines together. I also tried just adding the loop at the leader connection with a Prusik knot but it slipped while letting out line.
Thanks for the videos!!
Great to see you and your Dad fishing!!
50lb leader or 20lb leader or doesn’t it matter???
For Brown trout i use 12#, for salmon 25#, and 32# flourocoat line
Hey nick - any reason why you couldn’t put the loop in the braid before the swivel then connect the mono leader ?
It would work with a heavy braid but not thin stuff. Especially not power pro because the loop doesn't open up and it's a real pain to hook the clip. NFN
Will the Dipsy pull to the side on different settings? And will it still dive as deep. Also, why not use this all the time with flasher/fly, meat rig and spoons instead of having the Dipsy always attached. Can’t wait to try.
Joe, the dipsy is still going to pull down and to the side the same as it normally would except that it will have more drag on it due to the long lead (extra line drag). At times the dipsy is part of the attractor so I still use it like normal on my wire diver. If the wire is not getting hits then drop another SW dipsey. Good luck on your next adventure.
ii love slide divers but im going to try this
I did not care for deploying slide divers. This mod is much easier in my opinion. Good luck
I'm going to try a single or 16 release in place of the s clip. I will wrap 3 times behind the pin. Has anyone tried it or is this going to be a problem ?
Great idea....would this work with a dropper knot?
Yes it should work fine with any In-line loop that can be reeled through your rod into your reel.
Instead of using swivels you can use a double uni or fg knot
yes that would also work.
I used a drop loop with the lead core sheath. Only one knot to connect to braid.
Nick where did you get those clips? I have searched all over the web and can't find them. Off subject but did I see you wearing a Navy shirt?
Yes I was in the Navy 89-94 here is a link to some S clips. A small carabiner attached to the Dipsy would also work. Good luck 👍 Nite Ize KLKBF-11-R6 Bigfoot Locker KeyRack, Carabiner Chain with 5 Stainless Steel Locking S-Biner Toes to Hold Keys Separately + Securely, 1,unisex-adult, Silver a.co/d/jaHTEBI
@@NoFishNicksAdventures Thanks Nick, I am a retired Navy Chief. Tight lines!
@@navychief8425 i was a snipe. EN3 on DD992 USS Fletcher (really enjoyed my service). Thanks for your service Chief Jensen
@@NoFishNicksAdventures I was an Independent Duty Corpsman, my only small boy was FFG 42.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures How much line do you load on your trolling rods?
I did this but with a slight mod. Instead of swivles I used hollow core and willis knots.
Yes I also did that on one of my rods last season and it worked well. Thanks for sharing your experience.
How does it release if there’s no resistance on the terminal end of the dipsy?
Set your drag a little tighter than you normally would and it will trip when the fish starts pulling. Takes a little trial and error based on conditions.
Going give it a try here in nw lower Michigan. Thx! Nice vids with your Pops.
Same question I had. A fish will never trip this set up. The only thing that will put pressure on the release is water pressure.
It trips when the fish makes a run. It does not trip every time but I would say 80% of the time it does and it you watch my videos you will see it takes a lot of hits. I've been using it for two years now. It works on my boat. Give it a try.
No-Fish Nick's Adventures I’m going to try this as I like the idea of running long leads on my divers. Do you think that adding an S clip to the rear, and hooking it to the line without a loop would make it trip more often/easier. Thanks for the great videos!
can you please show how each end of the dispy gets connected. To the rod and to the leader?
S clip stays on the release side of the dipsy (the side that locks in and releases when pulled on). The loop in your line is where you attach or remove the dipsy. Watch the beginning of the video :17 shows it in action. Just remove the whole rig off your line.
No-Fish Nick's Adventures so the only thing attached to the dipsy is the loop to the s clip? With the length of the s clip your leader should clear the rear of the dipsy? Do i have that correct? Thanks
Bruce Hochstetler, yes the loop in you line is all you attach to the S clip the back of the dipsy is left dangling with nothing attached. Just use a little tighter drag than you normally would so the fish trips the dipsy.
No-Fish Nick's Adventures thanks!
So do you not connect anything to back of dipsy?
The back swivel is not attached anything as shown.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures cool so I'm thinking in my head why couldn't you clip an or 15 snap to front of diver, let line out, then wrap line around or 15 1 time and clip at desired length then just open snap when reeled back in with fish.??
@@travismoore2495 that might work. I do have some smaller sized adjustable clips that could be used for rigging that way but you might loose your dipsy if it doesn't work? I might give it a try in the future. Thanks for sharing your idea.
You can still run this setup as a regular dipsy to if you don't want the 50' lead
Yes just take off the S clip and make a short leader for the back end of the Dipsy. Good luck.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures perfect gonna try this set up this year hopefully thanks for the great info
How is the working with only 1 clip and loop?? Wouldn't you need a clip and loop on each end of the dipsy?? Can you show the rigged dispy instead just how to tie the knot?
It works. Trust me . This was my most productive rod on my last two adventures. Videos coming soon.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures ... Yes but that's my question not if it works but how. To fix a dipsy on clips it's connected to the line in 2 places not one. How is he rigging it so there is only 1 connection?
@@bill_y4762 there is only one point of contact to the release point on the Dipsy. The fish pulls back and the release pops open. It works.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures but when you take the dipsy off the line there's 2 points of connection the release in front and where the lures connects in back. So to get the dipsy off your line wouldn't you have to disconnect 2 points??? Man slap me and call me Searcy but I'm not seeing it. Not seeing how to run with one loop only. Currently I run the set up with 2 clips and it works fine, but to eliminate 1 clip would be great. Would you consider a video of how it actually connects to the line?
@@NoFishNicksAdventures right but the line is attached in two spots. In front at the release and then in the back which runs down to the lure. So don't you need to disconnect in 2 spots? So yes 1 release but attacked to the line in 2 places
So you don't hook the back of the dipsy up at all. ???? Just use the set. CORRECT
Yes that is correct. Nothing is attached to the rear. No clips, no lines, and it still works. Easy on and off. Good luck
I’m guessing you find this necessary because you believe you need to get the lure away from the dipsey?
Not necessary but helpful especially on the high Dipsys or when the water is really clear and the fish are boat shy.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures Why not just have a long leader and simply hand land the fish?
Why not run adjustable slide diver
These are much easier to put out IMO
@@NoFishNicksAdventures ohh I see
What are SW DIPSEYS
Secret Weapon Dipsys. Lol
Why not just run a slide diver?
I tried slide divers for one season and feel this is easier to send out.
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Just use what's called a slip dipsy much easier much faster
The loop set up is faster and easier to set than a slide diver but you do have to unclip it on the way in.
Just use u charters slide divers...no need for any extra stuff ....
These are easier to set than slide divers in my opinion.
@@NoFishNicksAdventures yeah I've used dipsy divers and recently bought slide divers....haven't use them yet but they seem a bit more complex but yet better ....will see soon I hope