True. The best thing to do is wait for the days when one of the daily challenges is to play in 2 space matches. Wish space was more appealing in the game.
I used to mess with the ZII before the Nu & Sazabi launched, but I didn't play it much. It was a fun suit at the time, but the age of sniper suits has long since passed, atleast, for the most part. We still have some exceptions but it's not like the first two years.
I have ghe Zll but i never really used it since at 600 hundred i have my gelgoog himo, zaku 3, geara zulu and the Rezzel. But the few times ive gon against have either been a good opponent or just cannon fodder.
I just don't know how anyone uses the transforming part of transforming MS besides the tanks. Everyone else is nigh but impossible to knock out of the air, but everything I touch is downed the instant I appear on someone's radar.
planning your flight paths and timing play a big part. That and practice. For me, I really struggle with the assault guntank. Still can't figure it out.
i find that the trick is to either flank or to fire at people that are already engaged with someone else i've had great success with for example Ga-Zowmn's flight mode for finishing off low health targets running away or to pile on damage onto engaged enemies together with the ms mode missiles
@@borgar1765 Guess I need to play on more maps that have luxuries like that. Otherwise, I tend to get too close to them even when using the slowdown option, and typically get turned around to and shot down or just plain meleed out of the air (usually by an ally)
@@Mobilesuitk9 Here I mostly just act reflexively or out of instinct for the most part. Practice would probably help... From experience with it and the Hildolfr, I find the GAG's a bit of an extra-aggro Hildolfr, trading the heavy stagger for a smaller frame and even more guns. I have a horrible time pulling it off, but one of the main combos seems to be "ram> stun with cannon>ram>dump oil mines on> withdraw for another attack run". And the flamethrower's for annoying the hell out of everyone by spraying it in to a messy cluster fight or ruining infantry's day
I wonder sometimes if its a bit of a power creep thing. I feel like older transformables like Zeta and ZII here get stunned out of the air real easily, while later ones like Delta Plus, Kai, and even something like Woundwort or G-Zawomn feel like they can take even a bit of punishment before being stunned out of the sky. Its especially weird as Zeta since its builds lean towards tanky frontliner that just happens to be able to reposition, yet Wave Rider falls out of the sky at the slightest touch.
It’s a shame. When I first saw this suit maybe 15 years ago I loved the design. As a kid I noticed the armament of Z2 is not close quarters effective. Aesthetically the things perfect, practicality wise though not so much. Even the Zeta has grenade launcher or anchor wire for close range.
As far as I know, that's pretty much it for all the shrapnel bazookas with a fast firing rate (this video and the shrapnel bazooka video). All of the others have a slower firing rate or are secondary weapons that don't fire as quick.
Honestly thye should just give it a rapid fire mode beam gun just like what they did with the Methus kai, MS mode has two stuns but no followup other than melee
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4:16 "it appears that the Z II is in fact better suited fro space combat"
but finding a space match is like looking for a needle in a haystack :(
True. The best thing to do is wait for the days when one of the daily challenges is to play in 2 space matches. Wish space was more appealing in the game.
This thing just needs a huge buff
I used to mess with the ZII before the Nu & Sazabi launched, but I didn't play it much. It was a fun suit at the time, but the age of sniper suits has long since passed, atleast, for the most part. We still have some exceptions but it's not like the first two years.
It does feel like the game focuses a little more on aggressive melee suits now.
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I have ghe Zll but i never really used it since at 600 hundred i have my gelgoog himo, zaku 3, geara zulu and the Rezzel. But the few times ive gon against have either been a good opponent or just cannon fodder.
I just don't know how anyone uses the transforming part of transforming MS besides the tanks. Everyone else is nigh but impossible to knock out of the air, but everything I touch is downed the instant I appear on someone's radar.
planning your flight paths and timing play a big part. That and practice. For me, I really struggle with the assault guntank. Still can't figure it out.
i find that the trick is to either flank or to fire at people that are already engaged with someone else
i've had great success with for example Ga-Zowmn's flight mode for finishing off low health targets running away or to pile on damage onto engaged enemies together with the ms mode missiles
@@borgar1765 Guess I need to play on more maps that have luxuries like that. Otherwise, I tend to get too close to them even when using the slowdown option, and typically get turned around to and shot down or just plain meleed out of the air (usually by an ally)
@@Mobilesuitk9 Here I mostly just act reflexively or out of instinct for the most part. Practice would probably help...
From experience with it and the Hildolfr, I find the GAG's a bit of an extra-aggro Hildolfr, trading the heavy stagger for a smaller frame and even more guns. I have a horrible time pulling it off, but one of the main combos seems to be "ram> stun with cannon>ram>dump oil mines on> withdraw for another attack run". And the flamethrower's for annoying the hell out of everyone by spraying it in to a messy cluster fight or ruining infantry's day
I wonder sometimes if its a bit of a power creep thing. I feel like older transformables like Zeta and ZII here get stunned out of the air real easily, while later ones like Delta Plus, Kai, and even something like Woundwort or G-Zawomn feel like they can take even a bit of punishment before being stunned out of the sky. Its especially weird as Zeta since its builds lean towards tanky frontliner that just happens to be able to reposition, yet Wave Rider falls out of the sky at the slightest touch.
It’s a shame. When I first saw this suit maybe 15 years ago I loved the design. As a kid I noticed the armament of Z2 is not close quarters effective. Aesthetically the things perfect, practicality wise though not so much. Even the Zeta has grenade launcher or anchor wire for close range.
I didnt know that shrap zook has faster rate of fire, is there other suits with shrap zooks like that?
As far as I know, that's pretty much it for all the shrapnel bazookas with a fast firing rate (this video and the shrapnel bazooka video). All of the others have a slower firing rate or are secondary weapons that don't fire as quick.
@@Mobilesuitk9 aw crap with a side of bummer
I mean the Rezel exists at the same cost soo... (it has better everything maybe except for the fact that the beam gun is on the left)
Honestly thye should just give it a rapid fire mode beam gun just like what they did with the Methus kai, MS mode has two stuns but no followup other than melee