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Pratt's Dam Rainbow Trout Lift 2024
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- Volunteers gather to lift migratory Rainbow Trout over Pratt's Dam in Cobourg Creek. The dam is privately owned and blocks the migration of all fish. The only reason the dam still exists? The owner likes the falling-down hunk of concrete, regardless of the negative effects it has on the fish community and stream health.
awesome video and a great story , thanks to all the volunteers for helping !!! over the years there has been much debate over dams and the migration of fish , hopefully we as humans can get it figured out soon
Thats awesome
I had no idea!😢
Help the owners build a fish ladder.
The dam is not stable enough for a fish ladder. That would also only help jumping species (so species like White Sucker could not pass). The owner has been offered solutions, but has declined them.
Great work by volunteers! How does one get involved? I’d love to sign up
You just have to show up on the day (no advance sign-up required). The exact day is typically a saturday but varies; it's generally posted on some social media before the event, or the GRCA (they do the permit) would know as well.
Its nice to see the small population of steelhead swim up the creek after the lift. But the creek holds resident trout populations above it. I fear they would decline with the competition of migratory fish and other warmer water species having year round access to the waters. Not to mention the horrible fishing etiquette that it would attract having large migratory runs. The best fishing i ever had in these tribs were the years they didnt do the fish lift because of covid.
Great video, thanks for sharing!
An EXCELLENT example of "there's two sides to every story."
I fish inshore saltwater in N.E. Florida. I have seen populations of one species decline because of over protection of a different species....and the vulnerability of "that" species was highly questionable, if at all.
Thanks for the comment.
Not all "tree hugging" is beneficial. I want a healthy ecosystem as much as the next guy. But I want it based on SOUND SCIENCE, not whimsical knee jerk decisions that aren't beneficial or serve to line the pockets a select few.
Or the resident trout would benefit from the subsidies of eggs every spring and fall if all species had access!
@NatureTidbits Did you just exclamation point him? You don't state any evidence, only a maybe. He just told you his fishing experience during covid verses before and after. Yet, you lend no credibility to that. Even if he's mistaken, which he's probably not, you don't get to yell at him.
Life is a series of trade-offs. Maybe we only have the option of one spices thriving. Maybe there's a nice balance. But we'll never know when "so-called" environmentalists are driven to operate with tunnel vision.
You should have THANKED him with an exclamation point, like he did to you.
I know your type. The fishermen know. I've spent 15-20 hours a week on the water, fishing 15-20 different species for 25 years. I've seen the rules change, the results, and who benefits.
Have fun with your self-serving fish parties.
Exclamation point him? Interesting phrase. It wasn't yelling, it was emphasis. Sorry you misunderstood the intent. I'd be happy to share the evidence that subsidies from migratory fish support higher abundances of other fish - check out doi.org/10.1111/fwb.12762 and doi.org/10.1111/fwb.12494 and doi.org/10.1577/1548-8659(2003)1322.0.CO;2 as examples. Sure life has trade-offs, but that doesn't mean the trade-offs are equally good or have to occur in all scenarios. As for the rest of your comments, you don't know me or my experience, yet you seem to accuse me of having tunnel vision because...why? I'm suggesting the removal of a dam benefits the fish? The science is clear: dams are not good if you want healthy streams. I can't address the rest of his comment because I unclear what he was fishing for and when. I assume he means the rainbow trout lift is damaging to resident (presumably brown) trout above the dam (since he had better fishing when the lift didn't happen), but he was also happy about the lift happening. I'd be happy to continue that conversation.
@NatureTidbits
Why? Your first comment was short, uniformative, and snappy. If you had said half of what you just wrote to me to him, I wouldn't have been so accusatory. Now I'm off to read your hyperlink.
Remember, "None of us is as smart as all of us." ....except with a mob. The witch hunters are wrong because there's no such thing as a witch. Just a bunch of angry and misguided people.
I was very clear in my initial reply to the other poster..... I want a healthy ecosystem. But I also want decisions based on SOUND science. He left some doubt in your science. Your first brash reply seemed to verify my suspension based on my experiences with past ecological decisions made in Florida and their poor outcomes. Your last reply lends credibility that you not only want changes made based on sound science, you're actually DOING something to implement those changes.
It's a shame the province can't mandate it's removal. You'd think they'd have that power to protect the natural ecosystem.
Wouldn't that be nice!